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Please stop adding unreferenced information or any untrue information into our articles, we have very strict policies here and I suggest you read them!! SunXia  (Chat)  23:32, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for apologizing!! Chad was born a Fullbringer, they are not created, he often referred to his powers as being much more similar to Hollows, where as Orihime's have been compared to Shinigami powers, they are very different!! Remember, Aizen said a lot of stuff, some of it was tripe!! In regards to Ichigo, his article is correct, it states that the sword condenses his Reiatsu and unleashes it in a densely powerful strike!! It doesn't need fixed!! We are very strict about our policies here, it is why the site is such a high and tidy standard!! SunXia   (Chat)  00:06, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Please read the Bleach Wiki:Speculation Policy. All of what you are saying is speculation and goes against established facts. Orihime is not a Fullbringer. Hachi said that her powers were closer to his own and a Shinigami's Zanpakuto. Kugo said Fullbringers are not made, they are born. You have no evidence to counteract this. In order for you to have anything placed on an article, you need to find proof in the manga and be able to point out a reference. If you cannot, then it is not true as far as we are concerned.--


 * ^Per what Godisme said!! Orihime's hairclips were compared to a Zanpakutō and never ever ever ever ever mentioned to be Fullbring, even when Kugo seen her powers!! Sado has always been a Fullbringer, it took a very special situation to bring out his powers but that's what he is!1 Never is it said they are created, this is speculation and does not belong in out articles so no, it does not belong here!! SunXia   (Chat)  13:40, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

It is speculation to assume that Kugo did not know what he was talking about. It is speculation to assume that something stated by a canon character is wrong. We do not put things on articles that we think, we only put things on articles we can prove. Nowhere was it stated that Orihime was a Fullbringer, thus it does not go on her article. Nowhere was it stated that a Fullbringer can be made instead of born that way, this we do not put it on the article. That is that. Further continuation of this argument will be looked at as an attempt to insert false information on this site and you will be blocked for it.--

Let me get this straight. What you assume from your own opinion which you clarify that you cant even prove, to say that we dont use facts and are wrong. Basically telling us that basing our facts on what is stated in the series is wrong. Exactly how does that argument work? You have provided nothing but a basis of inaccurate lack of understanding of the dialogue. You state that Hachi is wrong, that Kugo is wrong and your entire concept is based around what you personally think. Yet we are the ones wrong. That makes in sense.


 * Xcution a group of Fullbringers come to find Ichigo with the supposed idea of returning his powers but really to steal them. They involve and ally themselves to Chad a fellow Fullbringer to get closer to Ichigo and gain his trust. They dont involve Orihime, the girl with the power to reject injury or even death, until they need her to heal ichigo. She is never part of their plan, they dont ally themselves to her and dont even accept her as say chad or even ichigo. Why? She doesn't have a fullbring, not once do they insist she does, not once do they hint at it, not once does any fullbringer in contact with her even think to themselves of their being a similarity in power. How can we come to to this conclusion? The past 54 chapters have not once reference or suggestion of it anywhere.
 * You state Hachi doesnt know what he is talking about. Based on what? He states to her that her hairpins are the manifestation of her power just as a zanpakuto is the manifestation of a shinigami's power. How exactly is that wrong? Seems not only correct but logical considering the hair pin is how her power is manifested. Lastly he states her powers are similar to his own. Last we checked Hachi uses kido. Last we check Kido is a shinigami power. Last we checked being a visored doesn't mean you stop having shinigami powers. Hachi deals mostly in barriers (as a master of the art he creates his own, unbreakable by shinigami. Why? could it be that if they dont know anything about the spell they couldnt break it. Its very likely) Orihime's powers are mostly barriers. While she is not a shinigami her powers are similar to the use of kido. Kido is Kido nothing exists to state that Hachi's kido is any different from kido in general, just because some spells are of his own design.
 * You state Kugo is a liar. No incorrect while he was under the influence of book of end, anything he recalled that was not accurate or omitted was of that powers influence, therefore not his consciously to make. Speaking about something in general would not have featured into it, there is nothing to gain from lying about the origin of fullbringers or how a fullbringers ability works.

Another concept altogether is just as we didnt know what Chad was until this arc, we dont know entirely what Orihime is either. We all know that fact, what we dont do is come out of nowhere proclaiming her to be something we cant prove as well as something we know she is definitely not. Thus why she is no way listed in the sites articles as such. Besides not having any connection to it and not fitting the criteria as explained multiple times in the series trying to understand her powers. The arc explaining the concept of fullbring has come and gone with her role being secondary at largely unessential. Thus she is no more a fullbringer then tatsuki or karin or yuzu. Just because its the easy option and what your presented with doesn't make it a correct option. There is clear definition for her given by various people with points that dont contradict. Not one says anything close to leading to her being a fullbring. There is no proof nor is it even accurate to state that her powers are somewhat hollow in nature. Chad yes, thats brought up multiple times. You base your points of us having a lack of evidence what evidence do you have to prove anything in the series incorrect. If we go by your idea that we cannot know anything then we wouldnt have a site, because according to you none of the information is accurate. If you dont like whats presented then dont come here, if you want to make up situations based on your own opinion and skewed interpretation of dialogue. Thats your choice. Just do it somewhere else as all you have done is disrespected the site, the series, Tite Kubo and the users who come here to make the site a good one. In any series all you have to go on is what your given, if you dont understand that then why bother coming here and starting trouble solely based on your opinion. In the end even if its a characters opinion it matters far more then your own. We dont choose what we want to believe because its convenient, just as we dont write the story. Kubo introduced a group of fullbringers and stated Chad as a Fullbringer. That was the end of it. --Salubri (Talk)  19:14, January 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * You have been told by both the Committee and an Admin to leave this issue alone!! Leaking Reiatsu is not a technique, all he did was swing his sword!! And the Orihime issue, bring it up once more and I will place you down to be banned!! For the last time speculation does not belong here, and your insistence in arguing against our policies is counter-productive and useless, an atmosphere that is not promoted here!! This is the last of the matter, the issue is done, leave it alone, you have been warned!! SunXia   (Chat)  18:58, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

From your own words: "I am suggesting that what he said was simply the best description he could give based on the knowledge that he had." This is speculation. It was not stated, you thought of it, therefore it is speculation. "I am suggesting that what he said was simply the best description he could give based on the knowledge that he had." This is speculation. It was not stated, you thought of it, therefore it is speculation. "As for what could be gained from lying about their origins, that is simple. Sympathy although the process defined for their origins is probably the truth for some if not most fullbringers. However the most important thing is how do they really know their parents were attacked by hollows before they were born? They werent born yet...how could they know?" This is speculation as well. So in essence, you are in constant violation of our speculation policy. This is not a site you come to in order to express your ideas on the manga, this is a site you come to to get the canon facts and contribute to an encyclopedia or canon information. If you want to continue voicing your speculations, you may do so elsewhere, try bleachforums.com. If you continue to voice your speculations here, you will be banned.--


 * What I am holding against you is your total disregard of our rules here!! You ignore the rules for signing your posts with four tildes, a simple action that even appears at the top of the edit page below the special tabs!! You disregard our speculation rules and use the fact that in Soul Society Arc Ichigo was a Visored and we didn't know!! If the series was still at that point of the Manga he would be just listed as a Human and Shinigami, so your point is moot, we never Speculate!! You also ignore our policies on translations and insertions of techniques which requires a discussion on either the Translation Corner talk page or on the talk page of the article where we will discuss it and decide on it!! You repeatedly fail to do any of these, which shows a total disregard with how things are done here and still insist on you being the only right person and everyone else is wrong!! SunXia   (Chat)  21:16, January 23, 2012 (UTC)