Forum:What if the Vizard fail?

What do you guys think would happen if the Vizard fail to stop the Espada and Aizen? I thought abput this for a while and something came to me; Urahara, Shihoin, and Tessai. They haven't played a big part yet other than helping the others prepare to fight. I wonder if they would fight the top 3 if Shinji and the others get beaten? Just hopin to hear others' ideas on this.--Moe1216 17:14, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Nah, I don't think so. I mean, how much more powerful can Urahara, Yoruichi, and Tessai be from the Vizard? I'm sure that the Vizard have a huge leap in power from those above three! Animeluvr92 22:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)animeluvr92

If they loose Everyone DIES!!!!!!!!!! dumdumDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM User:DieJARJARDIE 21:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

If they fail what exactly would be the point of bringing them out at all. Why would kubo create a group of powerful beings only to showcase seemingly less powerful characters. To be honest you have to remember the context of the characters. Urahara doesn't involve himself much in fights and only comes in to save others at the last minute. Yoruichi is even less likely then Urahara to involve herself and Tessei is the least likely to engage in combat at this level. There no longer captains and therefore not obligated to do anytihng really the only time they have even jumped into a situation normally is to help ichigo or when a situation is happening in the town. The three dont ever really play any major roll in the way your expecting them to. I just seriously doubt the scenario of them failing there has to be a counter to what has taken place and short of some unforeseen good guys they are it.Salubri 02:17, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Eh, it was jus an idea. Since each of them was a captain and had achieved Bankai I was wondering how they would get some action in. Oh well. Can't wait for Vizard Shikai and Bankai though.--Moe1216 05:08, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

to be honest they wont lose i think cuz ichigo will probably end up going to their rescue and then use that new hollow form or something pertaning to his hollow powers but im worried that the might not be any more bleach after this because since the beggining no matter in what arc aizen and the battle their in now has always poped up somewhere so what after that? I think thats a really good questeion to ask

Wow, either I'm getting senile or am I the only one who didn't understand anything written by the guy under Moe1216? Wth?? And for the guy who asked about Issin and Uryu's dad.. isn't there a topic already discussing those 2? In my opinion, Vizards will own Stark and everyone else, leaving the present captains owing them big time. And then... plot twist Deimonos 16:51, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

See the reason I asked was because the Winter War is coming to a close and the players for the antagonists are dwindling. What I was concerned with was that they were captains, but we never get to see their full potential. I know its hard to get EVERY single character in a manga like this and give them unique powers in such a small period of time that is lowly dwindling away, but I mean to alude to Urahara, Tessai, and Yoruichi being these uber-powerful captains yet not showing their fullest potential seems like a waste.--Moe1216 04:12, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Yea i agree i mean why involve those three if they arent going to do anything. But more than likely they'll show up n do something. The best thing to do is wait i guess--Jwill35 05:32, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Well assuming this is the end. I would guess that Aizen being defeated doesnt mean the end of the series just that storyline. I really dont think it will be this soon but, there can be another major bad guy and then there is still opportunity left to see all those who havent shown all their skills as of yet. Urahara, Tessai and Yoruichi aren't the only ones we havent seen anything from those we do see we barely see anything from them (i.e. Ukitake and Kyoraku, even in their fight against starrk it seemed they were holding back and besides confirming that Kyoruka has a wind zanpakuto and finally seeing the general ability of Ukitake's shikai we still are missing out) No i would say even if Aizen gets killed off or retreats there will still be alot more to see.Salubri 05:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, I see a different opinion now.. oh well Anyways, Aizen hasn't fought anyone yet. Only time he drew his sword was the quick slash against Histugaya. I doubt he'll just die there or fight someone within that crowd. His thing will be done in a 1 x 1 combat in 10 episodes, like goku x freeza fight. Deimonos 12:58, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Another thing, we have yet to see any of the Vasto Lorde. If Aizen is defeated, would they become thee next major threat? The Hogoyku is still in Hueco Mundo and anyone with Reiastu greater than a captain can activate it. Vasto Lorde have Reiatsu much higher than captains and they have control over themselves. They could come in and use the Hogoyku on themselves to become the new Espada and create a small army to destroy the Soul Society. That's a terrifying thought right there.--Moe1216 15:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

There is no different opinion i stand by what i said before all im saying now is that even if he is defeated or retreats there is more story to tell with or without him there. Pay attention if your gonna follow me around and comment on everything i say Deimonos, i was directly talking about other characters we havent seen alot of in relation to the notion of the end of the series.Salubri 15:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)