Bleach Wiki:Chat/July 16, 2012

 [11:49]  Fight Summaries and other Project articles would be of medium priority, that way they get grammar checked when they are completed in their respective project [11:50]  the bount, filler arc stuff, movies, most Arrancar pages, Aizen, Tosen &amp; Gin, Kaien, deceased characters basically would be low, [11:50]  Sounds like a logical system to me so far. I can see how that world work. [11:52]  Ill play around with it tomorrow. The main thing I have always found is people get confused by exactly what to do in order to claim an article and who can join, so I want to make those clear [11:53]  yea a layout of the procedure, kind of how i updated the other pages [11:53]  Yeah, thats what I am aiming for [11:54]  Let me know if I can help somehow [11:56]  k [11:57]  My second in command over there disappeared a long time ago. Never found out what happened with him [12:01]  Wow [12:02]  Just disappeared? [12:03]  He said he was leaving for a trip for about 2 months. Its been 2 years [12:03]  i'm still making funny faces [12:03]  ....Damn [12:03]  Well I don't suppose his plane or whatever method of travel he used has been delayed for that long... [12:03] <Godisme> He showed up one day about a year ago and said he was back. Never showed up again [12:04] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Yikes [12:04] <LawlietLuv...> wow [12:05] <Godisme> Somewhat ironically, his username was GinIchimaru [12:05] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> XD [12:06] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Disappeared without warning, huh? [12:06] <Godisme> Basically [12:07] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> When I decide to disappear someday, I'm gonna make sure people know about it [12:07] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Like I did with DB, kind of [12:08] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I probably won't for a long time though [12:11] <RenjiLuv2> Hay [12:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> He's gone Renj :P [12:11] <RenjiLuv2> I saw that [12:11] <RenjiLuv2> :P [12:11] <Godisme> Im probably going to ban that guy soon [12:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hey [12:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Thanks for that God [12:11] <Godisme> If he pulls all that again, he is gone for a while [12:12] <RenjiLuv2> what happened? [12:12] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I don't honestly believe it when he said he wasn't trying to offend you. [12:12] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> If he didn't want to offend, he could have said it several much better ways. [12:12] <LawlietLuv...> where did you come from [12:12] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I think it was intended to be a cutting comment. [12:12] <LawlietLuv...> uh [12:13] <RenjiLuv2> Hey Savannah [12:13] <LawlietLuv...> uh [12:13] <RenjiLuv2> I finished my thingy [12:13] <LawlietLuv...> uh [12:13] <LawlietLuv...> where did you come from? [12:13] <RenjiLuv2> Me? [12:13] <LawlietLuv...> yeah [12:14] <RenjiLuv2> Idk [12:14] <LawlietLuv...> you just popped up [12:14] <RenjiLuv2> I've been on here for like 2 minuets. [12:14] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> :P [12:14] <LawlietLuv...> yeah but it doesn't say your on [12:14] <RenjiLuv2> I said hey [12:15] <LawlietLuv...> no [12:15] <LawlietLuv...> like on the side bar [12:15] <RenjiLuv2> Your right [12:15] <RenjiLuv2> I said Hay [12:15] <LawlietLuv...> ugh [12:15] <LawlietLuv...> i still don't love you [12:15] <RenjiLuv2> What is wrong with you...? [12:16] <LawlietLuv...> hey you want to play Ninja at Kmart [12:16] <RenjiLuv2> No [12:16] <LawlietLuv...> okay [12:17] <LawlietLuv...> i played it today when i went to go get my brace [12:17] <LawlietLuv...> it was fun [12:17] <RenjiLuv2> oh [12:17] <RenjiLuv2> sounds fun [12:17] <LawlietLuv...> no one saw me! [12:17] <RenjiLuv2> Aww [12:17] <LawlietLuv...> BWA ha ha ha ha [12:17] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I found out something fun [12:18] <RenjiLuv2> what? [12:18] <LawlietLuv...> what? [12:18] <LawlietLuv...> jinx [12:18] <RenjiLuv2> Ninja'd [12:18] <LawlietLuv...> black out [12:18] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Colgatecity said he might be going back to DB [12:18] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Now that I've left [12:18] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> XD [12:18] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Because I was the only person who wouldn't put up with his crap, that's why [12:18] <LawlietLuv...> :) [12:18] <Godisme> Poor Toothepaste [12:18] <RenjiLuv2> They're really helpless with you huh? [12:19] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Without me, pretty much [12:19] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Say [12:19] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> There was a thread before I left too [12:19] <Godisme> One of the joys of being here: Toothpaste is permabanned here [12:19] <RenjiLuv2> Cool? [12:19] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Where some person I didn't know was trying to say I was harassing these kids. Saying they told her that I was following them around wikia and trying to ruin their rep. [12:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I bet you anything one of those two kids was Colgate XD [12:20] <LawlietLuv...> XDD [12:20] <RenjiLuv2> XD [12:20] <Mohrpheus> I sometimes forget that we're talking about children here. [12:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> All I did was tell the other chatmoderators at DB the crap he was talking about them behind their backs [12:20] <Godisme> He tried coming here before, Arrancar banned him infinitely though [12:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Haha nice! [12:20] <Glass Heart> Hi blossom. [12:20] <LawlietLuv...> hey [12:20] <Godisme> Bye bye toothpaste [12:20] <RenjiLuv2> Hey blossom. [12:20] <Blossomofdeath> Hi everyone. [12:21] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> None of the other chatmoderators at DB trust Colgate now XD [12:21] <Godisme> He still holds a grudge against me for banning him from Community Central chat once [12:21] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I bet, lol [12:21] <LawlietLuv...> Renji play Ninja with me! [12:21] <RenjiLuv2> How?! [12:21] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> He tried to come in chat before and say "sorry" for his actions [12:21] <LawlietLuv...> go to Kmart [12:21] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Then he tried to make me apologize [12:21] <Blossomofdeath> Renji has a point. [12:22] <RenjiLuv2> I dont wanna go to Kmart [12:22] <LawlietLuv...> no not that Ninja another Ninja thats way better than the other one [12:22] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I told him there was no way I was apologizing to him, since all I had done was inform other chatmoderators that he was talking crap about them [12:22] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Then he had a fit and left [12:22] <RenjiLuv2> I dont want to go to Kmart! [12:23] <LawlietLuv...> go to Save Mart then [12:23] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Even 10X figured out what Colgate was trying to do. That's how obvious it was. [12:23] <RenjiLuv2> No! Thats worse! [12:23] <LawlietLuv...> ugh its really fun just go [12:23] <RenjiLuv2> Dude I cant [12:24] <LawlietLuv...> is not that chop your arms off crap [12:24] <LawlietLuv...> oh [12:24] <RenjiLuv2> My mom and I went yesterday. We dont need anything [12:24] <LawlietLuv...> no just go to go [12:24] <RenjiLuv2> Unless my sister needs something [12:24] <LawlietLuv...> we're not buying any thing [12:24] <RenjiLuv2> Then why would you be there?!?! [12:25] <LawlietLuv...> we're going to play till they kick us out [12:25] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> You know what [12:25] <LawlietLuv...> know what [12:25] <RenjiLuv2> You make no sense whatsoever Bordski &gt;_&gt; [12:25] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I bet Colgate is behind that thread about the kid being "harassed by chatmods and admins" [12:25] <LawlietLuv...> oh [12:25] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> That's exactly what he said we were doing once [12:25] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> And the other one's probably his butt buddy Elcidman [12:25] <LawlietLuv...> no renji i do [12:25] <LawlietLuv...> XD nice [12:25] <RenjiLuv2> XD [12:25] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Who holds a grudge against me because I kept banning him for racism [12:26] <Salubri> Then he definitely isnt welcomed here [12:26] <LawlietLuv...> my brother is racist its sad really [12:26] <RenjiLuv2> How was he being racist? [12:26] <Salubri> law what are you doing here [12:26] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Kept saying the n-word [12:26] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Over and over again [12:26] <LawlietLuv...> oh wow jerk [12:26] <RenjiLuv2> Oh. Thats so not cool [12:26] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I gave him some pretty long chat bans for it XD [12:26] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> The funny thing is [12:26] <LawlietLuv...> XD [12:27] <RenjiLuv2> XD [12:27] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> The last time I banned him, everyone in chat was cheering for me afterwards [12:27] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Not many people like him [12:27] <RenjiLuv2> Well good. [12:27] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> He likes instigating fights [12:27] <LawlietLuv...> XDD nice [12:27] <LawlietLuv...> wow [12:27] <RenjiLuv2> XD [12:27] <Salubri> Thought we already had this conversation [12:27] <LawlietLuv...> okay renji i'll explain the game to you when you get to Save Mart [12:27] <LawlietLuv...> okay [12:28] <RenjiLuv2> I cant go!!! [12:28] <RenjiLuv2> Ugh! [12:28] <RenjiLuv2> She is so annoying sometimes!! [12:28] <RenjiLuv2> Sal! What the heck? [12:28] <Salubri> More to the point she was ignoring me and i already had this conversation with her, she knows the edit rule [12:28] <Salubri> she doeesnt have them [12:29] <RenjiLuv2> But Sun helped her get them [12:29] <Salubri> no she didnt [12:29] <Salubri> she has to have 10 main space edits she has 2 [12:29] <RenjiLuv2> She did. I was on there when she was helping her [12:29] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> They have to be article edits [12:29] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Correct? [12:29] <Salubri> yes [12:30] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> That explains it [12:30] <Salubri> Main space edits are article edits [12:30] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Oooh I need some more [12:30] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I have 88 mainspace [12:30] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Gotta get a hundred [12:31] <Salubri> you not only have to have at least 10 to enter chat but you have to be a continuous contributer of edits on the site to have the privilege of chatting [12:31] <RenjiLuv2> I swear Sun helped her! I was on there when she did! [12:31] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Oooh [12:31] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Cool :3 [12:31] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> My next goal: 200 [12:31] <Salubri> I just checked [12:32] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I want to get 1000 someday [12:32] <RenjiLuv2> Your goals are high [12:32] <Salubri> matter fact you can to http://bleach.wikia.com/index.php?limit=100&amp;tagfilter=&amp;title=Special%3AContributions&amp;contribs=user&amp;target=LawlietLuv...&amp;namespace=0&amp;year=&amp;month=-1 [12:32] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Well of course [12:32] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Gotta set the bar for myself somewhere [12:32] <Salubri> 2 edits total [12:33] <RenjiLuv2> That makes no sense! Sun helped her! [12:33] <RenjiLuv2> This is confusing me so much. [12:33] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> They weren't article edits then, one can assume [12:34] <Salubri> Ok ill make it clear Sun can no more help your edits then i can help you wash your car right now. Edits are done by singular people [12:34] <Salubri> at most she can tell you how and check it but what you edit is entirely on you. [12:35] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> It's not too hard to find mainspace edits you know [12:35] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> The random page button helps a lot with that [12:35] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> That's how I begin searching for them [12:35] <RenjiLuv2> Not to sound bitter but Did I ask you? [12:36] <Salubri> So to make it simple Im not sure what you were led to believe but regardless, if im telling you that its not right as admin thats what i mean. If im saying she doesnt have the edits, take that as the serious statement that it was meant to be [12:36] <RenjiLuv2> Kay. I'm still mad but I except it. [12:37] <RenjiLuv2> I'm bitter now... &gt;:| [12:38] <Salubri> writing on blogs, forums, talk pages, user pages, or uploading pics does not constitute editing the main space (articles). You have the edits to be here, she doesnt not even close [12:39] <RenjiLuv2> I think that was it. Sun was getting pictures or something [12:39] <RenjiLuv2> and I get it. She doesn't have the edits to be on here. And sorry if I come across as rude for a little while [12:39] <Salubri> helping you learn to edit is one thing, but your confused if you think she can get you the edits that something you have to achieve on your own [12:40] <Salubri> so you may have been misinformed [12:41] <RenjiLuv2> I'm sorry. I'm leaving. Not trying to be mean on here I just need to leave [12:41] <RenjiLuv2> Bye [12:42] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Woohoo [12:43] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I got some more done :D [12:44] <Salubri> it can be rewarding [12:45] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I like helping. And since this wiki is my home wiki now, I'm going to do everything I can to help it out. [12:46] <Salubri> oh it needs it [12:47] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Besides, fixing grammar is fun for me XD [12:47] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I don't know why, it just is [12:48] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I dunno, I've liked doing it since I was in elementary school [12:49] <Salubri> weird lol [12:49] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I know [12:49] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Some kid in my class spelled water wrong once [12:50] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I wanted to grab his paper and correct it on the spot [12:50] <Salubri> how do you spell water wrong [12:50] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> No idea [12:50] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Sad thing about it too was that this happened in sixth grade [12:50] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> So he was at least 10 or 11 years old [12:50] <Salubri> lol [12:51] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Grammar and spelling and anything to do with English really has always been my strong point [12:51] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I even learned how to talk about three months earlier than the usual infant [12:51] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> But math... [12:51] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> That's my very weak point [12:52] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Numbers don't translate well in my head [12:52] <Salubri> me either [12:52] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> They have to put me in the basic math classes at school ^-^' [12:53] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> English is where I kind of make up for it though. When I got tested in 8th grade they found out I had the English level of a college student. [12:54] <Salubri> nice [12:54] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> As for a future career.... [12:55] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> The one I'm interested has to do with Science I guess [12:55] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm really interested in space [12:55] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I was considering maybe working for NASA and becoming an astronaut or something [12:56] <Salubri> if there still is a NASA they are really underfunded [12:56] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> True [12:57] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> My very favorite part of space to study would either be Saturn or stars [12:57] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Saturn's my favorite planet [12:58] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I even have a model of it hanging in my room [12:58] <Salubri> lol [12:58] <Glass Heart> Just a Saturn model? [12:59] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Well [12:59] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm probably going to sound pretty lame for this, but the basics of the solar system as well [12:59] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Y'know the Sun, Earth, Mars [12:59] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> All of them [12:59] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Saturn I just put purposefully close to where I sleep [01:00] <Glass Heart> I figured it was the whole System; having just one planet would be a bit unusual. [01:00] <Glass Heart> Alright then. [01:00] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Sounds lame, right? [01:00] <Glass Heart> Not really. [01:00] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> :) [01:01] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I can't wait for 2017 [01:01] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Just because that's when the trip to my grandma's house in Oregon is. We're going out there away from the city. [01:01] <Godisme> I can, Ill be old in 2017 [01:02] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> XD [01:02] <Salubri> thats a long ways away to plan a trip [01:02] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm excited because then I get to use my telescope and see Saturn at opposition. [01:02] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> My parents are very supportive of my interest in space. [01:03] <Mohrpheus> The world ends in a few months. Or so I'm told. [01:04] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> :P [01:05] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Maybe I will become an astronaut [01:05] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I think it would be kind of cool to see some of the things out there for myself [01:05] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> And I guess it would satisfy my needs for adventure [01:06] <Mohrpheus> I could never do it. I like gravity too much. [01:06] <Godisme> lol [01:06] <RenjiLuv2> hi [01:06] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> XD [01:06] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Well on the bright side, I don't think I can manage to trip in space [01:06] <Godisme> But Mohrph, don't you want to experience weightlessness? [01:06] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Sometimes I manage to trip over nothing at all [01:06] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Completely flat surface [01:07] <Godisme> I trip all the time, my feet are too small [01:07] <Mohrpheus> Pop culture over the past few years that space is evil, so I'm fine with my weight thanks. lol [01:07] <Mohrpheus> has told me* [01:07] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> That's how I never cried when I fell and skinned my knees even at age five. [01:07] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Too used to it. [01:07] <Godisme> Im 6 feet tall but only have size 8 1/2 feeft [01:08] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> 7 for me and I'm....5'4 and a half [01:08] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm small entirely &gt;.&lt; [01:08] <Mohrpheus> Oh wow lol. [01:08] <RenjiLuv2> I'm 5'9" with size 10 shoes [01:08] <Godisme> Mohrph isn't the shortest :) [01:08] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> D: [01:08] <Mohrpheus> He has time more time to grow than i do lol. [01:09] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Do you know what it's going to be like, being the smallest guy on the Varsity football team? [01:09] <Mohrpheus> Ew, this is Legacy. I don't need to see an Esper Stoneblade deck in action. -_-;;; [01:09] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm either going to stick out like a sore thumb or be so small that no one can see me in a crowd of taller people. [01:09] <LawlietLuv...> i'm sorry you were right Sal [01:10] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I hope a really big guy doesn't land on me this year. [01:10] <Godisme> Mohrph, what you playing? [01:11] <Mohrpheus> Nothing right now, I was just watching a tourney match off the MtG site lol. [01:11] <RenjiLuv2> I'm back [01:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> No [01:12] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I just hope I grow more. [01:12] <Mohrpheus> I could never get near one of those. I don't have the money to be shelling out for 4 Geists of Saint Traft. Since every deck seems to have those. -_- [01:12] <RenjiLuv2> You hate it when you grow too much &gt;_&gt; [01:12] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm tired of being sixteen years old and still having waiters give me the coloring book at restaurants. [01:12] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I am two years from being a legal adult. [01:12] <Godisme> Better than last year where every deck had Jace the Mind Sculptor [01:12] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I do not need a coloring book. [01:12] <LawlietLuv...> i know right i hate that [01:13] <RenjiLuv2> I haven't had that problem before.... [01:13] <Mohrpheus> True enough. That thing was stupid OP [01:13] <Godisme> Eh, I get carded whenever I go to an R rated movie [01:13] <Mohrpheus> My beard is my card~ [01:13] <Godisme> I can go to a bar and buy drinks but people card me at a movie [01:13] <Mohrpheus> XD [01:13] <LawlietLuv...> i'm probably the shortest one on here am i right? [01:13] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'd look weird with a beard. &gt;.&lt; [01:13] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> The only bright side about my height and appearance [01:14] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Is that one time I got a free bus ride out of it. [01:14] <Godisme> I've never let me beard grow out [01:14] <Godisme> The most I will get is a five o clock shadow [01:14] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I acted like a little lost child and I got a free ride. [01:14] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Ahaha [01:14] <RenjiLuv2> Wow! Thats smart [01:14] <RenjiLuv2> XD [01:14] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I have the right acting skills [01:15] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I can make myself cry and everything. [01:15] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Works like a charm [01:15] <RenjiLuv2> Nice. [01:15] <Godisme> When I go to get my haircut, they still charge me for a kids cut even though I have been over 18 for 4 years now [01:15] <Mohrpheus> I'm too lazy to shave. Plus both of my electric razors broke. And the manual ones scare the living crap out of me. [01:15] <Godisme> Mohrph, you ever used Lackeyccg? [01:16] <Mohrpheus> Not familiar with it [01:16] <RenjiLuv2> I wish I was short [01:16] <Mohrpheus> What is it? [01:16] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I used it to get out of being busted by the cops for trespassing once too. [01:16] <Godisme> Its a pretty nice program, it lets you play any collectible card game for free [01:16] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> The lost little kid act. [01:16] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hah [01:16] <LawlietLuv...> why people think your the baby of the family all the tim [01:16] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm not [01:16] <LawlietLuv...> time [01:16] <Godisme> All cards are free, the only problem is that the interface is not the best [01:16] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I just found out I'm the second oldest :P [01:16] <Mohrpheus> That what you play MtG on? [01:16] <Mohrpheus> [01:16] <LawlietLuv...> good for you [01:17] <Godisme> Yeah [01:17] <RenjiLuv2> I hate being tall sometimes. [01:17] <Godisme> So I can build ridiculous decks without paying for them [01:17] <LawlietLuv...> well how do you think i feel being 5'1 and 16 years old [01:17] <RenjiLuv2> 5'9" and 13 means that you hear every tall joke in the book. [01:17] <Godisme> I built a deck once with all three legendary eldrazi and cards to let me get them out on turn 3 [01:17] <Mohrpheus> Lol. Those are hilarious. [01:18] <Mohrpheus> Especially Emrakul [01:18] <Godisme> Yep [01:19] <Godisme> I had a guy play them against me once, lucky I had a rite of replication on me to get rid of it [01:19] <Mohrpheus> Nice [01:19] <LawlietLuv...> do you know how many cops pull me over because i look like a small child [01:19] <Mohrpheus> Hm. How long does it usually take for them to release the new sets on there? [01:19] <RenjiLuv2> haha XD [01:19] <LawlietLuv...> ... [01:19] <RenjiLuv2> I've driven a tractor before [01:20] <LawlietLuv...> ah [01:20] <RenjiLuv2> My grandpa is Fun [01:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> My great-uncle lets me do some crazy stuff [01:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> He taught me how to drive when I was 11 [01:21] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> And he's been letting me handle wild snakes and things since I was a little kid [01:21] <RenjiLuv2> My parents are so protective!! It bugs me so much!!! &gt;_&lt; [01:21] <RenjiLuv2> They wont let me do anything\ [01:21] <LawlietLuv...> the cops are like,"Your to young to be driving miss" [01:21] <LawlietLuv...> and i'm like,"I'm 16 ! ugh" [01:22] <RenjiLuv2> You have a license at 16? [01:22] <LawlietLuv...> yes [01:22] <RenjiLuv2> How? [01:22] <RenjiLuv2> I thought the legal age was 18 [01:22] <LawlietLuv...> my parents know people lets just say that okay [01:23] <RenjiLuv2> Okay then [01:23] <LawlietLuv...> okay [01:23] <RenjiLuv2> I wish I was at least a few inches shorter still.... [01:24] <Godisme> Im not sure Mohrph. I haven't stuck with it long enough to see a set release [01:24] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> You do have to be 18 years old to transport passengers under 20 over here [01:24] <Godisme> Wait, which states don't give licenses at 16? [01:24] <Mohrpheus> In the US I know 16 is perfectly legal... except if you're like me, you procrastinate too much and still don't have one lol. [01:24] <Mohrpheus> Oh yeah, it could be state specific. Didn't think about that [01:24] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Same Mohrpheus [01:24] <RenjiLuv2> California, depends where you live I think [01:24] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> XD [01:24] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm 16 but I don't have a license yet [01:25] <Godisme> I got my license like 6 months late [01:25] <RenjiLuv2> My sister got her's a little late [01:25] <Godisme> And up until 4 months ago, I had never had a ticket [01:25] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> You got a ticket? [01:25] <RenjiLuv2> Ooh. What cha do?? [01:25] <Godisme> 45 in a 25 :( [01:26] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> That sucks [01:26] <RenjiLuv2> Oh. [01:26] <Godisme> Eh, the cops didnt catch me when I was doing 104 in a 60 so at least I got away with that [01:26] <Mohrpheus> That's like 20 miles too fast! [01:26] <LawlietLuv...> ha [01:26] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> XD Wow God [01:26] <Mohrpheus> That's like 40 miles too fast! [01:26] <RenjiLuv2> That was way fast [01:26] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Way to go! [01:26] <Mohrpheus> 44* whatev' [01:26] <RenjiLuv2> Thats not very smart. [01:27] <Mohrpheus> I don't wanna drive now. [01:27] <Mohrpheus> Crazy people like you might be on the road. [01:27] <Godisme> If there isn't a car in front of me on the highway, I have trouble controlling my speed [01:27] <LawlietLuv...> my dad said never to get married to me right now [01:27] <RenjiLuv2> Why? [01:27] <LawlietLuv...> idk [01:27] <LawlietLuv...> he said it [01:27] <RenjiLuv2> Weird. [01:28] <LawlietLuv...> my parents are idiots [01:28] <RenjiLuv2> oh well thats not very nice. [01:28] <LawlietLuv...> hey i'm being honest [01:28] <RenjiLuv2> Mine are just way too over protective. [01:28] <RenjiLuv2> Like Waay over the line [01:28] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> My mom would kill me if she found out even half of the crazy things I've done [01:29] <LawlietLuv...> i told them that yesterday and only my mom got mad at me [01:29] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Like the illegal fireworks I had [01:29] <LawlietLuv...> ha nice [01:29] <RenjiLuv2> I would suggest to not tell your mom that stuff [01:29] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm not going to [01:29] <LawlietLuv...> eh [01:30] <RenjiLuv2> Ugh. My mom just told me to do chores. [01:30] <RenjiLuv2> brb [01:31] <LawlietLuv...> when i'm bored i sit on my roof and they don't like but i still do it anyways...its funny because they can hear me walking and they get so annoyed [01:31] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> She did see one of the crazier things I was doing once and nearly fainted [01:31] <LawlietLuv...> what did you do [01:31] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Was handling a scorpion [01:31] <LawlietLuv...> ha nice [01:31] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I had it crawling around on me [01:31] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> She flipped out [01:32] <LawlietLuv...> was it small or big [01:32] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Kinda big [01:32] <LawlietLuv...> ok then its not that poisonous [01:33] <LawlietLuv...> the small ones you have to worry about [01:33] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> It could have put me in the hospital if it stung me [01:33] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I can't help it, I love handling creatures that most people are afraid of [01:33] <LawlietLuv...> maybe...well yeah sure if you think of it that way [01:34] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> That's how I have a tarantula and a snake both [01:34] <RenjiLuv2> Back [01:34] <LawlietLuv...> yup [01:34] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> The tarantula's very friendly though [01:34] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> She likes it when I put her on my shoulder [01:34] <LawlietLuv...> aw thats cool [01:34] <LawlietLuv...> thats like Mega Tron [01:35] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I've let her crawl all over me [01:35] <RenjiLuv2> I want a turtle or a blue tonged skink. [01:35] <LawlietLuv...> cool [01:35] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Freaked my aunt out once because she was on my facew [01:35] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> *face [01:35] <LawlietLuv...> haha [01:35] <LawlietLuv...> nice [01:35] <RenjiLuv2> nice [01:36] <LawlietLuv...> i freak my cat out by hanging him upside down [01:36] <LawlietLuv...> not proud of that [01:36] <RenjiLuv2> my sister would faint is she even saw a snake bigger than 2 feet long in person [01:36] <RenjiLuv2> She cant even look at them on TV [01:36] <LawlietLuv...> snakes are fun i think [01:36] <RenjiLuv2> I like snakes [01:36] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Venz sure is getting big [01:36] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Venz is the snake I've got [01:36] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Boa constrictor [01:37] <LawlietLuv...> cool [01:37] <RenjiLuv2> Awesome [01:37] <RenjiLuv2> my sister thinks snakes are slimy. [01:37] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I like snakes [01:37] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Ahaha [01:37] <RenjiLuv2> She's wrong. they're just scaley. [01:37] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I can freak my brother out with a snail [01:37] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> He doesn't like them xD [01:37] <RenjiLuv2> Oh god. [01:38] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> What? [01:38] <LawlietLuv...> and spiders are cool i think there so interesting and snakes [01:38] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Got a problem with snails? [01:38] <LawlietLuv...> no [01:38] <RenjiLuv2> I freak my sister out with toads the size of small rocks [01:38] <RenjiLuv2> they live in my back yard [01:38] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I've seen frogs in the creek [01:38] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Yes, the creek I'm not supposed to be going in. [01:38] <RenjiLuv2> I have no problems with snails. [01:38] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> But I did anyways. [01:38] <RenjiLuv2> nice [01:39] <LawlietLuv...> once my brother stuffed a snail down a girls back crush it and it was so gross [01:39] <RenjiLuv2> Aww [01:39] <RenjiLuv2> Not nice [01:39] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Poor snail :( [01:39] <RenjiLuv2> Your brother is a racist jerk [01:39] <LawlietLuv...> yeah right i know [01:39] <RenjiLuv2> I forgot to do something!! brb [01:40] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> You know what I want to do someday? [01:40] <LawlietLuv...> what [01:40] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Swim around near some sharks [01:40] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Like how divers do [01:40] <LawlietLuv...> oh thats cool [01:40] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I love sharks [01:40] <LawlietLuv...> i want to ski dive [01:41] <LawlietLuv...> sky [01:41] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Ever since I saw Jaws when I was a little kid, I've been fascinated with sharks [01:41] <LawlietLuv...> ditto love that movie [01:41] <RenjiLuv2> Jaws is so fake [01:41] <RenjiLuv2> Fake [01:41] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> The first movie was good. Not so much the other three. [01:41] <LawlietLuv...> i know but its a good movie [01:42] <RenjiLuv2> I think bull sharks are the most dangerous... [01:42] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> XD My parents never cared much about me being afraid of what I saw in movies [01:43] <RenjiLuv2> My mom always sent me out of the room [01:43] <RenjiLuv2> I would just listen from the hallway most of the [01:43] <RenjiLuv2> *time [01:44] <RenjiLuv2> I wasn't the nicest small child... [01:44] <LawlietLuv...> when i was little i wouldn't listen to my parents about that stuff so i'm use to it now [01:44] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> There was only one movie that scared me when I was little [01:45] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Rated R....I think I was about....7? [01:45] <LawlietLuv...> what movie [01:45] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Dead Alive [01:45] <RenjiLuv2> I was 6 and watching murder shows. [01:45] <LawlietLuv...> never heard of it [01:45] <RenjiLuv2> Nope [01:45] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> It's known as being one of the goriest movies of all time [01:46] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Probably not appropriate for a seven year old. [01:46] <RenjiLuv2> A movie that is "scarey" is Children of the Corn [01:46] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> That? [01:46] <RenjiLuv2> It's so corny [01:46] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Pshh naw. [01:46] <LawlietLuv...> the one movie that scared when i was little Signs [01:46] <RenjiLuv2> No pun intended. [01:46] <LawlietLuv...> Signs [01:46] <RenjiLuv2> And I watched when I was 5 [01:47] <RenjiLuv2> I watch it now and think it's stupid [01:47] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm not scared of Dead Alive now. But when I was seven it absolutely traumatized me [01:47] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> lol [01:47] <RenjiLuv2> my mom made my sister watch 13 ghosts when she was 14. [01:47] <LawlietLuv...> ever since Silver Bullet i'v always been into werewolves [01:48] <RenjiLuv2> Hi there. [01:48] <Minish Link> I read a book series about werewolves that was actually pretty good. [01:48] <Minish Link> And hi. [01:48] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hiya [01:48] <Minish Link> Hi, Kotsu. [01:48] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> How's it going? [01:49] <LawlietLuv...> okay [01:49] <Minish Link> It's going alright. [01:49] <LawlietLuv...> oh Hi [01:49] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> :) That's good [01:50] <Minish Link> Indeed it is. [01:52] <LawlietLuv...> once my brother killed a Rattle Snake with a stick...poor snake [01:52] <LawlietLuv...> and stick [01:53] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> D: [01:53] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> :( That's sad [01:53] <LawlietLuv...> yeah it is [01:53] <LawlietLuv...> very [01:54] <RenjiLuv2> Poor snake [01:54] <LawlietLuv...> yeah [01:54] <Wattz2000> Hey folks! : D [01:54] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hello Wattz [01:54] <LawlietLuv...> Hey [01:54] <RenjiLuv2> I just had to get a toad out of our garage.]\ [01:54] <RenjiLuv2> Hey [01:54] <Minish Link> Toads are kind of neat. [01:55] <RenjiLuv2> It peed all over my hand. [01:55] <RenjiLuv2> gross [01:55] <Wattz2000> Oh my. [01:55] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Haha! [01:55] <Minish Link> I doubt it actually peed. [01:55] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> XD [01:55] <RenjiLuv2> No it peed [01:55] <Minish Link> If memory serves they excrete some kind of other liquid that isn't urine when scared. [01:55] <Minish Link> I remember because I think one did that to me and then I asked someone I know who is an animal person. [01:56] <RenjiLuv2> I swear it's pee [01:56] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I've gotten to hold a fruit bat :3 [01:56] <RenjiLuv2> they have bladders connected to their [01:56] <LawlietLuv...> really [01:56] <RenjiLuv2> nervis system [01:56] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Yeah ^-^ [01:56] <LawlietLuv...> cool [01:56] <RenjiLuv2> however you spell that. [01:56] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Bats are very cool [01:57] <LawlietLuv...> yup [01:57] <RenjiLuv2> I think bats are cute [01:57] <RenjiLuv2> ^.^ [01:57] <LawlietLuv...> i love bat man [01:57] <LawlietLuv...> and bats [01:57] <Minish Link> Nervous system. [01:57] <RenjiLuv2> haha. remember that joke [01:57] <Minish Link> And yeah, bats are cool. [01:57] <RenjiLuv2> Thanks [01:57] <LawlietLuv...> yeah [01:57] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I want to see a vampire bat [01:57] <RenjiLuv2> I heard some bats can have a wingspan of 3 feet [01:58] <LawlietLuv...> "i;m Bat Man...my parents are dead" [01:58] <RenjiLuv2> leave [01:58] <Minish Link> There's a species of really huge bats, yeah, but I forget what they're called. [01:58] <LawlietLuv...> bye [01:58] <RenjiLuv2> I did too [01:58] <RenjiLuv2> bye [01:58] <Wattz2000> Howdy, Sal. [01:58] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hi again Sal [01:58] <Minish Link> Err, multiple, if memory serves. [01:58] <Minish Link> Hi Sal. [01:58] <RenjiLuv2> Hey Sal. [01:58] <Salubri> yo [01:59] <RenjiLuv2> Hi [01:59] <Salubri> its gotta be storming out [01:59] <Salubri> so now ill miss newsroom [01:59] <RenjiLuv2> I gotta go [01:59] <RenjiLuv2> Dinner time [01:59] <RenjiLuv2> LATERS [01:59] <Minish Link> Bye. [02:04] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> :P [02:06] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> And now another person is asking me why I left DB [02:06] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Come on people, you can figure this out... [02:08] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> ...And apparently someone told people at DB that I got hit by a bus -.-' [04:50] <Linards74> Hello [04:58] <ZukatekuMitakashime> Hi. [05:10] <AssassinHood> Uh-hello. [05:35] <SunXia> oh hello morphy boy [05:35] <SunXia> and yesh that time i had pegasus's voice in my head [05:41] <Mohrpheus> Lol [05:42] <Mohrpheus> Hello Sunny. How you feeling today? [05:45] <SunXia> better than yesterday but very very sore, how are you?? [05:46] <Mohrpheus> Alright I suppose. Not looking forward to work, but that's just me being lazy [05:47] <Arrancar109> Hey guys. [05:47] <Arrancar109> Seems to have gotten pretty quiet in here, now that I've shown up. [05:47] <Mohrpheus> Ello Arrancar lol [05:48] <Arrancar109> How is everyone today? [05:48] <SunXia> hey arrancar [05:48] <AssassinHood> Uh..... [05:48] <SunXia> better than yesterday!! [05:48] <Arrancar109> Cool. [05:48] <Mohrpheus> Hungry. [05:48] <Arrancar109> Then, eat boy! [05:49] <SunXia> Assassin Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy we have a policy for chat here being for people who want to edit [05:49] <AssassinHood> Oh. Hmm....I kinda need Godisme 's help. Oh well. [05:49] <SunXia> the aim is to have 10 edits to articles on the site to show you want to do this [05:50] <SunXia> oh well PM him if its urgent :) [05:50] <AssassinHood> I am. [05:50] <SunXia> grand grand [05:51] <SunXia> anyway, moving on, i smell steak but really couldnt face eating steak [05:51] <AssassinHood> I'll take my leave as soon he helps me, if he wants to help me, that is. [05:51] <Arrancar109> He might be busy with other things. Multi-tasking is common these days. [05:51] <SunXia> thats fine as long as you understand [05:51] <Arrancar109> Key word is "might". I'm not sure if he. I'm not psychic, lol. [05:51] <AssassinHood> I'm a he. [05:51] <Arrancar109> I meant God. [05:52] <AssassinHood> Oh. [05:52] <Arrancar109> So if he doesn't respond, like I said, he's probably busy. [05:52] <SunXia> i love steak [05:52] <Mohrpheus> Okay Chie [05:53] <SunXia> yeah, i saw you had spoken to him on his Talk page so its probably about that [05:53] <SunXia> Chie? [05:53] <Arrancar109> Speaking of infoboxes... [05:53] <SunXia> si? [05:54] <Arrancar109> I can probably tweek with it myself, but I want to change the 1st and 13th Division's infoboxes to show the age column for those who have their ages listed. [05:54] <Arrancar109> Obviously because of Yamamoto and Rukia. [05:54] <AssassinHood> Oh, he doesn't respond. Does anyone of you know how the Switch template work? [05:54] <AssassinHood> I kinda need help with it. [05:55] <Arrancar109> Unfortunately, no. Coding has never been any of my strong suits. [05:55] <AssassinHood> Oh well. [05:56] <SunXia> how it works?? [05:56] <AssassinHood> Do you mind if I wait here until/or if he responds? [05:56] <AssassinHood> No, that I understand. [05:56] <SunXia> were you able to have the other infoboxes work?? [05:56] <Mohrpheus> I think Salubri is the code wizard. I could be wrong though. [05:57] <Arrancar109> I was about to recommend messaging him. [05:57] <AssassinHood> Yeah, but I can't make it switch. When I press "Pre-Timeskip" or "Post-timeskip", nothing happens. It's locked at one picture. [05:57] <SunXia> trying to think where that switch idea was taken from....was it Fairy Tail wiki?? [05:57] <AssassinHood> Okay, I will. Thank you for the advices. :) [05:57] <Arrancar109> I think the One Piece Wiki. [05:57] <Arrancar109> They did a timeskip thing in it too. [05:57] <Arrancar109> And they do have the feature there. [05:57] <SunXia> was it?? [05:57] <Arrancar109> Yep. [05:58] <Arrancar109> Just as Kuro. :p [05:58] <SunXia> hmm cant seem to recall, i kno Fairy Tail had the "asleep for years" or something thing [05:58] <Mohrpheus> These shounen mangas and their timeskips. Geez. [05:58] <Arrancar109> DBZ even did timeskips. [05:58] <Arrancar109> At least twice. :p [05:59] <Arrancar109> Three times if you count the fact that DBZ was just more of DB in the manga, lol. [05:59] <Mohrpheus> In Naruto it was 2 years, One Piece it was 2, Dragon Ball had a bunch of huge ones, Bleach had 17 months, Fairy Tail had 7 years... [05:59] <Arrancar109> Well, it's not like the next bad guy is going to appear the second the previous one has been defeated. [06:00] <Arrancar109> Look at these Vandenreich guys. They didn't come in after Aizen was defeated. [06:00] <SunXia> seems a common thee at the min [06:00] <SunXia> *theme [06:00] <Arrancar109> I don't count Kugo, due to the fact that he didn't have an interest in taking the Soul Society down; he just hated the Gotei 13. :p [06:00] <SunXia> he was a petty thief [06:01] <SunXia> convinced [06:01] <Arrancar109> lol [06:01] <SunXia> and he would never pull off the "I am an exceptional thief" line [06:01] <SunXia> s thats -2 [06:01] <SunXia> *so [06:01] <Arrancar109> I'm still not thoroughly convinced that the Gotei 13 was all that good. Not necessarily evil, but given how they had some backstabbing plot set up in the first place for Ichigo tells me that they're not as good as everyone wants them to be. [06:02] <Arrancar109> Even Rukia admitted to this when her thoughts dwelled on Ichigo's resolve during his fight with Kugo. [06:02] <SunXia> i dont think they are good, just the necessary balance-people [06:02] <Mohrpheus> Well, they really had no reason to trust him before he beat Aizen. Kinda silly to think about. [06:03] <Arrancar109> True, but they didn't need to have him killed either. [06:03] <SunXia> Kugo?? [06:04] <Arrancar109> Can't use that as a reason to defend Kugo though, since we were never given the details. [06:04] <Arrancar109> And no, Ichigo. [06:04] <Arrancar109> There plan was to have Kugo fight Ichigo, then they kill whoever lives. [06:04] <SunXia> ah right [06:05] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hi everyone [06:05] <Arrancar109> Hey Kotsu. [06:05] <Arrancar109> Ouch. [06:06] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hey Sal [06:06] <Arrancar109> Sal, we had someone looking for a coding expert earlier. [06:06] <Arrancar109> You just missed him, lol. [06:07] <Salubri> for what [06:07] <SunXia> indeed was having difficulty with the switch code [06:07] <Arrancar109> He wants to know how the timeskip switch template worked. [06:07] <SunXia> hey Kotsu and Sal &lt;/late&gt; [06:07] <Arrancar109> Looks like he messaged you though. [06:07] <SunXia> oh the dude wrote on his talk page [06:07] <SunXia> lol [06:07] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I just checked on my tarantula [06:08] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> She's doing well ^-^ [06:08] <Arrancar109> Good. [06:08] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Can't say the same for me. Since I was tragically hit by a bus and all ;) [06:08] <Salubri> oh [06:08] <Salubri> that [06:08] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> ...Hit by a bus XD [06:08] <Arrancar109> Ouch. [06:08] <Arrancar109> lol [06:09] <SunXia> how [06:09] <Arrancar109> Sun, it's a joke. [06:09] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Yeah [06:09] <SunXia> ..... [06:09] <Arrancar109> People from the DB Wiki he left started saying that for some reason. [06:09] <SunXia> right not slow on the uptake at all [06:09] <SunXia> lol nice [06:09] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Someone at DB told people the reason I was gone was because I got hit by a bus :P [06:10] <SunXia> who [06:10] <Salubri> that accident must have tramatic [06:10] <Mohrpheus> Makes sense. [06:10] <Arrancar109> lol [06:10] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm still trying to figure out how he reached that conclusion. [06:10] <Mohrpheus> I mean, what else could possibly get you away from them? You love that place! [06:10] <SunXia> who was it so i can arrange your memorial service with him [06:10] <Arrancar109> lol [06:10] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Gotenl [06:10] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> You probably won't know who that is. [06:10] <SunXia> ah dont think familiar with that one was hoping it was callan [06:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Nope. [06:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Callan knew I was leaving beforehand. [06:11] <Salubri> you know we talk a lot about the DB wiki [06:12] <Arrancar109> Speaking of which... [06:12] <SunXia> for some reason [06:12] <Salubri> it seems kind of redundent [06:12] <Arrancar109> According to Kotsu, they're falling apart without him over there. [06:12] <SunXia> but that is a funny story [06:12] <Salubri> oh well [06:12] <Arrancar109> And 10X wants to wait 2-3 months to replace him. :p [06:12] <Salubri> good for them [06:12] <Arrancar109> lol [06:12] <SunXia> thats a tad long, maybe he thinks he will come back [06:13] <Arrancar109> I don't. [06:13] <Arrancar109> 10X's ability to moderate is a joke. [06:13] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> That's what one of my friends is theorizing. [06:13] <Arrancar109> It's the entire reason why Kotsu left. [06:13] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Yeah. Pretty much. [06:13] <Salubri> i mean lets be realistic we all know how the wiki looks hows it run and commonly i believe the way we handle it is we dont involve ourselves in other wiki's they dont want to try to be better so why does it matter [06:13] <SunXia> i find them too lenient but that is 10X's decision i guess [06:14] <Arrancar109> Sun, I'm not sure how much you know, but KillerBaka keeps harassing him (and probably others), and the most 10X will do is warn him with empty scolding. [06:14] <SunXia> i know of it all [06:14] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> You know why too, huh? [06:14] <SunXia> and i know the person who only scolded him too [06:15] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Because Baka is 10X's little buddy. [06:15] <Arrancar109> Yep. [06:15] <SunXia> yeah of course [06:15] <Arrancar109> It's a stupid reason that would never fly here. [06:15] <SunXia> i recall i was the one whom he called a jerk [06:15] <Salubri> well whats done is done [06:15] <Arrancar109> Yep. [06:15] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Uh huh [06:15] <SunXia> baka i mean [06:15] <Salubri> no point in harping on it [06:15] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> How are you all? [06:15] <SunXia> past is past [06:16] <Arrancar109> Doing good. [06:17] <SunXia> my cousin came up and she was sick too, went home pretty fast i think she wanted my meds [06:17] <Salubri> humm [06:17] <Salubri> oh there was something i wanted to run past you guys [06:17] <Arrancar109> Shoot. [06:18] <SunXia> indeed?? [06:18] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Sure [06:20] <Salubri> about the power level [06:20] <Salubri> i thought making it clearer would be a good thing [06:20] <SunXia> like reiatsu?? [06:21] <SunXia> i have seen people get confused over the immense and vast [06:22] <Arrancar109> I would think so too. [06:23] <Salubri> there is a common distinction in what is balanced out as to not be more or less powerful than the other skills. It is the skill and prowess of the user that determines victory. [06:24] <SunXia> so what were you thinking of?? [06:24] <Salubri> Rieryoku is spiritual power and reiatsu is spiritual pressure [06:25] <Salubri> how one utilizes the rieryouku is different and unrelated to the amount of reiatsu, which is in itself entirely separate to the skills powered by rieryoku [06:26] <SunXia> as proven by Uryu and Unohana with their paths and such, despite ichigos power his path was dodgy [06:27] <SunXia> hey Lawly I left you a talk page message i need you to read it thoroughyl [06:27] <Arrancar109> Are we going to add Reiryoku usage onto their Powers &amp; Abilities pages? [06:27] <Salubri> well yea Ichigo's reiryoku is great but we all see how he utilizes it [06:27] <Salubri> which is barely and not with much skill [06:28] <SunXia> i'd say thats a good idea [06:29] <Salubri> the same is said of kenpachi but he uses his reiatsu as far better for his own purposes [06:29] <SunXia> like Kenpachi wears the eye patch as he cant contains his reiatsu [06:29] <SunXia> true teu [06:30] <Salubri> well he can he chooses to suppress it to maintain a certain power level to drag out fights, come on you know this [06:30] <SunXia> yes true but i still wouldnt say he has huge control over it [06:30] <Arrancar109> Still, how exactly are we going to label this on their respective pages? I know from the sound of things, it isn't going to go under their "Spiritual Power" subsections. [06:31] <SunXia> he wasnt trained, it was mainly his background that forced him to utilize it [06:31] <Salubri> well lets brain storm [06:32] <Godisme> Sal, bring me up to speed here, what is it you are proposing? [06:33] <SunXia> it would need to be something memorable and distinct in that people would immediately be able to tell what it is [06:33] <SunXia> proposition a a new addition of Reiryoku skill level rather than just power/size level [06:33] <Salubri> basically there seems to be some issues i notice with some of the pages how we mix power volume, usage and level together [06:34] <SunXia> in the P&amp;A section [06:35] <Godisme> That might be good [06:36] <SunXia> i do like it as clearly there are people of more skill using it than others [06:36] <Arrancar109> Yeah, definitely [06:37] <Salubri> Rieryoku is a definition of volume of power [06:38] <Salubri> reiatsu is a definition of level the user is capable of [06:38] <Salubri> but how both are utilized for whatever have you varies between characters [06:39] <Salubri> kenpachi and ichigo are the easiest ones, how to change them is the question. [06:39] <Godisme> Yeah, thats the thing I see being the problem [06:40] <Salubri> so whats some definition for volume [06:40] <Salubri> vast, immense, great. Maybe something more specific then that [06:41] <Salubri> then there is something to say about the pressure level as well [06:41] <Arrancar109> Yeah, given how much Ichigo and Kenpachi typically don't use. [06:41] <SunXia> yeah people get confused i often see people want others with the vast label but they are mistaking skill for volume i think [06:42] <Salubri> we apparently have been doing so as well, lol [06:42] <SunXia> yeah hence why the others were confused too [06:43] <SunXia> brain storm [06:43] <Wattz2000> Hey. [06:43] <Salubri> how does one grade volume by level though [06:43] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Back [06:43] <Arrancar109> Hi Wattz. [06:44] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hello Wattz [06:45] <Salubri> any idead [06:45] <Salubri> ideas [06:46] <Godisme> The problem is we don't have definitive amounts. So we can't say they have x amount [06:46] <SunXia> so skill, would you use similar things like Kido expert etc?? [06:47] <Godisme> So we need a system by which we can group them into different tiers somewhat like we have been doing but a little different [06:47] <SunXia> i mean expert master and such?? [06:47] <Salubri> well kido, hakuda, shunpo are skills we can measure those easily [06:47] <SunXia> a little more....distinctive [06:49] <Salubri> yea, but what and how [06:50] <Arrancar109> "Partial", Normal, and "Advanced", maybe? [06:51] <SunXia> thats good [06:51] <SunXia> partial, skilled advanced although so tempted to have ichigo down as "wings it" lol [06:52] <Arrancar109> lol [06:53] <Arrancar109> But yeah, given how Ichigo and Kenpachi don't have a high level of control (and that's putting it nicely), I think they'd qualify as "partial". [06:53] <Salubri> High, medium, low [06:54] <Salubri> volume [06:54] <Arrancar109> So something like "High Volume of Reiryoku Control"? [06:54] <Godisme> Kenpachi has slightly more control than Ichigo, remember when Kenpachi was first introduced, Ichigo felt Kenpachi's reiatsu as if it was holding a knife to his throat. Not sure if that is enough to put him up a level but he has displayed more control than Ichigo [06:57] <SunXia> agreed, plus that adjusting to nnoitra's hierro [07:03] <SunXia> but i would still his is basic compared to others as we know ichigo can do getsuga but royally fails in a lot of other shinigami skills [07:03] <Arrancar109> Very much so, yes. [07:07] <Godisme> We can obviously rate Yamamoto at the highest levels of all [07:07] <Arrancar109> Yep. [07:07] <RenjiLuv2> Hey [07:07] <Arrancar109> What about Aizen? I mean, yeah, now he has no powers, but I'm talking about before his confinement. [07:07] <Godisme> Probably very similar to Yamamoto [07:07] <Arrancar109> And before all the Hogyoku Transformation stuff. [07:08] <Arrancar109> Hmm... [07:08] <Arrancar109> And hi Renji. [07:08] <Godisme> I don't remember his battle stats, let me look those up [07:08] <Godisme> Yeah, he is rated at 100 for reiatsu [07:09] <Arrancar109> Ouch. Sal's going to miss this information [07:09] <Godisme> Thats what the logs are for :) [07:09] <Arrancar109> Cool. [07:09] <Godisme> And I know Yyp usually checks the logs so he will likely voice his opinion [07:10] <Salubri> so we decide on anything [07:11] <Godisme> Not really, just going through where we would place people in the new levels [07:11] <Arrancar109> Well, I'm not sure if you saw it, but in response to your "low, mid, high" and "volume" remarks, I used "High Volume of Reiryoku Control" as an example. [07:13] <Arrancar109> We also discussed Nnoitra's and Yamamoto's level. [07:13] <Arrancar109> And Aizen's. [07:13] <Arrancar109> Pre-Hogyoku and pre-prisoned Aizen. [07:14] <Arrancar109> Not the Aizen of now, who we all know, has no powers. :p [07:17] <Godisme> Alright, back to hammering out the names for the levels [07:17] <SunXia> would we have three levels or more?? [07:18] <Godisme> I think three would work the best [07:18] <Arrancar109> We can either go for something like "High Level Volume of Reiryoku Control" or "Advanced Reiryoku Control"? Whatever works and seems easier and better to work with, IMO. [07:18] <Arrancar109> Definitely. [07:18] <Godisme> I'd go with Advanced Reiryoku Control, High Level Volume just sounds confusing [07:19] <Arrancar109> If the former, it'd be Low, Medium, and High. [07:19] <Arrancar109> And on that one, God, it would be Partial, Basic, and Advanced. [07:19] <Arrancar109> She'll be back. [07:20] <Arrancar109> I can tell she wants to hammer this out. [07:20] <Godisme> Definitely [07:20] <Arrancar109> See? :p [07:21] <Godisme> Instead of basic, I would say normal would fit better. Basic makes it sound like they are just a beginner when they could have a fair amount of control, just not the highest [07:21] <Arrancar109> True. [07:21] <Arrancar109> Which I was thinking just "Reiryoku Control" would be sufficient. [07:21] <Godisme> Probably [07:22] <SunXia> for the basic level?? [07:23] <Godisme> Yeah [07:23] <Godisme> We do it with other skills [07:23] <Arrancar109> True. [07:24] <Arrancar109> "Sonido Practitioner" and "Shunpo Practitioner" just sound weird. :p [07:24] <Arrancar109> Kido, not so much, since some individuals (namely Renji) have trouble using it, or don't use it a whole lot in battle. [07:24] <SunXia> indeed [07:27] <Salubri> hummm [07:28] <Salubri> good points [07:29] <RenjiLuv2> i'm lost on this subject..... [07:30] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Just sit down and listen then Renji :) [07:30] <Salubri> Hakuda, Kido, Shunpo are fine i think [07:30] <SunXia> would you want open an official discussion just in case anyone wants to add something later including yyp?? [07:30] <Arrancar109> I know. I was just using them as examples. [07:30] <Arrancar109> And that wouldn't be a bad idea, Sal. [07:30] <Salubri> When does Yyp ever interact on any of this stuff lol [07:30] <Arrancar109> You got us three, but Yyp and maybe some of the other Committee members want to give their own input. [07:31] <Arrancar109> lol [07:32] <Godisme> Yyp really needs to get on chat more [07:33] <SunXia> well ideas are always welcome [07:33] <Arrancar109> I'll do what I always do. [07:33] <Arrancar109> I blame Answers. :p [07:34] <Godisme> Please Yyp only handles the morning on Answers, I take the night shift there =P [07:34] <Arrancar109> lol [07:35] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> It lies. I am not away. [07:35] <SunXia> i wonder is he a vampire [07:36] <Godisme> If Yyp was a 5000 year old irish vampire that secretly puppeteered Kubo into writing Bleach... I would not be surprised [07:36] <Arrancar109> lol [07:36] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> XD [07:37] <RenjiLuv2> XD [07:37] <LawlietLuv...> XD [07:37] <SunXia> would not shock me either [07:37] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I found out what tarantula blood looks like yesterday :( [07:37] <Godisme> We have worked with Yyp for how many years now and the most we know about him is that he is irish [07:38] <Arrancar109> Yep, pretty much. [07:38] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> He seems elusive :P [07:38] <RenjiLuv2> How did you see tarantula blood? [07:38] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> My tarantula got injured D: [07:38] <RenjiLuv2> Aww [07:38] <Godisme> He might be a secret agent, traveling the world, doing dangerous things all while doing massive amounts of work here [07:39] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> The claw at the end of one of her legs was missing [07:39] <Arrancar109> lol [07:39] <Arrancar109> The dedicated worker. :p [07:39] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I think it snagged on something and tore off [07:39] <SunXia> do we even know what part other than it being the republic?? [07:39] <LawlietLuv...> oh [07:39] <RenjiLuv2> That stinks for her. [07:39] <Godisme> Nope, we just know he is Irish [07:39] <SunXia> ew Kotsu [07:39] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> :( Not ew [07:39] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> It's sad. [07:39] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> But tarantula blood is a strange color [07:39] <Godisme> We don't know how old he is either [07:40] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> It's like....light grayish blueish [07:40] <RenjiLuv2> Ew [07:40] <LawlietLuv...> oh thats cool [07:40] <Arrancar109> Well, according to you, he's twice over Yamamoto's age. :p [07:40] <RenjiLuv2> That sounds gross [07:40] <Godisme> I feel like we should conduct an interview with Yyp to finally clear up all the mystery surrounding him [07:40] <Arrancar109> lol [07:40] <Arrancar109> I wouldn't mind that. [07:40] <Godisme> But then we couldn't sit on chat and speculate about him [07:40] <LawlietLuv...> it sounds like a cool color [07:40] <Arrancar109> lol [07:41] <SunXia> we could speculate his cover up story [07:41] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> But I guess tarantulas can regrow whole legs if they must [07:41] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> So she'll be okay [07:41] <RenjiLuv2> Cool [07:42] <SunXia> sorry scared of spiders [07:42] <SunXia> and blood [07:42] <Salubri> Absolute Rieryoku Control, Considerable Rieryoku Control, Limited Rieryoku Control [07:43] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> And I'm mixing the two in one, so that must be worse? [07:43] <Godisme> Im not sure about Absolute but the rest sound good [07:43] <Arrancar109> Limited definitely applies to both Ichigo and Kenpachi. [07:43] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Advanced? [07:43] <Arrancar109> We tried that. [07:43] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Aw [07:43] <Arrancar109> God and I like it, but not sure about everyone else. [07:43] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I like it [07:44] <Godisme> Master perhaps? [07:44] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> If that counts :) [07:44] <Salubri> Absolute would define the captains definitely [07:46] <Arrancar109> I'd question some of that, Sal. Namely Sui-Feng and Komamura. One primarily relies on hand-to-hand fighting techniques, the other relies on his strength and the attack power of his Zanpakuto. [09:09] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> And then it goes quiet :P [09:09] <RenjiLuv2> I gotta go too [09:09] <RenjiLuv2> Bye [09:09] <The Dark Sorcerer> bye [09:09] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Later Renj [09:10] <Salubri> Kotsu did you help Godisme with the new layout [09:10] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Can I help? [09:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'd like to if there's anything I can do about it. Just gotta let me know. [09:11] <Salubri> guess it depends on what hes tryin to do really [09:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'll ask him when he gets back. [09:16] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hey [09:16] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Welcome back God [09:17] <Godisme> Hello [09:17] <SunXia> heres the discussion after you left http://pastebin.com/w4pSThYm [09:18] <Godisme> thanks [09:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Tackling a big page [09:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Loads of edits to make [09:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> This is fun ^-^ [09:23] <Godisme> Sal, I see there was still argument over using Absolute vs. Advanced. How about the term Master. It implies a great deal of control, more so that the next level down but does not imply that all those in the category have perfect control of their reiatsu as we know that some don't [09:26] <Salubri> umm [09:27] <RenjiLuv2> Yo [09:28] <Godisme> I wouldn't be opposed to using the term absolute, I just don't think it is the best choice [09:28] <Salubri> idk [09:28] <SunXia> that is a good suggestion, points to captain level without going too far but still implies complete mastery is attainable [09:28] <SunXia> Hey renji [09:28] <SunXia> i like how you brushed up by the way [09:30] <The Dark Sorcerer> But it implies almost "perfect" [09:30] <The Dark Sorcerer> When a shinigami can always further their spiritual pressure. [09:30] <Salubri> arrancar isnt here so Sun explain to me what your talking about cause im certain im talking about something different [09:31] <The Dark Sorcerer> I think advance is better choice. [09:33] <SunXia> well what Arrancar and I were seeing eye to eye on is that while all the Captains have very high control levels of their reiryoku, i would say some have more skill in it or control in it than others, while they all are still captain-level i dont think captain-level cant have differences within it as well, like kenpachi, i dont komamura would be as skilled as someone like Sui-Feng or Unohana or Yamamoto etc [09:34] <Salubri> see thats the problem right there [09:34] <The Dark Sorcerer> But you can't say that. [09:35] <The Dark Sorcerer> Because control is different for different levels of reiryoku. [09:35] <Salubri> whats the justification of that, we arent talking about how much power they have that already is taken care of [09:35] <SunXia> of course not talking of power im talking of control [09:35] <Godisme> We know that Hitsugaya has stated he has trouble sometimes controlling his reiatsu [09:35] <Godisme> So he is obviously not perfect [09:36] <The Dark Sorcerer> But you can't compare peoples control. [09:36] <The Dark Sorcerer> Especially when they each have their own unique levels. [09:36] <Salubri> You of all people Godisme know that Kubo stated that isnt a problem of his any longer [09:37] <Godisme> Not any longer, yes, but the fact that it was means that not all captains have perfect control [09:37] <SunXia> Reiryoku control is required for many techiques, captains reducing the size of their zanpakuto is an example yes, but control is also required for kido use, and obviously healing and obviously Sui-feng would one have to suppress hers for assassinations, and using shunko would require high level especially from scratch [09:37] <Salubri> see Sun your talking about something totally different [09:37] <The Dark Sorcerer> Actually in terms of captains. Most of the captains have to a high degree mastered their control of their own reiryoku. [09:37] <Salubri> your way off the discussion which i knew was the problem [09:38] <RenjiLuv2> I'm gonna go. LATERS [09:38] <SunXia> im not saying they dont sorcerer im saying there are varying degrees [09:38] <The Dark Sorcerer> apart from a few exceptions, due to other facotrs. [09:39] <Godisme> My point is simply that using the term absolute implies that all these people have perfect control over their reiatsu and none have any problems. I don't think this is the case. If so, Hitsugaya would not have had to train to better control his. [09:39] <Salubri> You cant say this person or that person doesnt have control cause they arent good at a certain technique or dont use a certain technique. Thats like saying just because someone studying self defense like karate is more capable of controling themselves then someone who doesnt know any karate [09:39] <The Dark Sorcerer> Absolute implies perfect. [09:39] <The Dark Sorcerer> That's why it can't work [09:40] <Godisme> Im just weary of calling anyone perfect [09:40] <Salubri> Hence why there are levels. [09:41] <Godisme> Yamamoto is the only person who I would be comfortable as describing as perfect [09:41] <The Dark Sorcerer> Even he isn't perfect. [09:41] <The Dark Sorcerer> He hasn't reached the absolute limit of power that a shinigami can have. [09:42] <The Dark Sorcerer> All shinigami in some way can always progress to higher levels. [09:42] <The Dark Sorcerer> Yamamoto is incredibly power, beyond any other shinigami that we know of. [09:42] <The Dark Sorcerer> However, he still isn't "Perfect" [09:43] <The Dark Sorcerer> That's not to say that another shinigami can't be as powerful as him or even more. Because it is possible. [09:44] <Salubri> You know you cant make that call Sorcerer for what you say to be accurate you would have to prove there is something higher [09:45] <Salubri> your argument also doesnt detract the point of the levels [09:45] <The Dark Sorcerer> But it's quite apparent that Yamamoto isn't the most powerful a shinigami can get. [09:45] <SunXia> my point was that people had shown more evidence of this control [09:45] <Salubri> according to what information does that information come [09:46] <SunXia> quite apparent??? [09:46] <Salubri> according to how you qualify it thats not how im qualifying though sun [09:46] <The Dark Sorcerer> Before Aizen left soul society, he said that he had mastered all area's of shinigami skill he had reached the limit, he had full control of his own unique reitsu. [09:46] <SunXia> its quite clear that Yamamoto a only defeated by his own powers [09:46] <Salubri> no he didnt [09:46] <SunXia> he had reached HIS limits [09:46] <Salubri> how many times have we heard people say that [09:46] <The Dark Sorcerer> He did. [09:46] <Godisme> Dark Sorcerer, he didnt [09:46] <Salubri> that innacurate [09:46] <Godisme> We looked for a reference, nowhere did he say that [09:47] <SunXia> i'll go to that chapter [09:47] <The Dark Sorcerer> It's in flower on the precipice [09:47] <Godisme> I've reread the Soul Society arc a hundred times looking for it, he never says it [09:47] <The Dark Sorcerer> that's why he took the hogyoku [09:47] <Salubri> what he said was a general comment about the different forms of combat [09:47] <The Dark Sorcerer> to further his power. [09:47] <Salubri> he made no personal statement saying his level in any of them [09:48] <SunXia> oh edit conflict i was doing a "discussion Resolved" there [09:48] <Salubri> also he didnt take the hogyoku for that reason, this is all explained. [09:49] <SunXia> i do think it implied that in the english dub that he was at his shinigami limits [09:50] <Godisme> I think the anime added that in [09:50] <The Dark Sorcerer> Well theres a lot of confusion about that... [09:50] <The Dark Sorcerer> Many people believe that he said that. [09:51] <Godisme> Well whether many people believe it or not, he never did [09:51] <The Dark Sorcerer> Hence the reason why he took the hogyoku to transcend his limits. [09:51] <Godisme> Many people believe that Ulquiorra is alive, doesn't make it true [09:51] <The Dark Sorcerer> But why else would he wan't the hogyoku if he hadn't of reached his shinigmai potential limits? [09:52] <Godisme> Many reasons, to gain power, to create Arrancar, you name it [09:52] <The Dark Sorcerer> No he did... I know I'm right, he stated that he had reached his shinigami limits. Hence why he needed to further transform into another form to reach new limits. [09:52] <SunXia> overthrow the king?? [09:53] <Salubri> no thats wrong [09:53] <The Dark Sorcerer> No it isn't. [09:53] <Godisme> Dark Sorcerer, find where he said that, chapter and page, and we will put it in [09:53] <Salubri> the entire story the hogyoku is a tool a means to get to other things [09:53] <Salubri> he also already had a hogyoku as it was [09:54] <Godisme> When that statement was removed from Aizen's article, I reread the Soul Society arc several times looking for it, I found nothing [09:54] <The Dark Sorcerer> Why on earth would the hokyoku transform him? [09:54] <The Dark Sorcerer> If he still hadn't of reached his shinigami limit? [09:55] <Godisme> Because his desire was to become stronger [09:55] <The Dark Sorcerer> He's not idiot. [09:55] <Salubri> your adding reasoning to something never said [09:55] <The Dark Sorcerer> If he knew that he hadn't of reached his limit he would have still went to the top to gain it. [09:55] <Godisme> Or he could have taken the hogyoku so he could go beyond anything training would have given him [09:56] <Godisme> Again, find a reference [09:56] <The Dark Sorcerer> He wouldn't have implented the hogyoku into his body if he hadn't of reached his full potential already. [09:56] <Godisme> Yes he would have [09:56] <The Dark Sorcerer> It's common sense! [09:56] <Godisme> Find a reference [09:56] <The Dark Sorcerer> How can you not see that? [09:56] <Godisme> Find a reference [09:58] <Salubri> otherwise its an opinion [09:59] <The Dark Sorcerer> chapter 175 [09:59] <The Dark Sorcerer> Aizen says talks about the shinigami limits [09:59] <The Dark Sorcerer> and he says the only way to go beyond those limits is to use the hogyoku [09:59] <The Dark Sorcerer> or well a "shinigami hollow hybrid" [10:00] <The Dark Sorcerer> This implies that he has reached his full potential of those limits. Hence why wanted the Hogyoku! [10:00] <The Dark Sorcerer> to become a "shinigami hollow hybrid" [10:01] <Godisme> Implies [10:01] <Godisme> not states [10:01] <Godisme> Implication is subjective [10:01] <Salubri> im reading that now and guess what find where he is talking about himself and not simply making a generalization of a fact [10:01] <The Dark Sorcerer> Look it's the unseen words. [10:01] <The Dark Sorcerer> It's staring at you in the face! [10:01] <The Dark Sorcerer> Come on... [10:02] <The Dark Sorcerer> You know that it's true [10:02] <Godisme> What I see is Aizen saying that there is a limit that Shinigami can reach and that he is looking for a way to break that limit [10:02] <The Dark Sorcerer> Oh my god [10:02] <Godisme> No where do I see him saying "I have mastered all forms of Shinigami combat" [10:02] <Salubri> your seeing what you want to see he isnt sayin him he stating a fact of being a shinigami [10:03] <Salubri> in fact the only time he speaks of himself having a limit is when he fought Isshin [10:03] <The Dark Sorcerer> You are so negligent! [10:03] <The Dark Sorcerer> It's the unseen words [10:03] <The Dark Sorcerer> Plain as day [10:04] <Godisme> You sure do like your opinions [10:04] <The Dark Sorcerer> you refuse to believe it just because it isn't stated. [10:04] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> :P [10:04] <The Dark Sorcerer> that's the thing with you guys. [10:04] <Godisme> Yes, I dont believe stuff unless it is said [10:04] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Well the articles are for facts [10:04] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Things that are actually said [10:04] <Godisme> I can say that Aizen is actually the spirit king [10:04] <Godisme> and say its the unseen words [10:04] <The Dark Sorcerer> But there is no evidence at all for that. [10:04] <The Dark Sorcerer> nor is any form of implication [10:05] <Godisme> implication is subjective [10:05] <The Dark Sorcerer> There is an extremely high form of implication in that chapter [10:05] <Salubri> also negligence implies a breach of ones duty, last i recall assuming isnt a requirement [10:05] <Godisme> We work off of objectiveness [10:06] <The Dark Sorcerer> You need to read imbetween the lines [10:06] <Salubri> Lot of things can be implied regardless of degree unless outright stated its not a fact. [10:06] <Godisme> No thans, I like facts, not opinions [10:06] <Salubri> otherwise its a assumption [10:07] <The Dark Sorcerer> Fine. [10:07] <Salubri> its as bad as the user who said that Momo wasnt qualified to be a lieutenant [10:07] <The Dark Sorcerer> theres no need to continue this anyway. I know I'm right that's all that matters. [10:08] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> e.e [10:08] <Godisme> Okay sure [10:08] <Godisme> and I know im right [10:08] <Godisme> and thats all that matters [10:08] <Godisme> I also know you are wrong [10:08] <Salubri> actually you only can be right if it can be referenced otherwise your just making up your own story, but whatever you choose to believe, just know we are discussing facts [10:08] <Godisme> but hey, lets not go there [10:09] <The Dark Sorcerer> Sure think what you like. [10:09] <Godisme> You too [10:09] <The Dark Sorcerer> Fine. [10:09] <Godisme> Im just going to keep on believing in facts and what can be proved [10:09] <The Dark Sorcerer> I said fine... [10:10] <Salubri> Anyway techniques and power level have taken care of themselves [10:10] <Salubri> what we are talking about the control of that that power [10:10] <The Dark Sorcerer> But control is different for each individual. [10:10] <Salubri> Master would be fine i think i can live with that [10:10] <The Dark Sorcerer> I still think advanced would be more suitable... [10:10] <Salubri> so master, considerable and limited [10:11] <SunXia> agreed sal [10:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Observing everything that's been said, Master sounds all right [10:11] <Godisme> Ill agree as well [10:11] <The Dark Sorcerer> Kotsu you don't know almost anything about bleach. So I don't really think it's fair for you to choose sides in this argument. [10:11] <The Dark Sorcerer> discussion I mean. [10:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm actually reading Bleach. [10:11] <Godisme> Dark Sorcerer, why do you keep picking on Kotsu? [10:11] <The Dark Sorcerer> I'm not picking! [10:12] <Salubri> actually i noticed that as well [10:12] <Godisme> Every time you are in here, you pick on Kotsu [10:12] <The Dark Sorcerer> Why does it always come across like that. [10:12] <Salubri> you tell us [10:12] <The Dark Sorcerer> You tell me, that's not what I imply it to come across as. [10:12] <Salubri> well thats what comes across [10:12] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Well you did say you didn't like me the other day... [10:12] <The Dark Sorcerer> I said no offence after I said that. [10:13] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I don't need to have taken offense to it. That doesn't change the fact that you apparently don't like me. [10:13] <The Dark Sorcerer> Anyway if the majority agrees on master then so be it. [10:14] <The Dark Sorcerer> There are always people that I like and don't like at places. [10:14] <Salubri> how does someone not take offense at a offensive statement even if you say no offense that doesnt excuse it from being offensive [10:14] <The Dark Sorcerer> I never intended it to come across as offensive. I just wanted to make it apparent to him. [10:15] <The Dark Sorcerer> He doesn't mind. [10:15] <Yamichidori1> Hello. [10:15] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Well congratulations. It seems to be apparent to not only me, but to God and Sal as well. [10:15] <The Dark Sorcerer> So I don't know why you're argueing. [10:15] <The Dark Sorcerer> I have got nothing against them. [10:15] <The Dark Sorcerer> you shouldn't be so judgemental. [10:16] <The Dark Sorcerer> just because I don't like you, doesn't mean I don't like everyone else. [10:16] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hey Yamichidori1 and Simoneau. You need 10 productive article edits to be in here. [10:16] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I didn't say you didn't like everyone else. [10:16] <The Dark Sorcerer> Oh sorry. [10:17] <The Dark Sorcerer> thought you did. [10:17] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> What I was saying is that God and Sal can probably even see you don't like me, since they've noticed you picking on me. [10:17] <The Dark Sorcerer> I'm not picking on you. [10:17] <Salubri> The fact that you have no reason to not like him and your attitude in general especially towards Kotsu is worrying [10:18] <The Dark Sorcerer> I say one little thing and suddenly the whole room makes a big deal out of it? [10:18] <The Dark Sorcerer> Just one small thing. [10:18] <The Dark Sorcerer> In which I intended no offence. [10:18] <The Dark Sorcerer> yet you all seem to think that I'm picking on him [10:18] <Godisme> Yet you pick on Kotsu daily [10:18] <The Dark Sorcerer> after saying only one thing [10:19] <The Dark Sorcerer> Ok fine. I'm telling you that I'm not picking on him [10:19] <The Dark Sorcerer> Theres nothing more I can say [10:19] <The Dark Sorcerer> I have no reason to lie. [10:19] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Yamichidori1 [10:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> You need 10 productive article edits [10:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> You have to get them or you're going to end up banned [10:20] <The Dark Sorcerer> He might not know what that is. [10:20] <The Dark Sorcerer> or how to get them [10:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Could ask [10:20] <The Dark Sorcerer> maybe he's too confused... [10:20] <Godisme> Then he can respond to the pms I have been sending him [10:20] <The Dark Sorcerer> oh ok [10:20] <The Dark Sorcerer> fair enough [10:20] <Godisme> Ill give him two minutes to send a reply or he will be kicked again [10:21] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Sounds fair enough. [10:22] <RenjiLuv2> Hey [10:22] <The Dark Sorcerer> Welcome back [10:22] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hi Renj [10:23] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> That was fast. [10:23] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> :P [10:23] <RenjiLuv2> Well that was interesting. [10:23] <The Dark Sorcerer> Poor guy. [10:23] <The Dark Sorcerer> lol you arrived just in time to see the ban. [10:23] <Godisme> He was given ample time to respond [10:23] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I know [10:23] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Haha nice banning there [10:23] <The Dark Sorcerer> I know.. But it is a little sad... [10:24] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Not really [10:24] <The Dark Sorcerer> I think so. [10:24] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> If he could keep coming back, I can't see how responding would have been an issue. [10:24] <Godisme> I would much prefer if users left of their own accord but if you keep rejoining after multiple kicks, I have no choice but to ban [10:24] <Salubri> im so excited, if nothing else about this arc the fact that Unohana is gonna fight is gonna be epic [10:24] <RenjiLuv2> the new people should listen to the people who have like 10,000 edits [10:24] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> The other one left on their own. [10:25] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> At least we got that. [10:25] <Godisme> Unohana probably goes battle crazy [10:25] <The Dark Sorcerer> "crazy" [10:25] <SunXia> retsu baby!!!! [10:25] <Godisme> so calm and mild mannered all the time, but when on the battle field, she is probably insanse [10:25] <The Dark Sorcerer> Interesting choice of words. =D [10:25] <The Dark Sorcerer> for unohana. [10:25] <Godisme> *insane [10:25] <The Dark Sorcerer> Even more interesting. [10:25] <Salubri> we finally will see why they all fear the nicest captain of the gotei 13 [10:25] <The Dark Sorcerer> Insane! [10:26] <RenjiLuv2> She would go crazy. [10:26] <The Dark Sorcerer> Just because she is always smiling people think she is insane. [10:26] <Godisme> There has to be a reason people feat her [10:26] <The Dark Sorcerer> There's nothing wrong with smiling, maybe she just likes smiling. =) [10:26] <The Dark Sorcerer> it's because of her "creepy smile" apparently [10:27] <RenjiLuv2> Yeah... [10:27] <Godisme> We know she is a kendo master [10:27] <Salubri> You also notice how Aizen when confronted by her left in a hurry, quite odd [10:27] <The Dark Sorcerer> Ohohohoooo Kenpachi's got competition. [10:27] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Damn it Firefox... [10:27] <RenjiLuv2> Google Chrome is worse in my opinion [10:27] <The Dark Sorcerer> He had things to do. [10:27] <Godisme> Im excited to see Urahara's bankai [10:28] <Godisme> We have been teased by it for so long [10:28] <The Dark Sorcerer> I'm sure it's because he didn't to waste time, especially after being exposed. [10:28] <Godisme> and hell, we really aren't even sure what exactly it is his shikai does [10:28] <Salubri> im excited to know anything more then the name of her zanpakuto [10:28] <The Dark Sorcerer> I'm excited to see kyoraku's bankai! [10:28] <Godisme> That will be an interesting one [10:29] <RenjiLuv2> I wanted to see what her zanpakuto's face looked like. [10:29] <Godisme> The power to bring childrens games to life x 10 [10:29] <The Dark Sorcerer> Some people think it's a one big child's game. [10:29] <Godisme> I wonder [10:29] <The Dark Sorcerer> thing. [10:29] <Salubri> there has to be more to ukitake's then he has shown and thats just shikai [10:29] <The Dark Sorcerer> Ohh forget ukitake. [10:29] <Godisme> Probably [10:29] <The Dark Sorcerer> His zanpaktou is sooo uninteresting... [10:30] <Godisme> As it would be rather useless against anything that isnt a projectile [10:30] <The Dark Sorcerer> precisely [10:30] <RenjiLuv2> his was annoying when it manifested. [10:30] <Salubri> exactly which doesnt make much sense [10:30] <SunXia> well he didnt really fight for long [10:30] <Salubri> where not talking about that horrible filler arc Renji [10:30] <RenjiLuv2> I know. I'm just saying... [10:30] <Godisme> I imagine there is a lot more it can reflect [10:31] <The Dark Sorcerer> I was hoping actually to see more of chojuro vice-captain of squad one. [10:31] <The Dark Sorcerer> But there's hardly anything known about his abilities. [10:31] <Salubri> I can only imagine that Yamamoto's bankai makes the sun rise and then it goes supernova destroying all existence lol [10:31] <Salubri> the funny thing is that might be it [10:32] <The Dark Sorcerer> Either kubo intended to leave him a mystery so people could make up their own ideas. OR he couldn't be bothered to think of a cool concept for him. [10:32] <Godisme> Yamamoto's bankai is probably just 1. Release 2. Incinerate everyting to little bits within a 500 mile radius [10:33] <The Dark Sorcerer> That would be so bland [10:33] <The Dark Sorcerer> It has to interesting [10:33] <Salubri> that seems boring [10:33] <SunXia> nuclear Ryojin Jaka [10:33] <The Dark Sorcerer> he would have to use it somewhere FAR FAR away then. [10:33] <SunXia> Battlefield = Chrnobyl [10:33] <The Dark Sorcerer> don't want to blow up soul society. [10:34] <Godisme> Perhaps Yama's Bankai can create fusion on earth? [10:34] <Godisme> Certainly would make it hot enough [10:34] <SunXia> selfish beoch, he should use it so we dont waste or non renewable sources [10:34] <SunXia> *resources [10:34] <The Dark Sorcerer> that's how the world was created. [10:34] <The Dark Sorcerer> Yamamoto just came along [10:34] <The Dark Sorcerer> and BANKAI [10:34] <Salubri> Speaking of which how much do you wanna bet these bankai's or releases in general are gonna be pretty much a let down. Kubo has been doing that lately and recently he admitted after all this time he hasnt bothered coming up with anything new for kenpachi or yachiru in the zanpakuto area. We wont ever see her fight. [10:35] <SunXia> i would have liked to have seen all the main officers fight on some scale [10:35] <SunXia> we got omaeda but not even the interesting Yachiru?? [10:36] <Godisme> The Zanpakutos have always been interesting, the storyline has its ups and downs but I dont think Kubo has ever really failed to deliver an unique and interesting zanpakuto [10:36] <RenjiLuv2> I'm gonna go. [10:36] <RenjiLuv2> Bye guys [10:36] <The Dark Sorcerer> He is low on idea's [10:36] <SunXia> bye renji and thanks for editing [10:36] <RenjiLuv2> :0 np [10:36] <The Dark Sorcerer> hence why he never revealed chojuro's bankai. [10:36] <Salubri> oh really, remember the sui-feng bankai, we all were like really [10:37] <Salubri> you cant be serious [10:37] <SunXia> i actually thought it was surprising, especially it being so powerful she cant stop the knock back [10:37] <Godisme> Well, yeah, Sui-feng was not the best but it made sense [10:37] <Salubri> it grew on use but really doesnt make sense for her when you think about it [10:37] <Godisme> kind of [10:38] <Salubri> what does that even have to do with her zanpakuto in name or shikai [10:38] <Salubri> its that kind of thinking im worried about [10:38] <SunXia> doesnt make sense for an assassin, but she stated she hated it and found it insulting but i liked the whole preparations she has to go through [10:38] <Salubri> Shunsui going bankai and turning into a power ranger with a dump trunk attached to his back [10:39] <SunXia> lmao [10:39] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Just curious [10:40] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Am I the only one who finds correcting things (such as grammar) fun? [10:40] <Salubri> idk as godisme [10:40] <SunXia> but yeah i think thats one of the fails of Kubo, in creating these characters he should have at least tried to establish everyone's abilities before he got caught up with no where to go but stupid bankais [10:40] <Salubri> i dont do grammar [10:40] <SunXia> i like to correct and fix images [10:40] <Salubri> instead of im going to just wing it [10:41] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I still remember the time that kid in my sixth grade class spelled water wrong [10:41] <Godisme> Kubo loves winging it [10:41] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> ...I was just itching to go and correct it. [10:43] <Salubri> well there is enough there so have it [10:45] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Uh [10:45] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hey God and Sal [10:45] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Thanks for earlier [10:45] <Godisme> np [10:46] <Salubri> no problem i cant stand that guy [10:46] <Godisme> That guy needs to watch his mouth or I am banning him [10:46] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I really appreciate it ^-^ [10:46] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> You guys rock [10:47] <SunXia> you both missed the "Momo is weaker than hundred in her division" convo [10:47] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm so glad I came here [10:47] <Salubri> he was the one saying that momo wasnt qualified to be a lieutenant cause there were more qualified people. So me and Sun and Morhp asked who and he could only come up with people above her. Im like who are these people. How do you know of 5th division members we dont know of [10:48] <Salubri> he just likes making up crap [10:48] <SunXia> yeah he was using that fact that her hero worship suited aizen as being the only reason she was a lieutenant [10:48] <Godisme> I think that he believes that he is capable of reading the manga in a way no one else can [10:48] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> XD [10:49] <Godisme> And that fake respectful attitude he has is so annoying [10:49] <SunXia> and this "everyone in squad 0 is stronger than Yamamoto " is odd too [10:49] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Maybe he has a superpower allowing him to see invisible text? [10:49] <Godisme> You can tell he hates me but always calls me sir [10:49] <Godisme> Yeah, not like it was said the only reason Yama isn't royal guard is because no one could replace him [10:50] <Salubri> im amazed at the level of knowledge he has that we apparently dont have access too, maybe he is kubo or his assisstant [10:50] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Or maybe reading his mind? [10:50] <SunXia> morph was quite shocked i was defending momo lol [10:51] <Godisme> He has been banned from the wiki once, I don't think it will be too long before it happens again [10:51] <Salubri> Momo isnt my favorite character but to say she isnt qualified is inaccurate [10:51] <Godisme> She has clearly shown herself as a capable fighter and very skilled with Kido [10:51] <SunXia> he quite literally needs to learn to take in everything and not iddy biddy bits and cobitme to conclusions that dont agree with the rest of the evidence [10:52] <SunXia> oops come* [10:52] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> He sure is good at finding out things no one else knows though, huh? [10:52] <SunXia> think i needed to refresh [10:53] <SunXia> i see his points but he is ignoring other points [10:53] <SunXia> yes for captains squad 0 is a promotion but you still need high ranked soldiers in SS too [10:54] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I wonder what other hidden words he knows. [10:54] <Salubri> Aizen may have had his reasons for having Momo as his lieutenant but she would have to work her way to that point of recognition among other qualified candidate [10:54] <Salubri> s [10:54] <SunXia> yeah i mean she surprised the Squad 10 lieutenant with her understanding and skill with Kido [10:55] <Godisme> For the life of me, I have no idea why people think that we at Answers think we can tell them who that was in the latest chapter [10:55] <SunXia> even i was surprised with her tactics then [10:55] <SunXia> dont YOU read kubo's mind?? [10:55] <SunXia> well this wiki did cancel the anime [10:55] <Godisme> Yep [10:55] <Godisme> We also won't bring Ulquiorra back [10:56] <Godisme> which people are quite upset with me for [10:56] <SunXia> we killed gin [10:56] <Salubri> i wish i had that power [10:57] <Salubri> if i had that much power oh how many changes would happen in bleach [10:57] <SunXia> lol true [10:57] <Godisme> If I had my way, Aizen would still be the villain :) and he would have never gone through all those hogyoku transformations [10:58] <Salubri> you know i would actually be ok with that [10:58] <Salubri> better then these overpowered vandenreich [10:59] <Godisme> Hmmm, chat has stopped sending my messages [10:59] <Godisme> It must not like me today [11:00] <Salubri> but i dont want an overpowered Aizen either or a all knowing Aizen. He can be real smart and make plans and what not but his plans shouldnt reach over 100 years and be the orchestrator of every thing that ever happened that unrealistic [11:00] <Godisme> I agree [11:00] <Godisme> Aizen as just a highly intelligent planner worked. Aizen as having pulled strings on everything for a hundred years did not [11:01] <Salubri> then we need to pull back the captains and have them fight rarely, keep them nice and mysterious, powerful sitting on the top let the subordinates handle it [11:02] <Salubri> make the fullbring arc about chad, no ichigo getting a fullbring either [11:02] <Godisme> Thats always been one of my problems. the captains fight all the time, but we never see the rank and file do anything but run [11:02] <SunXia> yeah i dont like captains fighting so much in fillers too [11:03] <Godisme> This is supposed to be a military, not a training academy [11:03] <SunXia> fullbring arc would have been sado focused with ichigo feeling helpless when he couldnt help him [11:05] <Salubri> then ichigo starts getting his powers back gradually over the arc while dealing with Kugo [11:05] <SunXia> and yeah that was great about SS arc the little dudes did stuff or tried to before even Kenpachi got involved [11:05] <Godisme> I would have kept Kugo the good guy [11:06] <SunXia> User talk:WhiteStrike?curid=2995&amp;diff=310961&amp;oldid=270996 will be waiting for a while...... [11:07] <Godisme> How did he even find WhiteStrike [11:07] <Salubri> to whitestrike, why would anyone send a message to him [11:08] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Who's that? [11:08] <Salubri> a old old admin [11:08] <Salubri> gone a long time ago [11:08] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> ...Isn't this Yamichidori new? [11:09] <SunXia> yeah why why why [11:09] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> July 7 [11:09] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Well [11:09] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Either he's been lurking here a long time [11:09] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> or he's someone else [11:10] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Can you think of anyone back from that time that would want to get in here now? Maybe someone who was banned back then or something? [11:10] <Godisme> Not really, whitestrike was long gone before chat was even in development [11:11] <Godisme> no one who knows about chat would know about whitestrike [11:11] <Salubri> yea [11:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Perhaps someone who was blocked? [11:11] <Godisme> Whitestrike was gone before I even got here [11:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Wowie [11:11] <SunXia> i remember him from early days [11:11] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> That's odd [11:12] <SunXia> he removed the message though [11:12] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> See, I'm curious if it could be someone who was blocked way long ago [11:12] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I had a guy at DB once. He was banned many months ago and gave himself away because he called some users by their old names. [11:13] <SunXia> we had a guy who was blocked for over a year, came back and continued to do the same stupid things [11:13] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Well sometimes people change... [11:14] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> And sometimes people let their vendetta get the better of them. [11:14] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Some of them are smarter than to start right up again. [11:16] <SunXia> i think the idea to survive around here is to take constructive criticism as something to be intended as improvement, many go all offended and then end up banned when if they had done as guided they might have been good editors later [11:17] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I dunno, contacting an old admin seems really weird for a new user. So either he was lurking, or he was another user here before. [11:17] <SunXia> constructive criticism is not intended as insults [11:17] <SunXia> he might have been looking for a founder or something i dunno [11:19] <SunXia> one little that gets up my nose, are those that go on and on and on and argue over the tiniest little thing they dont agree with and behave as though that one things means the whole wiki is the pits and that they have made some massive contribution by arguing that tiny point into an early grave [11:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Yeah but llooking at this WhiteStrike fellow's profile, it doesn't seem he has the rights anymore. [11:20] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> *looking [11:22] <SunXia> yeah he doesnt, only Arrancar Sal and Yyp are admins with Arrancar and Sal being the crats [11:22] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> So then why contact him...? [11:23] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I have a feeling this guy is probably from around the time back when WhiteStrike was on the team. It just seems like the most likely scenario. [11:26] <SunXia> probably [11:26] <SunXia> it was arrancar and sal who really upped the rules to keep the opinions off the pages and references being needed [11:27] <SunXia> so when i first joined to now the articles are soooooo improved [11:28] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> :) [11:30] <SunXia> do you reckon you will finish bleach?? [11:30] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I thought that might be the better way to go about it [11:31] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> D: Did it show my other comment just now? [11:33] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Well in case it didn't, yeah I think I'm going to read it first [11:34] <SunXia> read then watch yeah??