Bleach Wiki:Chat/December 8, 2012

 [11:46]  no what happened with him [11:47]  He made his name Kurosaki-kun! Kurosaki-Kun! because he thought it was funny [11:49]  yeah we thought that username would annoy you Sal lol [11:49]  So wikia installed new forums http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:101330 They were kind enough to even add a like button [11:53]  i didnt enable them cause i though they looked to much like answers [11:53]  Its just the message wall [11:53]  They are slapping it on everything these days [11:54]  Pretty soon only articles will not be message wall style [11:55]  then they will be too lol [11:55]  Wouldn't shock me [11:58]  what i extremely hate is comments at the bottom of an article that shit is stupid [11:59]  Yeah, well most wikis these days dont want to use talk pages [12:00]  They just want to express how much they love the character [12:00]  and they like to do it in 5000 comments [12:02]  http://icarly.wikia.com/wiki/Seddie#article-comments Before wikia changed how moving pages worked, if this page were ever moved, wikia would cease to exists as the servers would never have enough space to allow people to edit articles on other wikis because it was still processing this move [12:02] <Salubri> heres an idea i dont care what other people like about the character [12:02] <SunXia> Oh i hate comments at bottom of articles, i would never like it there, because too many wikis have been ruined by it [12:08] <Salubri> thats way too much content dedicated to a fictional relationship and way to many comments about it, over 1634 pages of article comments, thats retarded. [12:09] <Godismebot> Thus is fandom these days [12:13] <SunXia> im not a shipper i dont like articles dedicated to shipping [12:31] <SunXia> it just doesnt compute with me to have those articles AT ALL [12:31] <SunXia> oh i love that we have 1845 articles now [12:31] <SunXia> wait are redirects included in that?? [12:00] <Godismebot> and they like to do it in 5000 comments [12:02] <Godismebot> http://icarly.wikia.com/wiki/Seddie#article-comments Before wikia changed how moving pages worked, if this page were ever moved, wikia would cease to exists as the servers would never have enough space to allow people to edit articles on other wikis because it was still processing this move [12:02] <Salubri> heres an idea i dont care what other people like about the character [12:02] <SunXia> Oh i hate comments at bottom of articles, i would never like it there, because too many wikis have been ruined by it [12:08] <Salubri> thats way too much content dedicated to a fictional relationship and way to many comments about it, over 1634 pages of article comments, thats retarded. [12:09] <Godismebot> Thus is fandom these days [12:13] <SunXia> im not a shipper i dont like articles dedicated to shipping [12:31] <SunXia> it just doesnt compute with me to have those articles AT ALL [12:31] <SunXia> oh i love that we have 1845 articles now [12:31] <SunXia> wait are redirects included in that?? [01:28] <Godismebot> Sun, no if you count redirects we have 7,169 pages [01:30] <SunXia> phew [01:30] <SunXia> oh btw i caught up on all castle [01:30] <SunXia> forgot to tell you today [01:31] <SunXia> didnt think i was so close to the end until was none left to watch [01:31] <Godismebot> I told you you were about done [01:32] <SunXia> darn [01:32] <SunXia> http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk: Godisme ?curid=8666&amp;diff=334593&amp;oldid=334586 - a vampire meeting [01:32] <SunXia> haha love that he used irish slang knackered [01:32] <SunXia> lol [01:32] <Godismebot> Poor Yyp, trying to pretend that he is not a vampire [01:33] <Jushiro971> he not [01:34] <SunXia> he is [01:34] <Godismebot> Yyp is a 3000 year old vampire who invented the internet [01:34] <Godismebot> This is commonly known [01:37] <Godismebot> Hi Salubri, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [01:39] <Jushiro971> Prove it [01:41] <SunXia> he never denies it [01:41] <SunXia> nor will he reveal his pretend age [01:43] <Godismebot> Yeah, just got my tickets to see Grace Potter [01:43] <Godismebot> *Yay [01:43] <Jushiro971> he never admit it [01:45] <Godismebot> He'll never admit it [01:45] <Godismebot> But we all know he is [01:53] <Jushiro971> ok [01:54] <SunXia> lol [01:54] <Jushiro971> im going to be super busy thi weekend [01:56] <SunXia> oh? [01:57] <Godismebot> http://bleach.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Does_bleach_have_any_Illuminati_symbolism_in_it [01:58] <Salubri> stupid [01:59] <SunXia> seriously [02:01] <SunXia> what do people have for breakfast because they arent with it [02:03] <Godismebot> You'd be surprised at just how stupid people can be [02:03] <Godismebot> Oh great, my j key is sticking, of all the keys that could get stuck, it had to be the j [02:04] <Jushiro971> poor j [02:05] <Godismebot> Sal, you see 209kenpachi's reply to you? [02:06] <Godismebot> I deleted it, nothing but harassment [02:03] <Godismebot> Oh great, my j key is sticking, of all the keys that could get stuck, it had to be the j [02:04] <Jushiro971> poor j [02:05] <Godismebot> Sal, you see 209kenpachi's reply to you? [02:06] <Godismebot> I deleted it, nothing but harassment [02:08] <Salubri> aww i missed it [02:08] <Salubri> wait ill check [02:08] <Godismebot> He certainly loves you [02:09] <Salubri> lol [02:10] <Godismebot> Apparently this site has an owner [02:11] <Salubri> this guy is such an idiot which is the reason i wrote what i wrote. He doesnt know anything about bleach. Ichigo isnt a shunpo master cause he wasnt using shunpo to appear behind byakuya its hyper speed combat. It amazes me that ichigo moving fast every so often means he can rated as someone who can do particular advanced techniques that he doesnt even know how to do himself. [02:12] <Godismebot> I tried to explain the concept of hyper speed combat to him once [02:13] <SunXia> yeah Ichigo has become competent enough to see Byakuya's movements but hes definitely not a master [02:13] <Godismebot> he raged hard when I would not let him change it [02:13] <Salubri> u ask a stupid question you get a stupid answer, or rather you get a answer you dont like cause you got called out for being stupid yourself [02:14] <Godismebot> I like his reasoning "She was not expecting him to sneak up behind her" [02:14] <Godismebot> Like anyone expects someone to sneak up behind them [02:16] <SunXia> Yeah lol i see Sui-Feng regularly tip-tow through Soul Society expecting people to sneak up on her [02:16] <Salubri> lol [02:16] <SunXia> but yeah, he surprised byakuya because of the speed his bankai afforded him thats the only reason hes not listed as a master [02:17] <Godismebot> Not to this guy [02:17] <Godismebot> That was pure shunpo skill [02:17] <SunXia> no it wasnt [02:18] <Godismebot> No no, hyperspeed combat only affects how fast he can swing his blade [02:18] <SunXia> thats like saying Sui-Feng's bankai is a Kido spell, they're too different attacks that just happen to send blasts at the opponent [02:18] <Godismebot> it offers him no other speed [02:19] <Salubri> im supposed to believe that a master of stealth, assassination and shunpo can easily be surprised by someone appearing behind her. Like if thats the case then she needs to quit her job or it may just be that person is as fast if not faster then her. Baraggan for instance had some tricks that surprised her, whether it was time dilation or sonido is up to debate but still we saw the difference in power between the two. [02:19] <SunXia> obviously it does since he assumes byakuya has sped up when hes actually slowed down due to the prolonged usage which he still has to train [02:20] <SunXia> and yeah Barragan was surprising her because he was slowing down time, i doubt thats what Kirinji does and thus stating him to be a shunpo master at this stage is simple [02:20] <Salubri> Beyond that the guy was in front of her a matter of feet away she was looking directly at him and next thing she knows he's behind her. Now i maybe wrong but since when can someone move out of your direct line of sight to behind you with about 5 -10 feet away from you and then appear behind you without you knowing in a matter of a second and then you dont call that high level speed. [02:22] <Godismebot> I would say ban the guy for being an idiot, but he is too much fun [02:23] <SunXia> its really not a jump to assume he has mastered it, 1) hes in the Royal Guard and 2) he took her by surprise, meaning she probably didnt follow his movements very well and shes the fastest bar Yoruichi [02:24] <Godismebot> I highly doubt that any members of the royal guard are practioners in any of the forms of Shinigami combat [02:25] <Salubri> i mean the funny thing is that this jackalop has us actually talking about this crap [02:25] <SunXia> yeah forget expert, they're clearly shit [02:26] <Godismebot> I like making fun of stupid people [02:26] <Godismebot> and this guy is clearly stupid [02:26] <Salubri> i feel stupid for entering this asinine conversation [02:26] <SunXia> and yeah Sal, thats one thing i never understand about users, that they whine and whine over the tiniest word they disagree with and behave as those it discredits the rest of the wiki as if we have nothing better to do than to discuss their whims [02:27] <Salubri> oh i love how he notes we are stupid and just stroking our egos [02:28] <SunXia> oh thats something we spend ALL our time doing [02:28] <Salubri> really this is a online wiki, my job is making sure its a quality content site, thats regardless of whether i agree with whats happening or not. [02:29] <SunXia> yeah true, like we disagree that Yammy should be considered the top Espada but in terms of the ranks we have been given thats wat we have to write [02:29] <Salubri> i disagree on how the story is unfolding but thats what i put down regardless [02:30] <Salubri> if ichigo was a shunpo master it would say that, but he's not [02:31] <SunXia> how stupid would i be if Ichigo was suddenly a shunpo master or a kido master [02:31] <Salubri> If Orihime had fullbring or her and ichigo were together it would say that [02:31] <Salubri> it would be stupid [02:31] <SunXia> so glad hes not but if he trained it would be some new battle styles [02:32] <Godismebot> Biggest think that would make me stop reading: If Ulquiorra came back [02:32] <SunXia> haha [02:33] <Salubri> true [02:33] <SunXia> we saw himm turn to dust, pretty sure hes a spirit so he shouldnt b back, unless kubo reveals that hes a vasto lorde and that those are formed from single spirits and he returns as a purified soul in SS [02:33] <Salubri> im kinda pissed with xcution being there [02:33] <SunXia> kugo at least should be in hell, giriko too, [02:34] <Salubri> whats next the bounts and inaba, maybe muramasa [02:34] <SunXia> attempted murder is a big no no in my sin book [02:36] <SunXia> hmm intriguing, such a HP geek, even in Harry Potter world, Tsukishima's powers are unforgivable, like the curse Imperio [02:37] <Salubri> you know what they got on the fan fiction wiki. Pretty interesting concept, They have a soul society for every continent. Like Britain, China, North America, Africa and Europe have their own version of Soul Societies. [02:39] <SunXia> i always did wonder about that because, well soul society is very Japanese [02:39] <Godismebot> Cause Kubo is very japanese [02:40] <SunXia> i sometimes wonder if its a massive world that covers each of the diverse societies or if it's just the Rukongai and the Seireitei and thats it [02:40] <Salubri> yea i thought that was pretty cool. I mean alot of stuff on the fan fiction wiki is overpowered and uninspired but i had to admit it was some creative concepts [02:40] <Godismebot> Kubo knows next to nothing about the world outside of Japan [02:40] <Salubri> they all start out that way and get taken to another level of unbalanced ridiculousness [02:40] <SunXia> yes but writers have to research god thats not really an excuse with today's technology [02:40] <Godismebot> Kubo doesn't even know a word of english [02:41] <SunXia> and yeah, some of their ideas begin intriguing but then they just go over the top to the unbelievable realm of nonsense [02:41] <SunXia> please the Japanese language encorporates a lot of english in its culture and adverts these days [02:42] <SunXia> even their TV logos have english letters [02:42] <Godismebot> and yet Kubo knows none [02:42] <Godismebot> he has admitted this before [02:42] <SunXia> besides knowing a language or not, doesnt mean he cant research cultures [02:43] <Godismebot> He can, but I don't think he is interested [02:43] <Godismebot> The only thing not japanese in Bleach is how the characters look [02:43] <SunXia> then he leaves it free for people to do that because it would be very lazy to assume everyone's afterlife will be japanese no matter where you are from [02:45] <SunXia> given how souls are recycled, its not a jump to assume that Soul Society is based of the group of people constantly passing through it so its not a massive leap to assume there is another place like soul society for each place in the world [02:46] <Godismebot> And the Vandenreich are only after the japanese soul society? [02:46] <SunXia> dont judge but when i was at uni and didnt have a lot of internet to use a month, i used to write fanfics to keep myself occupied and assumed it was like that the world over with different societies of souls [02:47] <Godismebot> A group hellbent on destroying everything is only going after one soul society? [02:47] <SunXia> well in feudal japan, they were only often after power in their own country [02:47] <Godismebot> And is there a different Hueco Mundo for every country too? [02:47] <SunXia> if they were hellbent on destroying everything they could mass murder humans and destroy the balance between the realms [02:47] <Salubri> http://bleachfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Britannia - http://bleachfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Aether - http://bleachfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Hemel - http://bleachfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Yāolù [02:47] <SunXia> dont see why not [02:48] <Godismebot> I don't buy it [02:48] <SunXia> Wow quite cool Sal [02:48] <Godismebot> Everything has always said that there is a singular Soul Society [02:48] <Salubri> Britain, North America, Africa and China [02:48] <SunXia> and the rest of the world is never mentioned outside of this one town in japan [02:48] <Godismebot> It has never been called the japanese Soul Society [02:49] <Salubri> idk [02:49] <Godismebot> It is just Soul Society [02:49] <SunXia> i doubt 80 districts is enough to contain the same amount of souls as there are on earth [02:49] <SunXia> doesnt sound plausible to me [02:49] <SunXia> same amount as in japan sure [02:49] <Godismebot> We have no clue how big each district is [02:49] <Godismebot> For all we know they could be as big as countries [02:51] <Godismebot> I think it is simply that Kubo chose to write a very japanese story because that is what he knows [02:51] <SunXia> and even then 80 countries is still small unless they are all as big as usa, russia etc and if everything is suddenly japanese then its a very unrealistic story in that even within the own confines of itsstory telling it is unbelievable [02:51] <Salubri> http://bleachfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Sao_Feng -- the soul king of china soul society [02:52] <Godismebot> Not really Sun [02:52] <SunXia> really [02:52] <Godismebot> The fact is that Kubo is not a cultured person [02:52] <Godismebot> he writes what he knows [03:07] <Salubri> so what your saying is the vandenreich maybe fighting a multiple front war [03:08] <SunXia> My point being, we dunno if SS is JUST the Rukongai [03:08] <Salubri> attacking all soul societies at once [03:08] <SunXia> no what im saying is that SS maybe a lot more that the japanese area it portrays [03:08] <Godismebot> The Vandenreich don't have the man power to do that [03:08] <Godismebot> Kubo said himself that they are a small group [03:09] <Salubri> seriously doubt it all these years and we only seen one corner of the area not likely [03:09] <Godismebot> Sun, then why is every member of the Gotei 13 japanese [03:09] <SunXia> my point is that like the real world, there may be vast space between areas of diverse cultures within SS [03:09] <Godismebot> Then why is there no diversity in the Gotei 13? [03:10] <SunXia> uh, thats my point, its unrealistic to assume that everyone is SS is japanese, we already know the Tosen clearly has an african past, hes african [03:10] <Salubri> thats funny, why do we listen to what kubo says the man is a liar. They dont have the manpower my ass, it looks to me that they had a lot of manpower, first the sternritter who regardless of not numberin in the thousands made up for it in power and then they had a whole bunch of low level troops that least numbered in the high hundreds if not thousand and still kicked the gotei 13's ass. [03:11] <Godismebot> Sun, so are you saying there are multiple Gotei 13s? [03:12] <Godismebot> Because from what we have seen, everyone has a japanese name, barring Sui-Feng [03:12] <SunXia> nope we dunno if theyd be called that, what im saying is thay SS could be massive, bigger than just the Rukongai, and that, given you can travel from the real world to the SS, its not far fetched to assume that you can walk to another ara of SS from say the US or otherwise [03:13] <Godismebot> So what you are saying is that only japanese people are strong enough to be captains then [03:13] <SunXia> and yes again i know that, remember, in Japanese history, with the establishment of the Shogunate, they started dispelling europeans so its not a massive deal for hundreds of years old spirits to be japanese thats fine [03:14] <SunXia> and Sui Feng is clearly of Chinese descent a closer neighbour than europeans if she has a chinese name, its not far fetched to assume [03:15] <Godismebot> I think the answers is simple. Everyone goes to the same Soul Society. Everyone lives in Rukongai [03:15] <Godismebot> You are trying to say that there are multiple Rukongais, but why can't all people live in the 80 districts? [03:15] <SunXia> meh maybe they do we dunno how big he made SS [03:15] <Salubri> iits more likely kubo just think japan is the center of existence thats kind of ingrained in their national identity [03:15] <Godismebot> ^ [03:17] <SunXia> probably buts its still not far fetched otherwise if another writer was given permission to expand upon it since it would be silly to assume they all only ever come to Japan [03:18] <Godismebot> We have seen next to nothing of Rukongai, it could be a lot more diverse than we imagined [03:18] <Salubri> that actually fits perfectly with the constant inconsistencies and plot holes kubo has created in the series [03:19] <Godismebot> like the giant plothole of the king's key not being a key [03:19] <Godismebot> even though we have been shown a key several times [03:20] <Godismebot> and told that the location of the key is hidden [03:20] <Godismebot> and its location kept a secret [03:20] <Salubri> arguably Soul Society should be extremely diverse in ethnicity if nothing else and it should be large enough to have about 6 billion souls as the balanced counterpart to the number of living beings on the planet [03:21] <Salubri> if that was the case though then the Gotei 13 would have to be extremely larger then it is as well. [03:21] <SunXia> im not saying there is but from the feudal nature of the Rukongai its not that crazy to assume that theres more out there, during the feudal era, foreign lands werent really existent to people so its not nutty to think that there maybe more out there, the Shinigami havent shown to go to war with themselves but merely take care of their jobs and eliminate threats and just simply govern their own lands [03:22] <SunXia> but yeah like Sal just said 13 captains for 7Billion + souls and growing?? not plausible in the least [03:23] <Godismebot> Since when has bleach been plausible? [03:24] <Salubri> i like my concept [03:24] <SunXia> well i doubt that we are meant to believe the rest of the world outside japan and karakura town doesnt exist [03:25] <Godismebot> Hey we know other places exist [03:25] <SunXia> within each story, there still has to be logic [03:25] <Godismebot> There is the town Keigo lives in [03:26] <SunXia> yes and mexico clearly exists and from the little birdy boy we know people dont change ethnicity when they die and move over to SS [03:27] <SunXia> if he didnt want these sort of assumptions or creations then he should have based his story somewhere not in the real world [03:31] <SunXia> and actually that Jade Emperor isnt a bad concept (im not reading onwards to ruin my mood) since he was a legendary chinese ruler [03:33] <Godismebot> Oh Sal, what do you think about the princess of Fiore possibly being the Jade dragon slayer? [03:33] <Salubri> i doubt that [03:33] <SunXia> isnt she sort of like Orihime hates doing bad things?? [03:34] <Godismebot> Her name means jade [03:34] <Godismebot> Sun, you haven't met the princess of fiore yet [03:34] <Salubri> i know but im certain his part in the story said he died long long ago [03:35] <SunXia> ive been to FT chat ive heard people talk of her [03:35] <Godismebot> Hmm, true [03:35] <SunXia> *read [03:35] <Godismebot> Something is up with him though, he was mentioned in the latest chapter [03:38] <Salubri> shit god get some bleach christmas theme stuff and backgrounds [03:38] <Godismebot> Has Kubo ever done a Bleach christmas spread? [03:38] <SunXia> uhm [03:39] <Godismebot> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A2ZjeVeVCbU/TRrB75GBnvI/AAAAAAAAAh0/CMOLly6-UUo/s1600/Bleach_Christmas_by_Neokillerqc.jpg is that christmasy enough? [03:40] <SunXia> hell i searched for xmas spread for blech and ended up with bleach:Hentai Christmas [03:40] <Salubri> yea the jade dragon Zirconis was killed by Aconologia [03:40] <Godismebot> lol [03:40] <SunXia> there have been christmas omakes [03:40] <SunXia> apparently [03:40] <Godismebot> Sun would end up on porn [03:40] <Salubri> we got anything better then that [03:41] <Godismebot> Thats the only official christmasy thing Kubo has drawn [03:42] <SunXia> http://www.bleachanime.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59620 [03:42] <SunXia> would need to search [03:42] <Godismebot> http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/27800000/bleach-christmas-bleach-anime-27851879-800-583.jpg this is fan art [03:43] <SunXia> yeah i saw that [03:44] <SunXia> the only official one i see is the one god showed or theres one with people lying on ground hopped up in the snow [03:44] <Godismebot> ....and I landed on my first hentai pic [03:45] <SunXia> lol [03:45] <Salubri> there has been bleach for years there has to be alot of christmas bleach stuff [03:45] <SunXia> first?? [03:45] <Godismebot> first one in doing this search [03:46] <SunXia> ah [03:46] <SunXia> thought you meant ever [03:46] <SunXia> yeah doing google search theres really nothing not fan art [03:46] <SunXia> this one did make me giggle http://s141.beta.photobucket.com/user/Sun_Xia/media/Happy_Bleach_New_Year_by_pink_pink.jpg.html [03:46] <Godismebot> Episode 303 was the only chistmasy thing [03:47] <SunXia> hmmm collage of pics?? [03:47] <Godismebot> Different art styles [03:47] <SunXia> you use Photo shop [03:47] <Godismebot> Wouldn't wor [03:47] <SunXia> ah [03:48] <Godismebot> I can only do so much in photoshop, I can't change how the pics are drawn [03:49] <Salubri> lol [03:49] <Salubri> u should try [03:53] <SunXia> well if you pull charas from anime like how you did the image unit logo?? [03:58] <Godismebot> Problem with that is there is no christmas stuff [04:08] <Godismebot> http://imgur.com/Cwpz8 how does that look? [04:09] <SunXia> would you be able to see their faces?? [04:09] <SunXia> in oasis i mean [04:11] <Godismebot> Damn, can't see anything http://godisme.wikia.com/wiki/Godisme%27s_Test_Page_Wiki?useskin=w [04:12] <Godismebot> There goes that idea [04:16] <Godismebot> http://godisme.wikia.com/wiki/Godisme%27s_Test_Page_Wiki?useskin=w that works [04:19] <SunXia> yeah [04:22] <Godismebot> http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=804 pick a font [04:23] <Godismebot> I think either Christmas Lights, Kingthings Christmas, Christmas Snow or Christmas Flakes [04:25] <Godismebot> Also, why are you still up? You are sick, you need sleep [04:25] <Godismebot> Go, sleep [04:26] <SunXia> yeah im going now i was finishing off this ep summary and then bed [04:26] <SunXia> that one that Juhako is listed as needs checking, at least one of th two images were mine, so im expanding it to a good state [04:26] <SunXia> right saving and night [04:27] <Godismebot> night [04:00] <Ultraprime2> Hey Sun. [04:09] <SunXia> hey [04:09] <SunXia> i have th niece with me shes a baby, shes 1 and messing my room up [04:11] <Ultraprime2> Sounds troublesome. [04:20] <SunXia> lol shes cool really [04:21] <Ultraprime2> Cool. I do have a question though. [04:21] <Ultraprime2> http://www.mangareader.net/94-465-1/bleach/chapter-11.html [04:21] <Ultraprime2> Are pages like this considered to be part of the manga? [04:33] <SunXia> it depends, sometimes you have people that put up fan art or ages that state the translators, that page was sktched by kubo so yeah thatone is official but pages that clearly arent like that or clearly not art of the manga need to be left out when counting pages for references [04:35] <Ultraprime2> I know we don't count fanart, but this page was official though it wasn't done in the regular manga style, so it confused me. So you say it should be counted when referencing? [04:43] <Ultraprime2> Hey God. [04:43] <Godismebot> Hey