Bleach Wiki:Chat/January 16, 2013

 [10:26]  Hi Mad Nation, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [10:27]  I read the rules, I have 10 edits @Bot [10:36]  Hi Jushiro971, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [10:45]  Hai God [11:03]  Hi Mad Nation, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [11:25]  Hi IchitoraZangetsu, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [11:26]  Hi Jushiro. [11:26]  Hai [11:27]  How big of a Bleach fan are you on a scale from 1-10? [11:27]  IchitoraZangetsu, you need 10 article edits to be here [02:27]  Hi KuroAshi98, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [02:29]  Hai K [02:43]  Hai J~ [02:54]  Hi MalwareGuru, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [03:07]  Hi Kevin Jetpack, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [04:09] <Godismebot> Hi Mohrpheus, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [04:10] <KuroAshi98> Hai Morph~ [04:10] <Godismebot> Oh hey, when did people get in here? [04:10] <Godismebot> Kuro, how many bottles of beer are left on your wall? [04:10] <Mohrpheus> Hello Kuro. And God. [04:10] <KuroAshi98> I've been here for almost two hours... [04:10] <KuroAshi98> And too many!! :'( [04:11] <Godismebot> ...I don't look at this screen enough [04:11] <Mohrpheus> Take one down, pass it around. [04:12] <Godismebot> Kuro had 3 million bottles of beer on his wall [04:13] <Mohrpheus> All relationships are off the wiki, right? [04:13] <Godismebot> Yes [04:13] <Godismebot> Should be at least [04:14] <Mohrpheus> Alright. Deleting that massive eyesore from the Numeros page then. Not really all that relevant anyway [04:15] <Godismebot> Kurosaki Family Hmmm, I never knew we had this article [04:16] <Mohrpheus> Oh wow. Seems a little... [04:16] <Godismebot> Yeah [04:16] <Mohrpheus> Eh. Handled fine as a category. [04:17] <Godismebot> Grrr, tf2op is down [04:17] <Godismebot> I need keys! [04:17] <Mohrpheus> Ah, Sal made it. [04:17] <Mohrpheus> Wait, last year? Oh wow. [04:17] <Godismebot> Well then, it is never coming down then [04:18] <Godismebot> We should have one for the Ishida family as well, considering we know about them as well [04:19] <Mohrpheus> So that would mean one for the Shibas, the Kuchikis, etc etc? [04:19] <Mohrpheus> Wait, they do have one [04:20] <Godismebot> Yep [04:20] <Mohrpheus> It really seems unnecessary. We already have categories for this kind of thing. [04:21] <Godismebot> I sort of agree with pages for the noble families [04:21] <Godismebot> As they have actual traditions and stuff [04:21] <Godismebot> Kurosaki family is not needed [04:22] <Mohrpheus> True. I suppose that means the Noble Families page could be watered down a bit. [04:24] <Godismebot> These damn sliders take forever to make [04:26] <Godismebot> Hi Salubri, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [04:32] <KuroAshi98> So, after EV'ing around 5-6 Pokemon, I can honestly say - I see very little difference lol [04:33] <Godismebot> Its the difference between base attack and max attack [04:33] <Godismebot> Of course, if you want truly perfect pokemon, you have to IV them as well, but thats ridiculous [04:34] <Mohrpheus> Yeah. You usually see those the most on simulators. [04:34] <Mohrpheus> Otherwise there's some nonsensically complicated way of doing it. [04:35] <Mohrpheus> Usually involves many generations of breeding. [04:35] <Godismebot> Or random number generators [04:36] <KuroAshi98> Lol yeah, I knew IV's were a factor [04:36] <KuroAshi98> But still, I usually get these results when training them normally :P [04:36] <Mohrpheus> Are they at level 100? [04:36] <KuroAshi98> Yeah [04:37] <Godismebot> Then you are unknowingly EV training [04:37] <Godismebot> In essence, all EV training is, is killing a bunch of the same pokemon repeatedly [04:39] <KuroAshi98> Lol I had a feeling that was the case, seeing as I train all my Pokemon from Lvl. 1 to 100 manually. :P No RC cheating.... [04:40] <Mohrpheus> You'd have to compare stats to be sure, really. [04:40] <Mohrpheus> And it's hard to tell the difference when the base Pokemon was strong to begin with :P [04:40] <Mohrpheus> [04:41] <Mohrpheus> Hm. I wonder if I'll be able to transfer my EV'd Pokes to Y... [04:41] <KuroAshi98> Ah well, 6 Pokemon down - another 24 to go~ [04:42] <KuroAshi98> They better introduce a transfer system that goes both ways again. It's annoying as hell that we basically lose half our teams [04:42] <KuroAshi98> Do the Gen I - II system, only Pokemon Gen I recognises can be returned. [04:44] <Godismebot> Its stupid that there is no trading between generations [04:44] <KuroAshi98> Ah well, I doubt I'll be getting XY on release. I don't even own a 3DS and it's not really worth buying a new handheld for just one game. :P [04:46] <Godismebot> I bought my 3ds for KH3D [04:49] <Godismebot> Its a pretty decent system and if you can find a used one, id recommend it [04:52] <KuroAshi98> Lol well I'll wait and see what people say about the new one, and if it's worth it I'll give it a go lol [04:52] <KuroAshi98> 3DS's a super cheap now anyway [04:53] <KuroAshi98> Seeing as it technically bombed :p [04:53] <Godismebot> Its a DS plus 3D technology [04:53] <Godismebot> Most people turn off the 3D, so they did not buy it [04:56] <KuroAshi98> I'll just see how it goes, cause right now I'm really not interested in XY [04:56] <KuroAshi98> Bloody Froakie lol [05:01] <Godismebot> Hi Kamikaze839, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [05:01] <Kamikaze839> hi guys [05:01] <Godismebot> Hi Lemursrule, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [05:02] <Lemursrule> hey [05:02] <Lemursrule> waiting for spoilers what are you guys doing [05:02] <Kamikaze839> should be getting to bed [05:03] <Lemursrule> okay night kami [05:03] <Kamikaze839> I'm procrastinating on getting to sleep [05:04] <Mohrpheus> New chapter tomorrow? [05:04] <Lemursrule> manga panda said so on twitter a few hours ago [05:05] <Kamikaze839> I'm looking through the wiki activity, and found a guy who thought it was a good idea to solicit money on a wikia [05:05] <Kamikaze839> and put it in viet [05:06] <Lemursrule> heh [05:06] <Kamikaze839> $250k is worth far more than the amount in vietnamese currency he put down on his post [05:06] <KuroAshi98> Yeah, should be another 4-5 hours [05:07] <Kamikaze839> 250 in US dollars [05:07] <Kamikaze839> wait no I read that post wrong, he is supposedly giving away money [05:08] <Lemursrule> I am waiting to see what Shueshia will do next, because sja and wsj starting next monday will be released on the same day, so how much longer are we going to get the chapter before the street date? [05:08] <Mohrpheus> Next chapter should be interesting. I just have that feeling. :/ [05:08] <Kamikaze839> yeah [05:08] <Lemursrule> I feel it too morph, usually Kubo has a good chapter the first jump back [05:09] <KuroAshi98> Hey, my hope is they'll make it international soon :P [05:09] <Mohrpheus> I'd consider SJA if there were more than three series I follow [05:10] <Lemursrule> The editors said they were intending to, I would not be surpassed if its international by the end of 2013, since it took them less than a year to simulcast the same day [05:10] <Lemursrule> surprized [05:11] <Mohrpheus> It's about time, really [05:11] <KuroAshi98> A whole year now...? *cries* [05:11] <Lemursrule> Its Shueshia's decision though, Viz is merely the american branch so the only have rights to the us and canada [05:11] <Godismebot> Did that SJA app hit android yet? [05:11] <Mohrpheus> To be honest, I'd still like to hear super official confirmation on their romanizations. [05:11] <Lemursrule> I believe it did [05:12] <Lemursrule> not sure though [05:12] <Lemursrule> it will be free with one or two stupid ad banners, but thats what we have on manga panda now so it really isn't that different [05:13] <Kamikaze839> I checked the droid market, it's up there [05:13] <Mohrpheus> Ooh. That's cool. I'm fine with ads unless they waste 30 seconds of my life. [05:13] <Lemursrule> Basically from what I understand their romanizations are what Shueshia tells them to put and things like "Halibel" are kept that way for the sake of continuity [05:13] <Mohrpheus> That's my understanding [05:14] <Kamikaze839> the app's permissions are shady though [05:14] <Lemursrule> basically they don't want you to repost crap on manga sites [05:15] <Kamikaze839> I doubt it morph [05:16] <Mohrpheus> That's a shame. [05:16] <Lemursrule> I thought about Neon Alley, but I really don't have to time to watch live let alone streaming anime [05:16] <Lemursrule> I know shueshia has basically a japanese version of jump alpha with chapters released on an app two days later [05:17] <Lemursrule> which is in both the app and android store I believe [05:17] <Mohrpheus> Hm. I've been giving Hungry Joker a chance. It seems, eh. I don't know what word to use. [05:17] <Lemursrule> Japan only though unless you have a Japanese account [05:18] <Lemursrule> Hungry Joker? [05:18] <Mohrpheus> I think that's what it's called. Newer manga series. [05:19] <Lemursrule> you mean Toriko or something else? [05:19] <KuroAshi98> http://www.kongregate.com/games/capricorngames/jumpingline Fun game~ [05:19] <KuroAshi98> I picked up one of Jump's newer series, Shinmai Fukei Kiruko-san [05:20] <KuroAshi98> Pretty cool stuff [05:20] <Lemursrule> ill check it out [05:21] <Mohrpheus> http://www.mangapanda.com/hungry-joker [05:22] <KuroAshi98> Plus its wiki is dead, so free project for me lol [05:22] <Mohrpheus> I wonder what's gonna end up replacing Naruto. [05:22] <Lemursrule> Morph sounds a little too deadman-esque to me [05:23] <Godismebot> Ten days or so until Deadman returns [05:23] <Lemursrule> yep can't wait [05:23] <KuroAshi98> The green-haired one even looks like a Deadman character :p [05:24] <KuroAshi98> Some mangaka got tired of the hiatus so he made his own series xD [05:24] <Godismebot> copyright violation or not? [05:24] <Lemursrule> nope its good [05:25] <Lemursrule> the fair use code or whatever says you can use up to 30 seconds of copyright material [05:25] <Mohrpheus> Never read Deadman before. The premise is hardly original though. [05:25] <Godismebot> Read deadman [05:25] <Godismebot> its fantastic [05:26] <Godismebot> gory and psychotic as hell [05:27] <Mohrpheus> I do tend to avoid series I find too similar to ones I like. That's why I never bothered with D. Gray Man or Soul Eater or whatnot. [05:27] <Lemursrule> Deicide is the only arc Pierrot didn't screw up on in my opinion [05:27] <Mohrpheus> Deicide was excellent. [05:28] <Lemursrule> In hindsight, I think Deicide was where the arrancar arc kind of redeemed itself for me, it was so different and dark and set a lot of things up for this arc [05:29] <Mohrpheus> The arc bored me pre-Hueco Mundo to be honest. [05:30] <Godismebot> It wasnt interesting until the final day of the arc [05:30] <Lemursrule> yeah the aizen evolution was ridiculous, and some characters risked everything and lost, that means a lot to me and Kubo said something about Rangiku coming up in this arc so I wonder what he is doing with her in this arc [05:30] <Mohrpheus> She is one of the Bankai hopefuls, I believe. [05:30] <Godismebot> Well, you know Kubo, if a character is meant to play a role in an arc, it means they will never be seen [05:31] <Godismebot> Kubo said if he gave Bankai to anyone, it would likely be Yumichika [05:31] <Godismebot> Which would be cool [05:31] <Lemursrule> I have a feeling she will have Bankai, because she really has been a prominent side character, so it would not be surpising [05:31] <Lemursrule> and Yumichika's bankai would be awesome [05:31] <Godismebot> Hi SunXia, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [05:31] <Lemursrule> sun [05:31] <Godismebot> She said she was trying to learn Bankai [05:31] <Godismebot> But Haineko was too stubborn [05:32] <SunXia> oh i hope she doesnt learn it otherwise its not the rare level we were led to believe in SS arc [05:32] <SunXia> and hey [05:33] <Lemursrule> which I think has to do with whatever energy or whatever was stolen, and perhaps she has personal issues that she can't trust her zanpakuto, which would make sense since a lot of the people in her life betrayed her trust [05:33] <Mohrpheus> I am still wondering about that. If it could still be relevant since the Hougyoku is still around. [05:33] <Lemursrule> I mean its been hinted for while the Rangiku had some hidden power [05:34] <Mohrpheus> Well, I don't know about that. But she certainly had enough to survive whatever they did to her. Other souls just got destroyed completely. [05:34] <Lemursrule> Sorry to say god, but Aizen while somehow loose his immortality and die before the end of the series, because no one would take him back [05:34] <Lemursrule> hopefully Aizen might redeem himself [05:35] <Godismebot> Aizen needs to just kill everyone [05:35] <Mohrpheus> His redemption has already been set up, unfortunately. The chances of Ichigo's speculation being BS is not likely. [05:35] <SunXia> redeem?? [05:35] <SunXia> are we wanting bleach to have a magneto character then?? [05:35] <Godismebot> Mohrph, I thought that was confirmed in one of the databooks? [05:35] <Lemursrule> I don't think Aizen is completely evil, just misguided…very misguided [05:35] <Mohrpheus> Not as far as I know. [05:35] <Lemursrule> Kubo likes xmen so its possible [05:35] <KuroAshi98> I reckon Bleach should have Magneto [05:35] <KuroAshi98> That's a crossover I can support :P [05:36] <Mohrpheus> That'd be a huge oversight on our part if it were. [05:36] <SunXia> oh SHIT [05:36] <Godismebot> ? [05:36] <SunXia> i just remembered what random multiple arm girl said that aizen was evil but these guys are eviler [05:36] <SunXia> NO no redemption [05:36] <SunXia> no want [05:36] <Godismebot> what? [05:36] <Godismebot> multiple arm girl? [05:37] <Mohrpheus> Senjumaru. [05:37] <SunXia> the royal guard [05:37] <Godismebot> ah [05:37] <Lemursrule> I don't the think the royal guard are being completely honest with Ichigo [05:37] <Lemursrule> is [05:37] <Godismebot> I think the Royal Guard clearly have their own agenda [05:37] <Godismebot> I dont think they will turn out to be evil like everyone wants, but I dont think they are necessarily there to help soul society [05:37] <Lemursrule> Aizen being "Evil" is too simple, why would they just randomly bring him up [05:37] <Mohrpheus> Well, Hidetomo (?)'s words did seem to imply that the Quincy's actions are at least somewhat justified. [05:38] <Godismebot> I mean, the Shinigami slaughtered the Quincy 200 years ago [05:38] <Lemursrule> Yes Aizen has done terrible, despicable acts of evil, but I still think he did what he did out of good intentions [05:38] <Godismebot> and as we are all guessing, there was likely a lot more to that than we know [05:38] <SunXia> ok more make up brushes arrive yesterday, this might be an obsession [05:38] <Lemursrule> just his approach was not the best [05:38] <SunXia> good intentions??? [05:38] <SunXia> he wanted to dethrone soul king [05:38] <Mohrpheus> Aizen apparently saw the Soul King, before. That's probably the most important detail. [05:38] <SunXia> and kill lots in karakura town [05:39] <Salubri> last i check it wasnt the royal guards job to help soul society [05:39] <Godismebot> Nope [05:39] <SunXia> thats gotei 13 [05:39] <SunXia> their job [05:39] <Lemursrule> because the soul king is obviously evil (at least in Aizen's view) that the soul king let acts of evil go bye and did nothing to help people [05:39] <Godismebot> Thats why I say they have their own agenda [05:39] <Salubri> maybe so but then again who doesnt [05:40] <KuroAshi98> Aizen knew about the surviving Quincy, and anticipating a revenger-war he experimented in ways to strengthen the Shinigami against the threat. [05:40] <KuroAshi98> Hollowfication, Kido, Hogyoku. All methods that could leave them at an advantage in the face of Juhabach. :P [05:40] <Lemursrule> The whole point of bleach is the irony of black and white not being a reality of the world, its a grey area, so having the royal guard being saints would contradict everything [05:40] <SunXia> i did have a more awesome image in my head of them [05:40] <Godismebot> Kubo needs to stop with the buffing characters up for a while and get to the history [05:40] <SunXia> lol Kuro [05:41] <Salubri> not evil, Aizen views him in his view as unnatural, what that is we dont know, apparently he has issue with not really "ruling". [05:41] <SunXia> yeah he does kinda hide a lot [05:41] <SunXia> and let so many souls live in squalor [05:41] <Mohrpheus> Well, to be honest, I do appreciate that these powerups are being done in a timely manner so far. [05:42] <Godismebot> I think at this point what we need is the history of the Quincy and the Quincy massacre 200 years ago and what really went on [05:42] <Lemursrule> Exactly so this is how its going to be, Aizen wanted to change the world for the better and he figured he was destined to save soul society and he would do it by any means necessary [05:42] <Godismebot> Because right now the Vandenreich have no motivation. I don't know why they are doing this, I dont care about them as villains right now [05:43] <KuroAshi98> I think we just need Ishida to turn up. [05:43] <KuroAshi98> I mean, the arc's meant to be about him haha [05:43] <Lemursrule> Its obvious the Kubo is setting up for the soul king to be the big bad [05:43] <KuroAshi98> What has he done so far? [05:43] <KuroAshi98> Eat bread? xD [05:43] <Godismebot> I highly highly doubt that Lemurs [05:43] <Godismebot> I have heard that theory for years and it makes no sense to me [05:43] <SunXia> sado did nothing in the FB arc [05:43] <Salubri> no aizen wasnt gonna save anyone, he was gonna rule his way, very actively like a tyrant [05:44] <Salubri> you see how he treats those below him [05:44] <Lemursrule> I have a gut feeling, Bach just does not feel final to me, just something seems off [05:44] <Mohrpheus> Well, we still don't know what encompasses "ruling." All we've seen from the King is sitting his ass in his cocoon all day [05:44] <Lemursrule> yeah so how much better or worse would have Aizen been, we don't know at this point [05:44] <Salubri> as far as soul king being bad, i dont find it likely, its based on interpretation, if anything the soul king seems largely indifferent [05:45] <Salubri> which could be the real problem [05:45] <Lemursrule> plus we know nothing on how Aizen became a soul reaper or much backstory on him at all [05:45] <Lemursrule> like I said aizen "believes" he's bad or unnatural [05:46] <SunXia> oh god NO dont Emo-size aizen PLEASE Kubo i cant take it after tobi [05:46] <Mohrpheus> I do think he was working towards a greater goal of some sort. He kept speaking of how the world "should be." [05:46] <Lemursrule> Do I think Aizen will be Jesus…no, but I can see him as being an anti-hero [05:46] <Mohrpheus> I'm sure he had some plan beyond "I want to sit on the throne." [05:46] <Salubri> the problem is that world is according to his interpretation [05:47] <Lemursrule> Thats what I think [05:47] <Lemursrule> well yeah thats an issue sal [05:47] <Lemursrule> but still aizen believed in his mind he was doing good and correcting the world [05:47] <Salubri> if anything, If juhabach isnt the final it will likely come full circle back to Aizen, which would mean something would cause his ultimate destruction, hogyoku or not. [05:48] <Salubri> it was never good, who was it good for, him [05:48] <Godismebot> I could see Aizen having planned for the Quincy to invade in order to set him free [05:49] <Godismebot> Hi Mohrpheus, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [05:49] <Lemursrule> it could go either way, but having Aizen being pure evil is too convent at this point. Aizen is obviously a deluded individual, and thought he was doing good, but did it at the expense of those around him [05:49] <Godismebot> Its not that he is pure evil, its that he likes control and wants to reshape things to how he likes it [05:50] <Godismebot> If he was pure evil, his goal would be the Vandenreich's - slaughter everyone [05:50] <Mohrpheus> I don't see Aizen trying to reenact his plan. [05:50] <Godismebot> Instead, his goal is simply to rule [05:50] <Lemursrule> exactly he's a megalomaniac [05:50] <Salubri> aizen will never be an anti-hero or anything like that, he has no redemption theres too much he has done to everyone that cant be redeemed. No one would forgive him but Momo, this wasnt little stuff Lemure [05:50] <KuroAshi98> Hungry Joker - and by the third page a woman's breasts become the object of conversation~!! [05:50] <Godismebot> Kuro has a new favorite series [05:50] <Lemursrule> hahah [05:51] <SunXia> breasts..... [05:51] <Lemursrule> oh noes [05:52] <Mohrpheus> - [05:52] <Lemursrule> regardless of Aizen. Having Bach as the villain kind of goes against bleach's past setups. Example: SS Arc we thought Gin was the enemy, yet Aizen turn out to be the real antagonist [05:52] <Lemursrule> Lost Shinigami arc we thought Tsukishima was the villain yet Ginjou turned out to be the real antagonist (well sort of). Just going by past patterns [05:53] <Salubri> i never thought Gin was the bad guy [05:53] <Mohrpheus> Well, maybe that's exactly why he should be the villain. [05:53] <Lemursrule> true [05:53] <KuroAshi98> No no, I just think it's funny [05:53] <KuroAshi98> It's like the generation of fanfic writers are finding actual jobs [05:53] <Godismebot> The real villain is:.... Zennosuke [05:53] <SunXia> gin was a clear red harrin [05:53] <SunXia> *herring [05:54] <Salubri> Actually Tsukishima was still the bad guy it was just unknown at the point so was everyone else in xcution [05:54] <KuroAshi98> Cause usually in a fanfic they always draw attention to how big the female protag's boobs are [05:54] <Lemursrule> Kubo just has a pattern of deception so why would he change his style 12 years later [05:54] <KuroAshi98> As if the drawings didn't tip us off lol [05:54] <Lemursrule> true sal [05:54] <Godismebot> To avoid becoming predictable [05:54] <Godismebot> Thats why [05:54] <Salubri> if anything the thing we are missing is whats Juhabach's motive [05:54] <Lemursrule> so i'm wondering if Bach is a red herring too [05:55] <Mohrpheus> I am suspicious of Hashvalt or whatnot. [05:55] <Godismebot> That is wat I have been saying, Sal [05:55] <Salubri> we dont know thats whats throwing us off, i cant speak for you guys but i already know whatever it is doesnt justify remotely what he is doing [05:55] <Salubri> for me [05:55] <Lemursrule> that I agree with sal [05:55] <Godismebot> I think there is far more to the Shinigami - Quincy relations than we know of [05:56] <Lemursrule> obviously [05:56] <SunXia> in the end bach killed Yamamoto hes more than just a red herring [05:56] <Lemursrule> like any government or organization they don't release everything to the public [05:56] <SunXia> unless someone pretended to be him again [05:56] <Mohrpheus> I am still wondering if there was a point where the Dangai never existed. [05:56] <Salubri> back to Kubo he has placed to many inconsistencies and plot holes for a while now, its not really coming together in this arc it seems disjointed, maybe he really is tired of the series [05:56] <Godismebot> There was a third brother! [05:56] <Lemursrule> which is entirely possible [05:57] <Mohrpheus> tomorrow [05:57] <Mohrpheus> Lloyd Lloyd. [05:57] <Godismebot> lol [05:57] <Lemursrule> lol [05:57] <Salubri> it happens to writers sometimes they just arent inspired by the series any longer. [05:58] <Salubri> No their brother is Boyd Lloyd [05:58] <Lemursrule> or barry bonds [05:58] <KuroAshi98> I like this kid's naming logic. [05:58] <KuroAshi98> Giant, mutated monster-corpse. [05:58] <KuroAshi98> "I'll name him James!" [05:58] <Mohrpheus> I think he just tried something new to inject crisis into the series, and ended up overdoing it. [05:58] <Salubri> ill tell you one thing the gorty guy has one more week after that all his pics gotta go, he has never edited on this site and he's been here since dec 28th [05:59] <SunXia> hahaha Royd and Loyd doesnt one of those letters not exist in Japanese [05:59] <SunXia> THANK YOU SAL [05:59] <SunXia> hate when people just edit their user page [05:59] <Godismebot> Frankly, I have been far more interested in FT than Bleach for the past few months [05:59] <Godismebot> I already told Gorty to start editing the wiki [05:59] <Godismebot> So if he doesnt want to edit, he can go to the fan fiction wiki [05:59] <Salubri> me too, i wonder why erza lied to kagura though [06:00] <Godismebot> To protect Jellal obviously [06:00] <Godismebot> I mean the girl is in love [06:00] <SunXia> shall watch ncis if FT talking [06:00] <Salubri> kagura cant hurt Jellal, i mean really come on [06:00] <Godismebot> Sorry Sun [06:00] <Mohrpheus> Well, didn't what's his face die to protect her? [06:00] <Godismebot> Simon [06:00] <Mohrpheus> That cliche crap where characters are insecure with their own weakness. [06:00] <Salubri> yea he killed himself [06:01] <Godismebot> Wasnt he in love with Erza? [06:02] <Godismebot> But yeah, Erza is madly in love with Jellal, she would do anything to protect him [06:02] <Godismebot> Even though Jellal could likely crush Kagura with his pinky [06:03] <KuroAshi98> Damn it Morph [06:03] <KuroAshi98> Hungry Joker is actually pretty cool [06:03] <Salubri> i just dont like how that played out though, I dont doubt that Kagura is good like Grey level good but i dont think she is Erza good, we have seen Erza with her skill and level for a while now, i find Kagura's level to be B.S. besides Fairy Tail needs to win this championship or else they cant continue as a guild. Hence why i knew Natsu would beat sting and rouge no matter how supposedly powerful they were [06:04] <Mohrpheus> I think Quatro Puppy is going to win. [06:04] <Godismebot> I think Kagura is definitely on Erza's level. Erza is strong but Kagura has not even unsheathed her sword yet [06:04] <Godismebot> I think Mashima's intention with her from the beginning was to create a foil to Erza [06:06] <Salubri> i think the fact that her greatest asset is releasing a sword proves she is below Erza besides if she was as good she would have a reputation like all powerful wizards do. [06:06] <Godismebot> From what I understand, Mermaid Heel is a relatively recently formed guild [06:06] <Mohrpheus> Well, they've been gone for a while. I doubt they know much about everything anymore. [06:07] <Godismebot> Kagura has likely never been in the spotlight before [06:07] <Godismebot> And don't forget, Kagura also has gravity magic [06:07] <Salubri> yet during the entire tournament everyone else is recognized and she is only recognized as a mage of mermaid heel [06:08] <Godismebot> I have no doubt that Erza will win the match, but I think Kagura is definitely on her level [06:08] <Salubri> lets face it there is no foil for erza anymore then there is one for zeref [06:08] <Godismebot> Like I said, she has likely never been in competition before [06:08] <Godismebot> Mashima made it seem like this is Mermaid Heel's first year in the tournament [06:09] <Salubri> i call duece ex machina on her random appearance in this arc [06:09] <Lemursrule> heh [06:09] <Godismebot> I also don't think anyone will win the tournament, something will happen which causes the tournament to end and eclipse will have to be used [06:10] <Mohrpheus> Assuming the prophecy or whatnot isn't fulfilled [06:10] <Godismebot> There is a reason Lucy came to the past and persuaded Hisui into doing this [06:10] <Salubri> you notice they have yet to explain what "future" lucy said will happen [06:11] <Salubri> which alot of people doesnt seem to believe will even happen [06:11] <Godismebot> and what happens is likely huge as it looks like Lucy has either lost her right arm or its badly damaged as she cannot write with it [06:13] <Godismebot> Hi Dizrain, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [06:13] <Godismebot> We'll see how it plays out, but knowing Mashima and his love of time travel, things are going to be huge [06:13] <Godismebot> Dizrain, you need ten article edits to be here [06:13] <Lemursrule> Dizrain you need 10 edits to be here [06:13] <Dizrain> oh... sorry... [06:13] <Salubri> if fairy tail doesnt win thats the nail in the coffin for them, they need the money. [06:14] <Mohrpheus> The tournament's not gonna matter much if Acnologia shows up and roasts everybody. [06:14] <Godismebot> I dont think the tournament will happen. My guess, Acnologia comes and kills everyone [06:14] <Salubri> that already happened [06:14] <Godismebot> Acnologia was said to be the bringer of doom and a servant of Zeref [06:14] <Godismebot> He is involved in this [06:15] <Godismebot> Something has to happen that will cause them to use Eclipse [06:15] <Godismebot> This is playing out very similar to RAVE [06:16] <Salubri> or they could just use it like they were gonna do in the first place, in fact it was already used they wanna use it again [06:16] <Godismebot> Which by the way, you should all read [06:16] <Mohrpheus> What are the chances of them actually beating Zeref with it though? [06:16] <Godismebot> Probably high [06:16] <Godismebot> Zeref wanted Natsu to kill him [06:17] <Godismebot> This is his chance [06:17] <Salubri> its a time machine they wont defeat him with it, they go back in time when he wasnt as powerful or more vulnerable and then use it [06:17] <Mohrpheus> Well, that's what I mean. [06:18] <Godismebot> I still like a theory I heard saying that the Dragon Slayers are from the past [06:18] <Mohrpheus> So we'll probably see Acnologia as a human if it comes to that. [06:18] <Godismebot> That they somehow traveled to the future unknowingly [06:18] <Salubri> the method behind this is ridiculous no one seems to know zeref wants to die and has been waiting for someone powerful enough to do it [06:22] <Godismebot> I think it will all play out well. Mashima did time travel in Rave and it was very interestingly done [06:22] <Salubri> everyone thinks he is trying to destroy them when really they are fighting creations from his past work [06:23] <Godismebot> Read Rave, you'll like it