Forum:Third Official Bleach Character Book

On Friday 3rd June, the third official character book for Bleach will be released. So while we still have the time, I though it would be prudent to get something organized in advance regarding how we want to handle it. I think we definitely need a central page to co-ordinate it from, like with last year's Masked Project. Maybe if anyone has any comments, positive or negative (but constructive criticism) about how the Masked Project was handled and anything we could learn from that to help us this time around. We had some trouble last year which lead us to restrict work on the Masked Project to Committee members and Admins. I would like to think that if we are well enough organized this time, we can avoid it coming to that again.

Anyway, some good news is that while there may still be renaming of character pages, the vast majority of them were settled in MASKED and thanks to Godisme we now have a bot that can handle such things much better if the need arises. Bad news is our translation corner is behind and not showing signs of improving. We cannot allow them to be bombarded with random requests to translate entire pages for random users. It should be kept to important things. Thoughts, ideas? 19:49, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Obviously I will be picking the book up the day it comes out. I haven't been running around to every site detailing any of its contents that I should expect. Though I am concerned in general about renaming anything so what would give you that Idea that there would be renaming going on, bot or no. --Salubri (Talk)  21:40, May 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * There were a lot of Arrancar characters whose names never had an official romanization before the Masked databook and the articles were corrected from the unofficial fan-scan versions to the official ones laid out by Kubo. As I said it should not be anything major this time around due to the vast majority of them being dealt with in Masked, but it is a possibility nonetheless. I am more concerned with people jumping on the articles adding stuff that they have literally just read (and not necessarily from a reliable source or having fully understood it) and not trying to verify it or organize it, editing haphazardly with no thought to the structure of the articles, clogging up the translation corner demanding full sections of the book be translated for them, etc. There will likely be a decent size of people who will see the databook and think, oh, I wanna be the first to add this to the wiki and theyll once again create a ton of work for everyone here to fix. 21:53, May 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I believe the page that needs to be locked ahead of time is Ulquiorra. I don't know how much of the advance promo material you guys have seen but the promo material I have seen shows never before seen manga short stories from Kubo himself that seem to give Ulquiorra's back story. Ulquiorra of course has a large, large fan following. So that's a page that has to be locked before people start messing with it. Tinni   (Talk)  13:41, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

I've protected Harribel (see post below by TVthePunisher), Ulquiorra & Orihime's pages for now. In Ulquiorra & Orihime's case it is because there is a new chapter about him in the book and I would image that some group or other would scan and translate it soon enough, so I would say wait until that happens before anything from the chapter is added. 11:34, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, definitely protect those pages. I will keep searching for scans and see what I can find.--

Bleach Databook 3...UNMASKED. Harribel's alive? Other info?
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Okay, okay...I just heard of this and I apologize for just kind of jumping in here without a link or anything...but the thing was just released, apparently translations confirm that Orihime healed Harribel and she's now back in Huenco Mundo...in addition, her hollow hole is at her Uterus. There is also backstory for Ulquiorra, showing his original Vega-styled hollow mask. So...like...discuss? I see nothing on here about this ;>_> if I remember correctly, Harribel's status was a huge subject of debate in editwarring here...

Anyways, trying to get the link off the guy now...he showed me an image of Ulquiorra's original Hollow mask taken from a scan and he posted it to a forum I frequent...so...I guess just discuss guys, what do you think of this info? Why did Kubo not include that Harribel might be alive in the Manga? How about Starrk?

Here's the most I have right now, it's all in this forum at BA. Guy's got the book, posting pics and translating as he goes.

http://bleachasylum.com/threads/18273-BLEACH-Official-Fan-Book-3-UNMASKED?p=2781411&viewfull=1#post2781411

TVthePunisher (talk) 00:00, June 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't trust BA, they have been wrong more times than right. I believe Salubri is purchasing the book and we are going to be working off of that. Details were in another forum post that Yyp made.--

Harribels Hole is....?? Well. When all those trolls, perverts said that, I ignored them. I'm not sure I believe the information u have posted Punisher. No offense, but I uhm. Anyway, if Harribel is alive, I can almost believe that, but I promise you that Starrk is dead. When is this book coming out God? Minato (Talk)  01:49, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

It is either out today or tomorrow. Not sure. I haven't had a chance to look for any of the scans yet.--


 * That's fine Minato, no worries. I'm just kind of stumbling on the info...wasn't really saying "OMG this!!!!" or something like that o_O...I mean I'd like for the Databook to confirm new information, but I doubt there's anything more on Espada like Grimmjow.  I guess that one Kubo interview kind of writing off his death is all we can go on now..TVthePunisher (talk) 05:37, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Translations explicitly confirm Stark is dead. Info on Stark on FLOL. I have no confirmation on Harribel. Tinni  (Talk)  21:54, June 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * A recent scan shows Harribel as well as her three Fraccion walking in the desert away from Yammy's Dog (Kukkuparo)...because it hasn't fully been translated, unsure if it 100% confirms those four as alive but it appears Kubo co-authored this little segment. In addition, somewhere else in that thread contains scans of the Ulquiorra chapter...apparently it was a dream he was having of his past and now there's this huge argument all throughout the thread on the Hogyoku and whether or not Aizen was gambling with fate on the whole thing...I don't know, anyone who wants to research that discussion can.  It's gone on for like 100+ posts now it seems...anyways, here's the page with the scans and some info (harribel related). Just throwing this out there for you guys.


 * http://bleachasylum.com/threads/18273-BLEACH-Official-Fan-Book-3-UNMASKED/page64 TVthePunisher (talk) 14:53, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think that scan proves anything. For all we know, that little story could be from the past - i.e. before the Espada vs Shinigami battles. I think we need confirmation from someone who can read Japanese AND has access to the entire book. Tinni   (Talk)  20:02, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Page Moves
Thanks to 'Tinni for giving a link to some of the scans. Reading through them, we have a few page moves such as Lilynette Gingerback to Lilynette Gingerbuck, Baraggan Luisenbarn to Baraggan Louisenbairn, Findor Carias to Findor Calius and so forth. We need to list all the changes to be made and once that is done, I can run my bot to first change all text instances of the change and then again to change all links. The first sweep with my bot will take only a few minutes as I can just set it up and let the bot run on auto. The second sweep will take a little longer as I will need to manually approve all the changes to avoid changing image names but it will still be quicker than changing it manually. So whenever there is consensus to change a name, leave a message here and I will change all the instances and report back when it is done.--

Renames:

Lilynette Gingerback to Lilynette Gingerbuck

Baraggan Luisenbarn to Baraggan Louisenbairn

Findor Carias to Findor Calius

Charlotte Cuuhlhourne to Charlotte Chuhluhourne

Avirama Redder to Abirama Redder

Tia Harribel to Tier Harribel

Apacci to Emilou Apacci

Mila Rose to Franceska Mila Rose

Sung-Sun to Cyan Sung-Sun

Rudobōn to Rudbornn Chelute