Forum:Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto

I would like to a few questions about Yamamoto?

1) Yamamoto founded the Shinigami Academy. So before Yamamoto how did someone become a shinigami?

2) What does one have to do to become Captain-Commander?

3) How old is he a know is over 2000 years old, but he would be even older than 2000 year because he was a teacher and he would had to learn about shinigami combat himself, so that could take time?

4) Who would be a good replacement for Yamamoto if he died or when to the royal gurads?

5) How powerful would is bankai be. His shikai is so powerful that none of the current bankais that have been seen would win. Has anyone seen his bankai in the Soul Society. Flaminghorse December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Just my guesses: Speculating is fun sometimes. Twocents  (Talk)  06:07, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Maybe Shinigami weren't around then, or maybe it was just kind of a random, disorganized effort.
 * 2) I'd guess they'd have to be really powerful (be able to do the Shinigami skills really well) and be pretty authoritative.
 * 3) I dunno. Maybe somewhere between 2000 and 3000 years old? Because even in his the pictures of him from the past, he doesn't look younger then than he does now.
 * 4) Shunsui or Unohana, I think.
 * 5) I'd guess that they have seen his Bankai, even though we as readers, have not. And if it's supposed to be the most powerful fire sword, I'd guess it might have abilities similar to Toshiro's, only more refined with age, practice and skill and fire-based, obviously.

my thoughts are
 * 1) i would think a loosely organized group of people with a master apprentice relationship, as it is shown that people can obtain a zanpukto without be a shinigami (the academy could just have been a refinement at first for those without skills)
 * 2) skill, skill and more skill, with power to match atleast another captain
 * 3) no idea on his age, but as Twocents  said between 2000 and 3000
 * 4) i would say Unohana is a good guess as she is powerful and most people even captains don't talk back to her
 * 5) it has not been shown to readers but again as Twocents  has said it would have been shown to other captains in order to gain his position, and it has been hinted at in the anime to be a fire dragon/being but could just as-well be another embodiment of fire (e.g. phenix, dragons, living flame etc.)

Fawcettp 10:32, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

1) As we have seen, it´s not like academy is completely neccesarry for becoming a shinigami. Every soul with enough reiroku can become a shinigami.

2) Well imo he have to be stronger than average captain, he must be wise and he must be trustworthy.

3) 2547. Lol but seriously I guess he's about 2.500 yo.

4) Ukitake, Shunsui or Unohana. Hard to tell who would be best captain commander.

5) Well I don't think that anyone saw Yamamoto's bankai. Maybe Ukitake and Shunsui but I seriously doubt that anyone else ever saw his bankai.

Ergroilnin 11:12, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

1) I can't even use any evidence for a guess, but my assumption would be something to do with nobility, as in they were sworn to protect Rukongai or their realm based on their titles.

2)My assumption with this is impecable skill and admiration of your peers. Beyond that no real guesses.

3)Same as everyone else...2,000-3,000 give or take a few hundred

4)While I think Unohana would be the "obvious" choice to replace Yamamoto, but to be honest, if he had to choose, I don't think there would even be a doubt he would pick Byakuya. He's the only one that would enforce/follow the rules to the letter that Yamamoto himself has said 1,000 times that he must do as Captain Commander. Unohana, Shunsui and Ukitake are too "kind-hearted" for the position according to Yamamoto I believe.

No one ever said that they can't fight against Yamamoto's shikai. Ukitake and Shunsui were able to stand up to him, who knows what they could do alone, he has never truly fought yet to know the extent of his powers. But I, like most people believe that his bankai is ungodly strong and he doesnt use it for the consequences, similar to why the top 4 Espada weren't allowed to release in LN...probably why he doesnt want to use his Bankai...might be too dangerous for Sereitei or the real Karakura town...

Just my opinion...Orionradar 23:17, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

i'v been thinking about it and if his bankai is that powerful then i wouldn't think he would be able to use it even if he had to.(not trying to say that it's a bad idea or that i don't like it. just saying what i thought).Soul reaper magnum 04:07, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly. I can't imagine that it's so dangerous that the release alone would destroy a large radius. That'd kind of make it a useless ability. Plus, you'd think the head captain would have some sort of control over his own powers. Twocents   (Talk)  04:09, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

1).I agree with the others. It was a loose nit organization of Souls working together against the Hollows.

2).Someone strong.

3).I actually have to think he is over 4,000 years old as two thousand yrs ago he was still an old fart.

4).The young Toshiro Hitsugaya. Young but busting with potential.

5).I actually think his Bankai is very dangerous when released. It is supposed to be. The fire won't burn him so he remains unaffected and only other strong captains can survive it. It is for that reason he paralyzed Nanao before releasing his Zanpakuto and y he only releases it when others around r strong enough to handle being around it, and this is just in its Shikai. To further prove my point, Jushiro called it "Horrible" and hinted that he might be afraid or wary of it. Minato  04:22, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * speaking of Ryujin Jakka, I like the omake at the end of episode 249. lol@Yama-ji --WinterFox 05:41, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

I think that a Captain-Commander would be appointed by one of the "higher-ups", as I think there are people (higher than the now-defunct Central 46). Perhaps people aides to the Spirit King or something. Because, there hasn't been any confirmation as to who promotes Captains to the Royal Guard, right? My speculation is that there is someone (or plural!) calling the shots, rather it being the Spirit King himself or an adviser. --Animeluvr92 18:48, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * There is. The Royal Family which the the Spirit King is the head of. Rangiku said that the Royal Family as a whole appointed the forty judges and six sage which were known as Central 46. The family themselves chose never to get involved with Seireitei affairs. They r probably waiting for Aizen to be beaten(if the Gotei 13 can beat him) before they appoint replacements for Central 46. Minato  18:58, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, thanks for the info! It cleared a lot up for me. Personally, I can't wait until more information about the Royal Guard and Royal Family are revealed. --Animeluvr92 20:24, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, and do you have a reference/source for that? I think that it [appointment information and the reference] should be added to the Central 46/Judiciary sub-section on the Soul Society article (: -- Animeluvr 20:30, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Firstly, I apologize for not answering sooner. I didn't see ur second comment. Second, its Anime episode 125, so that would be Manga chapters 221 thro 223. I don't kno if u already figured that out, but I decided better late then never. Minato (Talk)  15:17, December 30, 2009 (UTC)