Talk:Cero

Too Many Images
Considering this should be a base article of "Cero", we shouldn't have so many "Cero" pics on this page for the individual versions. Why not just keep it to one or two pics (like the generic Menos and Ulquiorra) and leave the rest for the specific variation to the individual character. -StrangerAtaru 16:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC) Dekoshu 17:30, 21 November 2008 (UTC) 6 is honestly not too many, and they do help.


 * I agree, just basic Cero and Gran Rey Cero pics are really needed. LapisScarab 21:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Dekoshu 21:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC) How about adding the other Cero images to the other articles instead of just removing them here?
 * For the most part that's already happened. I've seen them on the other articles so maybe just link them to the appropriate article from the header of each special Cero. -StrangerAtaru 23:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

How about getting a picture of each important arrancar ( including Espada ) using a cero?Shuhei Hisagi 00:37, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * That would mean there would be even more pictures. Unless you mean having a picture of the character using Cero on their own article, which might work. LapisScarab 23:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

New Cero
there has been a debate as to how Ulquiorra new Cero should be called. Some of the scanlations use the word Oscuras or Oscurus, this is because they are just translating the Kana as it sounds the correct translation should be Oscuro the Spanish word for Dark. When writing foreing words into Japanese Kana you write as it sounds an if trnslated into another language from that you may get a totally diferent word than what you started with. We can not assume that Kubo meant it to be Oscuras until he actually writes in roman characters "our way of writing" as we now this is what solved alot of the spalling isues we had with some of the Arrancar names. I will live it as Oscuro and will let everyone voice their oppinion in the forum so we may choose to use the one we feel is the correct one. WhiteStrike 19:25, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

2. It should absolutely be "Oscuras". Yes it's bad Spanish, but IT'S WHAT HE SAID. To correct the form is nothing short of altering canonical material.

Furthermore, Kubo has done this before and the name was left the way he put it. For example

Gémelos Sonído (Hemerosu Sonīdo) : should be Gemelo Sonido

Brazo Derecha de Gigante: should be Brazo Derecho de Gigante

Brazo Izquierda del Diablo: should be Brazo Izquierdo del Diablo

So, it's nothing new really. Leave it the way he says it. Daisekihan 03:49, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Gran Rey Cero
Just to make clear, I'm bored, blabla, won't speak much longer....

WHERE is it stated that gran rey is espada exclusive ? Saw it on some forums and tought they were right ? lol.

didn't Grimmjow say it was an Espada exclusive?--Kisukeiscool100396 21:05, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Chapter ?

i don't remember--Kisukeiscool100396 21:08, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Checked the anime(not manga, correct me if I'm wrong), and Grimmjow says "Only espada are allowed to use", excuse me, but there is a big change between "espada-only" and "espada allowed to use". That's like saying espada 4+ cannot release in las noches because they are not allowed to.

well i guess any Arrancar can use it but only Espada are allowed to--Kisukeiscool100396 21:15, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

WTF??
grimmjow isn't the only espada to use gran rey cero... ulquiorra used it, just after ichigo donned his hollow mask during their fight... --Ulquiorra Wannabe128 09:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

he's never used it once. maybe you are mistaking it for the Cero Oscuras Vinak963 17:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

If your talking about this Kiskukeiscool, that's just a big ass regular cero. MVPVasto 23:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Article Deletions
I know this has probably been brought up before, but are the articles Gran Rey Cero and Cero Oscuras really necessary? This page seems to have just as much info on either attack as their individual articles do. Gran Rey's gif is on this page, so it's not like there's any need to use the individual pages to prevent loading issues (like the Kidou page). In addition, either technique has only ever been used by one character, much like the case with the Getsuga Tensho article which got deleted, which had far more content (before we learned Isshin could use it). Any particular reason why we need them? Mohrpheus 16:53, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Thats simple we don't. I brought this same point up a while ago when they were first created and again like last month or so. They were allowed because the manual of style states a technique can have its own page if their are multiple users. The fallacy of this argument is that while they can have a page doesn't really mean that they should or need one. Your completely right they should be deleted and even if all the other espada where capable of them why would it be necessary for it to have its own page unless there was extensive information that would be a crowd to the page. Salubri (Talk)  17:00, July 16, 2010 (UTC)