Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-29325824-20190424173157/@comment-957629-20190424202022

Timjer wrote: Well, I agree that that's illogical, but I honestly can't pinpoint where exactly things went sour between us... I don't know, okay? From my perspective it started off on the Novels and other stuff. I admit at one point I remember getting frustrated because you have a habit of adding multiple edits to your discussion posts, which is fine. But at the time I was typing out replies and would get frustrating when I think I had responded and then realise there was more had to respond to. But this time I waited a while, 15 minutes after you last edited before responding because I have learnt that sometimes you take a while to formulate complete responses and thats fine. I was never angry with you just felt like because you were editing your responses to me then I had to edit mine and then you were still editing yours so its better one of us waits and I don't mind that being me.

I will be honest, I do take strong pain killers and I also get injections that make me dizzy but have no choice or I would bleed heavily 24/7 so I can be quite dizzy. So when that conversation wasn't flowing as easily as sometimes it frustrated me and sorry for any unintentional harm I caused there.

Timjer wrote: I just don't believe in appeal to force, even if your guidelines are there for a reason. I get that but we used to have a looooot of drama here. Sometimes discourse is great. Sometimes it starts to become personal and well I've been known to fall into a trap of continuing it instead of dropping it like ''If I could just make them understand" and it never works. So that's often why I shut down the discord before it can take root. I know it seems harsh but we primarily want the Wiki to be about editing. Discussions are fun but when they erupt and become over the top they can take over the editing and it eventually becomes counter productive.

Timjer wrote: Or maybe it's just that I'm tired of the novels still being a topic of discord amongs the fandom, especially since I can see both points and am kinda torn between them. Then step away from those discussions. Unless those novels are officially and professionally translated, I am not going to read them. I've tried and maybe its from my years reading Fanfiction but the way I have to read them, the style they are translated and such, while yes commendable and amazing, is just jarring to me.

We have never cared about the novels here. And to be honest most never did. This obsession people have with the recent novels is because the Manga is over so they are clinging to things that were never blinked about here. Not saying don't enjoy, hell no thats their purpose, by all means enjoy them. I just won't, I tried and not for me.

But peoples obsession with these new novels, compared to those from 2004 and 2006, seems to be in context because the Manga is over. Thats of course not the reason you enjoy them but it seems to be a correlation compared to how nobody even batted an eye when the other novels came out.

I don't personally care about the novels. But I did open a discussion about implementing them and the live action movie onto our Wiki because there was a new call for it from, well, non-members and non-editors. When it comes to a Wiki decisions on how things are to be treated need to be made so we have consistency. I know maybe because because it was a while ago now that I'm just ignoring people but I am not. I gathered opinions and decisions from the team and have been consistent since then. I know it looks like I am operating by myself but if they are ever needed the dudes would jump in. I just tend to be the one about because I'm usually in bed in pain.

Timjer wrote: Honestly, if we could make a second first impression, maybe we wouldn't be in this mess. I sure hope so as I do regret how things went from there. Honestly I thought we were on a better keel after Yyp's involvement. Maybe that was one-sided I don't know. But then, if people piss me off I usually laugh about it with the guys as mostly I'm just keeping the website consistent and trying to stop Drama or insults. Hell I literally just wrote on the new users page before you opened this:


 * Only recently has Timjer tried to contribute to the articles in question which we are grateful for.

So I hoped we were on the same page and that you knew I had no ill-will towards you.

Timjer wrote: You know the weird thing is I believe you. I mean, I am a naive person who always assumes people are inherently truthful to me from the beginning, but even so Honestly, I am told regularly I am not a bad person. My customers always give me high ratings in work (always get prizes) and I get told constantly by my Pain Psychologist to stop beating myself up. I'm not perfect by any stretch but I do struggle a lot with Guilt if I have hurt someone. Honestly if I didn't actually care I wouldn't be replying to you.

I don't mind when people pull me on something I've done but I know it riles me when its something I haven't. I haven't ever intentionally insulted you or disrespected you. But I also know that your feelings are still valid which is why I have always tried to explain that hurt was never my intention.

Timjer wrote: Whatever, it's late here, so I'll just follow the advice Yyp once gave me and sleep it over. Maybe by tomorrow things'll have calmed down again. Maybe. Hopefully. That's why I linked Yyp's words because they were not mine and I hoped they would help again like they did once upon a time.

Nobody's perfect. Honestly I am fed up with the Novels or more the discord as well. I wish people would just accept we have our views and they have theirs. As you come down in the middle of that maybe those particular conversations...avoid?? Like not the Novels themselves and the content just when I have to sprout the Canon Policy because I think that makes us kinda conflict I think. Because when you jump in it looks like I am shutting you down when I'm not, I already know your opinions on the Novels and I don't think we are going to change each others minds.

Sleep well.