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  • So, I noticed that Blut Arterie has not been used for quite some time now. Do you think Kubo abandoned this concept?

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    • Um.. Didn't Ichigo use it (albeit indirectly) two chapters ago?

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    • Kman111 wrote: Um.. Didn't Ichigo use it (albeit indirectly) two chapters ago?

      I'm not so sure that the veins on his arm were indicative of some form of Blut being used. Remember how the same veins started appearing on Ichibei's body when he entered the range of Yhwach's Blut Vene Anhaben? I don't think it was giving him Blut, but rather that it was simply showing the effects of Quincy stuff on someone's body; in the same vein, Ichigo just had those Blut veins appear on his arm to signify that something was wrong and later that Yhwach was inserting his Reiatsu into Ichigo's body to forcibly trigger his Quincy blood.

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    • You may be right, but remember, the veins that appeared on Ichibei's body were an extension of Yhwach's own Blut Vene. Every time those veins have appeared, it's always been some form of Blut being used. I mean, Ichigo did bifurcate the Soul King along with the container he was in.

      Yhwach's explanation to Ichigo about Quincy blood was obfuscating enough, this whole 'triggering Quincy blood' thing obfuscates it even more. What's it supposed to be? Blut Vene Wirkung?

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    • Guys, please remember what this discussion is all about; Blut Arterie.

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    • I don't think Blut Arterie has been abandoned. It's probably one of those techniques, where once it's been established, there's no need to mention it over and again.


      I can think of three instances, where it's most likely been used:


      1) When Haschwalth cleanly broke the blade of Tensa Zangetsu in two.

      2) When the force of Gerard's sword swing damaged the trees behind Nimaiya.

      3) Every other time Mask isn't using The Superstar in battle.

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    • No one seems to understand my idea. Granted blut isn't a passive ability, but it reminds me of how hierro was introduced. When Starkk fought love and rose, you didn't hear him go, oh wow if it wasn't for my hierro i would be toast. It was a passive ability, but its not like it was mentioned every single time anything happened. Quilge stated that Blut vene grants Quincy, which are basically normal humans, inhuman durability, so if someone like Bazz-B takes a lance of ice from histugaya, and hes more or less a mortal semi-man i would assume Blut played a part in that but it just wasn't shown. So if a quincy survives a giant explosion, or blocks a sword with their arm, I would consider that blut vene.

      As for blut arterie i think its been shown several times. Infact whenever a quincy fights a shinigami using bankai (except mask) they use blut arterie, Quilge again said that it is the only way to significantly damage the shinigami if they use bankai. So if the Quincy are actually hurting shinigami in bankai and doing damage, can we assume blut arterie has played its part?

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    • Skitzo1 wrote: No one seems to understand my idea. Granted blut isn't a passive ability, but it reminds me of how hierro was introduced. When Starkk fought love and rose, you didn't hear him go, oh wow if it wasn't for my hierro i would be toast. It was a passive ability, but its not like it was mentioned every single time anything happened. Quilge stated that Blut vene grants Quincy, which are basically normal humans, inhuman durability, so if someone like Bazz-B takes a lance of ice from histugaya, and hes more or less a mortal semi-man i would assume Blut played a part in that but it just wasn't shown. So if a quincy survives a giant explosion, or blocks a sword with their arm, I would consider that blut vene.

      As for blut arterie i think its been shown several times. Infact whenever a quincy fights a shinigami using bankai (except mask) they use blut arterie, Quilge again said that it is the only way to significantly damage the shinigami if they use bankai. So if the Quincy are actually hurting shinigami in bankai and doing damage, can we assume blut arterie has played its part?

      My problem with the Hierro comparison is that while Hierro was always on and gave no visual indication of being present aside from maybe sparks when a sword struck skin, Blut Vene has to be activated and has a very clear visual representation, namely the black veins along the user's defended area. Kubo clearly remembers that part of the ability, since he included and made a big deal out of it with Blut Vene Anhaben.

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    • Xilinoc wrote:

      My problem with the Hierro comparison is that while Hierro was always on and gave no visual indication of being present aside from maybe sparks when a sword struck skin, Blut Vene has to be activated and has a very clear visual representation, namely the black veins along the user's defended area. Kubo clearly remembers that part of the ability, since he included and made a big deal out of it with Blut Vene Anhaben.

      Agreed it don't fit 100% but then again those lines are small and how many up close shots of Quincies beening hit did we see?

      That or it was just implyed that they were using Blut arterie.

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    • Maybe those markings are like Busoshoku Haki from One Piece; they only appear when the Blut is highly focused. I'm saying this because I assume that one can improve their control over Blut through training. Well, of course, instead of shielding the user, it enhances their offensive power.

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