User talk:Minato88

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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Arrancar109 (Talk) 23:23, September 29, 2009

Archiving of Talk Page
Since your Talk Page seems to be one of the most active ones, the archive facility may be quite useful for you to help keep the page a manageable size. In case you are unfamiliar with what the archive is, it is a sub-page of your user page where you can store some or all of the old posts from your talk page without actually deleting them. Not only will it free up space on your Talk Page, but you (& anyone else) will be able to click on the archive link on your talk page to review the old posts. You can create an archive on your page by following these instructions: Help:Archiving talk pages. Let me know if you have any questions on it. --Yyp 17:24, November 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Your archive seems to have ended up as a free floating page, so I moved to where it belongs. --Yyp 15:41, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I think that the link that those instructions tell you to create is the problem. It needs to be changed to User talk:username/Archive 1, but I can't alter what it says as the page is stored on the central wiki and cannot be edited by us. Next time you do it, you can just copy/paste the existing one, and name it archive 2. --Yyp 16:02, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome and thanks for the high praise. --Yyp 16:22, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Policy Standards Committee
Hey, I saw that you put your hand up for the committee. Good for you. I believe the admins are discussing things now but I don't see any reason why you wouldn't get confirmed. Anyway, if you do get confirmed (and I don't see why not), then I was wondering if you would like to take charge of the Anime Summary Project since you are mainly an anime fan. Obviously that doesn't mean I want you to write all the episode summaries. Just be the main person co-ordinating things since most of the time I can devote to the wiki is pretty much being taken up by the volume summary project. Also User:JohnnyLightning has been spending a lot of time and effort writing the episode summaries but he has been inserting personal opinions and slanting the summaries not quite neutrally. So part of your duty would be to get in touch with him and see if he is still interested in writing episode summaries (he has been warned by admins and that can take the wind out of your sail) and then work with him to either quality check his work or just help him with hints and tips. You would also have to be in-charge of the project summary page and make sure episodes that have summaries are taken off the list and when an arc is done, the next arc is put up properly. Anyway, let me know if you are cool with that and good luck getting confirmed for the committee. Tinni 03:15, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Hi Minato. Thanks for volunteering for the Policy & Standards Committee. A decision has not been made yet, but I just wanted to let you know that we had seen your offer and that it is currently under consideration. --Yyp 17:24, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Policy & Standards Committee
As affirmed by the other Admin they agree with the nomination. You therefore have been made a lieutenant on the wiki and therefore now possess rollback rights (side note: please dont abuse it, otherwise the other admin will come down on your head with a wrath and take it away). Also you are now the 2nd Seat of the Bleach Wiki:Policy & Standards Committee also reached through the community sidebar or just community page. Familiarize yourself with the additions on there as well as the Bleach Wiki:Policy and corresponding policies if you haven't already. so discussions are easier and have more room they can be had on the discussion page of the Policy & Standards Committee. Congrats. Salubri 05:50, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! I have already put you down as the primary contact person for the Anime Summary Project. Thanks again for taking that over. Good luck with it and congratulations again! Tinni 06:03, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Just wanted to extend my congratulations. Since you did those three episodes yesterday, I've been thinking about how best to include Inoue/Sado's powers and things like the Senkaimon. I'll be posting something about the format of Powers & Tech section shortly on the anime project page for everyone to discuss. It's just my suggestion on a standard to use, but it may need some adjusting. I've tried to include examples of everything I could think of in it. --Yyp 11:26, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Anime Summary Project
Congrats on joining the Policy & Standards Committee and for becoming the spearhead of the Anime Summary Project!

I had mentioned this to Salubri a while back, but since you're essentially in charge of that stuff now, I thought I'd bring it to your attention. I've noticed recently that some of the added summaries (not yours, just generally added summaries) contain quite a few weird asides, opinionated comments, odd descriptions of things, and the like. Yyp and I have both been attempting to clean them up, off and on, but some of the summaries are quite long and we can only do so many at a time.

I thought, then, it might be good for you and anyone else who's going to assist in the Anime Summary Project to go over currently existing summaries with a critical eye, just so we can get the best, most useful summaries possible. Do you think you'd be able to look into this? Twocents 19:33, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into it! And I'll try to remember that you're male in the future. I'm sorry for any offense that might have caused! Twocents 17:32, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Anime project
Thanks for the invite, I'd love to help. I'm going to be away for a week next week but before and after that I'll lend a hand. BollyW 22:35, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I haven't seen any of the episodes from early in the run, but if it's ok with everyone, I'll make a headstart on some later stories than what you're doing now.

PS For Shikia and Bankai sections, how you create a redirect to that particular bit of a character's page? TomServo101 16:26, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Hey there minato. I don't really know what the Anime Project means but either way I don't really have time to invest in any project right now, you'll notice I mostly do sporadic minor edits here and there the past month or so (since the school year started). But thanks for the invite. I'll try to contribute as much as I can without commitments :) Weedefinition 18:30, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I was gonna write to you sooner but I badly needed a shower. I don't think my summery was too thorough. When I said I was more thorough whaat I meant was adding the characters and the Kakaku Shahou Niban Kagizaki to powers and abilities, which I thought was a pretty impressive technique, one of the most impressive in the series. Your edit only mentioned an unknow Kido. What did you mean by that, BTW? Anyways, I have pretty good writing skills (even though I'm not a native English speaker so if I make a stupid mistake don't hold it against me), So my contribution could be to go over whatever is written and sorta clean it up, that is if you really think my summeries are too long. please tell me what you think. Weedefinition 00:52, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Re: unknown Kido It is a Kido, you were not wrong about that. I actually got the name of the technique from Ganju's page. The only problem is it didn't have the Japanese name in Kanji :( {I'm a perfectionist of sorts} I'm signing off, maybe I can do some more editing tomorrow and during the weekend ;) Weedefinition 01:20, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Committee Prospects
Firstly, Ethelion is a bad choice because no way in hell are the adimins going to approve Ethelion. Long story, don't want to go into it but let's just say that Ethelion has managed to antagonise more then one admin. The others are alright but you must remember that part of the duty of a member would be to help with the projects. I.e. write summaries. None of them ever have. So this must be made very clear to them. I.e. When you contact them and invite them to either nominate themselves or nominate them yourself, they must be winning to write at least one chapter or anime episode summary a week. That would effectively be their biggest duty, aside from watching for vandalism or quality checking. Those guys generally do quality checking just fine. But the writing summary thing would be something new. So just check they are on board with that before either they nominate themselves or you nominate them. Assuming that is, any of them want the responsibility :) Tinni 00:42, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Well TomServo101 comes to mind. Maybe Mohrpheus but again I am not sure any of them would be interested in the increased responsibility and the need to write either a chapter summary or an episode summary for the two projects. But you can always ask. Tinni 03:29, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

None of the other seats have any formal responsibilities. They CAN opt to associate themselves with either the manga summary project or anime summary project exclusively. Or they can start a project of their own, you know something they are passionate about. Like a project to quality check powers and abilities sections or a project to complete the "fights" things or whatever. Generally, however, they will be required to undertake the general responsibilities of the committee. Which is, contribute towards one or more committee projects per week. Patrol recent changes, especially to high risk articles. Use their rollback privileges to undo vandalism and generally quality check articles and flag any major issues they find in regards to articles etc. Tinni 13:10, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry to hear that you don't have any free time. But don't stress-out too much about it. This is suppose to be fun afterall. If you can't be on, you can't be on. I won't be on for the next two weeks. Don't worry, it shouldn't even notice it. Yyp and Twocents can handle the Volume Summary project and unless Mohrpheus backs out, he'll most likely be accepted into the commitee. Feel free to ask him to help you with the Anime Summary project. You know, you told me you were having a difficult time managing it. So just ask him to help you with the management since you have so many people writing summaries for you already. Tinni 22:20, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Policy and Standards Committee
I am interested in this position. However, I would like more info as to what would be expected of me in this position. Thanks for your consideration.--Kisukeiscool100396 04:22, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

All right I'll join but I might not be on the wiki alot--Kisukeiscool100396 19:14, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Oh no I'm just saying that I'm very busy this week.--Kisukeiscool100396 23:56, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Volume summary project
If they are willing to help the volume summary project that would be great. But I gather a lot of them are anime only fans and so aren't familiar with the volume chapters. But do tell them that they can get the chapter online and so they can read and try their hand at summarizing. Also, you can put your name as anything you want on the committee page. I just thought you had adopted a new name but if that's not the case, then by all means change it back. Just remember to use the same name consistently on the committee page. I.e. when you please messages on the committee, use Minato. This is just to avoid confusion. Tinni 02:04, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry but
I don't think I'm ready for the Policy and Standards Committee yet :( Please don't be mad at me or think of me as a problem but I have changed my mind. I'm really really sorry. if you can take me off the list that would be great. Again I'm sorry.--Kisukeiscool100396 02:23, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for understanding.--Kisukeiscool100396 02:41, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

SalmanH
Sure go ahead. Recruiting is difficult. So don't lose heart. Well find more people! Tinni 08:38, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Hi Minato, first off I'd like to say thank you for considering me for that position but before I go any further with this could you summarize what it entails?--SalmanH 10:00, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Title was picked by Salibur not me. But I like the idea of Taicho too! I think I might go change it, just to make it more fun and all! Tinni 13:45, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

This is actually the sort of thing I've been doing myself for a while now, however (I'm not that fond of sugarcoating unless there's a high risk) I'm pretty busy myself as I recently started my second year of IGCSE and it's kind of tough, secondly what I do on this wiki is because it's fun and somewhat relaxing and If I join the committee (which by the way is an ingenious idea to get some of the workload off the admins/bureaucrats) then it would feel like work and it would take the fun out it. I do apologise however I can recommend a couple of people, hope it helps: Lia Schiffer Tomservo101 --SalmanH 13:59, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry that it didn't work out but that's the nature of things. A new committee like this has a lot of teething problems and it is very formal. However the people on your list all sound like good options. Tinni 14:12, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

They are really good users, polite, kind, courteous, aware of what he rules are.--SalmanH 15:03, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

hi
hi..oh i heard that u jioned the policy and standers committy congragulations on that cyaRAZOR 16:28, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Mistake on Talk Page
Hi Minato, don't really know ya too well but you put a message addressed to Kisuke on my talk page, presumably by accident. Just wanted to point that out in case there was a typo or something. Thank you very much. Mohrpheus 18:40, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ah, that's good. I'd very well be interested in joining. I would just have to know more about what I would have to focus on as the 3rd seat. Mohrpheus 20:44, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Seeing as I do several things on that list of my own accord anyway, I'd be glad to have you nominate me. I get on frequently enough, as is. Mohrpheus 20:55, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, noticed you are back so I hope you had a good thanksgiving. Also noticed that you nominated Mohrpheus, that's great. The admins are voting on him now. He should be get in. Anyway, just wanted to touch base with. Let me know if you are having any issues. Tinni 11:48, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

hi
i have a question..u said u r a various gundam fan... well does that include the gundam seires where the characters had to ware a rubber suit to control the gundams movments..also the main character had an ace of spades tatto on his hand..well if so do u no the name its been buggin me 4 awhileRAZOR 16:54, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Vandal has been dealt with
Thanks for the heads-up and undoing his vandalism. He has been blocked and all his edits are now undone. And welcome back, btw. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving. --Yyp 21:38, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Thanksgiving isn't actually a holiday here, but thanks. I'll put Mohrpheus' nomination up on the admin talk page. --Yyp 21:48, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Kenpachi
ya, he'll probable be the one who kills yammy,and what ever happened about him discovering some kind of new shikai? and i don't i don't have a facebook sorry.Soul reaper magnum 02:17, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

yo im back
hey im back sorry ive been gone. i been doing my edits back on nintendo wiki. and on the anime summary project where some of the episodes say finished, you need to add their links, the characters and powers used, i have already finished the summaries of them.

GAME SAGE  J  o  n  a  t  h  a  n   S  m  i  t  h 

hi
hi...and u just might no me from another websight...maby even another wikia...well my names Dillon...if u heard my name b4 u prob saw it on vampire knight wikia or from someone elseRAZOR 16:41, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Admin & User page enquiries
As far as I know we're not looking to recruit any more admins right now. I think I looked over Gold3263301's contributions when I first saw his request & there was no problem, so I think he would make a good member of the committee if he wishes to join. I'll raise the issue again on the admin talk page. If it is confirmed that we're not looking for more admins, I'll let him know about the committee.

About the user pages: You can see what I said about Eliskuya2 and his profile on the admin talk page. I have been thinking about doing something on that issue recently. I'll raise it again as it seems to have fallen by the wayside. Sajin444's edit count is fairly low, so I wouldn't worry too much about it, but I'll give him/her a reminder about it. Best not let it continue like that as you say.

As far as I can tell from looking through the history of his user page & contributions of himself and the others that edited that page, Steveo920's user page was not deleted for anything that he did. He did not have any edits on it. Somebody else posted random spam on it and it got wiped clean. Unless I'm missing something there? -- Yyp  (Talk)  22:29, December 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, right. Got it now. -- Yyp  (Talk)  22:36, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

No problem. About Gold3263301, we're not taking on more admins atm, so I'll let him know that now and tell him about the committee. I'll let him know to contact you for more information on it, since you are doing a good job with handling the recruitment. -- Yyp  (Talk)  21:38, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Committee Ordeal
Yes it was originally supposed to be eight but i figured that there was too many so i lowered it to 5. On the other note I understand your points entirely so this is what I'll put forth. The committee should be more about the contributions to making the wiki better. As formal as some of the stuff can be it really doesn't need to be, as well its not necessary for everyone to jump to be in the committee because lets face it some people are not cut out for the responsibility of something official hence why everyone isn't a admin. So don't worry about if no one is jumping to the chance to be on the committee it will come in time. As well as yes there are alot of possible projects namely (fights/events/battles/invasions) my personal project still working that out. I also think think that given the amount of work that will have to go into it Rukia, Ichigo and Renji's pages cause they are far too much work, most importantly Ichigo. Another project would be the other media, thinking of expanding the movies, games information onto there own linked pages. Those are off the top of my head right now but there maybe others later. In any case just worry about the current projects and maybe a subcommittee section can be added on the committee main page so that we can have a running listing of those helping on what be they regular users or admin, something informal just a listing. Salubri 23:18, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Commitee
Sure, I'd be happy to; I'm looking for a good chance to be of more use around here. So yes, put me up for nomination if you think I'm up to it. Thanks for the vote of confidence! TomServo101 23:29, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Joining the Commitee
I am interested to join the commitee. (I'm not sure if I should put it here, or on the other page, but Yyp told me you are recruiting, so...) --Gold3263301 22:24, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

That would be great. Thanks! --Gold3263301 22:37, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

RE:Central Wiki
Yea I got it. why?

Uryu's Page & Custom sig

 * 1) I'll look into it. I think I saw that before and dismissed it as a mistake by the translator, but I'll give it another look.
 * 2) Change the sig colour in preferences. Add the following to the custom sig field, replacing the string of numbers/letters with the code of the colour you want (Help:Color). That should work. -- Yyp  (Talk)  21:20, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Minato88

What I posted above is exactly what I am using (minus the talk page link and with your name instead of mine), so it should work. Have you seen the Help:Signature page (sorry, thought I included that link above, but apparently not)? Looking at the code in your sig in the diff view and what actually appears on the page, there is a lot of extra code that I do not know what it is for. I'd say get a simplified version of it working first, save it somewhere in case you need to undo it later, then start building it up. -- Yyp  (Talk)  22:30, December 4, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know what's happening there. This is, word for word, what I have in my custom sig field


 * Yyp  (Talk)

Maybe it needs the whole lot of that to work, but I don't see why it would, since the first half is a proper link in its own right. Anyway, try that. -- Yyp  (Talk)  22:44, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Easy mistake to make. Seems to be working fine now. I don't have anything in mind right now, but I'll let you know if I have any projects. -- Yyp  (Talk)  22:59, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

4kids
you hear that 4kids went bankrupt?Soul reaper magnum 02:59, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

lol, ya i wonder what will happen to 5d's now?Soul reaper magnum 19:47, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

have you found out anything else about 5d's? i'v been looking around at some character lists and there are confirmed voice actors for character that haven't appeared yet in the dub.Soul reaper magnum 06:01, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Template
You mean this:

? Those are to prevent sections from running together by moving text etc down until it reaches the next line which has no pictures/infoboxes etc on it. If that is not what you mean, then use the ignore wiki formatting button (the letter W in a red circle with a line through it) above the edit window to post the code of what you are referring to. -- Yyp  (Talk)  18:36, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

No problem. -- Yyp  (Talk)  19:09, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Committee update
We saw Animeluvr92's request and are considering it. About the other two, I don't mind if you want to swap them around. As for our consideration of the nominations, we're still looking at it and no firm decision has been taken as yet on any of them. -- Yyp  (Talk)  19:09, December 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * We'll take that into account, thanks. Though it is not so much about how many edits they have. Since it is the committee's job to do summaries and undertake any upcoming projects etc, we need to be able to see how they handle big tasks like doing a summary. We're having a hard time saying saying that they are up to it based on what they've shown so far (though all three have shown potential). Anyway, it's not decided yet, we'll see what Salubri & Arrancar109 think on that first. -- Yyp  (Talk)  20:11, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Reference
Hi, Minato. I read over the arc in which Ichigo trained with the Vizards, but not once is the concept of energy absorbption mentioned. In fact, they don't really elaborate on the exact source of their power at all. I'll look through some of the fights Ichigo has been in, but I am pretty sure that nothing of the sort has ever been said. Mohrpheus 18:42, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Initiation
I suggested it as an idea on the page for you. Twocents 20:38, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism
I know it wasn't directed towards me, but I already did. Arrancar109 20:03, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

tosen
have you checked out kaname tosen's forum yet?Soul reaper magnum 00:47, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

i'v been wondering myself, arrancars are hollows with soul reaper powers and the vizards are the opposite but the vizard is the name of there group not what they are so they must have some other name to be classified as.Soul reaper magnum 01:26, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

they probably are. and with 5d's i'm just hoping the voices stay the same. i don't know if i'd like it with the different with new ones.Soul reaper magnum 02:47, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

i'm hoping they all stay the same, what is that abridged thing about? i saw it some where else but i didn't read it.Soul reaper magnum 03:30, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Logeys
Thanks for the information! I'll go check it out now; I just got back from eating dinner, so I apologize for the delay. I had spoken to him about following the manual of style several times yesterday (four, I think) and Yyp and Arrancar109 had spoken to him about it before. Yyp had read over my statements yesterday and said they made sense, so I really can't see how he could be distressed over the matter when he continued to ignore the manual of style. But I'll go see what he said. Twocents 00:51, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Toshiro's Bankai
The edits seem to have been reverted back to two sections. This wasn't my doing, but I still believe that it is correct. See the reasoning on the talk page; I hope it will change your mind. Magugag 03:56, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Not a problem. Keeping information accurate and complete is a good thing, and that's all you were trying to do. Magugag 04:03, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

ReAbridged Series
i know what your saying about the red flag thing i had two friends on YouTube that got band for uploading episodes of bleach and 5d's. and i'd tryed to watch some other animes but it said i couldn't because of copy right restrictions.Soul reaper magnum 04:05, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Kidou Talk item #23
I checked it out, and gave my data on it. Silvercrys was correct about the errors, but take a look at what I said yourself to be (more) sure. It's the same kind of thing that doubtless plagues many of the articles, of the same like as the errors in Barragan and Yammy's Zanpakutou names' kanji you mentioned on other talk pages. I wonder where these people cook up these completely wrong characters? Japanese spoiler sites they can't read but will copy and paste from? It's a mystery. Adam Restling 05:01, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Templates
Check this revision, and you'll know what I mean:. Arrancar109 06:37, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I left your translations intact; I undid the template, not the translation corrections. Arrancar109 06:45, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Arrancar109 07:00, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

I have been using text mode. Under the text box, there should be a list of templates and symbols to use. If you're clicking that, then it should look like this:.

Essentially, you click the down there and then type in the word. Next, you should click the | symbol, which you add the Kanji next. Finally, you click the | again and type in the meaning of the word. You do this all within the brackets, and it should come out like this: (which I know I already posted above; ).

Now, if you have been doing it this way, then I can't tell you why it's not showing up like that, but this is all the help I can provide on the matter, as while that newer list-like version comes up, I'm still not aware as to how some of the users are making it that way. Arrancar109 08:02, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Free Floating Forum & Projects
Firstly, I moved your template forum to the improvements section - you need to add "Improvements and Issues" or "Watercooler" to the forumheader template at the top to get it to appear in the correct forum (it should be added automatically, but sometimes it doesn't). Second, you asked if I had any projects that I want taken care of by the committee. I have some things that I would like to be done for the anime summary project. One is relatively easy, but tedious, and two is a bit more substantial but still relatively easy enough. Let me know what you think.


 * 1) Image categorizing — You may have noticed over the past few weeks that I've been adding the category "Title Screen" to the title screen images from each episode. All episodes up to 167 (last episode before the start of the Amagai arc) are done, but there are about 100 images left to do. I was thinking that it might be best to get several people to do the remainder, as, after having done 167 of them, I think it is rather tedious work. Simply go to add categories underneath the image, and type in "Title Screen", save it and you're done. Just beware that adding "Title Cover" will add it to the chapter cover images instead, so be careful of the prompt it gives when typing.
 * 2) Omake pages — There are several different omakes in the anime (Shinigami Cup, etc) and several of them have their own pages. They are fairly short and in my opinion not really deserving of their own individual pages. I was thinking of merging them into a single page called Anime Omake Segments (or something to that effect). I think it would be much better that way. The committee would be charged with finding all these pages, merging them into one, coming up with a format for the page, bringing it up to date, etc, and it can be updated as you go along with the summary project. How to go about this: copy/paste the contents of each of the individual pages onto one page and mark the others for deletion using the template. Redirects may also have to be changed. They show up in the maintenance reports on the "Special pages" page (it is in the sidebar - I cannot link to it), but may not show up straight away. I'll take care of fixing them if you are unsure about how to do so. The pages that I am aware of are: Arrancar Encyclopedia, Shinigami Illustrated Picture Book, Kon-sama's Ultimate Shinigami Illustrated Guide, Quincy Encyclopedia and Substitute Shinigami Work Diary.

I have other things in mind, but they are much bigger projects, so I'm leaving them for the future. They relate to the Bount & Zanpakuto arcs, so I think they are best done when you start the summarizing of those particular episodes, as they are closely linked. Anyway, let me know. -- Yyp  (Talk)  12:11, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * "Title screen" is the exact text used on all of them thus far. Response to the rest coming soon. -- Yyp  (Talk)  22:08, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * The other categories are added automatically when you add the fair use template, which probably should be added to them as well, yeah. You can just copy paste it from one of the others. As I said earlier, you don't have to do it all yourself. I'll keep doing them from the most recent episode going backwards. About the omakes, I didn't mean for the episode summaries (do as you see fit on those).


 * I just want the pages I linked (and any other anime omake pages I might have missed) combined into one page for now. Anything else comes after that - but only when you're ready. A basic layout with the names of each omake segment as headings and whatever is on the corresponding page added under the heading is good enough for now - no need to bring it completely bang up to date any time soon. The committee can decide what to do with the page at some point in the future. Basically, I really don't think there is enough information on most of those pages to justify them having their own individual pages, and it would be better to combine them in one central location, rather than tiny pages scattered around the place like they are now. By not enough info, I mean both what is already written on the pages as well as anything that could in theory be added (i.e. has aired in the anime, but has not yet been added to the wiki). If I'm not being clear enough or if you need any help with it, let me know. -- Yyp  (Talk)  23:20, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yep, that's fine. Sorry if you felt I was dropping too much on you there. -- Yyp  (Talk)  23:31, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that. I didn't expect you to do them all in one go like that. I was just doing them 10 or 20 at a time. Thanks. -- Yyp  (Talk)  12:52, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

RE:Template Discussion closed and Initiation
Yea thats fine just make sure you put in the result of the discussion. As with the initiation thanks for helping, we most definitely take your ideas into consideration as im certain we had none of our own at the moment. Salubri 22:44, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Kanji Needed
Sorry to contribute to cluttering up your Talk Page :) but I checked out and wrote my data on the "Jiroubou Ikkanzaka" article's "Zanpakutou" section.

Oh, and don't worry about "bugging" me for kanji etc. "all the time." It's my passion to work in language, and if I can help, I'm glad of it. It's just the amount of work and my varying amount of time to do it that sometimes wears me down. But once I have the time, or get some rest, you can't keep me away, really XD. So feel free to consult with me. I only hope time and circumstances permit me to help in a timely manner, and you don't think I'm just avoiding you. If I switch to a more miserly attitude about it later, I'll let you know XD.

Oh, and hey! One more thing, since the "Yamamoto" name thing is closed now, I found more evidence that supports our conclusion, by accident, while researching Jiroubou's stuff. In the raws, he uses his nickname and calls himself Kamaitachi Jiroubou --very similar to Genryuusai Shigekuni ! If Jiroubou had used his full name, might we have ended up with a Japanese form like Ikkanzaka Kamaitachi Jiroubou that perfectly parallels Japanese-order Yamamoto Genryuusai Shigekuni in the family name-title-personal name order? I think we might have! :) Adam Restling 06:23, December 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * You were right, I was just thrown, in my haste, by the big blue "Closed" boxes framing the items around it. I went ahead and put in my new data on the "Yamamoto" Talk Page. Adam Restling 07:10, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Terms
Actually you probably should have asked me rather then Yyp seeing as im the most familiar with the terms. What is your issue. Salubri 21:08, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Salubri is correct, he is far more familiar with that than I am. For the spiritual power, if an issue comes up, I go by what it says on the Reiryoku page. -- Yyp  (Talk)  21:13, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Yes the reiryoku pages explains the spiritual power issue. As far as the powers and abilities section before i got on the site it was largely nonexistent and no more then a simple paragraph. I made it what it currently is detailing their skills and powers. Having said that if they have been properly referenced then they are what they are as determined by the information presented. A list of referenced articles can be found on my page assuming i have gotten to them. Most people changing them are using fan interpretations and not really going on the information. Prime example i have listed the average spiritual level of a captain as great. immense if your dealing with ukitake, unohana or the captain-commander. immense if your a shinigami-hollow hybrid and vast if your ichigo or kenpachi cause they cant control theirs like say ukitake, shunsui and the captain-commander does even though kenpachi is adept at it unlike ichigo. Despite that all those classification is based on information. Tosen could technically be considered immense so that's changeable as he presents the same case as the vizard. As far as the swordsmanship issue its simple and you get a first hand look if people know what they're talking about. Prime example Yoruichi the one user made it master and i changed it back to expert, why? Simple she is only considered a expert cause she as a former captain and one anime scene shows her killing a huge hollow with it in sealed state (thats a big deal). On the other hand she has never been shown with one and doesn't use one even against opponents with a zanpakuto (thats right youve never seen her with one) she constantly uses hakudo. Now some stuff is quite easy there is no question that the top hakudo masters are yoruichi and soifon there is no question the top shunpo masters and Yoruichi, soifon and Byakuya. top kido masters are tessai and Hachi. Some stuff maybe harder to guage but i cant fathom why its a continued discussion when its simple. What information can be brought to the table to prove it wrong besides what someone feels they should have. Majority of the espada are hand-to-hand combatants with Ulquiorra and Nnoitra only showning and really mastery of swordsmanship. The point im making as the vast majority of articles have references for this purpose. It really can't be questioned seeing as you can go the manga page or anime episode and see for yourself. Salubri 21:30, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Orihime Inoue's Page
I don't know what you were trying to do, but you removed all the references from Inoue's page, as well as a couple of sentences that had tags in them. I'm putting it down to a freak glitch due to the comments tags disappearing as well. I've restored them. Any ideas what happened? -- Yyp  (Talk)  21:42, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid I have no idea either. I've hit back, copied something & hit forward and finished my edit like that without issue. Some of these glitches really make no sense. Don't worry about it. -- Yyp  (Talk)  22:07, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Just checked it and there were a couple, but not much. It's taken care of. Yyp  (Talk)  22:16, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

The only way of catching them is using the show changes option, but I don't know if that shows all of them, or if more can appear if you change the text after doing that. It's a pain, but the wikia staff are apparently working on. Whether a fix will ever come or not, I don't know, but I haven't seen any updates on that glitch in a long time now. -- Yyp  (Talk)  22:37, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

If you fixed three, but there was only one in the show changes diff, then the other two must have been created when you started editing. They weren't on the previous version of the page, so they won't show up in the diff. That's my guess anyway. Its a real pain, but there is little that can be done about it. -- Yyp  (Talk)  22:57, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

He made it up I think. I checked around before undoing it to make sure, and then when I hit save, you had already undone it. If it is out, I can't find it and the group that has released it earliest the past couple of weeks has a notice up saying that they will be late with it this week. -- Yyp  (Talk)  23:06, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Taken care of. I initially blocked him, then upon seeing further vandalism and his comments, I doubled his ban. -- Yyp  (Talk)  23:16, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Pic Size
All pictures added to articles are to be 190px, which means you have to add 190px to the code on the article in order to ensure that it's the correct size; otherwise, it goes to a default particular to that image, and that would create inconsistencies across and in articles. (While I'm at it, all profile pics are supposed to be 290px.) Twocents   (Talk)  01:01, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

All profile pictures are to be 290px and all other pictures are to be 190px (unless it's for use on your userpage, in which case, we don't really care). That means the image should be at least that wide when you upload it, or it will become distorted when it's stretched to 190px. Twocents  (Talk)  01:47, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Glad to be of use. Let me know if you need help (or just want attention :P) with anything else. Twocents  (Talk)  01:57, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

That sounds like a plan. Speaking of, I'm not really sure where we're at for the other committee members; I think Yyp and I are just waiting for input/responses from Salubri and Arrancar109. I know they're busy with their own projects, but I hope they'll have some time to look at it soon. Twocents  (Talk)  03:11, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

That's what I'd do. And I think I'm the only female admin. (Though I thought Yyp was a girl for the longest time. Oops.) Twocents   (Talk)  03:26, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

For a second, I thought you actually asked if he was male or female. xDD But I see that you didn't. The thought of you doing so amused me. Anyway, hopefully, it'll remind him to take a peek at the page again. I'm sure it's just slipped his mind. Twocents  (Talk)  04:07, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks dear! I just checked it out. So many cliffhangers this chapter. Twocents  (Talk)  02:46, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Loly
Sorry about that. I'm still learning the codes to edit pages properly. I think I found what I was doing wrong and got the picture in the way it should go.

Question
what do you think about this. The fight between hitsugaya and harribel, the one between Starrk and Ukitake/Shunsui, the fight between soifon and barragan. Now my issue is up until the vizard show up we see the fights but i cant really determine whether up until that point is it a draw, espada victory or shinigmai victory as far as the outcome. Salubri 05:12, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Not a spoiler!!
You said that I posted a spoiler on shinji's page and that I need to put the source. well here it is... and i'd appreciate that ypu'd remove the warning that you gave me

http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-398-page-7.html

--Cyberflame 19:20, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Committee
No problem! It's good to hear that I haven't been disqualified yet, but I'd understand if I didn't get the position. There are indeed other editors that have better credentials than I do. So, again, I would understand.

I keep up with Google Reader and an RSS Bookmark (they're quicker and more accessible than the Recent Edits page). However, it always seems that someone has already made the revision and has beaten me to it! Nevertheless, I won't ignore an error if I see one, or if I'm browsing, I'll improve something as well.

For the personal note, thanks! There are a lot of Wikis that are compiled, but not a lot of them are organized. So, it's seldom to find one that is compiled and organized! Even more, you're very welcome. -- Animeluvr 20:37, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, no problem! I'll be more than happy to improve on that for you. But, what is it that you'd exactly like me to edit?

I totally got the concept. Thanks for everything! -- Animeluvr 21:08, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Feat. Quote
No problem. I just looked at that and I agree with him that it was Tosen who asked Komamura, not the other way around. -- Yyp  (Talk)  22:28, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Character infobox
Simple enough. For the image name, you added "". With the infoboxes, you don't need the code, just the name of the file. So change "" to Bleach-Logo1.jpg and it should be fine. -- Yyp  (Talk)  23:03, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Looks good. -- Yyp  (Talk)  23:46, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Soifon
Please don't get into the habit of doing references that way that especially confusing against manga chapters and its not how we do them. There is nothing wrong with having alot of reference's not having references is the problem. Also you removed clears which the manuel of style says not to do. Salubri 01:22, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Your right what i meant to say is that the clears you put in wherent necessary either as they made weird large spaces where there weren't any before.Salubri 05:14, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

You said you were confused about Tousen's Resurrecion?
It turns out that Grillar is a Catalan word, part of a language mostly spoken in and around the Pyrenees Mountains.

grillar [greel-lyar’] verb neuter: 1. To chirp or squeak (grillo). (n) verb reflexive: 2. To shoot, to sprout.

any idea what the deal is about his resurreccion? i mean he's a soul reaper so he should only have a mask.Soul reaper magnum 02:30, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

At your request (and to supplement the good start Soul reaper magnum gave you above), I happened to, in my excitement over this chapter's events, have focused much attention on these questions. First off, you do seem indeed correct yourself, Minato, that "Suzumushi Hyakushiki" is just like saying "Suzumushi Tsuishiki" before unleashing his Bankai. Here's the breakdown:

清虫百式: 狂枷蟋蟀 (グリジャル・グリージョ)

Suzumushi Hyakushiki: Gurijaru Gurījo

"Suzumushi Hundred Style: Grillar Grillo"

Suzumushi (lit. "bell worm/bug") is Japanese for the insect native there which we call the "bell cricket." Grillar Grillo is Spanish for "chiming/chirping cricket," whereas its underlying kanji (as occur also with all Arrancar Zanpakutou) mean "crazed/mad shackle(s)/bond(s) cricket"; in fact, the "crazed/mad" kanji 狂 also occurs in Katen Kyou kotsu, and the "cricket" part, 蟋蟀, is koorogi, same as in Enma Koorogi.

Grillo is traced to Latin gryllus, from Greek grúllos, "a cricket, grasshopper"; grillar from Latin gryllāre, grillāre, "to (make the sound of a) cricket, chirp," a verb derived from this noun. The Royal Academy of Spanish even cites that grillar is sometimes used as a synonym for cantar, "to sing," as well as "to (produce) sound(s)" in general. It's also worth noting that whereas most times, Resurrección (帰刃 (レスレクシオン) Resurekushion) has the underlying kanji "return blade," when Tousen says "Resurrección" in this ch. 385, the underlying kanji are "sword release" (刀剣解放 (レスレクシオン))--exactly as they were in the underlying kanji of Ulquiorra's Resurrección (Segunda Etapa)!

As far as how Tousen can perform Resurrección, nothing concrete and canon is known for sure so far. But it has inspired me to wonder, and here's my theory (though this is all conjecture--and so can't be used in any actual article--I hope you like it):

A Plus > a Hollow by losing their hearts and being consumed by the dark side of their soul. Without a heart, they cannot manifest a Zanpakutou (a "sword of the heart/soul"), so they may only gain power by cannibalizing other Hollows--but they cannot regain the ability to get a true Zanpakutou. If the Hollow > an Arrancar, they regain some rationality, and they can seal their natural Hollow powers into a kind of "fake Zanpakutou" (i.e. without a soul like old man Zangetsu actually in it) when they don't want to use these powers. When they do want to use their true form and its powers, they perform Resurrección.

However, if a Plus > a Shinigami, they keep their heart and can manifest a Zanpakutou, then advance (if strong enough) from Shikai to Bankai.

The Visored are the second type, so they can keep their hearts--and so use Shikai and Bankai of a true Zanpakutou--as well as, thanks to being half-Hollowfied by Aizen's trickery, use a mask and some Hollow powers. However, as they told Ichigo, they can wield their Hollow powers without losing to their inner Hollows because they suppress their inner Hollows, "crushing them down into their souls." Thus, they may, as a result of the suppression, be using only the tip of the iceberg in terms of their Hollow potential.

Now we come to Tousen, apparently made a true/perfect hybrid by exposure to the Hougyoku. He could be called a "super-Visored." In him, we may be seeing what would happen if a Visored, instead of suppressing their inner Hollow and so limiting the amount of its power they can tap-- mastered/embraced their inner Hollow, and thus gained all of its potential power! And it seems that if a Visored does embrace their inner Hollow, the inner Hollow's Resurrección--or unleashing of its full, enhanced power--is absorbed into their true, Shinigami's Zanpakutou and almost becomes an alternate Bankai.

Developments with Ichigo are also highly suggestive. Didn't his inner Hollow claim "I am Zangetsu!" ? Didn't Ichigo transform into a new, berserk Hollow form with incredible power? It does seem that true hybrids--made with the Hougyoku or not--or those on the way to becoming true hybrids see their inner Hollow's maximum potential and its twin, their Zanpakutou's power, fuse together.

Here's a breakdown of my theory (in the below items, "~" means "analogous to/the equivalent of," but not "is exactly like/equal to"):

Shinigami's Asauchi (nameless Zanpakutou) = Hollow's Menos evolution(s) = Visored's forced Hollowfaction first step toward power, though still raw, not fully tapped, and uncontrollable

Shinigami's Zanpakutou manifestation/name-learning = Hollow's Arrancarifaction = Visored's learning to keep control achieving stability and the chance to access the power

Shinigami's Shikai = Arrancar's Resurrección = Visored's mask unsealing of power into its natural state so they may use it freely

Shinigami's Bankai = Arrancar's Resurrección Segunda Etapa = True Hybrid's Resurrección enhancing the natural state's power to new heights

Thus a true hybrid like Tousen now seems to be able, theoretically, to use a Shinigami's full arsenal--Shikai, Bankai, Shunpo, Kidou, etc.-- and a Hollow/Arrancar's full arsenal--Resurrección, Sonido, Cero, ultra-fast regeneration etc.--even without starting off as a Hollow first. The Visored probably could, too, if they dared to embrace or conquer their inner Hollows completely, instead of just suppressing them.

Hope this answers your questions/gives you food for thought, so let me know your thoughts. Sorry for the length, but this chapter has revved me up and fired my imagination! Hope to here from you soon. Thrilling stuff! :) Adam Restling 12:07, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

I think the point is being missed and getting alot of speculative when there is already information present.


 * Shinigmai - zanpakuto (shikai, bankai)


 * Hollow


 * Arrancar - zanpakuto (Resurrección)


 * Vizard - Zanpkauto (shikai, bankai) Hollowfication


 * Shinigami-Hybrid - zanpakuto (shikai, bankai) hollowfication, Resurrección

Whether the vizard are capable of it is a obvious, they are. We have seen it before Kensei and Mashiro weren't hollows 100 years ago that was a inner hollow controlled Resurrección similar to Ichigo during his fight with Ulquiorra. Whether they have attained control over it in the past 100 years is something we dont know, obviously ichigo hasn't. As well anyone can assume alot but the point being that Resurrección: Segunda Etapa was only seen once and only referred to one character. Despite the fact that it carries itself as a plot device, it was somewhat useless besides forcing ichigo into a more powerful form. Also All the Espada above Ulquiorra didn't possess one and they're all dead. So its quite clear what it was used for, at this point the use of it would be unnecessary to further the plot (as ichigo isn't strong enough not to use it every fight as he constantly uses bankai and hollowfication every fight). Also an espada's Resurrección is shown to be more then enough to take on most captains (in some cases even with bankai being used), furthering the point. The idea behind arrnacar is to attain access to shinigami like abilities (sonido, humanoid shape, pseudo zanpakuto) but thats where its stops apparently they are by in large still hollows and their release is enough to reflec that they dont need more levels. Even the shikai and bankai its more a way of separating captains from lower seats as the shingiami exist in a more formalized military, where the espada are only partially organized and tolerant of the organization seemingly created by aizen. They are noticeably antagonistic even to each other in or out of the ranking system.

Also the way this works is simple as determined by ichigo's advancement. In any shingiami there is their zanpakuto spirit in their inner world. It is the source of their power if your dealing with a vizard they have attained hollow powers and therefore they then have a inner hollow. Hollow ichigo once explained to ichigo while in the inner world, he is zangetsu. that he and Zangetsu were originally one being, as both are the source of Ichigo's power and Hollow Ichigo was part of Zangetsu. Although they both share one physical body, if the master and servant exchange roles, the form changes as well. As Hollow Ichigo's power grew control was transferred to him and Zangetsu became a part of him. Therefore the more Ichigo tries to draw out Zangetsu the easier it gets for Hollow Ichigo to take over Ichigo's soul. Ichigo realizing if Hollow Ichigo is defeated will put Zangetsu back into control. With that information we can note that to be the case with all vizards, hence to attain the position they release their zanpakuto like we have seen so many arrancar do. It is another release the difference is instead of bringing out the power of the zanpakuto spirit your bringing out the power of the inner hollow. From the information that would have it be more like this:


 * Shingimai - Zanpakuto (shikai, bankai)


 * Arrancar - Zanpakuto (Resurrección) Ulquiorra -Zanapkuto (Resurrección, Resurrección: Segunda Etapa)


 * Shinigami-Hollow Hybrid/Vizard - Zanpakuto (shikai, bankai, Resurrección) Hollowfication

Sorry for the long extension on the conversation. Salubri 19:50, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Minato for your thanks (?! Thanks overload! XD). Also, if you use say a browser like Firefox, open the " V iew" drop-down menu at the top of the browser window, and there should be a " Z oom" option to maybe allow you too see certain characters better. I know one of your earlier messages mentioned the difficulty your small screen gives you :).

@ Salubri - yeah, not much is known about these recent developments that counts as canon, that's why I was careful to preface most of my ideas with "this is all conjecture" or the like. All my theories and reasons behind this tenuous conjecture can be found in the data I posted above, as well as in related posts. We have no way of knowing, for example, if Segunda Etapa is the Hollow analogue of Bankai--which takes many years for most Shinigami to achieve--because all the Arrancar we know haven't had many years to live! XD Adam Restling 07:37, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Urimaki
Hey Minato just in case I'd like to apologise for posting that message on Urimaki's page even though you already dealt with it and the fact that it was directed at one of your candidates for the Policy standards committee if you had felt that I should not have intervened however chose to say nothing for whatever reason I apologise, I have the unfortunate tendency to sometimes apologise even when there isn't an indication to do, but like I said Just in case.. See Ya!-- SalmanH  (Talk)  07:36, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing Namikaze.-- SalmanH  (Talk)  18:56, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Oooh I gotcha --XxeroWolf 19:22, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah since Minato seems like one one of your favourite characters in Naruto I thought you'd find it interesting to be called by his last name, as for the signature since I'm only editing in this wiki and being an Admin/Bureaucrat in the Samurai Jack wiki I thought that I could find a way around it by typing in User talk instead of leaving it as Bleach:User Talk and assumed that it would link directly to the site I'm currently on similarly to the User:Name however that wasn't given a lot of thought, barely any in fact. Even though I could leave it as SalmanH I didn't like it that much without the talk link.-- SalmanH  (Talk)  19:40, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Response
Yea thats good also i have recently locked shinjis page until next week for the same thing. There was way to much traffic as well as edit wars and speculation. I dont know how many times i have to tell someone that nervous system is an incorrect translation and there is no point of putting up the info and its insinuated and as well as the description whether explained or shown will be given next chapter. Also the issue of the correct translation of his release command which everyone wants to change but not converse on the talk page as it is already taking place. Also be mindful of the resureccion page as people have taken liberties with that as well adding information already there and speculating. Salubri 20:32, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Translations
I've been here since december, and signed on only a handful of times. I don't come on this site often to look at info so did not know how to sign posts. I don't see why you're 'threatening' to delete my posts because of that though when all I'm doing is trying to post information, jeez. Come on, you know that's not right. Anyway I saw the 'sign post button thing'.

And hearing you have only one kanji expert is pretty weird. You can't be running to the same one person everytime. I know enough to be a kanji expert even, otherwise I wouldn't be posting. I'm always checking raw chapters to get 'accurate' translations since the translations on sites hardly ever seem accurate enough for me.

Also, copy/paste kanji to word or even just ZOOM IN the page to see the kanji clearer. Come on, 'screen too small'? Seriously? Tari101190 21:09, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Tosen
Yes thats fine. Salubri 00:28, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Category
Thanks for your help, dear! Twocents  (Talk)  00:32, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Re: WhiteStrike
He probably should. I don't know him all that well myself, so I'll ask Salubri what he thinks. Twocents  (Talk)  01:31, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Hisana
I added the and  templates to it, which does mark it for deletion until that information is added. And it doesn't matter if some other site uses the image. It's still copyrighted by Tite and whoever else (Viz, maybe? Like I said, I'm not sure where the image comes from), so it needs the rationale and license added to be legally within the U.S. guidelines of using copyrighted materials. Which is why I've been adding the rationale and license to images recently. Twocents  (Talk)  03:12, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't matter who adds the license and rationale, but typically, the user who uploaded them knows where they came from, so it's easier if they do it. Any user can add the, , , and  templates to an image, though, to get an admin's attention on them. Twocents  (Talk)  05:14, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Vizard is a race
Hello I'm Cococrash11 can you help me convince that in the Talk:Vizard or Talk:Kaname Tosen that Vizard is a race. --Cococrash11 07:49, December 12, 2009 (UTC)Coccorash11