Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4957813-20131130185522/@comment-11269545-20140919232117

Stefan (Shikai - "Rust & Shatter") wrote: Jam17692 wrote: Stefan (Shikai - "Rust & Shatter") wrote: Jam17692 wrote: Stefan (Shikai - "Rust & Shatter") wrote: Jam17692 wrote: it couldn't have been Ryuken since he's a Quincy, so I guess Kisuke. So, Quincy can make things like the Quincy Cross, Seele Schneider, Ginto tubes, and Hollow bait, but they can't make charms that protect against Hollows? How do you figure that? Since Hollows are like poison to Quincy, and Quincy traditionally rely on their Spirit Bow and arrows to exterminate Hollows, then having close-range protection would be more valuable to a Quincy than to a Shinigami, who typically use their Zanpakutou to purify Hollows, and are trained for melee-style fighting. it's kido-based How do figure it must be Kido-based? Isshin doesn't recite an incantation, or do any special hand signs, before using it, he simply throws it at the Hollow to activate it. you know what forget it, whoever wrote Isshin's page on this site seems to be under the impression that it's kido-based but i can't find anything on it in the manga and anime I'm sorry to say that I don't know what you're referring to. All I can find about the charm on Isshin's page is this quote at the end of Agent of the Shinigami arc: '"When Ichigo dismisses it, Isshin, giving him a protective charm, tells him Masaki gave it to him, and it will bring him good fortune. Isshin tells him he is lending it to him for his trip, and he has to give it back when he returns. When Ichigo does not answer, Isshin tells him he will have to shave his beard if he loses it."'

I also found some information in the beginning of the Arrancar arc, quote: "When Ichigo returns the protective charm to Isshin, he, saying he does not want it, sews it into Ichigo's school uniform. When Ichigo asks if he lied about Masaki having given him the charm, Isshin changes the subject. When Grand Fisher is about to attack Kon (who is in Ichigo's body), the charm Isshin gave Ichigo is activated, creating a barrier between them. Wearing a Shinigami uniform, Isshin, telling him to take it with him wherever he goes, turns his attention to Grand Fisher, telling him Ichigo is not home and he should play with him instead."

There's no hint of it being Kido-based in these two instances, so if you read it somewhere else then please share that information. It's easier to agree, or disagree, with someone if both refer to the same source material. abit late but here:

"Protective Charm: A Kidō-based charm given to him by his father. If the owner is attacked by hostile forces, it acts as a defense by forming a barrier, as displayed when Kon (while in Ichigo's body) was attacked by the Arrancar Grand Fisher. Ichigo was unaware of the charm's power, and was told it once belonged to his mother. The latter is proven to be a lie, as Isshin later reveals he created the charm recently." http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Ichigo_Kurosaki#Equipment

"Isshin can create charmed objects to act as a defense against hostile forces, such as the Arrancar Grand Fisher." http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Isshin_Kurosaki#Powers_.26_Abilities