Bleach Wiki:Chat/January 16, 2013

 [10:26]  Hi Mad Nation, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [10:27]  I read the rules, I have 10 edits @Bot [10:36]  Hi Jushiro971, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [10:45]  Hai God [11:03]  Hi Mad Nation, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [11:25]  Hi IchitoraZangetsu, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [11:26]  Hi Jushiro. [11:26]  Hai [11:27]  How big of a Bleach fan are you on a scale from 1-10? [11:27]  IchitoraZangetsu, you need 10 article edits to be here [02:27]  Hi KuroAshi98, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [02:29]  Hai K [02:43]  Hai J~ [02:54]  Hi MalwareGuru, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [03:07]  Hi Kevin Jetpack, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [04:09] <Godismebot> Hi Mohrpheus, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [04:10] <KuroAshi98> Hai Morph~ [04:10] <Godismebot> Oh hey, when did people get in here? [04:10] <Godismebot> Kuro, how many bottles of beer are left on your wall? [04:10] <Mohrpheus> Hello Kuro. And God. [04:10] <KuroAshi98> I've been here for almost two hours... [04:10] <KuroAshi98> And too many!! :'( [04:11] <Godismebot> ...I don't look at this screen enough [04:11] <Mohrpheus> Take one down, pass it around. [04:12] <Godismebot> Kuro had 3 million bottles of beer on his wall [04:13] <Mohrpheus> All relationships are off the wiki, right? [04:13] <Godismebot> Yes [04:13] <Godismebot> Should be at least [04:14] <Mohrpheus> Alright. Deleting that massive eyesore from the Numeros page then. Not really all that relevant anyway [04:15] <Godismebot> Kurosaki Family Hmmm, I never knew we had this article [04:16] <Mohrpheus> Oh wow. Seems a little... [04:16] <Godismebot> Yeah [04:16] <Mohrpheus> Eh. Handled fine as a category. [04:17] <Godismebot> Grrr, tf2op is down [04:17] <Godismebot> I need keys! [04:17] <Mohrpheus> Ah, Sal made it. [04:17] <Mohrpheus> Wait, last year? Oh wow. [04:17] <Godismebot> Well then, it is never coming down then [04:18] <Godismebot> We should have one for the Ishida family as well, considering we know about them as well [04:19] <Mohrpheus> So that would mean one for the Shibas, the Kuchikis, etc etc? [04:19] <Mohrpheus> Wait, they do have one [04:20] <Godismebot> Yep [04:20] <Mohrpheus> It really seems unnecessary. We already have categories for this kind of thing. [04:21] <Godismebot> I sort of agree with pages for the noble families [04:21] <Godismebot> As they have actual traditions and stuff [04:21] <Godismebot> Kurosaki family is not needed [04:22] <Mohrpheus> True. I suppose that means the Noble Families page could be watered down a bit. [04:24] <Godismebot> These damn sliders take forever to make [04:26] <Godismebot> Hi Salubri, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [04:32] <KuroAshi98> So, after EV'ing around 5-6 Pokemon, I can honestly say - I see very little difference lol [04:33] <Godismebot> Its the difference between base attack and max attack [04:33] <Godismebot> Of course, if you want truly perfect pokemon, you have to IV them as well, but thats ridiculous [04:34] <Mohrpheus> Yeah. You usually see those the most on simulators. [04:34] <Mohrpheus> Otherwise there's some nonsensically complicated way of doing it. [04:35] <Mohrpheus> Usually involves many generations of breeding. [04:35] <Godismebot> Or random number generators [04:36] <KuroAshi98> Lol yeah, I knew IV's were a factor [04:36] <KuroAshi98> But still, I usually get these results when training them normally :P [04:36] <Mohrpheus> Are they at level 100? [04:36] <KuroAshi98> Yeah [04:37] <Godismebot> Then you are unknowingly EV training [04:37] <Godismebot> In essence, all EV training is, is killing a bunch of the same pokemon repeatedly [04:39] <KuroAshi98> Lol I had a feeling that was the case, seeing as I train all my Pokemon from Lvl. 1 to 100 manually. :P No RC cheating.... [04:40] <Mohrpheus> You'd have to compare stats to be sure, really. [04:40] <Mohrpheus> And it's hard to tell the difference when the base Pokemon was strong to begin with :P [04:40] <Mohrpheus> [04:41] <Mohrpheus> Hm. I wonder if I'll be able to transfer my EV'd Pokes to Y... [04:41] <KuroAshi98> Ah well, 6 Pokemon down - another 24 to go~ [04:42] <KuroAshi98> They better introduce a transfer system that goes both ways again. It's annoying as hell that we basically lose half our teams [04:42] <KuroAshi98> Do the Gen I - II system, only Pokemon Gen I recognises can be returned. [04:44] <Godismebot> Its stupid that there is no trading between generations [04:44] <KuroAshi98> Ah well, I doubt I'll be getting XY on release. I don't even own a 3DS and it's not really worth buying a new handheld for just one game. :P [04:46] <Godismebot> I bought my 3ds for KH3D [04:49] <Godismebot> Its a pretty decent system and if you can find a used one, id recommend it [04:52] <KuroAshi98> Lol well I'll wait and see what people say about the new one, and if it's worth it I'll give it a go lol [04:52] <KuroAshi98> 3DS's a super cheap now anyway [04:53] <KuroAshi98> Seeing as it technically bombed :p [04:53] <Godismebot> Its a DS plus 3D technology [04:53] <Godismebot> Most people turn off the 3D, so they did not buy it [04:56] <KuroAshi98> I'll just see how it goes, cause right now I'm really not interested in XY [04:56] <KuroAshi98> Bloody Froakie lol [05:01] <Godismebot> Hi Kamikaze839, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [05:01] <Kamikaze839> hi guys [05:01] <Godismebot> Hi Lemursrule, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [05:02] <Lemursrule> hey [05:02] <Lemursrule> waiting for spoilers what are you guys doing [05:02] <Kamikaze839> should be getting to bed [05:03] <Lemursrule> okay night kami [05:03] <Kamikaze839> I'm procrastinating on getting to sleep [05:04] <Mohrpheus> New chapter tomorrow? [05:04] <Lemursrule> manga panda said so on twitter a few hours ago [05:05] <Kamikaze839> I'm looking through the wiki activity, and found a guy who thought it was a good idea to solicit money on a wikia [05:05] <Kamikaze839> and put it in viet [05:06] <Lemursrule> heh [05:06] <Kamikaze839> $250k is worth far more than the amount in vietnamese currency he put down on his post [05:06] <KuroAshi98> Yeah, should be another 4-5 hours [05:07] <Kamikaze839> 250 in US dollars [05:07] <Kamikaze839> wait no I read that post wrong, he is supposedly giving away money [05:08] <Lemursrule> I am waiting to see what Shueshia will do next, because sja and wsj starting next monday will be released on the same day, so how much longer are we going to get the chapter before the street date? [05:08] <Mohrpheus> Next chapter should be interesting. I just have that feeling. :/ [05:08] <Kamikaze839> yeah [05:08] <Lemursrule> I feel it too morph, usually Kubo has a good chapter the first jump back [05:09] <KuroAshi98> Hey, my hope is they'll make it international soon :P [05:09] <Mohrpheus> I'd consider SJA if there were more than three series I follow [05:10] <Lemursrule> The editors said they were intending to, I would not be surpassed if its international by the end of 2013, since it took them less than a year to simulcast the same day [05:10] <Lemursrule> surprized [05:11] <Mohrpheus> It's about time, really [05:11] <KuroAshi98> A whole year now...? *cries* [05:11] <Lemursrule> Its Shueshia's decision though, Viz is merely the american branch so the only have rights to the us and canada [05:11] <Godismebot> Did that SJA app hit android yet? [05:11] <Mohrpheus> To be honest, I'd still like to hear super official confirmation on their romanizations. [05:11] <Lemursrule> I believe it did [05:12] <Lemursrule> not sure though [05:12] <Lemursrule> it will be free with one or two stupid ad banners, but thats what we have on manga panda now so it really isn't that different [05:13] <Kamikaze839> I checked the droid market, it's up there [05:13] <Mohrpheus> Ooh. That's cool. I'm fine with ads unless they waste 30 seconds of my life. [05:13] <Lemursrule> Basically from what I understand their romanizations are what Shueshia tells them to put and things like "Halibel" are kept that way for the sake of continuity [05:13] <Mohrpheus> That's my understanding [05:14] <Kamikaze839> the app's permissions are shady though [05:14] <Lemursrule> basically they don't want you to repost crap on manga sites [05:15] <Kamikaze839> I doubt it morph [05:16] <Mohrpheus> That's a shame. [05:16] <Lemursrule> I thought about Neon Alley, but I really don't have to time to watch live let alone streaming anime [05:16] <Lemursrule> I know shueshia has basically a japanese version of jump alpha with chapters released on an app two days later [05:17] <Lemursrule> which is in both the app and android store I believe [05:17] <Mohrpheus> Hm. I've been giving Hungry Joker a chance. It seems, eh. I don't know what word to use. [05:17] <Lemursrule> Japan only though unless you have a Japanese account [05:18] <Lemursrule> Hungry Joker? [05:18] <Mohrpheus> I think that's what it's called. Newer manga series. [05:19] <Lemursrule> you mean Toriko or something else? [05:19] <KuroAshi98> http://www.kongregate.com/games/capricorngames/jumpingline Fun game~ [05:19] <KuroAshi98> I picked up one of Jump's newer series, Shinmai Fukei Kiruko-san [05:20] <KuroAshi98> Pretty cool stuff [05:20] <Lemursrule> ill check it out [05:21] <Mohrpheus> http://www.mangapanda.com/hungry-joker [05:22] <KuroAshi98> Plus its wiki is dead, so free project for me lol [05:22] <Mohrpheus> I wonder what's gonna end up replacing Naruto. [05:22] <Lemursrule> Morph sounds a little too deadman-esque to me [05:23] <Godismebot> Ten days or so until Deadman returns [05:23] <Lemursrule> yep can't wait [05:23] <KuroAshi98> The green-haired one even looks like a Deadman character :p [05:24] <KuroAshi98> Some mangaka got tired of the hiatus so he made his own series xD [05:24] <Godismebot> copyright violation or not? [05:24] <Lemursrule> nope its good [05:25] <Lemursrule> the fair use code or whatever says you can use up to 30 seconds of copyright material [05:25] <Mohrpheus> Never read Deadman before. The premise is hardly original though. [05:25] <Godismebot> Read deadman [05:25] <Godismebot> its fantastic [05:26] <Godismebot> gory and psychotic as hell [05:27] <Mohrpheus> I do tend to avoid series I find too similar to ones I like. That's why I never bothered with D. Gray Man or Soul Eater or whatnot. [05:27] <Lemursrule> Deicide is the only arc Pierrot didn't screw up on in my opinion [05:27] <Mohrpheus> Deicide was excellent. [05:28] <Lemursrule> In hindsight, I think Deicide was where the arrancar arc kind of redeemed itself for me, it was so different and dark and set a lot of things up for this arc [05:29] <Mohrpheus> The arc bored me pre-Hueco Mundo to be honest. [05:30] <Godismebot> It wasnt interesting until the final day of the arc [05:30] <Lemursrule> yeah the aizen evolution was ridiculous, and some characters risked everything and lost, that means a lot to me and Kubo said something about Rangiku coming up in this arc so I wonder what he is doing with her in this arc [05:30] <Mohrpheus> She is one of the Bankai hopefuls, I believe. [05:30] <Godismebot> Well, you know Kubo, if a character is meant to play a role in an arc, it means they will never be seen [05:31] <Godismebot> Kubo said if he gave Bankai to anyone, it would likely be Yumichika [05:31] <Godismebot> Which would be cool [05:31] <Lemursrule> I have a feeling she will have Bankai, because she really has been a prominent side character, so it would not be surpising [05:31] <Lemursrule> and Yumichika's bankai would be awesome [05:31] <Godismebot> Hi SunXia, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [05:31] <Lemursrule> sun [05:31] <Godismebot> She said she was trying to learn Bankai [05:31] <Godismebot> But Haineko was too stubborn [05:32] <SunXia> oh i hope she doesnt learn it otherwise its not the rare level we were led to believe in SS arc [05:32] <SunXia> and hey [05:33] <Lemursrule> which I think has to do with whatever energy or whatever was stolen, and perhaps she has personal issues that she can't trust her zanpakuto, which would make sense since a lot of the people in her life betrayed her trust [05:33] <Mohrpheus> I am still wondering about that. If it could still be relevant since the Hougyoku is still around. [05:33] <Lemursrule> I mean its been hinted for while the Rangiku had some hidden power [05:34] <Mohrpheus> Well, I don't know about that. But she certainly had enough to survive whatever they did to her. Other souls just got destroyed completely. [05:34] <Lemursrule> Sorry to say god, but Aizen while somehow loose his immortality and die before the end of the series, because no one would take him back [05:34] <Lemursrule> hopefully Aizen might redeem himself [05:35] <Godismebot> Aizen needs to just kill everyone [05:35] <Mohrpheus> His redemption has already been set up, unfortunately. The chances of Ichigo's speculation being BS is not likely. [05:35] <SunXia> redeem?? [05:35] <SunXia> are we wanting bleach to have a magneto character then?? [05:35] <Godismebot> Mohrph, I thought that was confirmed in one of the databooks? [05:35] <Lemursrule> I don't think Aizen is completely evil, just misguided…very misguided [05:35] <Mohrpheus> Not as far as I know. [05:35] <Lemursrule> Kubo likes xmen so its possible [05:35] <KuroAshi98> I reckon Bleach should have Magneto [05:35] <KuroAshi98> That's a crossover I can support :P [05:36] <Mohrpheus> That'd be a huge oversight on our part if it were. [05:36] <SunXia> oh SHIT [05:36] <Godismebot> ? [05:36] <SunXia> i just remembered what random multiple arm girl said that aizen was evil but these guys are eviler [05:36] <SunXia> NO no redemption [05:36] <SunXia> no want [05:36] <Godismebot> what? [05:36] <Godismebot> multiple arm girl? [05:37] <Mohrpheus> Senjumaru. [05:37] <SunXia> the royal guard [05:37] <Godismebot> ah [05:37] <Lemursrule> I don't the think the royal guard are being completely honest with Ichigo [05:37] <Lemursrule> is [05:37] <Godismebot> I think the Royal Guard clearly have their own agenda [05:37] <Godismebot> I dont think they will turn out to be evil like everyone wants, but I dont think they are necessarily there to help soul society [05:37] <Lemursrule> Aizen being "Evil" is too simple, why would they just randomly bring him up [05:37] <Mohrpheus> Well, Hidetomo (?)'s words did seem to imply that the Quincy's actions are at least somewhat justified. [05:38] <Godismebot> I mean, the Shinigami slaughtered the Quincy 200 years ago [05:38] <Lemursrule> Yes Aizen has done terrible, despicable acts of evil, but I still think he did what he did out of good intentions [05:38] <Godismebot> and as we are all guessing, there was likely a lot more to that than we know [05:38] <SunXia> ok more make up brushes arrive yesterday, this might be an obsession [05:38] <Lemursrule> just his approach was not the best [05:38] <SunXia> good intentions??? [05:38] <SunXia> he wanted to dethrone soul king [05:38] <Mohrpheus> Aizen apparently saw the Soul King, before. That's probably the most important detail. [05:38] <SunXia> and kill lots in karakura town [05:39] <Salubri> last i check it wasnt the royal guards job to help soul society [05:39] <Godismebot> Nope [05:39] <SunXia> thats gotei 13 [05:39] <SunXia> their job [05:39] <Lemursrule> because the soul king is obviously evil (at least in Aizen's view) that the soul king let acts of evil go bye and did nothing to help people [05:39] <Godismebot> Thats why I say they have their own agenda [05:39] <Salubri> maybe so but then again who doesnt [05:40] <KuroAshi98> Aizen knew about the surviving Quincy, and anticipating a revenger-war he experimented in ways to strengthen the Shinigami against the threat. [05:40] <KuroAshi98> Hollowfication, Kido, Hogyoku. All methods that could leave them at an advantage in the face of Juhabach. :P [05:40] <Lemursrule> The whole point of bleach is the irony of black and white not being a reality of the world, its a grey area, so having the royal guard being saints would contradict everything [05:40] <SunXia> i did have a more awesome image in my head of them [05:40] <Godismebot> Kubo needs to stop with the buffing characters up for a while and get to the history [05:40] <SunXia> lol Kuro [05:41] <Salubri> not evil, Aizen views him in his view as unnatural, what that is we dont know, apparently he has issue with not really "ruling". [05:41] <SunXia> yeah he does kinda hide a lot [05:41] <SunXia> and let so many souls live in squalor [05:41] <Mohrpheus> Well, to be honest, I do appreciate that these powerups are being done in a timely manner so far. [05:42] <Godismebot> I think at this point what we need is the history of the Quincy and the Quincy massacre 200 years ago and what really went on [05:42] <Lemursrule> Exactly so this is how its going to be, Aizen wanted to change the world for the better and he figured he was destined to save soul society and he would do it by any means necessary [05:42] <Godismebot> Because right now the Vandenreich have no motivation. I don't know why they are doing this, I dont care about them as villains right now [05:43] <KuroAshi98> I think we just need Ishida to turn up. [05:43] <KuroAshi98> I mean, the arc's meant to be about him haha [05:43] <Lemursrule> Its obvious the Kubo is setting up for the soul king to be the big bad [05:43] <KuroAshi98> What has he done so far? [05:43] <KuroAshi98> Eat bread? xD [05:43] <Godismebot> I highly highly doubt that Lemurs [05:43] <Godismebot> I have heard that theory for years and it makes no sense to me [05:43] <SunXia> sado did nothing in the FB arc [05:43] <Salubri> no aizen wasnt gonna save anyone, he was gonna rule his way, very actively like a tyrant [05:44] <Salubri> you see how he treats those below him [05:44] <Lemursrule> I have a gut feeling, Bach just does not feel final to me, just something seems off [05:44] <Mohrpheus> Well, we still don't know what encompasses "ruling." All we've seen from the King is sitting his ass in his cocoon all day [05:44] <Lemursrule> yeah so how much better or worse would have Aizen been, we don't know at this point [05:44] <Salubri> as far as soul king being bad, i dont find it likely, its based on interpretation, if anything the soul king seems largely indifferent [05:45] <Salubri> which could be the real problem [05:45] <Lemursrule> plus we know nothing on how Aizen became a soul reaper or much backstory on him at all [05:45] <Lemursrule> like I said aizen "believes" he's bad or unnatural [05:46] <SunXia> oh god NO dont Emo-size aizen PLEASE Kubo i cant take it after tobi [05:46] <Mohrpheus> I do think he was working towards a greater goal of some sort. He kept speaking of how the world "should be." [05:46] <Lemursrule> Do I think Aizen will be Jesus…no, but I can see him as being an anti-hero [05:46] <Mohrpheus> I'm sure he had some plan beyond "I want to sit on the throne." [05:46] <Salubri> the problem is that world is according to his interpretation [05:47] <Lemursrule> Thats what I think [05:47] <Lemursrule> well yeah thats an issue sal [05:47] <Lemursrule> but still aizen believed in his mind he was doing good and correcting the world [05:47] <Salubri> if anything, If juhabach isnt the final it will likely come full circle back to Aizen, which would mean something would cause his ultimate destruction, hogyoku or not. [05:48] <Salubri> it was never good, who was it good for, him [05:48] <Godismebot> I could see Aizen having planned for the Quincy to invade in order to set him free [05:49] <Godismebot> Hi Mohrpheus, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [05:49] <Lemursrule> it could go either way, but having Aizen being pure evil is too convent at this point. Aizen is obviously a deluded individual, and thought he was doing good, but did it at the expense of those around him [05:49] <Godismebot> Its not that he is pure evil, its that he likes control and wants to reshape things to how he likes it [05:50] <Godismebot> If he was pure evil, his goal would be the Vandenreich's - slaughter everyone [05:50] <Mohrpheus> I don't see Aizen trying to reenact his plan. [05:50] <Godismebot> Instead, his goal is simply to rule [05:50] <Lemursrule> exactly he's a megalomaniac [05:50] <Salubri> aizen will never be an anti-hero or anything like that, he has no redemption theres too much he has done to everyone that cant be redeemed. No one would forgive him but Momo, this wasnt little stuff Lemure [05:50] <KuroAshi98> Hungry Joker - and by the third page a woman's breasts become the object of conversation~!! [05:50] <Godismebot> Kuro has a new favorite series [05:50] <Lemursrule> hahah [05:51] <SunXia> breasts..... [05:51] <Lemursrule> oh noes [05:52] <Mohrpheus> - [05:52] <Lemursrule> regardless of Aizen. Having Bach as the villain kind of goes against bleach's past setups. Example: SS Arc we thought Gin was the enemy, yet Aizen turn out to be the real antagonist [05:52] <Lemursrule> Lost Shinigami arc we thought Tsukishima was the villain yet Ginjou turned out to be the real antagonist (well sort of). Just going by past patterns [05:53] <Salubri> i never thought Gin was the bad guy [05:53] <Mohrpheus> Well, maybe that's exactly why he should be the villain. [05:53] <Lemursrule> true [05:53] <KuroAshi98> No no, I just think it's funny [05:53] <KuroAshi98> It's like the generation of fanfic writers are finding actual jobs [05:53] <Godismebot> The real villain is:.... Zennosuke [05:53] <SunXia> gin was a clear red harrin [05:53] <SunXia> *herring [05:54] <Salubri> Actually Tsukishima was still the bad guy it was just unknown at the point so was everyone else in xcution [05:54] <KuroAshi98> Cause usually in a fanfic they always draw attention to how big the female protag's boobs are [05:54] <Lemursrule> Kubo just has a pattern of deception so why would he change his style 12 years later [05:54] <KuroAshi98> As if the drawings didn't tip us off lol [05:54] <Lemursrule> true sal [05:54] <Godismebot> To avoid becoming predictable [05:54] <Godismebot> Thats why [05:54] <Salubri> if anything the thing we are missing is whats Juhabach's motive [05:54] <Lemursrule> so i'm wondering if Bach is a red herring too [05:55] <Mohrpheus> I am suspicious of Hashvalt or whatnot. [05:55] <Godismebot> That is wat I have been saying, Sal [05:55] <Salubri> we dont know thats whats throwing us off, i cant speak for you guys but i already know whatever it is doesnt justify remotely what he is doing [05:55] <Salubri> for me [05:55] <Lemursrule> that I agree with sal [05:55] <Godismebot> I think there is far more to the Shinigami - Quincy relations than we know of [05:56] <Lemursrule> obviously [05:56] <SunXia> in the end bach killed Yamamoto hes more than just a red herring [05:56] <Lemursrule> like any government or organization they don't release everything to the public [05:56] <SunXia> unless someone pretended to be him again [05:56] <Mohrpheus> I am still wondering if there was a point where the Dangai never existed. [05:56] <Salubri> back to Kubo he has placed to many inconsistencies and plot holes for a while now, its not really coming together in this arc it seems disjointed, maybe he really is tired of the series [05:56] <Godismebot> There was a third brother! [05:56] <Lemursrule> which is entirely possible [05:57] <Mohrpheus> tomorrow [05:57] <Mohrpheus> Lloyd Lloyd. [05:57] <Godismebot> lol [05:57] <Lemursrule> lol [05:57] <Salubri> it happens to writers sometimes they just arent inspired by the series any longer. [05:58] <Salubri> No their brother is Boyd Lloyd [05:58] <Lemursrule> or barry bonds [05:58] <KuroAshi98> I like this kid's naming logic. [05:58] <KuroAshi98> Giant, mutated monster-corpse. [05:58] <KuroAshi98> "I'll name him James!" [05:58] <Mohrpheus> I think he just tried something new to inject crisis into the series, and ended up overdoing it. [05:58] <Salubri> ill tell you one thing the gorty guy has one more week after that all his pics gotta go, he has never edited on this site and he's been here since dec 28th [05:59] <SunXia> hahaha Royd and Loyd doesnt one of those letters not exist in Japanese [05:59] <SunXia> THANK YOU SAL [05:59] <SunXia> hate when people just edit their user page [05:59] <Godismebot> Frankly, I have been far more interested in FT than Bleach for the past few months [05:59] <Godismebot> I already told Gorty to start editing the wiki [05:59] <Godismebot> So if he doesnt want to edit, he can go to the fan fiction wiki [05:59] <Salubri> me too, i wonder why erza lied to kagura though [06:00] <Godismebot> To protect Jellal obviously [06:00] <Godismebot> I mean the girl is in love [06:00] <SunXia> shall watch ncis if FT talking [06:00] <Salubri> kagura cant hurt Jellal, i mean really come on [06:00] <Godismebot> Sorry Sun [06:00] <Mohrpheus> Well, didn't what's his face die to protect her? [06:00] <Godismebot> Simon [06:00] <Mohrpheus> That cliche crap where characters are insecure with their own weakness. [06:00] <Salubri> yea he killed himself [06:01] <Godismebot> Wasnt he in love with Erza? [06:02] <Godismebot> But yeah, Erza is madly in love with Jellal, she would do anything to protect him [06:02] <Godismebot> Even though Jellal could likely crush Kagura with his pinky [06:03] <KuroAshi98> Damn it Morph [06:03] <KuroAshi98> Hungry Joker is actually pretty cool [06:03] <Salubri> i just dont like how that played out though, I dont doubt that Kagura is good like Grey level good but i dont think she is Erza good, we have seen Erza with her skill and level for a while now, i find Kagura's level to be B.S. besides Fairy Tail needs to win this championship or else they cant continue as a guild. Hence why i knew Natsu would beat sting and rouge no matter how supposedly powerful they were [06:04] <Mohrpheus> I think Quatro Puppy is going to win. [06:04] <Godismebot> I think Kagura is definitely on Erza's level. Erza is strong but Kagura has not even unsheathed her sword yet [06:04] <Godismebot> I think Mashima's intention with her from the beginning was to create a foil to Erza [06:06] <Salubri> i think the fact that her greatest asset is releasing a sword proves she is below Erza besides if she was as good she would have a reputation like all powerful wizards do. [06:06] <Godismebot> From what I understand, Mermaid Heel is a relatively recently formed guild [06:06] <Mohrpheus> Well, they've been gone for a while. I doubt they know much about everything anymore. [06:07] <Godismebot> Kagura has likely never been in the spotlight before [06:07] <Godismebot> And don't forget, Kagura also has gravity magic [06:07] <Salubri> yet during the entire tournament everyone else is recognized and she is only recognized as a mage of mermaid heel [06:08] <Godismebot> I have no doubt that Erza will win the match, but I think Kagura is definitely on her level [06:08] <Salubri> lets face it there is no foil for erza anymore then there is one for zeref [06:08] <Godismebot> Like I said, she has likely never been in competition before [06:08] <Godismebot> Mashima made it seem like this is Mermaid Heel's first year in the tournament [06:09] <Salubri> i call duece ex machina on her random appearance in this arc [06:09] <Lemursrule> heh [06:09] <Godismebot> I also don't think anyone will win the tournament, something will happen which causes the tournament to end and eclipse will have to be used [06:10] <Mohrpheus> Assuming the prophecy or whatnot isn't fulfilled [06:10] <Godismebot> There is a reason Lucy came to the past and persuaded Hisui into doing this [06:10] <Salubri> you notice they have yet to explain what "future" lucy said will happen [06:11] <Salubri> which alot of people doesnt seem to believe will even happen [06:11] <Godismebot> and what happens is likely huge as it looks like Lucy has either lost her right arm or its badly damaged as she cannot write with it [06:13] <Godismebot> Hi Dizrain, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [06:13] <Godismebot> We'll see how it plays out, but knowing Mashima and his love of time travel, things are going to be huge [06:13] <Godismebot> Dizrain, you need ten article edits to be here [06:13] <Lemursrule> Dizrain you need 10 edits to be here [06:13] <Dizrain> oh... sorry... [06:13] <Salubri> if fairy tail doesnt win thats the nail in the coffin for them, they need the money. [06:14] <Mohrpheus> The tournament's not gonna matter much if Acnologia shows up and roasts everybody. [06:14] <Godismebot> I dont think the tournament will happen. My guess, Acnologia comes and kills everyone [06:14] <Salubri> that already happened [06:14] <Godismebot> Acnologia was said to be the bringer of doom and a servant of Zeref [06:14] <Godismebot> He is involved in this [06:15] <Godismebot> Something has to happen that will cause them to use Eclipse [06:15] <Godismebot> This is playing out very similar to RAVE [06:16] <Salubri> or they could just use it like they were gonna do in the first place, in fact it was already used they wanna use it again [06:16] <Godismebot> Which by the way, you should all read [06:16] <Mohrpheus> What are the chances of them actually beating Zeref with it though? [06:16] <Godismebot> Probably high [06:16] <Godismebot> Zeref wanted Natsu to kill him [06:17] <Godismebot> This is his chance [06:17] <Salubri> its a time machine they wont defeat him with it, they go back in time when he wasnt as powerful or more vulnerable and then use it [06:17] <Mohrpheus> Well, that's what I mean. [06:18] <Godismebot> I still like a theory I heard saying that the Dragon Slayers are from the past [06:18] <Mohrpheus> So we'll probably see Acnologia as a human if it comes to that. [06:18] <Godismebot> That they somehow traveled to the future unknowingly [06:18] <Salubri> the method behind this is ridiculous no one seems to know zeref wants to die and has been waiting for someone powerful enough to do it [06:22] <Godismebot> I think it will all play out well. Mashima did time travel in Rave and it was very interestingly done [06:22] <Salubri> everyone thinks he is trying to destroy them when really they are fighting creations from his past work [06:23] <Godismebot> Read Rave, you'll like it [05:18] <Renji's wife> do you speak english [05:18] <SunXia> you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here [05:21] <Godismebot> So many idiots today [05:24] <SunXia> why [05:24] <SunXia> and i so called it knew she had a split personality shes clearly not the same there [05:24] <Godismebot> http://bleach.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/delete [05:25] <SunXia> sounds more like trolls today [05:25] <Godismebot> Trolls are idiots [05:26] <Godismebot> But I call bullshit on Kubo killing Unohana [05:26] <Godismebot> Why the fuck would he want to kill the strongest captain in the Gotei 13 [05:28] <SunXia> i have no idea [05:28] <SunXia> and that chapter was tanslated badly [05:28] <Godismebot> very badly [05:28] <SunXia> that or kubo was just filling it with shit words [05:29] <Godismebot> missing letters everywhere [05:29] <SunXia> yea and parts of it looked like there was an insinuation that yama "bought" his power or whatever [05:30] <SunXia> not only that shes SS's best healer bullshit [05:31] <SunXia> why the fuck would central 46 demand they fight to the death when shes their healer [05:31] <Godismebot> THe hell? Kuro uploaded 19 images? did he upload every page? [05:31] <SunXia> if we get one fight out of her i will be severely fucked off [05:31] <SunXia> he added lots of images [05:31] <SunXia> pretty sure i already uploaded a pic of the kirinden blood pool [05:31] <SunXia> but very tired now i was looking after the sick ones [05:32] <Godismebot> Sick ones? [05:33] <SunXia> eva and caolan have scarlet fever [05:34] <Godismebot> Scarlet fever still exists? [05:34] <Godismebot> I thought that went the way of smallpox and polio [05:37] <SunXia> nope it still exists [05:38] <Godismebot> Kubo trolled me :( They walk into Muken and no Aizen [05:39] <SunXia> polio is still around [05:39] <Godismebot> Polio is all but extinct [05:39] <Godismebot> The vaccine has taken care of it [05:39] <SunXia> still has about a thousand a year [05:40] <SunXia> smallpox though is eradicated [05:41] <Godismebot> Well, there was almost an incident of smallpox [05:41] <SunXia> the only other that has been completely eradicated is a cattle disease [05:41] <Godismebot> A vial was stolen [05:41] <SunXia> that would be a natural occurrance [05:42] <SunXia> wouldnt [05:42] <SunXia> damn why can i now say what i mean [05:42] <SunXia> fucking stressed today, only got one set of pain killers the morphine based ones and theyre...useless for me [05:42] <SunXia> so had to get an emergency slide of them [05:43] <Godismebot> Im telling you, go buy some bear tranqulizers [05:43] <Godismebot> Those will treat you very nice [05:44] <SunXia> that wouldnt be allowed [05:44] <Godismebot> Why not? [05:45] <SunXia> i talked to a middle aged woman on the way home she has the same thing, she got a hysterectomy at 36 and she says you still get pain even after, and everyone who has been saying have a baby it will get better she said hers got worse [05:45] <SunXia> its in her family though her sister had to get one too and her younger system is coming up to get one [05:46] <SunXia> hysterectomy [05:46] <Godismebot> How would that be possible, with no womb, should the pain not stop? [05:46] <Godismebot> As nothing new should be growing [05:47] <SunXia> shes says its not as bad but her body still responds to the preparation and things, shes going through actual menopause now so she says that should eventually stop [05:48] <Godismebot> Well, its your choice what you want to do [05:48] <SunXia> and if you recall...or maybe you dont...the medication the hospital wouldnt put me on but the one the private hospital did simulates menopause or hysterectomy and yeti still get pain albeit more manageable [05:49] <SunXia> nah no private doc will sanction a hysterectomy for a girlin her 20s wouldnt risk it [05:49] <SunXia> risk their job [05:49] <SunXia> i asked [05:49] <Godismebot> Good, cause I think your biggest regret in life would be not having a kid [05:49] <Godismebot> You love kids too much [05:49] <SunXia> as the woman said "women have to go through so much and at times its worse for some women too" [05:50] <SunXia> it was nice to talk to somebody who wasnt "kids makes it better believe me" and who actually had the experience of nothing working [05:50] <SunXia> oh i love kids so much [05:50] <SunXia> i know that [05:50] <Godismebot> Hence why I say I can't imagine you not having one [05:50] <SunXia> our matthews girlfirend was hre when i was minding the dumplings [05:52] <Godismebot> Matthew is the....younger one? [05:52] <SunXia> our hollie is 11 tomorrow and she said to me last week "its like you're always everyone's favorite aunt, even when you were a kids you always had kids following you about" [05:52] <SunXia> matthew is 19 yeah [05:52] <SunXia> so is the gf [05:53] <SunXia> shes not used to kids, when eva dropped her dummie matt told her to run it under water, ive never seen someone hover and be all "hot or cold" lol [05:53] <SunXia> but yeah hollie goes to the school i went to and apparently the teachers still there remember me and told her about how i was always running around looking after the kiddies [05:54] <SunXia> i was 14 when hollie was born so i was wonderi ng how she knew what i was doing aged 4-11 but alas my old teacher is now the principal and said "its Sun who could forget her" lol [05:55] <Godismebot> lol [05:55] <Godismebot> Meanwhile at that age, I was in my punching phase [05:56] <SunXia> i actually remember when i was 13 in grammar school we trvelled to the pool and i actually saw my old teacher waiting on her class to finish their lessons she was all "You were never one to forget your swimming gear" she ws so perceptive, it only took me to place a hand near my tummy and she knew, patted me on the shoulder and told me hopefully it will get better before going [05:57] <Godismebot> Special:RecentChanges Is my blog visible to you? [05:57] <SunXia> i think she is one of those people you cant imagine not being a parent or not around kids too [05:57] <SunXia> yeah [05:57] <Godismebot> Odd, its not appearing on my RC [06:01] <SunXia> FIRST COMMENT lol [06:02] <SunXia> i so no im gunna regret getting involved in the blog [06:03] <Godismebot> :( I can't see blog comments [06:03] <SunXia> cache?? [06:04] <Godismebot> Tried [06:04] <SunXia> I knew there wasnt a scarlet fever vaccine [06:05] <SunXia> its treated with antibiotics [06:05] <Godismebot> There we go [06:05] <SunXia> paul got it when he was 12 and he had to be kept away from matt and i as we were younger [06:05] <SunXia> yes but its not eradicated [06:05] <SunXia> used to be a big killers [06:06] <Godismebot> in the 1600s [06:06] <SunXia> back in the day yeah [06:06] <Godismebot> Hi Salubri, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [06:07] <Godismebot> Hi Mohrpheus, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [06:07] <Salubri> hello all [06:07] <SunXia> one of the "back in the day" illnesses i would have hated is diphtheria [06:07] <SunXia> Hey Sal and Morph [06:07] <Mohrpheus> hello [06:07] <SunXia> your throat closes over and stuff [06:08] <Salubri> all i can say is best chapter ever, though considering how we were left hanging it should have been 2 weeks worth of content [06:08] <Mohrpheus> If only. [06:09] <Mohrpheus> I kind of figured this chapter would touch on Kenpachi though. But Unohana... hell. [06:09] <Salubri> but for what we got highly informative like i like [06:09] <Salubri> yea totally wow factor [06:09] <Godismebot> Unohana is a psycho bitch [06:09] <Salubri> i love her [06:09] <SunXia> i called it [06:09] <SunXia> knew she was gunna go psycho [06:09] <Godismebot> Too bad she is going to die [06:09] <Salubri> i think she is my favorite female now [06:10] <SunXia> what is the point in killling off two potential strongest peeps [06:10] <Mohrpheus> That panel where she first turned her head actually made me jump [06:10] <SunXia> or two of [06:10] <Salubri> yea that i find to be bullshit, in this situation is the best thing to do is to lose one of your best assets in a war that makes no sense [06:10] <SunXia> yeah her appearance was worse than the freaky twins in The Shining [06:11] <SunXia> but theres no point in dying in training [06:11] <Salubri> yea i didnt like that twist [06:11] <Mohrpheus> Unohana is stronger, but I think Zaraki has more potential... which seems to be what Shunsui hedging his bets on. [06:11] <Godismebot> Yes, but in losing Unohana, you lose the current strongest and the best healer [06:11] <Mohrpheus> I doubt either of them will die though. [06:11] <Salubri> yea but you take someone you know is the best and put them against someone woth potential [06:11] <Godismebot> Hi Ultraprime2, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [06:11] <Salubri> i hope not mohrp [06:12] <SunXia> but shes the reason so many characters havent died [06:12] <Salubri> i hope something takes place to stop that from happening [06:12] <Mohrpheus> The fact that it's being hyped at all kind of makes me skeptical from a literary standpoint [06:12] <SunXia> yeah i hope this wwill be like Kenshin and his master [06:13] <Ultraprime2> "Hell, I can't kill you. I respect you." Seems to be the way it's gonna end when these two are done fighting. [06:13] <Mohrpheus> That'd be contrary to Zaraki's character though. He'd kill her because he respects her. :/ [06:13] <Salubri> whats interesting its apparently not the first time they have fought [06:13] <SunXia> maybe he can turn his sword into a reverse blade one [06:13] <SunXia> lol [06:13] <Ultraprime2> I dunno Mohr, I think he'll give her a pass. [06:14] <Salubri> maybe they will be interrupted [06:14] <SunXia> i love how she says "my one wound" and hes like "my many wounds" so yeah hes clearly had his ass handed to him from her several times which if true reminds me of when ikkaku fought him [06:14] <Mohrpheus> I'm pretty sure the point of this is drawing out Zaraki's Zanpakuto's power. It'd fit the concurrent theme [06:14] <SunXia> has he not MET urahara??? [06:14] <Ultraprime2> I think it's gonna be flashback time soon. [06:14] <Godismebot> He will likely learn his Zanpakuto name soon [06:15] <SunXia> that as retorical [06:15] <Salubri> thats a personal issue between zanpakuto and weilder though how is this supposed to do so [06:15] <Ultraprime2> I think they might want to use Unohana to jolt his memory or make him search himself. Or something to that effect. [06:15] <Mohrpheus> Life crisis, I dunno. [06:15] <Salubri> also if anything zaraki needs to be taught a lesson on zanpakuto rather then ichigo and renji [06:15] <SunXia> yeah bankai you have to manifst....oh wait for shikai name ichigo had to be in a "shit im gunna die" [06:15] <Mohrpheus> Zaraki's already been putting some work into it. [06:16] <SunXia> he knows his sword has a peenies [06:16] <SunXia> or one [06:16] <Godismebot> Sal, remember Ichigo's training, he was going to die unless he worked with his Zanpakuto [06:17] <Mohrpheus> But that they're in Muken at all raises the obvious questions. [06:17] <Godismebot> I think that is what Kenpachi is going to have to do [06:17] <Salubri> yea i was gonna say taht [06:18] <Salubri> so i have a realization (which came as a flood of information). I kind of deduced already Tenjiro was probably the original 4th division captain. [06:18] <Mohrpheus> Seems likely enough. [06:18] <SunXia> well there are often parallels from ichigo and kenpachi the most obvious being the vast reiatsu and the fack they cant reseal their swords [06:18] <SunXia> agreed with sal [06:18] <SunXia> he probably took Unohana under his wing [06:18] <SunXia> actually more than likely [06:19] <SunXia> taught her control etc [06:19] <Salubri> also something about the shinigami and quincy [06:19] <Salubri> something that i realized [06:21] <SunXia> what [06:22] <Salubri> Shinigami are balancers. What do they balance? Existence. Being part of the balance would require them to be neither good nor evil. Think of it this way, in the force there is light and dark, jedi and sith. If they keep the balance then that would stand the reason they are in the middle and not on either side [06:23] <SunXia> well yeah [06:23] <Mohrpheus> That assumes either side is good or evil though. [06:24] <SunXia> they keep souls in the cycle [06:24] <SunXia> eating souls and killing humans i'd say thats evil [06:24] <Godismebot> Template:Portal first four slides done [06:24] <Salubri> but thats a human point of view [06:25] <Mohrpheus> Who are you talking about? This is the Human World we're talking about. The Humans do their part by dying. [06:25] <Salubri> shingami arent human i doubt they see it as a ethical or moral question [06:25] <SunXia> God the Polic slide is like below the box [06:25] <Godismebot> which slide? [06:25] <SunXia> what i mean is that it flows over the edge [06:25] <Salubri> its a question of whats ordered over whats chaos [06:25] <SunXia> second one [06:26] <SunXia> second slide [06:26] <Ultraprime2> Yeah, some parts are spilling out of the slider. [06:26] <SunXia> course its a Human view, im human, people who needlessly kill other are evil [06:27] <Mohrpheus> That's why it's not an issue of good or evil. The murderers do their part as well. [06:27] <SunXia> i never saw the shinigami as bad or good since learning of the quincy genocide [06:27] <SunXia> yes but ichigo himself he is a self assigned protector so he is what human beings call "good" [06:27] <Godismebot> How does it look now [06:28] <SunXia> no doubt the shinigami fought Aizen at FKT to stop the upheaval in the balance that the loss of so many lives at once would cause [06:28] <SunXia> Karakura Residents still spills over the bottom edge of the second slide [06:29] <SunXia> Policy slide is fixed [06:29] <Ultraprime2> I see it the way Sun sees it. [06:30] <Salubri> well yea point being, there is no heaven or hell christian view, its cyclical like reincarnation a wheel. Hell for those who comited sins as humans, Soul society for souls awaiting a return to the cycle. Hueco mundo for the corrupted souls. [06:30] <SunXia> but ichigo himself is not a balancer, nor is orihime since she has saved lives they clearly have morals or live by a code [06:30] <Godismebot> Good now? [06:30] <SunXia> Hell those ws brought into it [06:31] <Ultraprime2> Looks fine now. [06:31] <SunXia> AA's name is little close to the edge but its all inside [06:32] <SunXia> actually the previous slides are close so yeah thats fine [06:35] <Godismebot> Hi Mohrpheus, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [06:36] <Salubri> My point is this if the Shingiami balance the equation then that would infer much like the oracle in the matrix something has to unbalance the equation. It cant be hollows as they have no true design they are a result of being part of the equation. A certain amount of hollows have to exist as well as souls to maintain balance. Something outside of that which is manipulated has to be that which its unbalancing the equation. [06:37] <SunXia> hmmmm [06:37] <Mohrpheus> Negligence. If the Shinigami just stop doing their job, then there won't be balance. And then there's the Quincy of course, but they're assumed to be outside of the natural order. [06:38] <Salubri> though this assumes that the equation requires an unbalance [06:39] <Mohrpheus> I'm not entirely convinced that this balance is natural though. [06:39] <SunXia> i did like that part that explains a zanpakuto, how they're given a sword that eventually evolves into an extension of them [06:39] <Salubri> thats the issue i cant find precedence for the line of thinking that would confirm that so theres the issue with my theory [06:40] <SunXia> .....someone is asking me if typing on a keyboard strains wrists [06:40] <Godismebot> Sun, that kind of goes against what was said earlier [06:40] <Godismebot> Before it was said that a Shinigami solidifies their reiryoku into the form of a sword [06:40] <Godismebot> Not that they used an Asauichi as a medium [06:41] <Mohrpheus> Well, Ichigo seems to be an exception [06:41] <Salubri> ahh see i though so to but its how you interpret it the full information is someone different though its partly true [06:41] <SunXia> ichigo obviously wasnt given one [06:41] <Mohrpheus> He had a sealed sword by default. [06:41] <SunXia> at least i missed the messenger from SS to give one [06:41] <Salubri> ichigo is always the exception he is not a good reference point for anything we all know that [06:41] <Mohrpheus> True. [06:42] <SunXia> Hmmmm kubo is so back and forth [06:42] <SunXia> see from the "sword" part i assumed it was more shikai upon this new discovery [06:43] <Mohrpheus> Nimaiya invented it in general, it would seem. [06:43] <SunXia> and i did find it baffling that Izuru and Renji and Momo would have zanpakuto on their first hollow training trip [06:44] <Godismebot> We've known of Asuichis for a while [06:44] <SunXia> so would he be an original captain too?? [06:44] <Godismebot> Just not that they were used as a basis for creating one's own zanpakuto [06:44] <Mohrpheus> When was it said that they are solidified reiryoku again? [06:44] <Godismebot> early on [06:45] <SunXia> well it isnt unheard of for people to use objects to manifest things within themselves example urahara's bankai trainer [06:45] <Godismebot> Can't remember exactly when [06:46] <SunXia> but i do find it difficult to imagine that nobody had a zanpakuto until Ōetsu created these things [06:47] <SunXia> unless the spirit obviously still exists inside the sword just manifests its powers [06:47] <Mohrpheus> That's part of why I think the Dangai/balance didn't always exist. [06:47] <Mohrpheus> Unless they had other means of performing Konso [06:48] <SunXia> good point [06:48] <SunXia> hmm wonder if one of these guys will be the creator of Kido too since thats something used regularly too [06:48] <Godismebot> Well, here is how I look at it. Someone had to invent the Zanpakuto. I dont think Shinigamis were just born with swords in their hands [06:49] <SunXia> well i get that point [06:49] <Godismebot> Likely, they eventually figured out how to create Zanpakutos and then Nimaiya invented the asuichi [06:49] <SunXia> to better draw them out?? [06:49] <Godismebot> Yeah [06:50] <Godismebot> The only Royal Guard members left are Shutara and Osho, neither look like the kido types to me [06:50] <Mohrpheus> I could see Osho doing it. Shutara is obviously the sciency one. [06:51] <Godismebot> Osho seems like a swordsmen to me [06:51] <SunXia> perhaps shutara though she could be like merlin-ish experimental [06:51] <SunXia> kido sounds like someone would have had to experiment a lot [06:52] <Mohrpheus> Bah, of course it's a Mangarain scan. [06:52] <Mohrpheus> http://www.mangapanda.com/94-520-9/bleach/chapter-66.html [06:52] <SunXia> but i like that urahara revealed you can make your own kido well almost suspected that with momo and her combinations and meldings [06:52] <Salubri> unexplained info [06:52] <Godismebot> Oh Mangarain [06:52] <Godismebot> Why do they even bother? [06:53] <Godismebot> They dont know a thing about japanese [06:53] <SunXia> seriously who wants to read a story in english with "Soul Cutter" [06:53] <Mohrpheus> Kitsuki! Kurenaihime! [06:53] <SunXia> ew [06:53] <Godismebot> So horrible [06:54] <SunXia> if everything is translated like that it just sounds like the author flung words together [06:54] <SunXia> japanese words often lose something in the translation for me like the magic or essence [06:54] <SunXia> well when they're using words to describe unique things [06:55] <Godismebot> reason number 1000000000000000 I prefer subs to dubs [06:55] <Mohrpheus> 0\ [06:55] <SunXia> im fine they dont call Zangetsu Istuki or Soul Cutter [06:56] <Godismebot> They started with Soul Cutter [06:56] <Mohrpheus> I prefer they leave names untranslated [06:56] <Godismebot> As do I [06:56] <Mohrpheus> But they're so damn inconsistent with that [06:56] <Godismebot> Leave Japanese as Japanese [06:57] <SunXia> they call it zanpakuto [06:57] <SunXia> if they said it, i can only imagine it was more to elborate of what it essentially means [06:57] <SunXia> but they definitely say zanpakuto [06:58] <Godismebot> And then they butcher names [06:58] <Godismebot> My ears, they can't take the butchering [06:58] <Salubri> i wonder what the fan fiction wiki will put up about unohana now [06:58] <SunXia> im fine with how they pronounce things [06:59] <Mohrpheus> Seireitou was taught swordsmanship by Unohana. Then he combined all of her styles and inspired her hair braid with some spin move. [07:00] <Mohrpheus> No, I got that backwards. Seireitou taught Unohana. [07:00] <Godismebot> And Nimaiya created a Zanpakuto too powerful for anyone but Seireitou to handle [07:00] <SunXia> no sei gave her and kenpachi the wounds they were actually speaking of [07:01] <Mohrpheus> The Zero Kenpachi [07:02] <SunXia> hm i wonder if i should make a message for my voicemail [07:03] <Salubri> no [07:03] <SunXia> "You've gotten through to Sun, I'm more than likely in work or passed out with my medication so I can't come to the phone. If it's important leave a message!!" so tired of "you never pick up" as if i choose to be asleep when they ring [07:04] <SunXia> and people call me in work [07:04] <SunXia> wrecks me [07:04] <SunXia> im not allowed my phone and then they moan [07:04] <SunXia> especially since i usually sit about in work especially if feeling sick and cant yet move to walk to the bus [07:05] <Godismebot> "You've gotten through to Devil Woman, I'm more than likely bullying God or doing devil woman things. Don't leave a message!!" [07:06] <SunXia> omg....DELETE i actually said SUN [07:06] <Godismebot> lol [07:07] <Godismebot> Just change your legal name to Sun [07:07] <SunXia> lool [07:09] <SunXia> someone asked what my current nickname is if i have one i told him sun or sunny/sunneh [07:09] <Godismebot> What about Devil Woman? [07:09] <SunXia> course people said "figures" apparently it was too early in the morning [07:10] <Godismebot> Hmmm, not sure what to put on this manga slide [07:13] <SunXia> why [07:13] <SunXia> chapters volumes color pages?? [07:13] <Godismebot> I can't list all 50 some volumes on it [07:13] <Godismebot> I can put a link to the chapters page, manga omakes [07:14] <Godismebot> what else [07:14] <SunXia> oh that annoys me when people start using what famous eople's translated names are in articles [07:14] <SunXia> Genral Fire is Born, what you mean General Siyaj K'ak'?? [07:14] <SunXia> then uh maybe the first volumes of some arcs?? [07:15] <SunXia> since you know good starting points?? [07:15] <Godismebot> Maybe link to the event summaries? [07:18] <SunXia> oh cool [07:19] <Godismebot> I dont know. That and the anime slide will be hard as Im not sure what exactly to put on them [07:25] <Godismebot> Hi Mad Nation, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [07:25] <Mad Nation> How do you do that before I enter chat? [07:26] <Mad Nation> Nvm [07:30] <Godismebot> Hmm? [07:30] <SunXia> his edits werent all on articles [07:30] <Godismebot> oh [07:31] <Godismebot> I didnt even bother looking [07:31] <Godismebot> Having trouble with the slides [07:32] <Godismebot> Ahaha, found it [07:34] <Godismebot> Hi Mad Nation, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [07:34] <Mad Nation> Oh I see [07:35] <Mad Nation> 2 more edits [07:35] <Mad Nation> Bye