Board Thread:Improvements and Issues/@comment-957629-20190502121436/@comment-26457697-20190517234702

I'm going to speak again, this time as someone who has read the Light Novels countless times over by now. Here are the facts, SunXia.

The light novel, contrary to your erroneous claim, does not contradict anything from the series. I know how you're using it as justification for refusing to accept the novels as canon, but I want it stated, on the record, that that claim is entirely false. I have read this light novel series, all three volumes, several times over. I've gone through discussion forums, discussed it with others who read it, and so on and so forth. There has never once been a moment in the entire three-volume run of CFYOW that contradicts the manga. What CFYOW DOES do, however, is expand on lore and concepts Kubo either did not have time for or simply could not include for whatever reason. I know, these people commenting here know it, reddit knows it, Bleach Brave Souls knows it as someone else pointed out, and Kubo himself acknowledges it. The only, and I repeat, the ONLY, hold-out right now is you guys; the so-called encyclopedia of Bleach content.

If I have it right, this is your reasoning for why you guys don't include CFYOW content. Your claim is that:
 * There is no official translation for the light novels
 * The light novel contradicts canon content
 * They were not written by Kubo

The first point is a load of nonsense. You lot have been updating this wiki with content with fan translations for ages. You did not wait for VIZ to publish official Bleach volumes before adding the content, you added stuff the moment fan sites translated the chapters. You may have had your own translation team at the time, but it doesn't matter; that team is no different than a fan translation. What, next you're gonna tell me they have credentials? You screened them yourself? Went through a whole hiring process to confirm their ability? Simply put, the fact is you guys never once cared where the translation came from, and only now has this come into question. It sounds really shady, if you ask me. I have never seen that template on CFYOW's page anywhere else on the site, saying "this is based on fan translations so do not take it to be fully factual". But never once did I see that sort of template elsewhere. Not even once. Which means it was most likely erected solely for the purpose of isolating CFYOW.

The second point, as I already explained, is also nonsense. If you honestly think the light novel contradicts the manga, then let's see your evidence. I want to actually see every point in the light novel you think contradicts the series. And honestly, SunXia? I'm pretty sure I can prove all of them wrong. I'm certain every single point you present as being a "contradiction" can be disproven by me alone, so please, by all means, bring them forth at once. I really do mean this, I'm not being argumentative on this. I honestly want to see where you think the light novel contradicts the series, because I have read these novels several times over, and I simply have not seen a single one.

The third point is the only leg with which you have any hope of standing on. Yes, I will concede there. Kubo did not personally write the light novels. However, that does not change the facts. Kubo gave Narita the lore and character content with which to write this novel. You may have a point when you say "well we can't know for sure which parts were given by Kubo and which were not", and yes, that is true enough. But there ARE specific points that we know for sure Kubo did give to Narita. Namely, the Bankai for Hisagi and Hirako, which Kubo himself designed and wrote. This much was confirmed by Narita, and by Kubo himself, in both tweets and in the interview from Bleach JET. Furthermore, in regards to the large reveals, like the Original Sin, which make up the entire basis for the CFYOW novels, you cannot say this didn't come from Kubo. There is no way Narita took that many liberties. He may have taken liberties by saying Muramasa is the Kuchiki clan's family Zanpakuto, or by canonizing Arazome Shigure, but when it comes to such an all-encompassing concept as the Original Sin and the Soul King, you cannot reasonably call that questionable.

With that said, that means that every single point you make in regards to why CFYOW should not be documented as regular Bleach content is completely moot. You literally have no leg to stand on, besides... most likely, some kind of personal bias. And I really hope that is not the case, because that would make you all out to be extremely unprofessional.

I genuinely think you all forgot something very important. You need to remember that Bleach wiki is not for you. From the moment you lot took on the responsibility of maintaining a canon wiki for a series, you became civil servants for the Bleach community. Your job is to document the Bleach series, not rule what 'is Bleach' and what 'is not Bleach'. You let fans decide for themselves. If you're so worried about what fans might think, that is why references exist, SunXia. Whatever content you add to the pages that you are worried people will mistake for being manga content, you just add the CFYOW reference to it. It's that simple. And I can only believe you guys refuse to do this because you have a personal bias against the light novels. Whether it be manga, anime, light novels, games, or whatever, if it is Bleach, then it should be documented on the Bleach Wiki. You guys are not the Bleach Manga Wiki. You are the Bleach Wiki. People come here for Bleach content, regardless of its source. If the job is too hard for you, then pass the reins over to someone else. Someone who actually wants to give the Bleach community what they are looking for, instead of imposing their own interpretation of what is or is not Bleach.

And to end, I want to add one last thing. Despite all your claims for respecting canon and all that, I want to remind you, and everybody else here, that when the Burn the Witch one-shot came out, you guys did not wait for confirmation that it was indeed part of the Bleach universe. In fact, for a while, it was believed by a great majority that Kubo only teased the Bleach connections only as a homage to his original series. It was not until the Bleach JET interview that Kubo did indeed confirm Burn the Witch takes place within the Bleach universe. I do not remember anybody having issues there. Nobody from you admins were concerned about 'is this canon' or 'is this Bleach content'. So right there is proof of some kind of bias you guys have toward CFYOW.