Bleach Wiki:Chat/October 23, 2012

 [11:49]  Hi Mohrpheus, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [02:42]  Haha :P [02:42]  Glass is a Barbie Girl [02:43]  Lol. Nope. [02:43]  She's plastic. I'm Glass. [02:43]  Doesn't work. [02:43]  BBQ barbie, not Barbie barbie. :P [02:43]  COME ON BARBIE, LET'S GO PARTY [02:44]  Doesn't matter what Barbie she is. She's still Barbie. [02:44]  Still won't work. :P [02:44]  But it's meant to be a pun!! :( Instead of being girl who likes fashion she's a girl who likes barbies!! [02:48]  Hey God~ [02:48]  Hai Kuro [02:49]  You should totally download the free three day trial to The Secret World and play through it with me. :# [02:49]  :3 * [02:50] <Godismebot> Im busy [02:50] <Mohrpheus> lol [02:50] <KuroAshi98> :'( Not even on the weekend...? [02:52] <Mohrpheus> Give up Kuro! [02:53] <Godismebot> I think you should make your husband play [02:54] <KuroAshi98> I already tried. :P [02:55] <KuroAshi98> It just seems so wrong for me to solo an MMO though. :( [02:55] <Mohrpheus> A failing one for that matter [02:56] <KuroAshi98> How's it failing? [02:57] <Mohrpheus> Bleeding money, losing subscribers. [02:57] <Mohrpheus> The usual. :P [02:57] <KuroAshi98> Oh right, the same thing that kills most subscription games. :P [02:57] <KuroAshi98> Cause everything I've heard about the game points to it being a lot of fun. [02:58] <Mohrpheus> It's fun, I've heard. [02:59] <KuroAshi98> The first boss is Cthulu, come on that's got to be fun. :3 [03:11] <KuroAshi98> So what're we all doing tonight? (It is night, right?) [03:15] <Glass Heart> Sun's barely still up here. :/ And reading Reborn again. [03:20] <KuroAshi98> One of these days I'll get into Reborn. :P [03:26] <Glass Heart> I quit after a few chapters. The first arc is incredibly boring, imo. [03:26] <Glass Heart> At least it got better after. [03:27] <Jushiro971> Bye Bye [03:27] <KuroAshi98> Bye bye~ [03:27] <KuroAshi98> And yeah, I remember downloading the first episode and it was just soooo slow, I never touched it again. :P [03:11] <KuroAshi98> So what're we all doing tonight? (It is night, right?) [03:15] <Glass Heart> Sun's barely still up here. :/ And reading Reborn again. [03:20] <KuroAshi98> One of these days I'll get into Reborn. :P [03:26] <Glass Heart> I quit after a few chapters. The first arc is incredibly boring, imo. [03:26] <Glass Heart> At least it got better after. [03:27] <Jushiro971> Bye Bye [03:27] <KuroAshi98> Bye bye~ [03:27] <KuroAshi98> And yeah, I remember downloading the first episode and it was just soooo slow, I never touched it again. :P [03:29] <Glass Heart> Have yet to watch the anime. Though it seems to stick pretty true to the manga from what I hear. [03:34] <Lemursrule> hey just popping in a sec [03:34] <Glass Heart> Hey Lemurs. [03:34] <Lemursrule> Sun is gadget [03:34] <Lemursrule> it all makes sense now [03:34] <Lemursrule> http://shitmystudentswrite.tumblr.com [03:34] <Lemursrule> pops wrong lnk [03:34] <Lemursrule> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqxeMcxW6HM [03:35] <Godismebot> Sun is gadget because she looks like a mouse [03:35] <Godismebot> If you gave me a mouse and Sun, I don't know if I could tell the two apart =P [03:35] <Mohrpheus> Dat camera [03:35] <Lemursrule> the whole sexism comment makes it so much like sun [03:36] <Lemursrule> the whole no pants thing [03:36] <Lemursrule> I am also found an old rescue ranger golden book so I am working on a picture of a drunk Gadget to piss sun off [03:37] <Mohrpheus> lol [03:37] <Lemursrule> http://images.wikia.com/robotchicken748/images/2/2b/Disemboweled_by_an_Orphan.jpg I am so temped to post this on sun's talk page [03:39] <KuroAshi98> Heyy Lemurs~ [03:39] <Lemursrule> hey [03:39] <Lemursrule> I found things to piss sun off its fun [03:40] <KuroAshi98> Haha :P Nice [03:40] <Lemursrule> last night's robot chicken was great best in a long time [03:40] <Lemursrule> two rescue rangers skits [03:41] <Lemursrule> one about certain male habits and sexism and the other addiction [03:41] <Godismebot> Pissin Sun off is easy. I do it all the time! [03:42] <Mohrpheus> I need to get Season 6 once it comes out, I make it a point to collect all them [03:42] <KuroAshi98> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqmSwtZAEHM This needs to be a game lol [03:43] <Lemursrule> nice [03:44] <KuroAshi98> Gotta collect them all Morph. :P [03:45] <Godismebot> Uggh, I am getting so sick of this As and NaNaNa status debate thing [03:45] <Godismebot> This is why I say we need to just get rid of statuses from all articles [03:46] <Lemursrule> I said yes to that awhile ago, its more trouble than its worth [03:46] <Godismebot> Sal is the only one who wants to keep them [03:46] <Lemursrule> but its dumb [03:47] <Godismebot> Frankly, As and NaNaNa should be listed as unknown but Sal is hellbent on saying that it is not possible for Yama to not kill someone [03:47] <KuroAshi98> ... [03:47] <KuroAshi98> really? [03:47] <KuroAshi98> I heard him say that before, but I didn't think it was his legit argument... [03:48] <Lemursrule> Sal's in denial [03:48] <Godismebot> Thats pretty much what he believes [03:48] <KuroAshi98> So the Tres Bestia (or whatever their name is) are zombies? [03:48] <Godismebot> He does not believe it is possible for Yama to attack a person and leave them alive [03:48] <Godismebot> I have cited evidence that he has spared people in the past, but he doesnt believe it [03:49] <Lemursrule> some things I agree with sal on others just no…and hell the dub even clarified that he did not kill them and he just "toasted them." [03:49] <Godismebot> Exactly [03:49] <Godismebot> He said he "gave them a light toasting" [03:49] <KuroAshi98> How can dead people ask Orihime to heal Hallibel? It's just.... argh... [03:49] <Godismebot> And if one of the three he recently attacked has survived, then it means the others could reasonably be alive [03:49] <Godismebot> They were never said to be deceased [03:50] <Godismebot> but in Sal's mind, Yama cannot not kill someone [03:50] <KuroAshi98> Now I get why he was so pissed at me for saying Yama didn't live up to being, "the strongest Shinigami ever to live". [03:51] <KuroAshi98> I believe his words word, "Kuro you're out of line on this one", as if I'd broken a rule haha [03:51] <KuroAshi98> words were* [03:51] <Godismebot> Yama is Sal's favorite character [03:51] <Lemursrule> oh and don't get me started on the harribel and rangiku incidents, even though I knew from the beginning Harribel was alive and that just believing Mashiro was a bit of a stretch but even I let it go [03:51] <Godismebot> Well, we have to go off of what is said, its not up to us to interpret and speculate [03:52] <Godismebot> If someone is said to be dead, we have to say they are dead [03:52] <Godismebot> Thats the whole problem with the Byakuya incident [03:52] <Lemursrule> true which is why I like the Harribel thing go [03:52] <Lemursrule> but deep down I knew she was alive [03:53] <Godismebot> Oh Lemurs, did you see the greatest blog ever written? [03:53] <Godismebot> User blog:Manani/Halloween-aka bleach episode_304 [03:53] <KuroAshi98> I never get too bothered with those kinds of things, if they turn out to be alive later then we just change it back. No harm done. [03:53] <Godismebot> Hi Mohrpheus, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [03:54] <Lemursrule> wow [03:54] <Mohrpheus> - [03:54] <Mohrpheus> Blegh [03:54] <Lemursrule> even my shitty posts are better than that [03:55] <Lemursrule> oh speaking of Halloween we should look for a christmas background [03:55] <Godismebot> Cause we so needed an entire blog dedicated to telling us what each person was dressed up as in an episode based off the FUCKING BACKGROUND [03:55] <Godismebot> Hi Mohrpheus, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [03:56] <Lemursrule> YES THE SITE WOULD HAVE FUCKING CRASHED IF THAT BLOG DID NOT EXIST THANK YOU USER [03:56] <Godismebot> Mohrph, fix connection [03:56] <Godismebot> k? [03:56] <Mohrpheus> It's my computer, not my connection [03:56] <Mohrpheus> Piece of crap [03:57] <Mohrpheus> And the hell are you talking about Lemur lol? [03:57] <Lemursrule> the greatest blog post [03:57] <Lemursrule> User_blog:Manani/Halloween-aka_bleach_episode_304' [03:57] <Godismebot> Mohrph, remember that blog I linked you last night? [03:57] <Mohrpheus> Oh, I know. But I mean what is this about crashing? [03:57] <Lemursrule> User_blog:Manani/Halloween-aka_bleach_episode_304 [03:57] <Lemursrule> I was being sarcastic [03:58] <Lemursrule> I joked the site would crash without the blog…you know like seddie [03:58] <Mohrpheus> lol [03:58] <Lemursrule> I can't believe I still remember that [03:59] <Godismebot> :( I wish wikia would go back to the old way of moving pages [03:59] <Godismebot> I want to move Seddie [03:59] <Lemursrule> oh it still exists [03:59] <Mohrpheus> Seddie? [03:59] <Godismebot> The article still exists, but moving it would not be catastrophic any longer [03:59] <KuroAshi98> http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/359/c/5/bleach_stocking_fillers_by_nekoni-d35mlz9.jpg Bleach Christmas? :P [03:59] <Godismebot> w:c:icarly:Seddie [04:00] <Godismebot> Look at all those article comments [04:00] <Lemursrule> I love it so much Kuro [04:01] <Glass Heart> Latest comment's about a guy having midterms. :/ [04:01] <KuroAshi98> I know right? Perfect background. :P [04:01] <Mohrpheus> Dafuq [04:01] <Godismebot> In wikia's old way of moving pages, if that page were moved, the job queue would be loaded up for the next 100 years or so as it moved each of those subpages to a new name [04:01] <Godismebot> That means no editing for 100 years [04:01] <Godismebot> Now, when you move a page, you can only move 100 subpages [04:01] <Lemursrule> I also thought of having Appachi as a reindeer [04:02] <Lemursrule> I can't believe wikia did not put in a comment limit [04:03] <KuroAshi98> http://i1.pixiv.net/img61/img/rikkaissetu/23805018.png How's this? (need a pixiv account to see) [04:03] <Mohrpheus> 403 [04:03] <Mohrpheus> D: [04:03] <Mohrpheus> Stupid... [04:04] <Godismebot> http://bleach.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Can_Orihime_revive_Aaroniero_using_his_frozen_remains?rcid=106166 [04:04] <Mohrpheus> There we go. [04:04] <Mohrpheus> Now, can she? [04:04] <KuroAshi98> "The better question is, why would she?" [04:04] <Mohrpheus> Doesn't answer the question, though. [04:05] <Lemursrule> can I write an obnoxious answer [04:05] <Godismebot> Yes, as I learned today that she does not need to be in the same dimension as someone to heal them [04:05] <Mohrpheus> I saw [04:05] <Lemursrule> wait what [04:05] <Godismebot> She can heal them with her mind now! [04:05] <Mohrpheus> Which question gave you that idea? [04:05] <Godismebot> Someone brought it up on a talk page, let me grab it [04:05] <Lemursrule> so Orihime is phoenix now? [04:05] <Godismebot> http://bleach.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Can_orahime_heal_byakuya [04:06] <Godismebot> Yyp's answer to the question was "Orihime is not in Soul Society now and thus cannot heal anyone" [04:06] <Godismebot> Not according to this guy though [04:06] <Mohrpheus> Hm. Sounds like he thought it meant her power only works in Soul Society [04:07] <KuroAshi98> According to Hacchi she can heal/revive people without even having their remains, which makes the entire power ridiculous. [04:07] <Mohrpheus> Which is an almost equally stupid statement [04:07] <Godismebot> Orihime has the potential to be the strongest character in the series [04:07] <Godismebot> Not that she ever will be [04:07] <Godismebot> But yeah [04:08] <Lemursrule> watch Kubo will use her to troll [04:08] <Mohrpheus> She will resurrect Yama in his prime [04:08] <Mohrpheus> !!! [04:08] <KuroAshi98> Just for that Morph, I'm banning you on OP. :P [04:09] <Mohrpheus> And then she'll try to restore Kyoka Suigetsu, but can't. [04:09] <Mohrpheus> Aizen then reveals that this entire arc is his Bankai [04:09] <Godismebot> and then Aizen slaughters everyone [04:09] <Godismebot> and then takes his place on the Spirit King's throne [04:09] <Godismebot> good story [04:10] <Godismebot> User_blog:Kisukeiscool100396/Weekly_Shonen_Jump_Alpha_to_have_simultaneous_release_with_Japan's_WSJ.#comm-65381 [04:11] <Mohrpheus> Well, that's not obnoxious at all. [04:11] <Lemursrule> well at least shueshia is trying and remember other people [04:11] <Lemursrule> other than north america and japan [04:11] <Mohrpheus> No, it's the comment [04:11] <Mohrpheus> "Added a small update. Read it, you f**kers." [04:11] <Godismebot> I'm more concerned about the "Read it you fuckers" part [04:11] <Lemursrule> yeah I know [04:11] <Mohrpheus> It was an otherwise informative blog post [04:11] <Lemursrule> what is up with that [04:12] <Godismebot> I don't know but we'll see what Yyp does [04:14] <Mohrpheus> His profile makes me cringe [04:14] <Lemursrule> Kisuke doesn't really have 'much' of a track record, so he might take it easy on him [04:15] <Godismebot> I think his intention was to be funny, but regardless, it is not appropriate [04:17] <Lemursrule> true [04:18] <Lemursrule> here is the greatest profile image of all time http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc7z6qvE9z1ryjpdf.jpg [04:18] <Godismebot> d'aww Mr. N User talk:Jushiro971?curid=55736&amp;diff=328220&amp;oldid=327981 [04:19] <Mohrpheus> There is something very wrong with this. [04:19] <Godismebot> I feel like patting him on the head [04:21] <Lemursrule> aww N [04:21] <Mohrpheus> I think I am missing something. [04:21] <Godismebot> He is just encouraging the projects. I don't think he knows that Jushiro is on chat most days and knows what is going on [04:22] <Mohrpheus> That would be it. [04:22] <Lemursrule> yeah [04:23] <Lemursrule> I have never seen him on any social outlets here [04:23] <Mohrpheus> And wow, just saw Kruinra's post about As and NaNaNa. Must be trying to compete with Sal for wall of text award. [04:23] <Godismebot> Hi Salubri, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [04:23] <Mohrpheus> Speak of the devil [04:23] <Mohrpheus> I think I inherited some of Kuro's power. [04:24] <Lemursrule> anyway I have archery class in the morning, oh sorry sal I need to go we can chat later….I need sleep age and soul resureccionage [04:24] <Lemursrule> night guys [04:24] <Salubri> maybe the vandenreich talk page and related pages should be protected [04:24] <Lemursrule> I would sal [04:24] <Lemursrule> night o off to bed I gooooooooooooooooooooooo! [04:25] <Mohrpheus> If it gets locked, chances are, it's never going to be unlocked. [04:25] <Mohrpheus> At this rate [04:25] <KuroAshi98> Lemurs, learning how to kill us all from a distance. [04:25] <Godismebot> I don't believe a talk page should ever be locked [04:25] <Salubri> its just every time i turn around someone is going on this long as rant about much of nothing important [04:26] <Godismebot> Let them rant, it doesnt stop us from taking care of the articles [04:26] <Mohrpheus> I wouldn't say it isn't important. But people keep bringing up crap that they think we don't know already. [04:27] <Salubri> article talk pages arent for random conversation [04:27] <Godismebot> Never doubt the inability of people to read other things before posting [04:28] <Mohrpheus> It's not conversation, it's about the character status, which constitutes article content. Which is the problem with statuses in general. [04:28] <Mohrpheus> They were never brought back in an official capacity, yet here we are. [04:29] <Salubri> whoa wait a min [04:30] <Salubri> to make it clear i took them off pages it was never a question of official capacity or not it just is [04:30] <Mohrpheus> My point is that they were taken off because they caused arguments. Yet here we are. [04:31] <Salubri> Then i realized why are random people dictating whats on the site [04:32] <Godismebot> I have said many times before, I support removing statuses from the entire site. They contribute just about nothing to the article content and only cause arguments. Status can be learned by reading the info on a character pages [04:32] <Salubri> status is apart of life and stories as well, it makes no sense every site in existence can have status and we cant cause people complain we dont take their opinion into account [04:33] <Salubri> are we not sure Gin is dead [04:33] <Salubri> or tosen [04:33] <Salubri> or all but 2 of the espada [04:34] <Godismebot> Like I said, status can be learned by reading the article [04:34] <Mohrpheus> The problem is that it isn't always a sure thing. We can't pretend it is. [04:34] <Salubri> neither can reading the article [04:35] <Salubri> Gins article said for a considerable amount of time alot but that he was dead [04:36] <Godismebot> Statuses only serve to cause argument. No one who believes Gin is alive is going to change their mind because we said so. Rather, they are going to argue that they are alive. We can provide all the facts we want but it will not change their mind. [04:37] <Godismebot> If we instead leave status off all articles, it is up to the reader to decide what they believe the status is and those who understand the story will know the status, those who do not will continue to live in denial [04:37] <Salubri> then in that case it doesnt matter either way so its not revelent, the argument is caused by the status its caused by opinion even if his article said he was dead they would argue that [04:38] <Mohrpheus> That really doesn't change anything though. The article will still say whether the character died or not in the end. That's still a status, even if it isn't a word in a textbox [04:38] <Salubri> there is no status on every page its only in organization pages [04:38] <Godismebot> Its the word in the textbox that causes problems [04:38] <Godismebot> remove it from the text box and keep it purely in plot sections and the problem goes away [04:39] <Godismebot> They won't bother with a referenced piece of information in the plot section [04:39] <Godismebot> its jut the word in the tables that they do not like [04:39] <Salubri> so your intention is to cater to every person that comes on the site and complains [04:40] <Godismebot> My intention is to create the easiest environment to work in [04:40] <Salubri> since when [04:40] <Salubri> lol [04:41] <Godismebot> If statuses are removed entirely, we don't have to sit here and get angry over people constantly trying to change statuses [04:41] <Godismebot> if they are removed, we don't need to undo hundreds of edits of people changing statuses [04:41] <Godismebot> If they are removed, we have to block fewer idiots [04:42] <Godismebot> If they are removed, we don't have to deal with uncertainty [04:42] <Salubri> there is literally there is literally 17 pages with status and the only one in contention is maybe vandenreich and sternritter [04:43] <Godismebot> Because those are the ones with current possible deaths [04:43] <Godismebot> Before it was the division pages [04:43] <Godismebot> No matter how many pages statuses are on, people will find them and contest them [04:44] <Salubri> So you want me to destroy tables on 17 pages [04:44] <Godismebot> Removing one column would not destroy tables [04:45] <Godismebot> Statuses as we do them require a certain amount of speculation on our side. Who is to say that Shunsui is not dead, or to say that Kenpachi is not dead? Both took significant damage [04:46] <Godismebot> Yet we list them as alive because we don't believe that damage was enough to warrant changing their status to unknown [04:50] <Godismebot> I'm not saying we need to remove statuses immediately, just that it is something that should be considered [04:51] <Godismebot> Its not giving in to the idiots when doing so would relieve a lot of stress. The idiots want statuses, they just want them their way [04:52] <Salubri> Then make it easier nothing else is a problem right now, take status of Vandenreich and Sternritter [04:53] <Godismebot> But status will still be a problem once more Shinigami die [04:53] <Godismebot> Then the division pages and the Gotei 13 pages will be a problem [04:54] <Godismebot> And we all know the Espada page has always been a problem [04:54] <Godismebot> We have banned several people for changing Espada statuses [04:54] <Salubri> well im not playing the all or nothing game [04:55] <Godismebot> Its an all or nothing situation. We can't have some organization pages with statuses and some without [04:55] <Godismebot> Its not organized [04:56] <Godismebot> If you really want statuses, fine, we can keep them, but I am not going to argue them any longer. Ill leave the undoing of status changes to you and anyone who supports keeping them. They are too much of a hassle [04:57] <Salubri> if we get rid of status the tables have to go to, there is no point in having if they have no status, thus why i created them in the first place [04:58] <Godismebot> The tables provide information in list form. The Stern Ritter table provides the name, epithet and letter of each stern ritter [04:59] <Godismebot> The Gotei 13 table gives the name, position and division of each member [04:59] <Godismebot> there is more information there than just statuses [05:00] <Salubri> So you think its easier for someone to read every character article in its entirety to determine if they are dead, instead of going to one page [05:01] <Godismebot> If they really want to know a person's status, they can read the last part of their plot section. That will tell them