Talk:Zanjutsu

kendo
Would you add kendo as a technique, seeing as it's a clear and separate skill Kenpachi learned from Yamamoto? Benihime101 (talk) 07:55, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Proposal to remove Arrancar
We don't have Arrancar in either the Hoho and Hakuda page and so I don't see why we have them in the "Zanjutsu" page. I mean, I understand that Arrancar have their own Hoho equivalent - Sonido and we determine that Hakuda wasn't just "hand-to-hand combat" but a specific style of hand-to-hand combat used by Shinigami. But surely the same reasoning applies to Zanjutsu! For one, most of the Shinigami on this page have had formal training in Zanjutsu though either the Shinigami Academy and/or privately. Many of them know specific philosophies like Kendo. How can we compared people with that level of training to Arrancar, who seem to be more "instinctive" fighters as opposed to trained fighters. More importantly, "Zanjutsu", like Hoho and Hakuda, was specifically identified as a Shinigami skill. NOT a general term applicable to anyone who uses Zanpakuto. So I believe the Arrancar should be removed to their own page. Tinni  (Talk)  05:33, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Quoting from the page itself, "While others may maintain any level of skill in swordsmanship Zanjutsu is exclusive to Shinigami." So yeah, there is no reason Arrancar should be on here--God (Pray)  05:38, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Jinzen
Related to my proposal to remove Arrancar from this page, I think the Jinzen and really much of the "Zanpakutō Control" section should be part of this page and not the Zanpakutō page. Isshin makes it clear the Jinzen was a technique that was researched and developed as part of Shinigami training regime, which means that it is part of the "swordsmanship philosophy" taught to Shinigami. I.e. it is part of the Zanjutsu training and a Zanjutsu technique. A non-combat technique certainly but it is still something that belong here, in my opinion. Tinni  (Talk)  05:37, January 2, 2011 (UTC)