Talk:Tōshirō Hitsugaya

Please dun mix Byakuya's with Toshiro's page

Protagonist
Excuse me but... Since when he is "along with Ichigo Kurosaki and Rukia Kuchiki, one of the three central protagonists of the series" (?) i know he's one of the most popular bleach characters so far, but despiting this and the fact that he's the central character in Bleach:The DiamonDust Rebellion, he's just another cool character in Bleach major story just like Byakuya Kuchiki, Grimmjow Jeagerjaques, Urahara Kisuke or Zennosuke Kurumadani as well. Maul day 09:52, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't say he's a "central protagonist", but he is an important character. At least, until Halibel finishes wiping the floor with him.  I'd argue that Byakuya and Urahara are more important, though.  Big red01027 19:15, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I think he's a main protagonist during the Aizen Incident, but later becomes less important. Suzumushi
 * I agree with you, Suzumushi. But I think he's one of the central protagonists because he's one of the only charaters in the series who starred in a Bleach movie. Ernestpun

Hyōrinmaru's debut
is it really in the diamond dust rebellion? Since that film is set after the soul society arcs I would have thought it came out after Hyōrinmaru is revealed in the anime. Old-one-eye 15:08, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

DEATH
Rhysno1 18:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC) ive seen some scans and it looks to me like toshiro is gonna die! does anyone think that they'll really kill him off?

Well I think, in the end hachigen heals everyone like he did with Tsubaki. I can't imagine loosing another Captain right now, except for Yamamoto (he is too strong right now and might be killed by Aizen, Gin and Tosen together). But Hitsugaya is a character that can still get more powerful. Those characters normally don't die, like Ichigo didn't die even though he got stabbed countless times and was healed up by Orihime afterwards. --Aefilion 17:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Rhysno1 18:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)i dunno doing that would be a bit silly, if they kill him then resurrect him i'll lose a lot of respect for the series?

Being in a really tight spot does not mean dying. How many times have we seen similar characters in the same predicament. If anything there is to much left for Toshiro to do character wise as well he is most likely the biggest opponent for Gin in the long term. Most likely if it comes to it either he will finally realize his potential as i doubt he even he has reached it or someone else might step in. So we'll see but i think people discount hitsuguya way to much how many times has he had a tough time. If anyone was gonna die Ichigo should of some many times already as well as Chad or Orihime being the most likely. But i have seen the spoiler and im not sure it makes to much sense, something about it just dont sit right, theres something off about it. I think it has to do with more or less seeing these type of injuries before. Rangiku herself lost like a chunk of her right side and while seriously injured she isnt dead, Regardless of his healing serum Mayuri has been messed up a whole lot in his couple of battles. If anything he is seriously injured enough to be out of the battle. Which is a good time for someone else to step in and fight. But even with that serious injury i doubt death. Salubri 22:52, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Rhysno1 15:54, 23 April 2009 (UTC) I dunno his wound is very big, i doubt almost anyone could survive that. that looks like if the wound itself didn't kill him the blood-loss would, also there doesn't appear to be any medics not that i think that would help?I suppose we'll have to wait an see.

Well, Renjis and Ishidas internal organs and many other parts of their bodys got destroyed by Szayel Aporro. And a bit later Mayuri just healed them, so that they are able to fight again. Inoue also restored Grimmjows arm, even though there was nothing left of it. And Hachigen states, that he and Orihime are able to restore or "Reject" anything, they like to. I think Aizen says this about Orihime, that her powers are that of god, as she is able to just reject everything she wants to.--Aefilion 20:06, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I sense a disturbance in the fandom
A pretty BIG wound inflicted on young Toshiro. I can only imagine what the fangirls are thinkin' now. D: Kaihedgie 07:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'm gonna be honest here. Guys, unless it looks conclusive, and trust me, IT DOES NOT, please do NOT state that Hitsugaya is dead. Right now, he is "dead" in the sense of Grimmjow, Loly, Menoly, and Rudobon: heavily wounded, yet no hard evidence to indicate that he's dead. Sorry, but that really needed to be said. Arrancar109 07:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * ok how about incapacitated Fawcettp 07:25, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I hope he's not dead.He's my 3rd favorite captain(Komamura,Than Shunsui.)

gohanRULEZ 07:57, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * So far all we can say is that he is seeimingly [heavily or seriously] wounded. WhiteStrike 08:00, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

No one could survive that blow and guys, he has a kid's body. There is no way he could survive that. Kaihedgie 22:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Even if the wound is fatal others have been healed from worse. Orihime has healed people from worse than that, effectively Orihime can 'reject' death so pretty much noone on the Shimigami side will die as I can see it. You are basing your conclusion on 'real life' logic. Its obviously not real and anything can happen. Also the slash would not have hit any major organs, so Toshiro, if he beat a retreat could possibly get healing. Look at the Vice-Captains right now. They are being healed and Rangiko is missing almost all of her stomuch/urinary tract. Obviously showing they can heal such injuries. Zenpaki 00:00, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

More excuses. XD Those guys are already filled up tryin' to better Rangiku's condition. Sure, she suffered a clean blow through the torso area, but her injury isn't as severe as Toshiro's as he lost pretty much half of his body. No one lives through that, especially with the severe blood loss to follow Kaihedgie 00:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Again...real life logic >.<.....Also...if they are 'souls' how the hell do they bleed? Or for that matter take damage? Just to point out your own use of real life logic. If these was following a logically path, toshiro would have passed out after the slash and not uttered what the hell.

People in the Soul Society also fall ill to diseases as with Ukitake and his tuberculosis. Everything in the Soul Society still follows the rules of the human realm. It is just that everything in the SS is spiritual. That doesn't mean they can't bleed though. Also, people can die there, too. In short, it isn't heaven, just passing on to the next world and living a new life. Kaihedgie 02:29, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

See thats where its difference from real life....Possibly cause none of us could know. I just gonna say for all intensive purposes that here when someone dies, their dead. Theres not some army of Shimigami above us and people don't suffer fatal wounds only to be healed moments later. We also don't even know if Toshiro really got hit. Have you taken that into consideration? Theres the possiblity that he performed a Flash Step just as Yoruichi did against Byukuha. (Forgive the spelling of their names.) Though, its a theory and albeit a bad one as Toshiro hasn't shown that much prowess with Flash Steps. Also, there could be the possiblity that his bankai allows him to form body parts out of ice, sealing his wounds and keeping him alive. Zenpaki 03:14, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Now you're just in denial. I thought this was gonna happen. XD Afterimages and ice don't bleed. And Toshiro didn't even see the blow coming until it was too late, so it's impossible for him to have avoided it, even with a Flash Step. Kaihedgie 03:16, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Note I said bad theories. Theres no denial, I just don't think the author will kill off Toshiro. He may injure him horribly...as he's done repeatedly through out the series. (Seriously Toshiro has been nearly killed at least three times.) Also the ice thing...I was just saying that he would reproduce a part of his body out of ice, while doing so the replacement wouldn't be effective as his real arm, but it would at least stop the bleeding. Another bad theory...Toshiro seems extremely close to his sword and while not exactly canon, what if he merged his his zanpakuto like the villian in the Sealed Sword Frenzy OVA? Considering that almost every time a character switches forms. (Unleashing Bankai/resurrection/hollow state...etc. I'm sure the captians have more tricks up their selves.  Who knows one of them might release a healing type.  though thats doubtful.

Only Unohana and Hanataro are the only known Soul Reapers with such Zanpaktou, but they're too busy with Rangiku, Shuhei and Izuru. Unlike Ichigo, Toshiro has no Hollow or anything like that to save him and Soifon stated that everyone is fighting without their limit placed on them. The thing is, no character has sustained this lethal of an injury before. The only ones who still have something to show off are Soifon, Ukitake, Shunsui and Yamamoto. Kaihedgie 03:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm gonna say to agree to disagree. Neither of us are going to back down and I'm pretty sure Toshiro received worse during his fight with Shawlong, though they weren't as focused, I am pretty sure the same could be said when he was struck by Aizen. I just thought of something else. Yama-whatever, guy with the peacock zanpakuto, he drains the power of others, then eats the petals produced to heal his injuries. Not sure to what extent, but he could possibly have spares and give them to Toshiro, seeing that keeping the captains and vice captains alive is more important than his pride. I don't remember him being wounded by Allon, if I'm wrong I'll go reread to find it.