Board Thread:Improvements and Issues/@comment-957629-20190502121436/@comment-5398287-20190518081418

YaoiShadowRuler wrote: I made my stage debut on a fanfiction wiki as well, and that was nearly a decade ago. So it actually does hurt me to some degree, to see you debase the value of certain comments partially because their authors have a background in fanfiction, when I myself attempted to play my part in that activity some time ago. Okay, I should make this clear in case this holds true for anyone else reading this thread: I do not have a problem with fanfiction writers coming here to edit and offer suggestions. We have one on the mod team and he's been a great help around here. When I mention "fanfic wiki users", it is in relation to how that specific Bleach fanfiction wiki (one of two, actually) has consistently been a source of trouble for this wiki, in regards to its users and discussions, and how TWICE now we've been brigaded and harassed by said users in bulk. It's not meant as an attack on you or other fanfiction writers, but I see how it can be read that way and sincerely apologize.

YaoiShadowRuler wrote: Can policies not be changed? Would it not be in this wikis best interest to look into altering ironclad rules for the sake of being more accommodating? All our policies can be read up on here, though I think the most relevant one is Bleach Wiki:Canon Policy (for what it's worth, it was drawn up long before most of the current team came here). I would say our rules are already pretty fair, and it seems we've at least agreed that these novels being canon is on shaky ground, so:

YaoiShadowRuler wrote: If I was to edit an article this instant, and add information from the novels, would I see it there by the next day? Would I see it there within a mere few minutes? Or would your canon policy demand it be removed? And if so, does that not bar people who want to edit on this wiki with novel content from editing in a way they find meaningful? That's entirely dependent on how you add it. As of right now, the conversation of how to best integrate this information has long been stymied, but the pages for Tier Harribel and her subordinates contain info written in the short story Nestle to Night in Bleach: Official Character Book 3 UNMASKED, and specifically has its own section with its own note about canon uncertainty. I've brought that up as a possible solution, but I think the consensus was that it wouldn't quite work the same for these novels since they're much more wide-ranging. As mentioned in the original post, the immediate plan of action is to completely fill out the novel page first and foremost, which Timjer is doing, before we even think about adding novel content to articles, and we've indeed undone edits adding that content for Manual of Style violations (usually referencing and formatting issues). However, I don't believe this bars people from adding the information - like I said, Timjer's been writing out summaries and adding the chapter sketches, and he's done so just fine within our guidelines after simply asking us what to do. Unfortunately, he's been a very rare case so far, though it seems like you're also open to actually working with us, which is a sight for sore eyes. I'm all ears for figuring out what the best way to put this information in would be - whether page tabs, extra subsections, template changes, etc. - but thus far that has not been the topic of conversation.