Bleach Wiki:Chat/February 11, 2013

 [11:55]  Hello [11:55]  Aaaand she's here [11:55]  Now the complaints can ensue! [11:55]  Heh [11:55]  But Sun is away. [11:55]  The cruel irony. [11:56]  Hi Salubri, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [11:56]  back is not too bad today, but still, irony [11:56]  Hey sal [11:56]  no if only sun were not away, I would ask her about tumblr [11:56]  Now [11:56]  Use the Force, Lemurs [11:57]  Here is the secret to getting Sun to not be away [11:57]  SUN WAKE UP [11:57]  I think it worked [11:57] <Godismebot> Works every time [11:58] <SunXia> it didnt i was here before that [11:58] <Xilinoc> It's like magic [11:58] <Xilinoc> God magic [11:58] <Godismebot> She tries to deny it, but it works every time [11:58] <Godismebot> Cause Im good like that [11:58] <Lemursrule> So sun I am thinking about starting a bleach wiki tumblr, should I do it [11:58] <Xilinoc> Cause you have hax [11:59] <Kamikaze839> Also, why isn't the techniques page alphabetized? [12:00] <SunXia> not a bad idea Lemurs [12:00] <SunXia> might help attract numbers :) [12:00] <Xilinoc> Good question Kami. [12:00] <Xilinoc> I have no idea. [12:00] <Godismebot> Before we even do that, we should really revamp the twitter [12:01] <Godismebot> Because as it is now, it serves basically no purpose [12:01] <Godismebot> other than announcing birthdays of characters [12:01] <Godismebot> which no one really cares about [12:01] <Lemursrule> I was thinking it could be open submission, but have admin approval before its posted. Im still trying to figure out how to fix the twitter god [12:01] <Godismebot> Run contests [12:01] <Xilinoc> God ... [12:01] <Godismebot> Daily trivia, first person to get the answer right gets a mention [12:01] <Godismebot> have a hashtag they need to respond with [12:02] <Xilinoc> For the techniques page, shouldn't Blut and Vollstandig have a picture? [12:02] <Lemursrule> That sounds good god, but what would we give them [12:03] <Godismebot> A mention is enough to have people swarm in [12:03] <Godismebot> You just say winner will be announced [12:03] <Godismebot> And then you say @blablabla won today, good job [12:03] <SunXia> uh the VAs look at the Twitter and retweet them too [12:04] <Lemursrule> Yeah I would like that, but Im terrible for starting a random conversation, and one or two of the vas probably have any sustainable knowledge on bleach [12:05] <Lemursrule> If it was just a random conversation, that would be fine, but trying to keep it relevant is much more difficult [12:05] <Godismebot> The wiki has enough followers that people would have fun with trivia [12:05] <CiFeR215> gota go [12:05] <CiFeR215> Xi [12:06] <CiFeR215> i'll finish pages 16 and 17 later [12:06] <CiFeR215> and subs [12:07] <Xilinoc> Bye Cifer [12:07] <Lemursrule> Toodles [12:07] <CiFeR215> also that sound like a pretty good idea for twitter [12:07] <CiFeR215> later guys [12:07] <Lemursrule> I mean I can come up with random trivia stuff [12:07] <CiFeR215> and gals [12:08] <Godismebot> Bleach Wiki:Statistics provides a good place for trivia [12:10] <Lemursrule> Good [12:11] <SunXia> Disney Twitter too, take some pointers from them, like the scramble song titles or give random facts and ask what they are [12:12] <Lemursrule> Will have to look it up [12:14] <Lemursrule> I've thought about getting a personal twitter once, but me less than 140 characters does not compute. I would be able to start convos but for me and less than 140 ain't happening [12:15] <Salubri> oh yea i forget the statistics page sometimes i need to finish that [12:15] <SunXia> https://twitter.com/Disney [12:15] <SunXia> yeah i always have to use multiple posts for a point lol [12:16] <Lemursrule> Tumblr is the only thing that works for me,because Facebook is too stalkery [12:16] <Godismebot> There is always twitlonger [12:17] <SunXia> Facebook...it used to be filled with stuff i liked reading about now its become about people moaning about how they never get out to drink [12:18] <Lemursrule> Yeah, look I've I am going to be kind of a bitch, Im going to do it with class, plus Tumblr is much more organized in my opinion and is more customizable [12:18] <Godismebot> I only go on facebook when I am bored these days [12:18] <Godismebot> My friends dont often post very interesting things [12:19] <Godismebot> Though I do argue with a wikia staff member quite a bit on facebook [12:20] <Xilinoc> Oh my. [12:20] <Lemursrule> Heh [12:21] <Godismebot> Hi Glass Heart, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [12:21] <Godismebot> He is a no good dirty democrat [12:21] <Godismebot> Who is fun to argue with [12:21] <Xilinoc> Hi glass. [12:21] <Glass Heart> Hey Xil. [12:22] <Xilinoc> A no good dirty Democrat, eh. [12:22] <Xilinoc> I assume you give him that title for much the same reason you call Glass a bully. [12:23] <Salubri> ll\ol [12:23] <Godismebot> Glass is a bully [12:23] <Glass Heart> No I'm not. [12:23] <Godismebot> She admits to initmdating people [12:24] <Xilinoc> Yet you do as well. [12:24] <Glass Heart> I just appear intimidating to some people. [12:24] <Lemursrule> Heh [12:25] <Salubri> yea try again [12:25] <Godismebot> Glass is a big meany face [12:25] <Salubri> dont bullies tend to say that though [12:25] <Xilinoc> Say what? [12:25] <SunXia> agreed sal lol [12:25] <Glass Heart> Nah, God. [12:26] <Salubri> that they just appear intimdating to some people [12:26] <Salubri> its like a form of rationalization [12:27] <Xilinoc> Ah. [12:28] <Lemursrule> Ha [12:28] <Xilinoc> OK, that's enough work on the techniques page for today. [12:28] <Xilinoc> Now for actual work. [12:30] <Godismebot> Anyone seen Mohrph lately? [12:30] <Godismebot> He has gotten lazy again [12:30] <Xilinoc> He stopped being lazy? [12:31] <Godismebot> When I was giving him work to do, yes [12:31] <Lemursrule> That was your fatal flaw god [12:31] <Lemursrule> you asked him to do work [12:32] <Salubri> you know my biggest issue with walking dead is that its hard to watch something like the zombie apocalypse (even though it a great idea), when you really cant get attached to characters, cause you know they are can die real easy out of the blue. [12:33] <Xilinoc> Sal, there are three outcomes of a zombie attack in that show [12:33] <Godismebot> The problem with that show has always been the characters [12:33] <Xilinoc> 1. You narrowly avoid getting bitten [12:33] <Godismebot> very few of them are likeable [12:33] <Salubri> thats not true [12:33] <Xilinoc> 2. You get bitten and devoured [12:33] <Godismebot> Daryl is about the only character people like [12:34] <Xilinoc> 3. You get bitten or scratched or whatever offscreen, and come back as a walker [12:34] <Xilinoc> And now that I think about it [12:34] <Xilinoc> 4. Rick kills you [12:34] <Salubri> yea rick has become merciless [12:35] <Salubri> but sometimes [12:35] <Kamikaze839> I'm taking a break from the techniques [12:35] <Salubri> well you get the idea [12:35] <Xilinoc> I have too, Kami. [12:37] <Xilinoc> 16 pages in a row is enough for one day. [12:38] <Kamikaze839> Didn't Kubo promise to do a lot of stuff in this arc? [12:38] <Salubri> no [12:38] <Salubri> kubo says he is gonna do things [12:38] <Salubri> and then we wait and see if he actually does [12:38] <Salubri> never promises [12:38] <Lemursrule> Yeah it's kind of ill believe it when I see it [12:38] <Godismebot> Im still waiting to find out how XXXXX is XXXXXXX [12:39] <Godismebot> and what Mizuior actually is [12:39] <Godismebot> *Mizuiro [12:39] <Xilinoc> God, isn't it obvious? [12:39] <Xilinoc> XXXXX is ******* [12:39] <Xilinoc> Duh. [12:39] <Salubri> yea i dont know the point of him even printing that [12:39] <Godismebot> He wanted to give spoilers but his editor edited them out [12:39] <Xilinoc> But but but it generates "mystique" or something [12:39] <Xilinoc> Poor Kubo [12:39] <Lemursrule> I honestly believe it was done to piss people off and make Mizurio seem relevant lol [12:39] <Godismebot> So why they even printed it, I dont know [12:40] <Godismebot> Mizuiro is obviously a girl [12:40] <Xilinoc> Getting censored when he tries to provide his fanbase with information [12:40] <Salubri> that was the exact opposite of what a journalist doing a interview wants to do. either be vague or say noting but dont tell him and then say oh yea no spoilers block what i said out [12:40] <Xilinoc> Mizuiro is the same gender as As Nodt. [12:40] <Lemursrule> Here's the secret Mizuiro is...human [12:41] <Salubri> no if kubo wanted to give the fanbase information he would [12:41] <Salubri> that censor was all him [12:41] <Godismebot> No, editors are very strict [12:41] <Xilinoc> I thought it was the editor [12:41] <Godismebot> He has said so before [12:41] <Xilinoc> Exactly [12:41] <Xilinoc> So, poor Kubo. [12:42] <Godismebot> He has stated on occassion that he tried to do something, but his editors said no [12:42] <Salubri> thats b.s. we are supposed to believe that he holds no power over what he writes [12:42] <Lemursrule> Also Kubo after the end f the arrancar arc has pretty much made jabs at his editor [12:42] <Xilinoc> How so, Lemurs? [12:42] <Godismebot> He can write whatever he wants, but an editor still has the power to take it out [12:42] <Lemursrule> Ah Sal Toriyami [12:43] <Salubri> yea i just dont believe that if this was a newspaper of magazine maybe but outside of that i think its bullshit unless he signed a complete crap deal cause he didnt know any better [12:44] <Lemursrule> Basically when Hell Verse came out it Japan, in a booklet given out for the film, he was almost apologetic for the arrancar arc and said I can do better and the fans liked it and I wanted to develope the espada more and it just got carried away...and he mentioned his editor wanted him to keep it going [12:44] <Xilinoc> Keep the arc or the manga going? [12:44] <Salubri> i would have hated that, the arrancar arc was too long and i could care less about the espada's backstories [12:45] <Lemursrule> Unless you are a big time author in the league of say J.k Rowling, most authors get a bad deal [12:45] <Godismebot> And then he turns around and writes the Substitute arc, the most hated arc by fans [12:45] <Lemursrule> Keep the arrancar arc going [12:45] <Xilinoc> Why does everyone hat that arc so much? [12:45] <Lemursrule> He pretty much declared the arrancar arc went on too long [12:45] <Xilinoc> hate [12:46] <Salubri> either he has a bad deal or he is playing us all for fools to get sympathy support [12:46] <Salubri> for his bad decisions [12:46] <Lemursrule> Because it actually dint focus on the shingami for 2.5 seconds [12:46] <Xilinoc> GASP [12:46] <Salubri> no [12:46] <Salubri> they hate cause it was confusing [12:46] <Xilinoc> You mean it developed the main characters?! [12:46] <Xilinoc> HOW DARE HE [12:46] <Godismebot> It wasnt confusing [12:46] <Godismebot> They just hate it because there were no Shinigami [12:46] <Lemursrule> He actually appoligized for his bad decisions he said in hindsight mistakes were made on his part [12:46] <Xilinoc> It's pretty straightforward. [12:47] <Salubri> ok it wasnt confusing huh ok. how does ichigo have full bring? [12:47] <Godismebot> Hollow Ichigo [12:47] <Kamikaze839> I also felt the fullbringers were a bit dry and predictable [12:47] <Xilinoc> Masaki got attacked while Ichigo was in the womb. [12:47] <Salubri> is kugo a shinigami like ichigo or is he straight human [12:47] <Xilinoc> That's the explanation for all Fullbring. [12:47] <Salubri> how does he have fulbring and shinigami powers [12:47] <Godismebot> He is a Human, who gained Shinigami powers [12:48] <Godismebot> Kugo was born to a parent that was attacked by a Hollow before his birth [12:48] <Xilinoc> Still doesn't explain why he's so damn young though. [12:48] <Godismebot> He later stole Shinigami powers [12:48] <Godismebot> This was all said [12:48] <Salubri> dont quote what we all know give me a real answer [12:48] <Salubri> seeing that its not confusing [12:48] <Godismebot> It is real answers [12:48] <Godismebot> None of it is confusing to me [12:48] <Salubri> really [12:48] <Godismebot> Seems fairly straightforward [12:49] <Salubri> then you never read the arc its full of holes [12:49] <Godismebot> I read the arc [12:49] <Godismebot> I guess I am just better at picking up on the small details [12:49] <Salubri> ichigo just randomly has fullbring [12:49] <Salubri> no your not [12:49] <Salubri> you justify thats different [12:49] <Godismebot> Well, apparently I am because you dont understand things that I do [12:50] <Godismebot> So obviously you are missing something [12:50] <Kamikaze839> the fabric of time in Kubo's universe has holes burned into it by bleach [12:51] <Lemursrule> Lol [12:51] <Xilinoc> Pretty much. [12:51] <Salubri> im not missing anything this hasnt been proven even ichigo is surprised at the concept [12:52] <Lemursrule> Sal Ichigo is Jesus and has the power of plot armor [12:52] <Salubri> apparently [12:52] <Xilinoc> Yup. [12:52] <Godismebot> The only thing that was not outright stated was why he can use Fullbring but that was implied to be because of remnants of his Hollow powers [12:52] <Salubri> id agree with that lemur [12:53] <Kamikaze839> speaking of inner hollow etc., I'd like to see Ichigo's inner world, considering his regained shinigami powers/different looking shikai and the need to reforge his bankai [12:53] <Salubri> the entire arc should have been about chad and developing his fullbring and understanding it. but as usual its always gotta be about ichigo, even when saving rukia, or orihime [12:53] <Xilinoc> Kami... [12:53] <Lemursrule> Yeah it makes sense now god because his fullbringer riatsu was black and when he got his shinigami powers back it was bluish white, which to me implies Kugo took was little was felt of Ichigos hollow powers and those powers died with Kugo [12:54] <Salubri> its all a plot device for him to change ichigo's look [12:54] <Xilinoc> I'm willing to bet Ichigo's inner world has gone from New York to New Jersey. [12:54] <Salubri> hey whats that supposed to mean [12:54] <Lemursrule> Uh oh [12:54] <Xilinoc> Well... [12:54] <Xilinoc> Ichigo has all these changes after 17 months [12:55] <Xilinoc> Shikai [12:55] <Xilinoc> Bankai