Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner/Archive 11

Hitsugaya's New Techniques
So we have two new techniques for hitsugaya that needs translations.

Ryōjin Hyōheki : 俺が綾陣氷壁で足止めする！ (the kanji is somewhere in this sentence) : Woven Ice Wall? - ch 550

Rokui Hyōketsujin - ch 551 --

Ryōjin hyōheki (綾陣氷壁), assuming the Kanji are correct, means something (as Salubri guessed) like "woven-/shaped-array ice wall"; like I mentioned under the previous chapters' "hollow ice wall" queries, there's no guarantee this is a technique name and not just a description of what the technique does. Usually, if it is intended as a name, we get something like quotes around it, e.g. Sui-Feng's "Mukyū Shunkō".

I don't have a raw for ch. 551 yet, so hopefully I can get it--and so the rest the answers--soon :). Adam Restling (talk) 01:21, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * . By the way, no quotes again. — ЖенёqSig.png 11:49, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the Kanji. Despite the lack of quotes, this one seems more likely (if not confirmed) as an actual technique name, since it uses non-common words and is spoken as kind of a stand-alone thing instead of an explanation. Rokui Hyōketsujin looks to mean "six-clothed ice binding-array", referring to its snare "binding" the target from within the array of six snowflake-like "grid" points. Adam Restling (talk) 10:06, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Error on Resurreción page
For "Fénix" it should read (不滅王 (フェニーチェ), Fenīche, but instead is (憤獣 (イーラ), which is actually Yammy's Ira. Rabukurafuto (talk) 22:04, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter 556
For some reason, the 556 raw isn't out on mangahead yet, but a translated version's already up. In any case, Komamura introduces a new bankai. Well, sort of. It's apparently called "Kokujō Tengen Myōō Dangai Joue" and I'm kinda curious. Anyone? --Reikson (talk) 16:47, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Translations for Ch 551
We have to confirm the translation for bazz-b's techniques and for the kido that Nanao used.

Burner Finger 1 : バーナーフィンガー

Burning Stomp - ch 551

Hakūdan Keppeki

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Burner Finger 1 (バーナーフィンガー1(ワン) Bānā Fingā Wan) looks correct.

I don't have a raw for the rest (chiefly ch. 551); hope to soon :). Adam Restling (talk) 01:04, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * — ЖенёqSig.png 11:39, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * — ЖенёqSig.png 11:39, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * — ЖенёqSig.png 11:39, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again. Looks like the katakana for the "burn" pair are correct. Hakudan Keppeki seems to mean "white severing boundary wall"; the element 結 "fasten, tie, bind" turns up in the frequent-in-manga word kekkai (結界) "barrier" (< "bound world/realm"). I'd guess that since "white" is also often used in the sense we would clear or blank that the reference is to a transparent boundary wall that cuts the caster off from attacks from outside. Adam Restling (talk) 10:00, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter 552 stuff
Another raw, more stuff to translate.

First up: Cang Du's title - The Iron (kana seems to be either シアイアン/Shiaian or ジアイアン/Jiaian, can't tell), from the bottom panel here.

Next is the Shineiyaku pills. I don't have the resources for Kanji typing at my disposal, but it's the top panel here.

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EDIT: Okay..... uh.... don't click those links. Mangahead doesn't seem to like being linked. Anyway, it's pages 3 and 11 of the raw.....

Thanks for the help; and yeah, Mangahead doesn't like teh links. Yep: Cang Du is apparently Sternritter "I": "The Iron" (星十字騎士団 "I" 「鋼鉄」 (シュテルンリッター アイ ジ・アイアン) Shuterunrittā Ai Ji Aian); ji is used to simulate the with its pronunciation before a vowel sound of dhee (rather than thǝ, as occurs before a consonant sound; this is rendered by Japanese za). The underlying Kanji of The Iron (鋼鉄) actually mean "steel" (kōtetsu)--though lit. the compound is "steel" + "iron"; Kubo did a similar thing (if I'm remembering right) with the Arrancars' Hierro which, while Spanish for "iron", had underlying Kanji meaning "steel skin".

Shineiyaku (侵影薬) means "shadow-raiding drug(s)"; specifically, yaku/kusuri covers "drug(s), medicine, medication", etc. Adam Restling (talk) 10:36, October 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's Shin'eiyaku, isn't it? — ЖенёqSig.png 10:56, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

If it has to be; I personally loathe the artificiality of distinguishing mora-closing -n from mora-closing vowel + following mora-opening n- in such a way (an apostrophe or hyphen or whatnot) ;). Adam Restling (talk) 21:05, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

"Shéjìngzhǎo"... or "Shéjìnzhǎo"?
The apparent technique that Cang Du uses in ch. 553 ("Frozen Cross") has the Kanji 蛇勁爪 "snake-strong claw(s)" (read: strong snake claw(s) ?), and the phonetic katakana spelling Shejintsao (シェジンツァオ). The chief problem is, in the intended Mandarin, 勁 could be spelled as either jìng OR jìn, although I *think* the first may be the more common--and both of these would prob. be spelt jin in katakana. So I'm not sure exactly which is the correct, intended spelling. For a smidge more explanation re: this, see here. Also note that one could, informally, drop the tone diacritics and just write the name as Shejin(g)zhao (like the databooks do with Sui-Feng). Adam Restling (talk) 13:45, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Heilig Pfeil
On Yhwach someone copied the wrong katakana for the reading of Heilig Pfeil's Japanese name. It should be ハイリッヒ・プファイル Hairihhi Pufairu but someone wrote ハイリッヒ・ブファイル Hairihhi Bufairu and apparently this is contentious despite the fact that the Japanese pronunciation of other instances of the German word "Pfeil" is Pufairu.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龍 ) 11:03, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Special War Powers
Alright, I looked through the archives and found that the term "Special War Power" was discussed here. In said discussion, Adam said that he wasn't quite sure how to put all of the kanji together at that point. Now, the term we currently use is the one which was used in the speedscans of the chapters it was mentioned in, and as we know, those can be...unreliable, to put it lightly. Hence, my request is this: could you take another look at the kanji and determine a definite term, Adam?

Here's the kanji for reference: 特記戦力

--Xilinoc (talk) 22:28, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

特記戦力 Tokki Senryoku is a combination of tokki, "special mention/notation, notability" (< toku "special, distinct" + ki "account, chronicle, notation") and senryoku "fighting power(s)" (more or less a lit. rendering).

If I were to try another crack at translating it, I think I'd render it "notable/noted fighting power(s)". "Special war power(s)/potential(s)" is just another possible rendering. But this (特記戦力) is an invented and not a commonly used compound (though made up of the two common compounds, 特記 and 戦力), so it's a bit more awkward translating it into an English form both accurate in meaning and not ponderous-looking or -sounding. Adam Restling (talk) 01:33, October 4, 2013 (UTC)