Talk:Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck

Well actually Nel's attack "Lanzador Verde" in spanish means "green thrower" but is probably a misstranslation of spanish to japanese, for the name to actually mean "green lancer" the spanish would be "Lanza Verde"
 * Actually no lanza means Lance or spear thus "Lanza Verde" would mean Green Lance not Lancer also Lanzado could also be translated as spearman thus the name could also be green spearman WhiteStrike 23:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Move?
Not that I agree or disagree, but shouldn't we have discussed this first, or does nobody mind? Arrancar109 17:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't mind. Dekoshu talk contrib 17:41, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm SO SORRY!!!
i should have said something first before i did it. i'm really sorry. next time i will ask before i move a page. but i thought in order to move something you need approval. i'm so stupid. from your dumb pal--Kisukeiscool100396 20:47, 17 March 2009 (UTC) It's all right. Dekoshu talk contrib 20:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Original Form
Ok Nelial is my favorite Arrancar by far so the question i would pose is. If Orihime heals her hollow mask will she go back to normal? She would be a great asset to restoring some peaceful order in hueco mundo to keep the other possible pocket coalitions of arrancar in line if she took control after aizens departure. It just seems kinda silly to leave her as a kid, when she is so much powerful and skilled as an adult. She is the only level headed and honorable Arrancar, she doesnt give in to bloodshed or cruel acts. It makes you wonder how she became a hollow and what was she like before being an arrancar. Salubri 20:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Name Change
Apparently on a official Japanese card her name has 3 L's in it. so the question is should her profile be changed to reflect that? Along with that is the translation correct or is the card even admissible as an actual source? Your thoughts?Salubri 14:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I don't like the spelling with 3 L's, because it would require changing many articles, and that takes a lot of time. But the card game could be just as liable a source as the video games, and we used "Jeagerjaques" and "Schiffer" for a long time, until volume 38 was released. I guess it somewhat depends on what some of the other contributors think. Arrancar109 16:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Im in agreement about the change, it seems kinda unnecessary, all that change for one more L. I get the reliable source thing but really a card game and video game are like secondary and for the most part non-canon. we only recently changed grimmjow and ulquiorra and like you stated it was behind the fact that kibo actually wrote them that way and that was from notes attached to the manga. So all in all I say no. Salubri 17:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I just want the spamming to stop over such a pointless issue. Vinak963 03:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Ha-ha! I agree. It isn't nesessary until Kubo says something himself. HuecoMuffin 15:44, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

so would the spelling be "Nelliel Tu Oderschvank" or "Neliell Tu Oderschvank"--Kisukeiscool100396 18:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Rank?
Should Nel Tu be considered a privaron espada since she used to be an espada? I don't think they've said that in the series, but it makes since, doesn't it? And I'm not suggesting we include any sort of speculation in the article, I'm just asking a question. Darth Havoc 03:28, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I would say no. Privaron Espada have had their ranks taken away from them to make room for more power. Neliel was not kicked out, she was ambused and thrown into Hueco Mundo. - HuecoMuffin 23:43, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Privaron Espada are actually Hollow who attained Arrancar state naturally unlike the artificial ones made by Aizen, it was proven they are less powerful then the artificial ones and were removed from their former positions as espada to make room for the artificially made ones with more power. The Espada seem to gain and loose rank for a number of things such as losing honor or just not being powerful enough to hold on to their position when faced against another Espada or contender for the position. Grimmjaw briefly lost his position but was just considered the former 6th Espada for a time because he technically isnt privaron as he is not a natural arrancar or even formally kicked out. Salubri 04:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

The deffinition Ichimaru gave in Arrancar Research Time was that privaron espada are just former espada. There was nothing mentioned about them having to be natural arrancar; that's just what all of them have been so far. Darth Havoc 05:49, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, Nnoitra pretty much betrayed Neliel and turned her into a kid. If Aizen knew (not sure if he does), he would probably know that Neliel reverted into a child form as well, and she really wouldn't be useful to him anyway. Arrancar109 05:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, Dordonii stated that he and the other Privaron were created naturally. - HuecoMuffin 2:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)