Talk:Kaien Shiba

Ichigo's Relation to the Shiba Clan
A few days ago I made an addition to the article where it notes the resemblance that Ichigo has to Kaien. In it I simply noted that as Ichigo is Isshin's son, who is also a member of the Shiba clan, Ichigo is related to Kaien in some way. This edit has been removed since then. Is there any reason for this? It's not speculation, Ichigo shares blood with the Shiba clan, even if it's not entirely clear just how Isshin was related to Kaien and his siblings. Shouldn't this be noted somewhere in the article? –Nahald (talk) 01:09, October 27, 2016 (UTC)


 * Isshin is Kaien's uncle, as confirmed/implied/whatever by Ganju and Kukaku in chapter 518. However, as there's no explicit confirmation that Ichigo looks like Kaien because of this, we can't put it in the articles and thus leave it as a conclusion for readers to draw on their own.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:18, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't recall it ever being said that Isshin was their uncle, but if that's the case, shouldn't we go ahead and put both Isshin and Ichigo under the Relatives section of the infobox? –Nahald (talk) 01:51, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * Like I said, it was more implied than outright stated, though I believe some of the pages on the wiki use it as evidence. Here's the line in question, from page 14 of chapter 518:


 * Kuukaku: ...Yeah. // If he doesn't go now... // Soul Society will be doomed when the next attack comes. // We have to let him do this... / Even if... // ...our uncle ends up shedding tears as a result.


 * "he" is referring to Ichigo here. While this by itself and at the time of its publication didn't mean much, a few months later we learned that Isshin was a Shiba, and with that in mind he's logically the only person that Kūkaku could be talking about (both as a Shiba and as Ichigo's father).--Xilinoc (talk) 03:44, October 27, 2016 (UTC)