Talk:Sōsuke Aizen/Archive 4

Kyoka Suigetsu
I think it's worth mentioning somewhere that in Bleach: The 3rd Phantom, Kyouka Suigetsu's fake ability (i.e. the ability Aizen told everyone it had before his reveal in the Soul Society Arc) is "creating illusions with diffused reflections from mist and water". For reference's sake, it can be found here.Grimmjow2 (talk) 20:56, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

It think it could be mentioned in "Appearances in other media" or on the page for that video game. Sode no shirayuki (talk) 21:09, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Kyoka Suigetsus Ritual?
It is never said in Kyoka Suigetsus Shikai description what the "ritual" or "release" is... Maybe it should be explained? Ruffy 15:34, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * The ritual is simply the release of Kyōka Suigetsu, ie. when Aizen says "Shatter". Kai  -  Talk  16:28, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Then I think that should be emphasized on the page, instead of writing "ritual" all over it. "One needs to hear the word Shatter from Aizens mouth to succumb to the Zanpakuto's power" sounds more like it. Ruffy 17:46, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

It actually states it several times in the Powers and Abilities sections that once somebody sees him release his Zanpakutō that then they are hypnotised!! It actually goes into a lot of detail about even the length of Hypnosis!! SunXia  (Chat)  18:27, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Aizen's race
Can he seriously be counted as a shinigami right now?

He was supposed to be something transcend,more than a shinigami or a hollow.

Even though the Hōgyoku seemed to 'not longer recognize Aizen as his master',it's still in Aizen and makes him to be immortal. Adi212 (talk) 07:05, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what to call him. I say he is still a Shinigami, albeit an immortal one. It's hard to say what to call him; until a new race that he fits under pops up, I say leave him as a Shinigami, as although it's not perfect, it's unfortunately our best answer from a list of bad choices. Aeron Solo wuz here (If you wanna talk)  11:54, August 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * While I agree, we don't know what he is, he states many times that he has transcended the state of Shinigami and Hollows, which would mean that he is no longer a Shinigami, and therefore, his race according to the page is inaccurate. I'd put "Shinigami" for the race, and then put "Unknown" right under it, with the chapter he ascends in parenthesis. We do this when a character changes age too (keeping the previous age, then adding the new one with the chapter number in parenthesis), so it wouldn't be inconsistent. Ten Tailed Fox   (Talk with me) 12:04, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

We've already been through this; he transcended the normal limits of a Shinigami from the abilities bestowed upon him by the Hogyoku. His race did not change, "transcended being" is not a race, and even then, aside from his immortality, he lost all of his powers from the Hogyoku. We're not going to classify him as a different race. Arrancar109 (Talk)  15:27, August 22, 2011 (UTC)