Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27565137-20160415174609/@comment-26091912-20160429081911

Wri-El wrote:

Quincy cross... The same quincy cross the sternritters haven't been using. That cross?! Also Ichigo could actually learn from the quincy manifestation of his powers, something that most likely normal quincies can't.

All Quincy use a cross. Yeah, we haven't been shown the Sternritter using it every single time they draw their weapon, but you have to ask yourself: If they can create weapons without one, why do the Quincy have one in the first place?

While Ichigo could learn it, it would be redundant. He's already a Shinigami with his own Zanpakuto which can fire Getsuga Tensho and Getsuga Jujisho. Besides, he's terrible at Reishi manipulation; he can barely create Reishi footholds, let alone create bows and arrows.

His Hollow form was proof that if Ichigo was allowed full control over his powers (which he now has since Old Man relinquished his control) he could most likely use all the powers of a hollow, Resurreccion included.

Except Resurreccion is a strictly Arrancar transformation. An Arracar accesses their true power by releasing their Zanpakuto, and entering their true form. Unless it's like a Tosen situation, I can't see it happening at all.

We now know that Ichigo initial Zangetsu zanpakutou was never Zangetsu to begin with. Most likely is was a creation of Old Man in order to keep the facade that Ichigo was using shinigami powers when in fact he wasn't. Old Man words have to be taken into account and not simply dismissed. He said that up until that point, when Oetsu basically pointed out to Ichigo he was being fooled by Old Man, Ichigo had only used but a small fraction of his true shinigami/hollow powers. If he was only allowed to use but a fraction, then how can anyone say for certain that what we saw him use was a shikai and bankai? For all we know only now in this final arc we're gonna see Zangetsu true shikai and bankai forms.

No, he made it quite clear that Ichigo's inner Hollow was the real Zangetsu. The Zanpakuto he wielded was inherited from his inner Hollow, nothing Quincy related. The Old Man was merely pretending to be his primary Zanpakuto spirit, when he actually wasn't. Not that it matters, they both are, and we're originally one to begin with. Power, in the sense of spiritual power, not abilities, is what he meant.

What about it?? He used a bankai technique while in Shikai or whatever. Doesn't that raise any questions to you?

It's more to do with his inner Hollow than Bankai. He even admitted that he learnt it from his inner Hollow, so the fact that he can fire black Getsuga with his larger blade just shows that it's his inner Hollow's attack.

Do you honestly believe that Getsuga Tenshou is Ichigo Shikai real power? Don't you want Ichigo shikai powers to be something else, something more elaborate, cooler?

Like what?