Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27565137-20160130014722/@comment-44061-20160211163920

There is perspective and then there is fact. You cannot base an entire argument on baseless speculation and opinion and present it as fact. There are certain circumstances in the series that you either overlook, misinterpret or things that you bring up have no relevancy to your argument. There are certain facts in the series you cant just choose to not take notice of just so your argument has credibility.

As far the Hogyoku is concerned the only one that gave that theory in credit was Aizen. Whether that was the case or not is irrelevant being thats what he said but what he said says isnt always entirely without deception, especially if it doesnt make sense in line with what we already know. His whole character is about subterfuge so if we go from the point that what he said was him just manipulating people for his own aims that whole conversation is off the table. Do we know for sure no, but also dont know whats entirely true when it comes to him.

As for Fullbring, there is virtually nothing that backs any point you make on it. Simply you contradict yourself. According to you Orihime is a Fullbringer based on virtually no corroboration in an arc where everyone that was one was confirmed as such in one way or another.

Just like DarkMuse616 said. If we were to go by normal standards and what is shown, then Chad couldn't be considered a Fullbringer. Because a) All the other Fullbringers needed a sort of conduit for their powers, a object that they were deeply bounded to, while Chad needed none b) Chad also never show any of the fullbringers normal abilities like bringer light. It also doesn't make sense that he's again the exception to the rule c) and don't forget that the fullbringers played a lot with lies and deceit, so to simply take their word on anything is one huge leap of faith.

You speak of normal standards making it that chad isnt a fullbringer but what normal standards are you talking about. a) A fullbringers powers are based on their affinity with an object. That powers is awakened by a strong emotion for that object (ch 432). Chads emotion was pride and the object was his arms (ch 436). b) According to you apparently Chad isnt one even after being confirmed as such simply because he hasn't shown using a High-speed movement. (Also Bringer Light is the effect the movement gives off and not the movement itself). Guess we should overlook that Orihime cant do that either. Its largely a inaccurate argument because by that logic Zaraki isnt a shingiami cause he cant use shunpo or kido. c) dont take the Fullbringers word for it cause their liars. Well the problem there is they gain nothing nor lose anything by including chad or excluding Orihime. The only they lied about was their intentions toward ichigo.

And Inoue's powers are if anything closer to a fullbringer than anything else. Well there is the crux of your argument but it doesnt hold weight. Just because the information isnt currently available doesnt mean you can package the content anyway you see fit. There is plenty in the story we didnt know about until it is reveled. That doesnt mean we get to pick and choose whats what simply for some need at organization. We dont know what the deal is with Orihime. Its not breaking the story to not know.

Also case and point i think everyone here would agree you totally dismiss anything anyone says because your point has to be right. Your entire argument hinges partly on the Hogyoku's involvement. You dont wanna trust the fullbringers but you would place face in everything Aizen says. Nobody as you say owns the truth but there are facts in this series we go by, you cant operate outside those facts and then get surprised when someone calls you out on basically rewriting the story. Yes its not a possible opinion as its not backed by anything. If you cant do as much as admit maybe you take it too far and dont understand whats going on you probably shouldnt get on here and make blogs that misinform people with baseless what if scenario's using flawed content to back your argument. Also if you continue to do so you wont be writing anything on the site at all as your violating the speculation policy.