Forum:Replacement captains............

Wouldn't it be a good idea if captain or lietenant class Rooyal guards took over the vacant spots left by Aizen and co, When the dust settles. Currently their are People to fill the some of the roles but there are reasons they can't. No bankai and even if they did they wouldn't want the position for whatever reason, someone want to die fighting under their captain and some wanting to surpass the current catain. If royal guard shinigami took over they we would see royal guard fighting levels which might make their subordinates come up a few levels and even inspire others from other squads. We would see royal guard shikai's not that they are different but they are different as in new unseen, new bankai's, we might get to know the reasons behind why royal guard shinigami are given the position to protect the king what makes them so special, new stories could be introduced involving their own personal conflicts, it might even bring in flash backs the past history of the Kings dimension and fill in the gaps shedding light on certain questions like ichigo's growth rate why is he developing so fast, and the different classes of bankai's speed, power, elemental, kido etc, were there any vizards b4 shinji and co i don't think it was just an idea someone came up with there has to be more to it like how myths and legends are based on truth maybe i'm reading to deeply into it. add ur thoughts Anakin69 08:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC) -->

You got the vizard, Ichigo, Urahara, Yoroichi, and Isshin as well. You have more candiates than you give credit for.Saimaroimaru 02:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Royal Guards would never step down. Who would take a promotion (one based on secrecy and more important then being Gotei 13). Even in the Gotei 13 members don't step down positions the whole point is to get promoted. We have to have a better reason then people wanting to see them. Im sure somewhere in the series they may have roles in an arc and you may not learn all the stuff you know about other captains but at least you'll get to see them. Besides we need to see more on the captain's we know already, too many haven't shown their skills, history or even their bankai. No there were no vizards before shinji and company. It was an idea that never came to pass, until urahara's time. It's speculative to say otherwise. Vizard aren't shinigami nor do they want anything to do with the shinigami or the Gotei 13 so they are out of the equation. Ichigo wouldn't meet the requirements nor does he follow orders or command others. Plus he is technically a vizard and human. No one is sure what isshin's history is as a shinigami he may not be eligible or even want to after all he has a family his daughters are human. As well he has to take no orders from anyone. Urahara and Yorucihi may not want to besides if they did it would have to be in their previous positions. Yoruichi is trained as a assaasin and her family is traditionally head of the secret mobile force (though not currently). Urahara is a scientist thus he would have to have the 12th division and the research and development department he created back. Last checked both positions are filled. So then were back to square one. with no one to take the positons, not counting new people put up for consideration like in the amagi arc.Salubri 03:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I think it's gonna stay as is. Like salubri said, many have bankai but 0% of them want the spot or would be consider for it in the first place. Vizards, Ichigo, Yoruichi, Urahara are out of the question. Renji is too young and Ikkaku doesn't want to. Even if the current 2nd seats reach bankai, they'll just be in Renji's position.. unless it's Kira and Hisagi and we suddently get a 20yrs junp into the future. Then we could expect the 2 to have received promotions to captains of their divisions. But I don't think we would ever see that, since the main character is a human and all... big jumps in time like that would pose no difference for a shinigami but for a human.. well, unless they'd be willing to make a Bleach Shippudden or something.. hehe Deimonos 11:35, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

The Gotei 13 pretty much follows the normal procedure for promotion as any military unit; generally one is either promoted within the unit or promoted to take a seat in another unit. E.G. Renji being 6th seat (11th) before becoming 6th's Lt., Aizen as the 5th's Lt. before becoming it's Capt., Gin being the 5th's Lt. before becoming the 3rd's Capt., Iba previously in the 11th before becoming the 9th's Lt., etc. Its unlikely to promote anyone who falls outside this organization: vizards are technically "criminals" and Urahara, Tessai, and Yoruichi are in exile. Ichigo is a human thereforeSpacedone 05:51, 18 July 2009 (UTC) unlikely to be made a captain, Renji still has to master his bankai, and Ikkaku wants to remain under Zaraki's command.

The only replacement I could see in the near future would be Hisagi taking over Squad Nine after achieving or demonstrating bankai. Since he hates his shikai so much, it could be that he has it and doesn't use it, or could be capable of achieving it but having not tried yet. At any rate, while Renji is young and has only been a lieutenant for two months when the series starts, Shuuhei was only a little younger than Byakuya and about Gin's age during the TBTP arc. He's got a better chance than anyone to take one of the replacement positions, even though it's just as likely that they'll all stay open for a while. QuoteRadar 22:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Good point. Well, Matsumoto is as old as Hisagi and Gin but since Haineko is as lazy as she is, I guess we won't be seing her achieving bankai anytime soon. Now about Hisagi, I agree, he's by far the closest one I could imagine replacing a captain but unless he likes do go old-school like Ikkaku and take a beating instead of using his bankai.. I think he still has a lot to improve til then.. Deimonos 17:49, 2 July 2009