Talk:Shinji Iijima

Rename
Okay, so Arrancar109, Xil, Sun, Sal, Kuro (who found away around his internet issue via public library for the day), and I have talked this page over and we agree that we should rename this page to "Shinji (student)" to keep in-universe wording. We also noticed the page "Shinji", just Shinji, redirects to Shinji Hirako's page. The people I've talked to also agree that that redirect page should be changed into a disambig. Questions? Comments? Concerns? Complaints? Confusion?
 * While Shinji (Filler) is not the best name, Shinji (student) is not any better. MediaWiki convention in such cases as this would dictate the article be named Shinji (Episode 133). That is proper wiki convention for when a smaller character shares a name with a major character. If in universe wording is what is wanted (even though in universe wording shouldn't be a factor in naming conventions), Shinji (Kendo Fighter) would be better as it is more descriptive and more likely to be searched. As for the disambiguation, MediaWiki convention is to keep the word Shinji as a redirect since 99% of the time, Shinji Hirako is the page they are looking for. Then put on Shinji Hirako's page " Shinji redirects here, for the character from Episode 133, see Shinji (Episode 133) --


 * Eh... a bit neutral on what the page is being renamed to. I think that it could be better off with a rename since (filler) is a little more out-of-universe than it probably should be. I'm not going to agree that (student) is the best change since well, Shinji Hirako was a transfer student to Karakura High School, even if it was just very briefly; renaming it to Shinji (student) would be better, in my opinion.


 * I'm neutral also on making Shinji a disambiguation. Anime-Only Shinji appeared in one episode and is far less significant than the Visored Shinji. Moreover, there are links to both articles on their respective pages (Anime-Only Shinji links to Visored Shinji, vice-versa). So, to be honest, making a disambiguation outta it would be pretty useless in this situation.


 * Now the people I talked to agree that Shinji (Human) is also a possible renaming option.
 * Again, that is not a very descriptive name. Being that he appeared in one episode, in order to find the page, people are going to tack on a description to try and find the page if they want it. Rather than being a relay between here and chat, Kami, why don't people actually use the wiki to discuss things?--
 * Again, that is not a very descriptive name. Being that he appeared in one episode, in order to find the page, people are going to tack on a description to try and find the page if they want it. Rather than being a relay between here and chat, Kami, why don't people actually use the wiki to discuss things?--

God, the issue with this article is it has an out-of-universe wording in its article title, and the title does fall into place as to what content is present when describing the subject in-question. I may not have said anything about it for the longest time, but I've always had a problem with the way the article was titled. I pitched "Shinji (Human)" myself, and another person pitched "Shinji (student)". Heck, I'm in favor of "Shinji (Kendo Student)" over the article being titled something out-of-universe. While none of these names are the finalized choices right now, our policies demand that his article be renamed to something more in-universe. Arrancar109 (Talk)  04:23, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * That's fine, all I said was how about we discuss this in an open place rather than another discussion having zero transparency. Lately more and more discussions are being held on chat between a few people rather than the wiki as a whole and then Kami is sent out to tell everyone what the people on chat decided. We have been making a large push for a while to try and attract more editors here. One of the best ways to do that: transparency. If people can see why a decision was made, they are more likely to accept it rather than just hating us per usual. I tried to bring this up in a forum, but the forum was just left ignored. I don't have a problem with the article being renamed, I just believe it needs a descriptive name rather than a generic one.--