Forum:Vizards' Masks and Shikais

vizard masks and shikai's
does anybody else think that the appearance of there masks look similar to there shikai's(and maybe bankai's of the ones who have it)? i.e. loves mask looks like a demon and his shikai looks like a club,which a lot of demons use.Soul reaper magnum 22:01, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

At first I didn't understand your question, because U didn't capitalize Loves name & I was a little confused. Now that U mention it I do see what You're saying, but thus far Love is the only Vizard whose weapon matches his mask. Minato88 16:12, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I see what you mean with Love's mask and shikai, and Hiyori's Mask and Shikai sort of match too. I think that Kubo decided to focus on any special abilities of their shikai's later and just go with something aesthetically correct for now.--Ulquiorra Wannabe128 18:45, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

sorry about not capitalizing Loves name. and i was thinking that lisa's mask looked a little like the viser of a knights helment and some knights use a lance/spear.what do you think?Soul reaper magnum 02:58, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but what about a bird and a rose whip?

that's true i can't find a connection there. and there's ichigo(skull mask and what looks like a giant knife).Soul reaper magnum 15:56, October 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * O man you're completely right. I didn't even notice that Lisa's mask resembles that of a knights helmet. I am a little confused about what you're saying about Ichigo. I know his mask is like a skull & his shikai is a large cleaver sword, but whats the link. & the link between is that birds are musical animals & like to sing. Rose likes music & his whip can be played at the hilt to use its special abilities. Minato88 16:51, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

srry what i meant about Ichigo was that his didn't mach. and i'm not the one who first said the thing about Rose but your right about him.Soul reaper magnum 21:18, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

don't some birds get nectar from flowers?Humming bird I think.Saimaroimaru 00:15, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

The only thing I can think of for Ichigo is that his mask is simple (a skull) and his sword is simple (large cleaver, no proper hilt, no handguard just a massive blade) and they both represent how he fights, brute strength and speed. Otherwise I think all the shikai/mask combo's we've seen have been reasonably suitable. I just can't wait to see Shinji's, something egyptian? BollyW 00:20, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

i have to say you hit the nail on the head with that one bolly. and i can't wait for shinji's either but i have a filling he'll be the last one to release his shikai. and just to keep things rolling what do you think hachi's will be?Soul reaper magnum 00:43, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Theres always the possibility we might not ever see Hacchis Shikai. He rarely ever carries it & uses it even less. I mean hes already strong enough without it. Mashiro's the one i'm looking forward to. Minato88 03:18, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

that's true, i wonder what it'll be? her mask looks like some kind of bug.(some people say it's a bee/hornet and i remember some saying a grasshopper)Soul reaper magnum 04:17, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Mashiro resembles quite a lot of old-school manga characters, so I'm putting my stakes on rocket punch shikai ;) Akeki 06:56, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

maybe,now whats left? any ideas on bankai's?(this is my first forum so i'm trying to keep it going with new ideas)Soul reaper magnum 15:03, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I noticed a similarity between the Shikais of the Vizard and Shinigami Captains from the same division.

Gin and Rose both have a weapon for meele combat at long rage

Love and Komamura both have zanpakutos that are huge or, in komamuras case make huge attacks.

Kensei's and Tosen's zanpakutos both have a ring on them.

Given that I'm thinking that Shinji's might be a tricky one like Aizen's, of course, not with illusions, but a kido type. I've thought of an ankh that has some egyptian related attacks such as scarab swarms or mummyfication. --Suzumushi 20:11, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

A bankai idea I've had running round in my head for a while, that would suit Shinji nicely I think is a chariot. Made out of solidified reiatsu of course, like Komamura's samurai but instead it amplifies the speed of the wielder (rider) and opens up a range of special attacks. As for Kensei I have no idea, and I don't think we'll be seeing Love or Rose's anytime soon... BollyW 21:43, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

never really thought about that and your right Suzumushi. and i think that would be awesome for Shinji's shikai; and nice idea with the bankai Bolly.and i'd really like to see Kensei's seeing as it's a small knife and it's a wind element.Soul reaper magnum 00:04, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

I figure that Shinji's shikai would be a sort of Egyptian scimitar (look it up, its cool). As for a bankai, that sounds cool what brolly said, but a little ridiculous. Nick4444 03:47, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Hey yeh those are pretty sweet. I know it's ridiculous but I figured it was no more ridiculous then some that we've seen! I don't think it would stand out too much... but hey, who knows? BollyW 04:11, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

guess we'll just have to wait. and i'v got to say it's been fun having people to talk about this with. so what's there left to talk about?Soul reaper magnum 06:51, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

I'v stated before in another post I made that I think Shinji has some sort of reverse/backwards time control. Hes shown a couple of times doing things backwards. Flying in the air, drinking water upside down, writing his name backwards on the school board when joining Ichigos class. Also his guard on his Zanpakutō is shaped like an hour-glass.Quadrupus 21:07, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

your right that's got to be it, i had wondered myself how he was walking upside down when he attacked Ichigo for the first time. and if you've noticed his mask is reversed in a way, the face on it is backwards it looks like the right side of the face is on the left side of the mask and viceversa.Soul reaper magnum 23:10, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

At first I thought Shinjis Zanpakuto would be able to control gravity, or something along those lines. However, after reading Quadrupus' comment I agree with U guys. Besides, that would be the coolest Zanpakuto ever. Minato88 13:52, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Besides his mask looks furiously like a lobster's back...Baronofash 14:26, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

i don't really see the lobster thing, and i guess we'll just have to wait and see what his shikai is. and have you guys noticed that Shinji's mask covers his head when the other just cover there face, except for Hachi but his mask is just bigger than the others.(there's something else to talk about)Soul reaper magnum 15:40, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

i think the thing with shinji having a gravity zanpakuto is cool... pretty much(in my opinion) the reason their shikais match their masks is because kubo doesnt really have time to think this out and give them something really clever, especially for "backstage" vizards like love and lisa. he'll probably think of something sick for theirs later. and holy shit, have you seen the spoilers? the description of Kensei's bankai sounds a little, well, lame for a bankai...--Ulquiorra Wannabe128 18:06, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

i'll have to check that out.Soul reaper magnum 00:02, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

anybody have any ideas as to how kensei's mask and shikai are similar?Soul reaper magnum 09:57, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

My thought on that was modern. A hockey mask and a combat knife. Admitedly that's a fairly general link but it's the best I can think of, probably because Kubo had already shown Kensei's shikai before his hollow mask was even conceived. BollyW 10:21, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

yea, maybe his bankai will mach in some way then. and do you have any ideas on what i said about Shinji's mask earlier?Soul reaper magnum 11:42, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

well, kensei has an interesting bankai. and i'm guessing it's about to go back to hueco mundo.Soul reaper magnum 22:49, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

I personally like Kenseis Bankai. I'm also wondering when we are going to get back to Hueco Mundo. I mean how many chapters have gone by & we're still in the living world. Has Yammy just been staring down Renji, Rukia, & Chad for the past Month & a half. Minato88 01:35, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

My quess would be that we won't see Yammy's fight but only the result. For example, we see Yammy fall down and die as Unohana shealthes her sword, just before Mayuri opening garganta to FKT. That would show us how powerful Unohana is without showing any of her skills (it seems that KT likes to keep most powerful zanpakutous secret) Akeki 11:22, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

i hope not, while it is true that KT likes doing that i don't think he'd skip showing what Yammy could do. and if i remember correctly the way this stuff usually works is when it does return to Hueco Mundo it'll go back in time in a way to right after Yammy released so it's be as if that fight and the war were going on at the same time.Soul reaper magnum 13:02, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I've recently wondering about how Ichigo & co. are gonna get to FKT & help Shinji(whom called out for their help). I see 1 of two possibilities. The first is Urahara opens a couple of Gargantas to let them out. The second is Ichigo. Ichigo is learning how to use his Hollow powers at a somewhat remarkable rate & his latest transformation is something we haven't seen the others do. Maybe Ichigo relying on his instincts will be able to open a Garganta to get back. Minato88 18:55, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

maybe, ether way is possible. and i do wonder what Urahara is up to(you know he is). and i would like to see more about Ichigo's new hollow form. and it sucks cuz japan is two years ahead in the anime and they haven't even got that far yet.Soul reaper magnum 08:56, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

I'm wagering my paycheck on either Nel or Grimmjaw opening the gate for Ichigo and the others to return through.Hollowmajinbuu1 09:01, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

didn't think about that and what ever happened with Grimmjaw? i read that Nnoitra attaked him or something.Soul reaper magnum 11:24, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah Grimmjow lost his fight to Ichigo, yet he tried to continue fighting eventhough he could barely stand up. Ichigo begged him to stop & that he promised to fight Grimmjow later, but just then Nnoitra threw his Crescent Axe & further injured Grimmjow. Hes last seen laying on the ground. He doesn't look like hes going to die, but its apparent his spirit & pride have been broken. Still i'm sorry to disagree with u, but there is not a chance that Grimmjow is going to help Ichigo & the others in any way. If Nel knows how to open a Garganta then yeah she could, but not Grimmjow. Grimmjow will more then likely recover & turn on Aizen. The two really don't like eachother & like Ulquiorra & Aizen try to boss Grimmjow around since they're stronger(I should probably mention that Grimmjow has a serious authority complex). Minato88 19:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

yeh, he'll probly turn on Aizen maybe even help Ichigo a few times and i'm hopeing that after this arc he's still around. i haven't seen him do much my self since i only watch the dubed anime but i still like him. and why do you think he wont open a garganta?Soul reaper magnum 21:03, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

During their most recent fight, Grimmjow stated that he hated Ichigo. The reason for hating him is he thinks Ichigo(who is not only a soul reaper, but also a human)looks down on him. & Grimmjow losing to Ichigo really didn't imrpove their relationship. Grimmjows fraccion all knew him better then anyone else. They had traveled with him for many many years. This is shown in ep 167 which hasn't been aired yet. After they died he didn't even care about his friends(I say friends cause thats the closest to friends Grimmjow has)died. Grimmjow is a solo flyer & in some ways is a narcissist. I'm not saying he won't help them. TK is the writer so it his decision. I'm just saying I don't see that happening. I too hope Grimmjow lasts longer. The Espada in my opinion were short-lived & I wanted to see more of them. Minato88 23:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

guess we'll just have to wait and see. i was thinking that after he finds out that Aizen didn't care about the espata he'd help Ichigo,if only to take down Aizen.Soul reaper magnum 00:08, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

i'm guessing since kensei's bankai smaller than most it has some other forms.Soul reaper magnum 17:06, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Who knows, maybe it does & maybe it doesn't. Thus far Byakuya is the only Shinigami whose Bankai has had more then one form. Minato88 17:42, October 18, 2009 (UTC)