Talk:Ulquiorra Cifer/Archive 4

Gran Rey Cero?
I was reading over the manga again(bored) and I noticed, for the second time, that on page 15 of chapter 344, during Ichigo and Ulquiorra's fight, after Ichigo Hollowified but before Ulquiorra released, and directly after Ulquiorra left the room the tower they were fighting in via a hole to the "outside", Ulquiorra appears to fire a Gran Rey Cero. The energy collection before firing was larger than a regular cero, and had four branches of energy branching off in a similar fashion to Grimmjow's Gran Rey Cero, abiet they were thinner. And the cero's blast radius was much larger than his regular cero. So, why isn't Gran Rey Cero listed as one of his abilities? Even if he didn't actually announce that he was using it, I think that it's pretty obvious that that's what it is. B-rad128 (talk) 20:36, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

It was just a regular cero. This discussion has been brought up time and time again and there is no evidence that it is a gran rey cero other than the look of how it charges. It was not the same size, he did not mix it with his blood and it does not have any of the other traits of a gran rey cero.--

I suppose. Not arguing the point, but just because we saw one Gran Rey Cero used by one individual doesn't mean we can without a doubt distuinguish that another's isn't. Grimmjow did mix it with his blood, and that would seem quite Grimmjow-like. The ritual for release could simply be different. Notice Ulquiorra fired it with his left hand, not with his right as he has done every single time he has used his cero before this point. As for the difference in size, it's also evident that Grimmjow's and Ulquiorra regular cero's are different sizes themselves; when Grimmjow charges his cero, it takes up much of the space of his palm, and has a wide blast radius, but Ulquiorra's charging cero is smaller, merely the size of the tip of his finger, and has a smaller blast radius. And the branches of the charging certainly did resemble Gran Rey Cero. So, you see my confusion; it looks like a Gran Rey Cero, apparently has the properties of a Gran Rey Cero, but because Ulquiorra doesn't do the typical stupid Bleach thing of announcing the name of the attack you're using before actually using it, it's not a Gran Rey Cero? I mean, if more evidence points to it being so than not, then why the hell don't we just put Gran Rey Cero in his profile page? Seems stupid not to. B-rad128 (talk) 01:05, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Grimmjow stated that a Gran Rey Cero is created when an Espada mixes their cero with their blood. Kubo has drawn the gran rey cero twice. Once with Grimmjow and once in the hell chapter promotion with Szayel. Szayel's looked like Grimmjows. There is absolutely no evidence that Ulquiorra fired a Gran Rey Cero. Just because the charge looked like it does not make it so.--

Simply because we dont go by what maybe, could be, but arent sure of what it can possibly be. In the Bleach series Gran Rey Cero has been used largely once. It is obvious that all Espada know how to use it. Though if it isn't actually used then it is not placed in the article. Yes calling it out is the only way unless it was a average cero. Only unique cero are given name. Cero can be fired from anything and when you have two hands either will do its simple preference. These things are very consistent throughout the series. Similar to Barragan, Harribel and Starrk, Nnoitra and the like he never was remotely stated or definitively shown using it and in the case of its something you have to state otherwise this issue holds, how can you tell if from a regular cero. The reasons you have given are opinion as your making a distinction about a cero after seeing a specific one used once. Also Espada vary in size and color and usage from arrancar to arrancar. Also after reviewing the chapter the only thing that can be stated is that the attack is consistent with how he fires cero, except from a different hand and is featured the same as showing a cero of various magnitudes which is possible for arracnar which has also been shown. As far as how it charges its the same when he initially is first shown using a cero.--Salubri (Talk)  01:49, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Cutting off Hollow Ichigo's horn
Is it certain that he did it to stop Ichigo from firing a Cero at Uryu? Or did he do it just to attack him? I don't see any reason why Ulquiorra would want to save Uryu.Aty123321 (talk) 12:12, August 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * The artcile does not say that he did it to save Uryū. It is not known what his motives were, only that he did it. The article is worded in such a way as to reflect that. 12:41, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Adding some VL content.
In the databook "Unmasked" there is a short one chapter manga expanding on Ulquiorra's past. And he's revealed as a Vasto Lorde. What do you think, should we add some information regarding this, perhaps a picture of his VL form, and maybe a little section detailing the plot of this short story? Xfing (talk) 00:08, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * It was never said he was a Vasto Lorde. It is not mentioned in that story once. We will add his history in as we get to it. There is a lot of information from unmasked that still needs to go in and we are getting it.--


 * According to this translation, he wasn't a Vasto Lorde. --The Goblin (talk) 21:20, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Zanjutsu
Does the recent fling with Grimmjow and Zanjutsu mean that Zanjutsu links from Ulquiorra and other Arrancar are going to be removed? Aeron Solo wuz here (If you wanna talk)  00:23, September 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it should be as the Zanjutsu page says "Zanjutsu is the fighting style for the Zanpakuto" and no Arrancar are listed on that page. It is the same with Hakuda.--