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Do not edit a closed discussion--God (Pray)  19:48, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Enhanced Kido
But where is the proof of that, Aizen makes claims all through the chapter most proving false in comparison to Ichigo. We have no information that would move toward the idea that his spiritual power has changed any which is the reason for the removal of the spiritual power claim. Meaning while it is likely that it has become greater we have no proof that it has changed from his second form, as no justifiable mention other then Aizen's claim. The concept could just as easily mean that it was simply enhanced by the full incantation, otherwise why use the incantation if he can simply state the name without the incantation seeing as his power is so great since when he was a Shinigami as it wouldn't matter if he he said it or not the sheer power he possesses currently could totally trump the downgrade in full power that he would normally face without the incantation. Another interpretation would be that with full incantation while in this new form the spell is even more powerful then it was when he used it in the SS arc. But there is nothing to indicate that his use of kido is more powerful solely because of a supposed enhancement in reiatsu while in that form. By the logic that his reiatsu is the defining characteristic in kido then any that he used as an average shinigami with his level of reiatsu would have been beyond devastating for any captain at that time. Considering how the black box somewhat failed the first time he used it thats not the case, now if its the difference between captain-level and lieutenant or below then yea the explanation of kido and spiritual power is an issue. A 4th seat using a low level spell will not have the same results as a lieutenant or captain. In Aizen's situation his non-incantation version had an effect but didn't kill komamura. His full incantation version didn't connect at all. We have nothing to state how effective it would have been as it didn't actually work. At most he used kido with full incantation that doesn't change his skill or level in Kido as its an assumption to assume what its capable of doing or that its any more powerful other then the fact that he used a full incantation cause we dont have an example of its effect at that level. --Salubri (Talk)  15:38, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thus my point alot of maybe and probablies but no actual fact to allow it to be a true statement. What proof is there it was anymore enhanced other then using full incantation? Stating because of his new form isn't valid enough and Saying what Aizen probably was trying to do isn't a valid explanation, we cant and dont place assumption on the motivations unless they are expressed or stated. What we do know is his intention was to kill Ichigo who had become stronger with a high level kido spell. The spell did not work. We have no proof of its power other then it being a full incantation, we have no proof of what it was capable of or what effect it would have on other characters if used against them. All we know is that it was used with full incantation and didn't work on Ichigo. Seeing as we also dont know if at his normal level whether Ichigo could have accomplished the same thing or not we can't say either way. Even if you use the argument that his reiatsu is greater in the new form therefore his kido is enhanced, you would still need an example of his use of kido showing it being enhanced at that level. There currently is none. --Salubri (Talk)  16:24, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

What can any speed movement look like on black and white paper. We don't know what it is other then a higher level of speed, so we can't claim it to be teleportation which is not in line with the material nor can it be confirmed. Secondly High-Speed Regeneration could be usable as well. Ichigo's page will be unlocked around the time we determine whats the correct information to place in the forth form as being currently discussed on the talk page. --Salubri (Talk)  16:59, September 9, 2010 (UTC)