Forum:Grimmjow is a Vasto Lorde?

I think that Grimmjow is a Vasto Lorde because when Arrancar release his zanpakuto he looks like he looked before becoming an arrancar right? And as we all know, Grimmjow looked like a panther as Adjuchas. But when he released his zanpakuto in fight with Kurosaki, he looked more humanoid. So perhaps he really is a Vasto Lorde class. - Ergroilnin

Personally, I think when the Hollows become Arrancar, their releases don't return to look exactly the same as they did when they were Gillians or Adjuchas. I think the reason for his release looking more humaniod than he had as an Adjuchas, then, is due to the Shinigamification, rather than him being a Vasto Lorde. 16:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Well when his Fraciön released they looked exactly like they looked before becoming arrancars Ergroilnin 17:33, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Similar, yes. Identical, no. For example, Shawlong only had half his faced cover, while in the past, the entire face was covered with the slotted face plate. His neck was covered with white armoring, while as an adjuchas, he had grey flesh. He also only has the armor cover his head, arms and upper portion of his chest, rather than radically modifying his entire body so he looked like he did as an adjuchas. For another example, Edrad's Resurrección only cover his arms and his pectorals, leaving his head exposed and his abdomen and legs unchanged, while in the past, his entire chest was covered with white armoring, his face had a mask, and his legs were covered in what appears to be a pale pink fur.

You could say Grimmjow's Resurrección is similar to those two - while his Resurrección looks incredibly similar to the way he looked as an adjuchas, it's not identical, and differences between the two can likely be attributed to the Shinigamification process. Twocents 17:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

To accurately prove the assumption or speculation you would have to have something to go on. In this instance there is nothing we know virtually nothing of vasto lorde so we can't really determine whatst the absolute criteria to affirm that what hollow is one. Besides that fact there are very few in existence (as stated no more then 10), that they are more powerful then a average shinigami captain and that if they were to become arrancar they are more likely to have a humanoid appearance then lesser hollow. Thats about it we realy cant determine anything else especially what one as an arrancar would be like, seeing as there is nothing confirmed on a vasto lorde being one let alone in aizen's army. Having said that I find it extremely unlikely that grimmjaw who was owned by Ichigo, Tosen, and Shinji to be one. He would have to be more powerful then Nnorita whose dead, Ulquiorra whose dead, harribel, barragan whose dead and the most powerful we have seen as well as the king/god of hueco mundo (confirmed in the flashback scene in the next chapter, sorry spoiler) and Starrk. It unlikely cause if thats what a vasto lorde has to offer be it just grimmjaw or grimmjaw and all above him thats sad. Especially considering he is not even high enough to have restriction on his power like the top 4.Salubri 19:21, 27 August 2009 (UTC)