Forum:4th Bleach Movie

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I couldn't really think of where to put this, so I am putting it here. The 4th Bleach movie has been announced and it is apparently scheduled to be released Winter of 2010. So about this time next year. Details are very sketchy but a large poster was included with this weeks Shonen Jump and per the translation of Sheetz from FLOL the movie concerns Ichigo's "perfect hollowfication.", i.e. his second vizard form. Apparently more detail about the movie will be coming later. I will be using this post to add more details as they become available. Tinni 19:46, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

The following clip contains nothing new. The two seconds of content that's labelled as being from movie 4 is actually from Fade to Black. However for the sake of completness I am throwing the clip up here, seeing as it is an official teaser clip. Tinni  (Talk)  08:49, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

The title of the new movie will apparently be 第４弾　Horo of Horokillrer　ホロウとホロウを斬る者 (Horo of Horokillrer - The one that cuts a Hollow, is a Hollow!?). So does that mean the official spelling of Hollow is Horo? Tinni  (Talk)  09:52, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

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Finally I have some new information on the movie. Below is what was passed along by 69ruma of 2ch. It was translated by Maaru from FLOL. Tinni  (Talk)  14:22, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * 映画地獄編　12/4公開　上映90分予定


 * Hell Arc movie will be shown on December 4, planned to be a 90 minute film.


 * 劇場版で初の苺完全虚化


 * It'll be the first film featuring completely hollowfied Ichigo.


 * 前売りは7/31発売　先着8万名


 * Advance booking for the first 80,000 will be announced on July 31.


 * 特典は表裏書き下ろしのポスター3枚1セット、裏面は私服イラスト


 * The incentives are 3 posters in one set, the reverse in civilian clothes illustrations.


 * Aセット苺、井上、ウルキオラ


 * Set A is Ichigo, Inoue, Ulquiorra


 * Bルキア、白哉、レンジ


 * Set B is Rukia, Byakuya, Renji


 * C素人、ギン、グリムジョー


 * Set C is Hitsugaya, Gin, Grimmjow


 * 師匠のメッセージ


 * Message from sensei (Tinni's note: Kubo is referred to as sensei by his Japanese fans):


 * 今回の劇場版では企画・脚本の段階から参加させてもらい、


 * This time, I'm participating from the planning and scenario stage,


 * 強い思い入れのある作品です.


 * so I'm putting everything that I can for this production.


 * 連載10周年にふさわしい、きっとすごい映画になると思います.


 * It's just apt for the 10th anniversary of my serialization, so I'm sure it'll be an incredible movie.


 * 楽しみにしてください.


 * And I hope you'll enjoy it.

Discussion
That is, eh, a rather unexpected focal point for a Bleach movie. Assuming that it does indeed turn out to be the focus of the plot, then we could well see lots of the Human characters that have been all but ignored in the previous films. Anyway, they're been getting better with each film, so fingers crossed for fourth time lucky. I just hope it doesn't descend into, well, into the silliness that is the end of the first three films. -- Yyp  (Talk)  20:47, December 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Great, hope it has a good plot, and that they introduce a lot of new characters (previous movies introduced too few). I'd love to see more Hollow/Arrancar-centric plot, played at Hueco Mundo.--Lon-ami 21:10, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

I am glad they took a break from the movies this year fade to black was a very good movie pretty hard to beat when considering other shonen jump movies. By fade to black it was clear that Studio Perriot were no longer skitish on diving into cannon material for a movie(hisagi's zanpaktou was revealed in fade to black before it aired on tv.) Also making koga a kuchiki(although by marriage) they made a filler character be really involved and kinda redefining the cannon material. Studio Perriot is very confident now in their stories and animation.What I would really like to see is when the manga is done make the finale of the anime a movie kinda like what they did with the first fullmetal alchemist series. Either way looks really good we should hear more about it in the coming months.--Lemursrule 21:28, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

I happen to think Fade to Black was utter rubbish and another very formulaic offering from the studio. So I hope that the 4th movie is radically different from the other movies. Because I am really sick of the same formula over and over and over again. Anyway, I bet the movie is going to revolved around Ichigo losing his mind and becoming the villain of the movie. I predict the movie will involved his comrades trying to stop him/bring him back to himself. Tinni 21:47, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

@Lemursrule. First? Is there a second Fullmetal Alchemist series? @Everbody else(LOL). I have to agree with Tinni on the third movie and in a way all of the movies. They have gotten alittle worse each time. But thats typical with Sequels. At anyrate I hope this movie is the best of the four. If so we could see a fifth movie, but I don't want anymore. I don't want Bleach pulling a DBZ, where theres like 15 thousand movies. Minato (Talk)  22:08, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

The second series of fma is fma:brotherhood it is a remake of the original series and stays much closer to cannon material than the original series did(which was mostly filler) and is an ongoing series based directly off the manga. Tinni is right ftb is really all both mon and ddr but that's what I like about it, to me it felt like a "bleach" movie. mon lacked some action, ddr the plot was way too thin for a 90 minute movie, but the action made up for, but still ddr was just a great big dumpload of fan service with awesome music. ftb looked really back at the entire series and had a story ok the snake hollow thing was weird, but it was an emotional story there was good character development more kon time and they did not go overboard with fan service. ftb was more true to tv show than it's predecessors. Looks I know it's not spirited away but compare it to naruto movies and you will see my point. Again would really love like a 2 hr movie finale for the actual anime series. Also any of you guys live in south Asia the english dub of bleach is premiering this friday on animax south Asia. and NO DBZ stunts that was so cheesy--Lemursrule 22:33, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

WOW i saw the poster when i read the new chapter of bleach on wednesday, but i didn't know it was the poster for the new movie!!! I had been waiting for an announcment of a new movie all over the past summer but never got one. I didn't know they were taking a break this year. I think Fade to Black was awesome and the ending had me in tears. This movie will be really good if it focuses on Hollow ichigo.--Vandiir 06:43, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

fade to black was the best of the bleach movies and i hope the 4th one is even better

"Because I am really sick of the same formula over and over and over again".

I agree with Tinni on that one. Bleach movies and especially fillers are usually the same. I mean, we always get to a part where tons of menos are thrown on screen just to give the ensemble cast something to do while the main characters or the main character at hand (Hitsugaya in the second movie and Rukia in the third) go to finish off the villain. Deimonos 11:58, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Not to cause a flame war, but the manga itself it just as formulaic as the movies have been to some people, so I fail to see any logic in what Tinni and those agreeing with her claim. Regardless, the majority of people on the internet tend to eb insuffereably cynical, so it's pretty hard to take their opinions seriously, to be perfectly honest. Anyway, the second and third movies did have the same plot formula, but radically different content and execution for both, and I maintain the argument that Fade to Black was the best of the Bleach movies by far. Let's see what the 4th movie'll be about. Krone8 22:52, July 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's not about being cynical, its about having taste and standards. The fillers and the movies, which are comparable to anime fillers, are garbage which are rife with out-of-character canon-characters due to poor plotting, terrible dialogue and just clumsy storytelling and they all end, as Deimonos put it, with "tons of menos are thrown on screen just to give the ensemble cast something to do while the main characters or the main character at hand go to finish off the villain" <- that's the formula of the fillers and the movies and its now gotten fairly tiresome and predictable. The fact that you compared those piles of garbage to the Bleach manga proper amazes me to no end. Let's get something straight here, Bleach the manga establishes the baseline, the universe, the fillers and the movies are suppose to be part of that universe and can be judged on how well they fit into the universe. I am yet to see a filler or a movie that does fit into universe. They are distinctly inferior and are as out-of-universe as mediocre or worse fanfictions that are on offer in fanfiction.net. There is zero evidence that any of the studio writers have bothers to step back and really get into the ends of the characters they are writing. Which given that Bleach is a character driven manga, makes fillers and movies hard to swallow. If you can swallow them, good for you, but do not dismiss the legitimate dislike of others as "people on the internet are overly cynical". Having standards is not being cynical. Tinni   (Talk)  04:42, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * True true Tinni. Yet I think you may be one of those people who is just far to intelligent to enjoy movies such as these (or even a series such as this. It IS a cartoon/comic/manga). I sure as hell enjoyed all the movies though lol. I mean yeah they have very basic story telling/plot and yeah their lack of cannon characters and plotline can get a little tidious at times. But in some way they have their own flavor that seperates them from the show/manga, and I kinda like it. I know they have very little to offer us as far as "cannon" material goes, but you have to give 'em a bit of a break. I mean sound, picture, character involvement, and Bankai releases are all there. Realy... what else do we want?? ( you guys WAN'T looser SIDE characters?? gimme a break!) Kubo can't give us much of the main story line in a "MOVIE", including Bankai/Shikai/Resurreccion releases (never mind reatarded side characters) that we have yet to see, So what if he makes us watch 'em fight amongst eachother?? Big deal. So what if it all follows "The Cliche"?? Get over it already! You'll be seeing A LOT of it in ALL media as time goes on. Of course it would be wicked if Kubo cooks up some cooler Arrancar/Bankai able Shinigami characters, like he does in the games (which i loved lol), but that has obviously not been an option up to this point. So "BIG fake ass monstrosities" are the best way they can show us ALL the characters abillitys without creating/killing a bunch of cannon based characters. I mean they ARE restricted by the fact that they HAVE TO END the movie in 100 minute period or so. Anyways I'am 100% behind Bleach's fourth film. Cliche or not it WILL still be fantastic :D.
 * True true Tinni. Yet I think you may be one of those people who is just far to intelligent to enjoy movies such as these (or even a series such as this. It IS a cartoon/comic/manga). I sure as hell enjoyed all the movies though lol. I mean yeah they have very basic story telling/plot and yeah their lack of cannon characters and plotline can get a little tidious at times. But in some way they have their own flavor that seperates them from the show/manga, and I kinda like it. I know they have very little to offer us as far as "cannon" material goes, but you have to give 'em a bit of a break. I mean sound, picture, character involvement, and Bankai releases are all there. Realy... what else do we want?? ( you guys WAN'T looser SIDE characters?? gimme a break!) Kubo can't give us much of the main story line in a "MOVIE", including Bankai/Shikai/Resurreccion releases (never mind reatarded side characters) that we have yet to see, So what if he makes us watch 'em fight amongst eachother?? Big deal. So what if it all follows "The Cliche"?? Get over it already! You'll be seeing A LOT of it in ALL media as time goes on. Of course it would be wicked if Kubo cooks up some cooler Arrancar/Bankai able Shinigami characters, like he does in the games (which i loved lol), but that has obviously not been an option up to this point. So "BIG fake ass monstrosities" are the best way they can show us ALL the characters abillitys without creating/killing a bunch of cannon based characters. I mean they ARE restricted by the fact that they HAVE TO END the movie in 100 minute period or so. Anyways I'am 100% behind Bleach's fourth film. Cliche or not it WILL still be fantastic :D.


 * PS:@ Lemursule. I now it has been a long time 4 me to respond, but right back at ya Lem. YOU are a true Bleach fan as well :). You rock lol.   MrHatNClogs. (lol sorry first time editing a page like this, don't know how to add my name+date+time, maybe i just happens I dunno :P)


 * I am not all that hard to satisfy. I just want one thing form the fillers and the movies, a good story with a good plot that is well told. So far they have failed to deliver. I don't expect new canon material, I don't expect them to reveal new abilities. I do however, expect the story to be grounded in canon, the character to be in-character and yes I expect the story to be good. Instead, what you have is the studio writers recreating the "Soul Society Arc" over and over and over. I.e. Find an excuse to send Ichigo to Soul Society, then have him save Soul Society, sometimes by taking on the Gotei 13 and defeating them for their own good. One of the big reasons I absolutely LOATH Fade to Black is that those hacks at the studio were so out of ideas that they even resorted to make the Gotei 13 forget who Ichigo is to recreate the "Soul Society Arc" right down to it being Ichigo vs the Gotei 13 >.> How can anyone be satisfied with that kind of sub-par storytelling! I mean, people actually spent time and money to go see that movie in the theatres! Some bought the DVD! And for what? An inferior recreation of the Soul Society Arc? Come on! Anyway, on the bright side, Kubo is involved with the 4th movie from square one. So if any movie is going to be worth the price of admission, it'll be this one. Tinni   (Talk)  06:54, July 9, 2010 (UTC)