Talk:Chapters

Bleach 48 published!!!
http://shonenjump.com/j/comics/index.html

it is called God is Dead

chapter 423 renamed Bleach my soul

Soulreaper1234 (talk) 12:20, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the chapter list. Page has been updated. 10:41, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Imaginary number 01. the unforgivens
Maybe should be under See Also until we see if it's actually put into a tankobon? WD  Converse  00:18, December 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Seems reasonable. If usual patter is followed then the next volume is out in 2 months time. 10:41, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

suggestion add chapters - arcs sequence?
How about adding a chapters based on arcs section for e.g. (just like the episodes section)

chapter 1-70 shinigami agent arc

chapter 71-117 ss sneak entry arc

chapter 118-183 ss rescue arc

chapter 184-229 arrancar arrival arc

chapter 230-251 hm sneak entry arc

chapter 252-286 hm fierce fight arc

chapter 287-315 arrancar vs shinigami arc

chapter (108-97) past arc

chapter 316-340 decisive battle arc chapter 341-423 downfall arc

chapter 424-ongoing lost shinigami agent arc

the chapter stated are just estimation (need some confirmation)Soulreaper1234 (talk) 15:26, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Those are anime arcs. They are not manga arcsGod (Pray)  16:35, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I know thats only a suggestion I dont know what arcs title based on manga chapters, however, like they do in OPwikia & Narutowikia eg like this,

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Chapters_and_Volumes or

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Plot_of_Naruto

Soulreaper1234 (talk) 19:06, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

As strange as it may sound we are not the OP wiki or the Naruto Wiki, we're the Bleach Wiki and we have a different way of organizing things. The chapters are compiled within volumes, as you can see in the article, so separating them by arcs would be a waste of space. The Anime article is divided that way because it has many different arcs, but doing such for the manga chapters is unnecessary. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  19:17, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

As Lia said, we are not (shocker) the One piece wiki or Naruto wiki. We do things how we believe they should be done, not how one piece wiki thinks it should be done. Looking at your examples, one piece wiki does it the same way we do, they just have a table of the arcs listed at the top. Naruto wikis is just a mess, they don't have chapters or volumes listed, they just have arcs with a short summary. Our chapters page is quite organized and there is no need to change it.--God (Pray)  19:30, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

It does not sound strange why it should be, even though the other big2 already done this thing, you just create the page or section & summarize the chapters according to manga arcs, Bleachwikia is not them yeah I know that, but the thing is if you do this other than summarizing the volumes ie 48 volumes at least we know what chapter/how many chapter in each manga arcs or maybe some people wanted to know if the episode has this number of arcs the chapter had how many already? Or maybe in Bleach theres no manga/chapter's arcs? Hope others would look into this & not feel offended mataku. Soulreaper1234 (talk) 19:40, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Let's get something straight here, the manga arcs are The Shinigami Arc (Chapter 1 - 178) and then Arrancar Arc (Chapter 179 - 423). Maybe the Shinigami Arc can be divided into Agent of the Shinigami and Soul Society Arc but as far as I know, Kubo has never made any official statement about that arc. Only thing he has ever said was that he considers Chapter 179 onwards to be the Arrancar Arc. Now we could potentially put Volume 1 to Volume 20 under the sub heading "The Shinigami Arc" and then Volume 21 to Volume 48 under the sub heading "The Arrancar Arc". However, we can also put Volume 1 to Volume 48 under "Act 1" and "Volume 49 - onwards" under "Act 2" since Volume 49 is set 17 months after Volume 48 and is telling a brand new story. You see where I am going with this? Arbitrary grouping is, well arbitrary. Kubo himself groups the chapters by sharing names "Decide", "End of hypnosis" etc and he groups them by volumes. These are all reflected in our page. Let's not start making things-up when we don't really need to. Tinni  (Talk)  20:15, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

I see what you are getting at - there is some merit in a small list saying what chapters are in the arc if it were possible - but we do not know that officially, so we can't do it. Aside from the start of the current arc and end of the Arrancar arc, I don't recall ever seeing what Kubo defines as the arcs (not sure where Tinni saw the start of Arrancar arc cited). Just fan names and the anime arc titles being applied to manga. We would need to have concrete proof of such things before doing anything and right now we don't. The site has enough problems without us starting to make things up. 22:31, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

I see thats why theres no summary arc in regards the chapter manga, understood its non-canon. But how about the episodes/anime section, at least there's some needs to summarize the arc's anime with the chapter numbers & or volumes, I at least clicked 9 or 10 times each time refreshing my browser & scroll down many more times to actually try to find and jot down the chapters number referencing the episodes and or the entire arc (see above afraid its not that confirmed). The detailed episodes by episodes & arcs by arcs summary was great but it didnt stated from what chapters to chapters, further by doing this people could see which arcs were not fillers because it has no chapter number & would know which arcs made based on the manga/chapters, without doing the extra work. Soulreaper1234 (talk) 02:49, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Capitalization of chapter names
I noticed that several chapter names are capitalized here. Is that really necessary? Furthermore, it is not consistent, just look at the "Deicide" chapters: half of them only capitalize the first letter ("Deicide"), the other half is completely capitalized ("DEICIDE"). This looks and feels a bit odd and like bad style. Please consider that even the title of the series itself is always spelled BLEACH in the manga, but referred to as Bleach here for style reasons. --Rh73 (talk) 09:22, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

The chapter titles should appear exactly as they are in the manga. So if Kubo writes them all in capitals, as with 439. KEEN MARKER, then they will be written as such here. I think the deicide chapters were not put like than when they were first added and have yet to be corrected. I will handle fixing that as it requires that redirects be altered as well. 12:51, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

New Volume names?
Just to clarify... do we call them "tankobon volumes" or "graphic novels?" Because it seems to flip-flop a little bit. Avolling (talk) 17:02, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

They are interchangeable but they are usually referred to as tankobans or in graphic novel format.--

U.S Release Dates
I'm curious as to why someone decided to delete all the US release dates I put in. I sourced properly, no different than anyone sourcing the others (the links were to Amazon just as they had done with Bleach 41 and prior). I cited them properly as well and just went back to add in the ISBN US codes but now everything's gone. I would kindly like an explanation for the deletion of what I just did the past 20 minutes. Revan46 (talk) 06:43, May 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * That was my fault, I have been working on a bot that undoes edits automatically from an IRC feed of this wiki's recent changes based on certain criteria, your edits triggered a false alarm. I've restored them.--

Volume Names
Given the current policy regarding chapter titles (discussed above), should the same policy be adopted for the volumes? Namely, the titles being exactly as they are on the cover, given capitalization and punctuation. There are currently a number of inconsistencies among the articles as is. Whereas articles like those for end of hypnosis and THE BLOOD WARFARE reflect the names on their covers exactly, those for The Death and the Strawberry and ¡Mala Suerte! do not. I suggest that they all be corrected, if not for the sake of consistency. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  04:12, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd agree with this. If it is to be done for Chapter names, it should be done for Volume names.--


 * I am also in favor of this. I see no problem in renaming the articles as to how the original Japanese tankōbons name them; there would be a lot of renaming, but at least then things will be consistent, as Mohrpheus stated.


 * Not a pressing issue, but at some stage it should probably be done. It is an awful lot of renaming, with pages and redirects both needing to be addressed if it was done, so I'd advise that if we go through with it, that we should do it by bot whenever it is done (and during a relatively quiet time of day as far as number of edits being made is concerned in order to avoid disruption as much as possible). 13:08, August 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * My bot can handle the changing of the links no problem. If someone can just prepare a list of all the volumes that need renamed and what they need to be renamed to, I can put that into my bot and have it run through and change all links. In terms of a day when there is no activity, a Sunday or a Monday usually tends to be the quietest.--

As a heads up, I am going to start this now. It is going to be a massive undertaking, hundreds of pages will be affected. If you notice the bot doing anything wrong, you can stop it by leaving it a message on its talk page.--

Alright, I need some team effort, my bot is being stubborn and the movepages command is not working. So can someone move all the pages please? I have a list right here --


 * I can. Launch without bot flag? http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120125122424/central/images/thumb/0/03/Ponurak.png/24px-Ponurak.pngPonurak http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120125122430/central/images/thumb/5/5a/Ponurak2.png/24px-Ponurak2.png 18:28, August 25, 2012 (UTC)