Bleach Wiki talk:Image Gallery/Archive2

Jackie Tristan
So The current one looks extremely awkward with her hand up like that.. this one is much better, thoughts?--GodofFear (talk) 22:13, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) - The current pic shows more of Jackie's head than the proposal does. Arrancar109  (Talk)  22:19, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) - Its more centered on her, shes facing the camera directly and it is perfectly symmetrical. higher quality, and doesn't have her arm awkwardly in the image. the only negative thing is she doesn't have her whole head in it, but i think everything definitely makes up for that.
 * 3) I'm gonna have to agree with Arrancar here. While it is indeed true that the proposal is closer and whatnot, it doesn't show her full head, the original has roughly the same level of detail, and the hand really isn't that bad.--Xilinoc (talk) 00:39, November 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * 4) In addition to what Xil and Arran said, I would also like to see some padding between the actual head and the image borders.

Ururu Tsumugiya
So sorry this took so long but after the Arrancar Arc (aka with higher quality) she is not really there and I was searching the episodes listed in her references to see if there is even a flash towards her!! I am continuing to prowl but I have these so far!! Current picture is a movie image so it must change!!


 * Well, it's clear we need something other than a movie image for Ururu, so I'm gonna say option 1, given the two.
 * 1) Option 1, it doesn't have that cutoff at the bottom and the colors look more robust than the 2nd
 * 2) Option 1 too
 * 3) It looks a little different than Ururu's usual appearance, but Option 1 seems better here.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:49, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Äs Nödt
Currently, Äs' profile has it from a semi-side angle, is somewhat lacking when it comes to smoothness and detail, and has part of a text bubble on the right side. I've found two other panels that 1. display it a bit more from the front, 2. are smoother and more detailed regarding its face, and 3. don't have any text bubbles. While admittedly the first proposal isn't 250px, it's the only decent image I found of it facing forward, and if it's preferred I could try to find a larger version. The second proposal, though, has some more detail and is zoomed in a bit more.--Xilinoc (talk) 06:16, July 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * 1) Option 2 for being detailed and isn't blurry around the eyes as Option 1, and is more camera facing than the current one we have.
 * 2) Option 2. It's not facing forward like 1 is, but it also doesn't have those "camera zoom" lines distorting it.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  19:24, July 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * 1) Sorry out of those I prefer the current one, not only its shape and size, but its angle too and those other two are also at awkward angles as well!!


 * Neutral - Of the two proposed replacements, 2 is the better and it shows a little bit more of her face, even if it is from an odd angle. On the negative side, there it still has a text bubble and the spikes are a bit harder to discern. 1 is rather lacking imo. The question is how much better is prop2 than the current pic. To me the answer is not that much better. I'm inclined to leave it be until a better shot comes along. 12:58, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Bambietta Basterbine
I have put up this option from Chapter 554, which I think is a better choice. Neutral - It already seems pretty much decided, but my only caveat with the image is that her expression is somewhat distorted for comical purposes (given the context of that entire scene). However, seeing as she just transformed and we are unlikely to have another chance to get a "base form" mugshot for her, I think this one could suffice. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  00:31, October 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Aside from the fact I put this as my profile pic hours ago (takes off hipster glasses) I think this really is a better pic. Her profile's clearly defined without the shading from the current one, which really is the only problem I have with the current picture. Still, this is easily a better option. FutureQuincy (talk) 02:58, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) Because why wouldn't I support my image?
 * 3) Better.  11:00, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * 4) Good view of her face and, it has better lighting Naruto 45 (talk) 22:54, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * 5) We're probably going to get better options in the future, but this is good given what we have available.

Shizuku
Okay, so this is something I've been meaning to bring up for a while now. Shizuku's current profile is...ehhhhh. He's looking at the camera with his face turned to the side, his scythe's handle is just...there for no good reason, and you don't see much of his face. While that last bit may not be possible in any frame due to his hairstyle, I think we can do better. Of the two possible replacements I've found, the first one shows more of his shoulders and chest and is brighter, but isn't as focused on his face and has his mouth open in surprise. The second one is more focused on his face and has him with a neutral expression, but is somewhat darker save for the left side. Either way, I think they're both better than the current one.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:01, August 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * 1) Of the two, I prefer Proposal 2 more, due to the neutral expression and the focus on the face.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:01, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) Option 2 as well, more natural expression better than current one!!
 * 3) Door #2 because it is a direct angle and looks better.

Sōsuke Aizen
Option 1 has Aizen facing directly forward while also portraying all of his hair and retaining lighting. IMO a better profile image. 05:00, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Option 1 - I obviously support this proposition.  05:00, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

I've added the image Sun used for Aizen's character pic, which is what we're looking for but also more detailed and whatnot.--Xilinoc (talk) 23:12, December 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * 1) I don't support this change. While it would be nice to have one that includes his whole head, the current picture is better than both options presented.  19:20, December 22, 2013 (UTC)

Yhwach
After much searching, I think I've found a suitable profile image for Yhwach. He's facing the camera completely, face is visible, so on and so forth. The current one technically does all this as well, but it has a lot of his body in it, and his head is kind of in the corner and not really focused on. However, the original frame has quite a bit of his shoulders and such, so that could be added in if deemed necessary.--Xilinoc (talk) 03:31, December 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 03:31, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) Yeah, I have no reason to disagree with any of the above. The proposal certainly fits the bill a bit more than the current one.
 * 3) The Quincy agrees. Much better for His Majesty. FutureQuincy (talk) 03:42, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * 4)  He's facing the camera completely, face is visible and looks more menacing.--Darkhunter-X (talk) 03:46, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * 5) Overall, there is more detail and it better fits the policies.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  04:08, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * 6) Improvement.  11:37, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * 7) Yea this new one is fine.--
 * 8) This is vastly superior. -- 05:28, December 29, 2013 (UTC)

Background Change Candidates
So we were talking about new backgrounds in chat earlier, and after presenting this option most seemed to be in agreement. So I've got the permission of the original manga colour artists, and here we are to vote. Feel free to throw up any other alternatives or suggest other images to be used (I'm happy to create more).

''To keep this short the voting period will be one week. Voting ends on October 9 according to the wiki clock.

15:38, October 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * 1) - yep, I like it.
 * 2) Kami likey.
 * 3) - prefer the one we have looks way more professional!!

Lemurs made a number of alternative backgrounds a while back to fit the new color scheme we've got going on, so I saw it fit to add them to the proposals. Personally, I wouldn't mind if it were changed, but the current background just seems right to me.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:24, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * 1) The picture arrangements look nice and all, but frankly I'm more comfortable with black and white than I am with the Red, White and Blue Turbo Rocket™ color scale. -  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  22:32, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) To be honest I never really found a design I was particularly satisfied with. The color scheme, I agree is an issue, personally I would prefer either a duotone or just black and white color scheme. If anyone has any proposals for a new background, I have the software capable of pretty much doing anything within reason. I could even attempt to redo the current background in a scalable vector format. -- 02:49, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Pesche Guatiche
In the current profile picture, Pesche's eye is rather exaggerated. The two proposals show more of his natural facial expression. 09:04, January 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Proposal 2 is better. It is not as zoomed out as the current one and doesn't have the exaggerated eye. But before it could be used, the FUR would need to be added. If that is done, I would support the change.  11:55, January 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) FUR issue is solved. I see no problem. (Proposal 2)
 * 3)  Proposal 2.  03:18, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Proposal 2, big improvement.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  03:20, January 10, 2014 (UTC)

Quincy: Letzt Stil
I think this is the best place for this discussion. Currently, the profile GIF for Quincy: Letzt Stil shows Uryū creating an arrow and firing it. However, I believe it would be much more fitting to show Uryū actually activating Letzt Stil and displaying what it looks like instead of just showing his attack, so I had Sun make a GIF showing just that. Thoughts on changing the profile GIF? I'm aware the first GIF is much smoother, but quality over smoothness and all that.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:38, November 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * 1) - as the person who brought this up, I support the change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:38, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Is there somewhere to have him firing the weapon as in the actual attack, I mean it is a pretty strong, relevant attack??

That could probably go next to the Spirit Weapon Augmentation section, actually. Good point.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:58, November 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * 1) the problem with the original is there's too much not-Uryu.
 * 2) Yay for overdue voting. The proposal better shows the transformation and appearance, and the old one still has a valid use. Good enough for me.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  03:05, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) For the reasons above.
 * 4) Proposal shows the transformation better. I've got no objections. FutureQuincy (talk) 05:40, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) I agree with what everyone else has stated above.-- 05:42, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

NaNaNa Najahkoop
This image has a lot more detail and is not as elongated!!
 * 1) Proposer!!
 * 2) Much better than what we currently have.
 * 3) A good view of his face. Naruto 45 (talk) 02:48, January 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) The Quincy agrees. Much better. FutureQuincy (talk) 02:54, January 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) His head is a bit oddly angled, but it's better than the current.
 * 6) Agree,d it fits better.  15:15, January 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * 7) Sure, why not. Plus, dem teeth.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:49, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * 8) Late to the party, but I'd say go for it.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  00:40, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Ganju Shiba
The image for Ganju's profile features him as slightly battle worn. Both of these images feature him in two different versions of his typical attire, as Ganju is known to change it depending on the circumstances. These images are also .png's, therefore they are better used in the slimming down process that wiki users tend to use for infobox pictures. ☆  Syler   私は理解していない！ 私は理解していません  22:12, February 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Proposal 1 - his attire is not as common as the 2nd proposal, but I prefer this one. ☆  Syler    私は理解していない！ 私は理解していません  22:12, February 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Neither of those are acceptable replacements for the current image!! EDIT: Also they are both illegal images!!
 * 2) Yeah, these two images have Ganju looking at the screen, plus weird camera angles, zooming, and in one case his arm is a distractor. Also, neither image conforms to the Bleach Wiki:Image Policy as they both do not have FUR or licensing.
 * 3) See above.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:34, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Shunsui Kyōraku & Jūshirō Ukitake vs. Coyote Starrk
At the moment, the profile picture for this article does not feature Ukitake in it. The three alternatives presented show all characters involved in the battle. 11:48, January 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Proposal 1 - all combatants are clearly distinguishable.  03:18, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Proposal 3- I feel this is a better view.

Going on a little long for this, chose the second one as can see them more clearly without bad background!! Archiving!!

Ichigo Kurosaki vs. Sōsuke Aizen
Alright, so this has been bugging me for some time now. The current main image for Ichigo vs. Aizen has 1. no actual fighting going on, 2. a close-up of Aizen with part of his head obscured and a lot of it in shadow, and 3. a zoomed-out shot of Ichigo standing in the background. On top of not really being a good image for the fight, I don't think that does justice for one of the most important fights of the series. The first alternative I've put up shows Ichigo and Aizen clashing in a shot that shows both of their new forms, but it has that trademark Pierrot quality of low quality on both combatants. The second one, however, also show them clashing, and shows both relatively evenly. Additionally, it's also a shot from the original chapter, so that helps.--Xilinoc (talk) 23:30, February 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Proposal 2 is my preference here.--Xilinoc (talk) 23:30, February 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Proposal 2 look's the best for the page.Naruto 45 (talk) 00:39, February 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Proposal 2. Shows the two clashing up close and better represents the actual fight. Definitely gets the job done. FutureQuincy (talk) 00:44, February 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Gonna go with 2 here. The current is so.... meh. And 2 is the better of the proposals.
 * 5) Gonna have to go with 2 as well.-- 05:18, February 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) Proposal 2 --
 * 7) Proposal 2. My vote isn't really necessary since the support for 2 is so overwhelming... But I'll vote anyway. Number 2 depicts the fighting accurately and shows the characters in more detail.  10:53, February 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Since the overwhelming numbers for this show that Option 2 is the best, I've changeed and Archived this!!

Zangetsu (Quincy Powers)
So, the current profile image for Yhwach!Zangetsu portrays him from a side-and-bottom angle of sorts, doesn't have him looking at the camera, and doesn't really show his full face. Meanwhile, the proposal has him facing the camera, and shows his full face and a bit more of his upper torso.--Xilinoc (talk) 03:12, February 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 03:12, February 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Definitely much better than what we currently have.
 * 3) I AM VOTING BECAUSE I WAS TOLD TO VOTE AND I AM A MINDLESS MONKEY! The proposal is better, though.
 * 4) Dat lens glare.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  03:47, February 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) Same as above. Naruto 45 (talk) 04:01, February 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) Voting, so I can let everyone know I'm not quite dead yet. But yes, I agree with everyone else, the proposal is better. Arrancar109  (Talk)  05:57, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

Tatsuki Arisawa Pre-Time Skip Profile Image
I think the Proposed is better, there are no obstacles in the foreground and the expression is much more natural.

If possible, could someone get a higher res image for the proposed?
 * 1) Proposer.
 * 2)  I don't really like either since the current has a strange expression on her face and the proposed is somewhat too unfocused. However, out of the two I prefer the proposed since it has a more natural expression.  18:52, March 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Not really going to get much better and natural for pre-timeskip for her and it looks better zoomed in!!
 * 4) Expression looks more neutral and is more focused on her face.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  20:05, March 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) To be honest, it's not much better of an option, but it's probably the best we'll find. And the original has that weird expression going on.

Guenael Lee
So, the current picture annoys me very much with Isane's hair obstructing it, the speech bubble and Guenael not directly facing the camera. With the new chapter there is a new option. This picture, though not showing as much of his head, gives a clearer view of Guenael. 13:40, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Well, I obviously support it and I've stated my reasons above. 13:40, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Neither one is great for a profile image. I'd prefer a picture that does not cut out his hair and whatever those circles are on his head. Though we may not get such a picture. 12:56, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Yyp on this one. We should wait to see if something better appears.-- 13:13, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

I also agree with Yyp the current picture is the best we have, not to mention that the proposed is too close up to the point where his hair is cut out. Mr.Rig and Zig 22:44, March 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1)  I've pretty much stated my reasons above. Mr.Rig and Zig 22:46, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) The new one isn't that great, and there won't be any new ones, I don't think.

Pepe
The profile image of the mind-controlling guy that we now know as Pepe has been bugging me for a while, and thankfully this week's chapter has provided a much more suitable alternative. While Pepe's current profile is a smudgy close-up of his face from the side, my proposal is from the front, is much higher quality, and is zoomed out to show off that kickass beard and...wifebeater, it looks like. Probably the best we'll get of him bar a high-def shot of his head in a future chapter.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:08, April 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) - As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:08, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Huge improvement.
 * 3) I agree this one is much better. Naruto 45 (talk) 02:21, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) gud
 * 5) Better falls in line with the guidelines.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  03:02, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) I think its better then what we have for sure.--
 * 7) My vote Is completely unnecessary because of the overwhelming support it already has, but I'll vote anyways because it's so much better. -- 10:00, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Ashisogi Jizō (Zanpakutō spirit)
As I recall, a character's profile image is supposed to focus on their head and possibly upper torso instead of showing their entire body. With that in mind, I propose we change Ashisogi Jizō's profile image. While the current image is a medium resolution picture of his full body, the proposal shows his head and shoulders in more details, as well as cutting out a lot of the wings.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Fits within the rules more.
 * 3) New proposal works best.--
 * 4) better fit for what we want.  11:19, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) Much better. Arrancar109  (Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Gonryōmaru (Zanpakutō spirit)
Since there's only one episode where Gonryōmaru appears in the sunlight, I'm making do with him appearing at night. While his current profile image has him turned slightly away from the camera and has a ton of space on either side of him, the proposal is much more focused, and has him facing forward.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Far better
 * 3) New proposal works best.--
 * 4) Much improved  11:19, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) For the reasons above
 * 6) Works much better than the current. I'm on board. Arrancar109  (Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Hyōrinmaru (Zanpakutō spirit)
This change is probably the most important out of all of them. Hyōrinmaru's current profile image has him at an angle, in shadow at night, and off to the side. No. Just no, no, no. The proposal, meanwhile, shows him facing the camera head-on, is focused at the center, and has him in regular lighting while still showing his head and shoulders and such.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Reasons already stated
 * 3) New proposal works best.--
 * 4) Better hands down.  11:19, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) For the reasons above
 * 6) Definitely an improvement. It's got my vote. Arrancar109  (Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Muramasa (Zanpakutō spirit)
While Muramasa's current profile image does have him in good lighting, facing forward, etc., it has that trademark Pierrot quality of having an oddly-shaped face; specifically, Muramasa's head and mouth are thinner than how they usually appear in the anime, and his expression is just...strange. Plus, he has a large amount of space on either side of his head devoted to his fluffy collar, something I don't feel is necessary. Both proposals show him in his usual appearance, but one is slightly darker and shows some more of the top of his head and such, while the other has him in full daylight, but cuts off the top of his head so you can only see the sides and bangs. Still though, full daylight and all that.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) I prefer Proposal 1 myself. Despite it being slightly darker, it shows some more of his head, and he usually looks slightly irked anyway.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Proposal 1 - both are better than the current. Shading on 2 isn't as good though
 * 3) proposal 1 works best.--
 * 4) For the reasons above
 * 5) Both proposals are good, but I'm going to go with 1. Arrancar109  (Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Senbonzakura (Zanpakutō spirit)
As above, Senbonzakura's current profile image does have him facing forward and in somewhat good lighting. However, the focus is what's wrong here; his head is relegated to the very top of the image, while his shoulders and breastplates take up a large portion below, leaving his head somewhat hard to see in detail. As such, I've found two alternatives; the first proposal shows his mask (which is basically his face, let's be honest here) in much greater detail and shows his bangs and part of his neck, while the second proposal, while of a somewhat lesser quality, shows his entire head and his hair, which is good.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Between the two, I prefer Proposal 1 because it focuses on his "face" in greater detail, and still shows a fair amount of his hair in the process. Scratch that, I'll cast my vote on Proposal 2 because it makes more sense to show his entire head.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Proposal 2 - both are good, but I like that 2 shows his entire head, including the headpiece
 * 3) proposal 2 works best.--
 * 4) Only proposal 2 is worth considering.  11:19, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) For the reasons above
 * 6) Proposal 2. It shows a lot more of Senbonzakura's features. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Sode no Shirayuki (Zanpakutō spirit)
Sode no Shirayuki's current profile image is...ech. She's off-center, it has that weird 232 sort-of proper lighting, and there's a lot of her upper torso in the image that doesn't need to be there. Hence, my proposal: she's centered, the lighting is better, and her head is the focus of the image. Plus, that quality.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) More direct in the way she's facing
 * 3) New proposal works best.--
 * 4) Proposal is a better picture, dont really need say anything more  11:19, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) For the reasons above
 * 6) I probably should have done this one myself. Anyway, the proposal is excellent, and it's got my vote. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Tobiume (Zanpakutō spirit)
Tobiume's current profile image shows her at nighttime, facing her body away from the camera, and with those duller colors and such. We can do better. My proposal shows her in proper lighting, facing the camera, and with bettererest colors.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Overall better
 * 3) New proposal works best.--
 * 4) Improvement  11:19, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) For the reasons above
 * 6) Much better. I was getting tired of the night shot. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Kōga Kuchiki
Kōga's current profile image is...lacking, to say the least. It is somewhat zoomed out, has him standing at a slight angle, and leaves him looking like an idiot with his mouth hanging open like that. My proposal is a more detailed close-up of his face, showing his eyes and his hair while leaving his mouth closed and showing his shoulders and neck. Can't fix that gross skin, but oh well.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) In the original the broken mouth cover always looked like decaying skin to me. This fixes that
 * 3) New proposal works best.--
 * 4) Not sure why the body angle is mentioned when it is the same in the proposal, but the rest is valid and better, though it would be even better if the top of his head was not cut off.  11:19, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) For the reasons above
 * 6) This guy is ugly, no matter what you do. I'm voting for the change. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Narunosuke
Narunosuke's current profile image breaks a lot of rules. It's at night, has him facing about 40 degrees away from the camera, and shows him after he transformed into a Tōjū. Meanwhile, my proposal has him facing the camera during the day, and shows him how he appears throughout most of the episode - in bandages. I know we don't like it when characters have wounds in their profile images, but in this case he's literally got bandages on for most of his appearance, so...--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) It's better than the current. The bandages are kinda meh, but still
 * 3) New proposal works best.--
 * 4) There is less wrong with this proposal than there is with the current picture, so support.  11:19, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) For the reasons above
 * 6) As much as I want something better, I know Xil well enough to know this is the best the anime has to offer, so I'm voting for it. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Kirikaze
While Kirikaze's current profile image does meet the requirements of high quality, good lighting, etc., there's one problem: it's been scrunched horizontally. As such, I believe my proposal is more fitting, as it is not scrunched, focuses more on his head, and actually shows him more head-on than his current profile image does.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Pretty clear reasoning (dat face)
 * 3) New proposal works best.--
 * 4) For the reasons above
 * 5) Because reasons. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Hollow Tōjū
As mentioned far above, we don't generally show a character's full body in their profile image, so I believe the Hollow Tōjū is due for a change. While his current profile image has his full body, doesn't focus on his head, and has him facing slightly away from the camera, my proposal shows him head-on and focuses more on his head and shoulders.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Do I even need to explain this one?
 * 3) New proposal works best.--
 * 4) Better  11:19, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) For the reasons above
 * 6) Better shot. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  18:15, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Hammer Tōjū
See above because I don't feel like typing the same thing for a third time. Anyways, while the Hammer Tōjū's current image has his full body, doesn't focus on his head, is off-center, etc., my proposal has his head as the focus, is zoomed in, and is centered.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Same reasoning as Hollow Toju
 * 3) New proposal works best.--
 * 4) Better  11:19, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) For the reasons above
 * 6) Much better than the current. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Bearded Tōjū
See above again. While the Bearded Tōjū's current profile image is a zoomed-out shot of him and his upper body, my proposal is a shot focusing on his face, showing it in more detail while leaving most of the beard and hair.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Again, same as Hollow and Bearded
 * 3) New proposal works best.--
 * 4) Better pic to use.  11:19, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) For the reasons above
 * 6) Because reasons. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  18:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Byakuya Kuchiki
Though Byakuya's current profile image is pretty detailed and a manga shot, it's a very zoomed-in shot of his face from an angle, and doesn't show a lot of his head. My proposal displays almost all of his head, is from the front, still shows his scarf, and has good lighting, so I think it's a much better fit.--Xilinoc (talk) 18:55, April 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 18:55, April 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * Not sure I like the lighting of this image as it makes it more difficult to see the color of his eyes, plus he looks like he's glowing a bit!!


 * 1) Proposal 2 - more centered in the middle, more like a profile image and not as close up and glaring!!

I think I'm going to pass on both of these. Even though the current picture does not technically meet the guidelines, the color contrast and saturation are a great deal better. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  23:27, April 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * I have to agree with Mohrpheus here, the current is not perfect (no doubt about that), but is better suited than the proposals. 10:49, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

Gin Ichimaru
Gin's current profile picture does not show his face from the front. My proposals are all frontal shots with good lighting. 05:00, May 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Proposal 1  05:00, May 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Please be careful as you uploaded an image over one that already existed!! I fixed it!! Neither of these images improves the quality of the image!!
 * 2) No to options 2 and 3. 4 has lighting issues, his face looks brighter than it should be due to spotlight effect. 1 is best of the new proposals, but it can stay as it is.  10:34, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

Uploaded a newer version higher quality courtesy of Xilly!!


 * 1) I have been ninja'd by Sun and graciously accept my defeat. Anyway, I'm voting for Option 4 because it shows Gin from a frontal view and in good lighting, whereas the current image is just...strange.--Xilinoc (talk) 05:42, May 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Option 4 because of direct camera angle and less zoom

Jūshirō Ukitake
Its a very odd expression on Ukitake's face, for a character that's usually very kind to people he looks very aggressive here!!


 * 1) Option 1 works for me.--Xilinoc (talk) 04:59, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) That works.  10:51, May 15, 2014 (UTC)

Ulquiorra
So the proposed one has a more direct shot of Ulquiorra's face than what we currently have.


 * 1)  As the proposer.


 * 1) I don't mind a more direct shot, but Ulquiorra's Hollow hole location was moved in appearances after the events of the proposed shot. Personally, I think we should go for a shot either of that nature, or a shot of him with his jacket closed, if we are to go for a new shot of him. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  17:47, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

I added another proposal that should work as a replacement.--Xilinoc (talk) 17:51, June 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Proposal 2 - this one works better than both the others here.
 * 2) Proposal 2 - Darnit Xil, I wanted to add the replacement.
 * 3)  Proposal 2 - you dun been ninja'd--Xilinoc (talk) 18:52, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Proposal 2 - Not particularly fond of how the black background bleeds into his collar and his hair's shadows.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  22:50, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) Option 1 is out for the Hollow hole location as Arrancar said, and I agree with Mohrpheus on opt 2. While it is not perfect it is not a terrible pic either and a lot of time was put in to finding one of that quality in the first place, many many pics were ruled out in favour of the current one and the guy hasn't appeared since.  10:23, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) Looking at it again, Mohrp and Yyp are right. What we've got works much better.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:22, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Kenpachi Zaraki vs. Nnoitra Gilga
This has been bothering me for some time now. The current main image we have for this fight is weird: it's a close-up on both combatants, the clash isn't really visible, and Kenpachi's hair is strangely off-model, likely because this was from a filler scene. On the other hand, the proposal shows much more of both combatants and their weapons, better portrays the clash, and is a scene from the manga itself.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:22, June 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:22, June 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) "vote for of please yes" - Xil, verbatim.
 * 3) No more tentacle hair. Sigh.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  22:01, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) As per above.

Franceska Mila Rose
Right since I'm doing other images around this arc, I thought I would bring this up!! Mila Rose's profile image was never ever voted upon and if it was, it was lost somewhere!! Also the image that was used was originally meant to be from Episode 166 and thus the description states this!! However it was uploaded with so many different versions as it was subject to edit warring!! Personally, I strongly dislike the current one as not only does it have a whole other person in the background, it looks nothing like the best possible picture we could get for her and shes looking to the side and standing to the side!! I haven't decided which of the options I like but they are just some to start with!!


 * 1) Option 1: It is the best of the three proposed, with no weird camera angling.
 * 2) Option 1 is the best for me. 1 and 3 are both fine, but I think the expression of 1 wins out. Definite improvement over the current pic.  23:32, June 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) I snooze, I lose. I meant to bring this one up, but things have been crazy for me lately. Anyway, I'm voting Option 1. Best one here, and the only potential shot on this that I didn't find anyway (Sun, you're good at this). <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  01:06, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Option 1 works for me.--Xilinoc (talk) 18:40, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Loly Aivirrne
Any thoughts on these images, I think they're all a massive improvement!!


 * 1) Option 2 looks the best to me.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:58, August 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Option 2 - Ditto. Option 1 features a less characteristic expression and isn't centered, and Option 3 is all up close and awkward.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  02:03, August 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Gonna go with Option 1, here. It has a more natural/stoic expression, where 2 is just a tad less so.
 * 4) Option 1 is most suited in my opinion. 3 has the shading under her eyes which is not great in 2, there is less of the white at the top of her mask fragment visible, which sort of makes it almost blend in with her hair. It's subtle, but for that reason Op1 seems best to me. It can be further cropped to centre it if need be. Good work finding better pics for.  09:47, August 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) Option 1 - Changing this as has been a week, my personal preference was Option 1 so changing it!!

Dondochakka Birstanne
Dondochakka's current profile image is set at night, so some of the colors are distorted or muted. In addition, his mask is unusually wide, and he's sorta off to the side. I think we can do better, so the proposal has him centered, is set during the day, has better colors, and is of a higher quality.--Xilinoc (talk) 06:38, August 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 06:38, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) - Higher quality image!!
 * 3) Current pic is below par but did as a placeholder. This is much better.  11:36, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) This works much better

Toshimori Umesada
Really there has to be something better than the image we are currently using for this character!! Just some I've gotten from the brief scene we have with him!! My issue with the character is that the close-ups we have he has various expressions on his face and so it's mainly the best o a bad bunch!! Or we could go with a distance shot and lose the detail of his wart!! Thoughts here??


 * 1) Option 2: The whatever it is (Uryu's head?) in the bottom corner is a minor annoyance but very easily overlooked. I think Op2 is the best there.  13:35, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Option 2 works for me as well.--Xilinoc (talk) 15:41, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) This guy never doesn't have a weird expression on his face, it seems. But Option 2 is the closest to a normal one.

Uryū Ishida
Been meaning to get around to this one for a while now, but anyway, Uryū's current pre-timeskip profile has him standing outside at night with his body slightly turned and a scowl on his face. I think we can do better, so my proposal has him indoors during the "day" (Aizen and his silly sky-painting), completely facing the camera, and with a better expression on his face, as well as slightly brighter colors due to the daylight.--Xilinoc (talk) 04:36, August 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 04:36, August 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) When looking at the thumbnail, his gaze seems to be a bit downward pointing in the proposal, but it's fine full size.
 * 3) Much better I agree!!
 * 4) The current one looks all awkward and thin and strangely colored. Proposal is much, much better.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  01:24, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

Ichigo Kurosaki vs. Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez: Round Two
Alright, so the current main image for this fight has Ichigo and Grimmjow standing around with the former looking like he's ready for tea-time and the latter remembering that he left the water running back in Las Noches. We can most certainly do better, so my proposal has them actually clashing with those newfangled Zanpakutō things and shows them in better detail.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:08, August 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:08, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) The current one is just awkward.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  02:29, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) They're actually fighting in this one

Baraggan Louisenbairn
Baraggan's current image has some strangely muted colors, and seems unnecessarily wide height-wise in scope. My proposal has better colors (I couldn't find the episode that the original was even in) and is more focused on Baraggan's face, as well as being of higher quality.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:08, August 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:08, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Indeed, the colors and focus are better.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  02:29, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Much better, yah.
 * 4) An improvement.  22:31, August 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) Supporting the change. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  00:59, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) Yes, I agree. -- 04:16, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Findorr Calius
Relatively minor issues with the current image, since you can see his face and it's of high quality, but my proposal has him facing completely forward and doesn't have that weird, slightly-tilted head thing going on.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:02, August 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:02, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Better angle, and facing directly forward. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109  <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  01:07, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Not that we can really make Findorr look good.....
 * 4) Marginally better.  10:14, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) Better follows the policies.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  11:49, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Nianzol Weizol
Alright, 598's managed to provide us with a good alternative to Nianzol's current profile image, which has that text in the way and is a bit too zoomed in for my liking. I'm aware that the proposal doesn't have as much detail on his face, but I'd say that the whole lack-of-text thing and better focus more than makes up for that.--Xilinoc (talk) 23:33, September 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 23:33, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) I agree with thith thange
 * 3) Nothing even needs to be said on this one.  10:14, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Shame we can't just photoshop images, because I prefer the original. I do not believe that is an option though, so...  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  11:49, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Marechiyo Ōmaeda vs. Nirgge Parduoc
Currently, the main image for this genre-defining battle of the ages consists of Marechiyo and Nirgge's faces with strange expressions on them and their swords crossing. That's literally it. As such, my proposal shows their clash with better. zoomed-out focus and more of their bodies in view.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:08, August 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:08, August 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) A little better.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  11:49, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) A little better.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  11:49, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Yumichika Ayasegawa vs. Charlotte Chuhlhourne
The current main image for this battle is a bit...hard on the eyes. There's a bunch of glowy crap, and the two main combatants are a bit hard to make out; additionally, there isn't even any fighting going on, just a super-duper dramatic release. As such, I've scrounged up four alternatives, each with their own strengths and flaws, as potential replacements.--Xilinoc (talk) 03:58, August 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Of the four, Option 2 is my personal preference; there aren't any weird afterimages, you can see both combatants clearly without fuzziness, they're actually fighting, and their facial expressions...well, the beginning of the fight is one of the silliest things in the series, so...--Xilinoc (talk) 03:58, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) I get that this fight was maybe 49% comic relief, but Option 2 is a bit too ridiculous. I vote for Option 1.
 * 3) Option 1 -- Pretty much what Schiffy said.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  11:49, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Tōshirō Hitsugaya vs. Shawlong Koufang
I'm not a fan of how the current image for this fight randomly has Rangiku in the background despite her not participating in it and how Hitsugaya and Shawlong are kinda off to the side, so I found a suitable replacement that focuses on them and is of higher quality, both in terms of the px and in the art of the scene itself.--Xilinoc (talk) 04:56, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 04:56, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Better quality, and no unnecessary Rangiku.
 * 3) Same pose, but strictly better.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  11:49, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Ichigo Kurosaki & Uryū Ishida vs. Ulquiorra Cifer: Final Fight
I'm not a huge fan of the current image for this fight, since it's primarily Ichigo and Ulquiorra moving toward each other instead of actually fighting. Additionally, most of the battle involves them in powered up forms, e.g. Segunda Etapa and White 2.0 Ichigo's fully Hollowfied form, so I decided that an image showing them clashing while in their fully powered-up forms would be appropriate for this battle. However, since the only decent frame of them doing so is part of a filler extension (goshdarnittoheck Pierrot), I've also included a second proposal uploaded by Sun many moons ago that shows them clashing in their base forms and which is nice and focused, although I personally prefer my proposal because it differentiates this battle from Ichigo Kurosaki vs. Ulquiorra Cifer.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:56, September 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As uploader and proposer, I support Proposal 1 becoming the new main image for this fight article.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:56, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Proposal 1 - pretty much what Xil said about 2 being too similar to the earlier fight.
 * 3) Proposal 1 - I don't think that it matters that it's a filler shot too much.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  11:49, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Lille Barro
No text, zoomed out more to show his whole head, no hood obscuring the hat, etc. Very little needs to be said about why I'm proposing this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 23:52, October 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 23:52, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) I like the proposal alot more than the current profile image. Mr.Rig and Zig 23:58, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) For obvious reasons.

Giselle Gewelle
better angle of her looking forward, more of her head in the pic, and less awkward with gaping mouth. also no annoying speech bubble.--Seigheil (talk) 16:20, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) this is not a good profile picture of her, it is a picture of her going nuts in th heat of battle!!
 * 2) One of the important criteria of a good profile picture is a more or less neutral facial expression.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  21:47, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) The facial expression looks very forced/unnatural, and the angle at which it is drawn is also putting me off.
 * 4) There's probably a better alternative in one of the chapters she's appeared in. This is not it, for the reasons listed above.--Xilinoc (talk) 23:08, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Ichigo Kurosaki vs. Sode no Shirayuki
The current main image for this battle isn't very good. It's focused primarily on their heads and faces, and doesn't actually show any combat, or even any other parts of their bodies. As such, my proposal has Ichigo actually attacking Sode no Shirayuki in such a way that you can see both combatants.--Xilinoc (talk) 16:06, October 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 16:06, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Yeah it's better than the current one.
 * 3) Neither are perfect, but the proposal is better than the current one. I'd prefer it if there was one that showed both of them clearly, but I'm sure you'd have posted that if you came across it in your picture hunting.  19:37, October 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) For reasons already stated.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  21:47, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Rukia Kuchiki vs. Sode no Shirayuki
Currently, the main image for this battle consists of Rukia and Sode no Shirayuki...staring at each other. That's really about it. Because of this, I've posted an alternative that shows them actually fighting and stuff, as well as more of their bodies. It helps that it has a nice sense of flow to it.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:20, October 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:20, October 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) I actually prefer the current one as they look like adversaries there facing off!!
 * 2) I see no major reason to change it. Its fine as is. A face off rather than clash is okay. The important thing is that it shows the characters involved clearly. Doesn't matter if they're not clashing blades in the picture. Lots of Bleach fights full of pauses to chat anyway.  19:37, October 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Face offs are fine, and stuff.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  21:47, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Askin Nakk Le Vaar
I think the picture from chapter 599 would fit better than this current one, in which he doesn't have his pronounced cheekbones and the shape/proportions of his face and hair seems a little off. Granted the proposed picture it not a full shot of his entire head but still i think its better, plus pages like Driscoll's or Gremmy's don't have the full shots of their heads, but mostly the face, yet those fit well. --Cross of Scaffold (talk) 19:00, October 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) As a proposer, I support this change.--Cross of Scaffold (talk) 19:00, October 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Driscoll has a non-full shot of his head because that's the only close-up, frontal shot we have of him in the manga, and Gremmy's just another story entirely, but that's beside the point. Askin's current image is fine. It's from the front, it shows basically all of his head (including his hair), and he's looking at the camera. The proposal has the top of his head cut off and shows him from an angle. I honestly don't understand why so many people oppose using that as his main image, but I certainly oppose this change because the proposal simply doesn't meet our guidelines as well as the current one does.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:21, October 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Not to say that the current is great, but it is superior to the proposal, so I oppose this change. Keeping my fingers crossed for a better pic soon though.  19:37, October 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) He look ridiculous either way, his current profile picture just looks less ridiculous. Mr.Rig and Zig 19:41, October 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) Not that it particularly matters, but I am going to be contrary here. The proposal has him facing forward, more so than the current image, in which he is looking upward. Both images are from different angles, but it is considerably more noticeable in the current one. I think it is also worth noting that the proposal is considerably more detailed, as the current image does a rather poor job of depicting his facial structure, particularly his distinct lips, chin, and cheekbones. There is not much to see of his hair anyway, and at the very least, the proposal features his hairstyle's most distinct feature.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  21:47, October 21, 2014 (UTC)