Talk:Kōga Kuchiki

Yūkōjōchū or Mūkōjōchū?
I've recently watched episode 247 and am currently watching episode 250, and in both episodes, when referring to Muramasa's Shikai ability of Yūkōjōchū Muramasa, they instead say Mūkōjōchū Muramasa. Is this a romanization error or Viz translation preference, or did the English Dub correct the word much like how Viz corrected Brazo Derecha de Gigante? Because if the latter is the case, should we change it?--Xilinoc (talk) 00:30, October 16, 2013 (UTC)

Yūkōjōchū Muramasa is Bankai
According to CD 11 of the Zanpakutō Rebellion arc (source from here), Yūkōjōchū Muramasa is Kōga's Bankai. Yatanogarasu (talk) 23:55, April 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah...uh...oh, no. Oh gosh, oh geez.


 * Alright, in this case we've got more proof than with Ichinose, but let me say this: I'd take this information with a grain of salt because the anime never really indicates that this is Kōga's Bankai. As with Maki, if they wanted him to have a Bankai, that'd be fine and very easy to implement because he's a filler character - he'd just have to have said "Bankai" before saying the words "Yūkōjōchū Muramasa" and that would be that, no hinting or beating around the bush necessary. However, he never did, and to my knowledge Bankai has only ever been performed without saying the word once in the entire series, which was by Byakuya, well-known for being a master of his Zanpakutō (which Kōga really wasn't). On top of that, I think we've gotten incorrect info from the Japanese wiki before, and this CD is supplementary material to already existing supplementary material - who knows if the information therein was written by Kubo, or even by Pierrot, Kōga's creators?--Xilinoc (talk) 03:48, April 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, Kōga himself is non-canon, and so would all these supplementary. But the fact that it is there is the best source we have. Maybe the anime makers just "plum forgot" to add "Bankai" to the script for whatever reason, so they decide to add it with the supplementary. Point is, if something sources it (aside from fandom or complete speculation), then we should use it. It's not like Shaz Domino's ability, "Sigma", which is from a non-canon source (light novel), while Shaz himself is manga-canon; both Kōga and the supplementary are non-canon, so this source can be compatible. Yatanogarasu (talk) 04:31, April 24, 2016 (UTC)