Board Thread:Improvements and Issues/@comment-3578825-20160710040714/@comment-957629-20160710084057

I find that this thread started out as an attempt to emotionally blackmail us or manipulate us in changing something to a users liking an then degraded to insults when he didn't get his own way. Debate-mode engaged!! will also be closing this thread too as its unproductive but I will be giving a response first.

Kibaou wrote: I know we had this discussion and we are waiting for proof, but wait makes you that Kubo-sensei is going to reveal the truth of a fact- an observation. I find it entertaining that you acknowledge that this site works with PROOF of the many things we have information about here. But alas if you want references you are referring to an attack in Chapter 532 allow me to direct your attention to Chapter 405 when Isshin used an attack called Getsuga Tenshō. This attack is not a fire-type or fire-based attack. The attack he used in Chapter 532 might well be fire-based but in the end we know the Zanpakutō has non-fire-based abilities, something we have proof of from Chapter 405. So listing it as a Kidō-type that can used different energy-based techniques i as accurate as you are going to get without Kubo stating outright that its fire-type. But allow me to humor you anyway.

Kibaou wrote: You probably thinking "then I'll just change it.",but then you have to suffer the self-embarrassment that you let that miniscule discussion that was talked about by an minority of the bleach community, depsite that everyone else knows that engetsu is a fire type zanpakuto, If everyone knows then everyone can provide proof no? And please trying to manipulate us emotionally is quite funny. Luckily we aren't children that can be manipulated that way. Good try but no that won't work.

Is Isshin does use fire-based abilities in the future we still need to account for the non-fire based ability he's used in the past, evidence is cruel like that.

Kibaou wrote: Well well well, why isn't the king of logic whom said that engetsu isn't a fire type zanpakuto come to tell me what is logic. Wouldn't usually correct people as mistakes happen but considering what you wrote next I should let you know it should be "come to tell me what logic is", the way you wrote it doesn't make grammatical sense.

Kibaou wrote: Listen you, I trying to be nice by giving you the chance to think about it, but apparently you can't even do that. No, you were trying to emotionally manipulate us into agreeing with your point of view. When Xilinoc and Future did not conform to your manipulative attempts you started to throw insults.

Kibaou wrote: What on makes you think engetsu isn't a fire type. I will just leave this here. No flames coming from Isshin's blade there.

Kibaou wrote: And totally you missed the point of what wrote before; did you fail your english composition or had a bad teacher? Why is this guy a Moderate?

Ahem the line should be "did you fail your English composition or have a bad teacher?"

Also he's a Moderator not a Moderate although maybe he is a Moderate in terms of political leanings but I don't think that's what you meant when you tried to insult him there.

Kibaou wrote: I agree that commands can be misleading, but the fact that Isshin said that he'll barbecue the hollow, and there is no proof that was a mistranslation. Was Getsuga Tenshō a mis-translation then? You keep addressing the event you believe shows you fire and not what we have already seen from Isshin.

Kibaou wrote: And my observation argument should be helping, because if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, then it a.... If it looks like a Getsuga Tenshō, hits the opponent like a Getsuga Tenshō, destroys lots of things around the user like a Getsuga Tenshō, it must be......a fire-type Zanpakutō?? Hmm I disagree.

Kibaou wrote: What I said is not assumption, it's fact- that is literally whats going on. Facts have proof, can you provide some? No because its what you observed which is not always as it seems.

Kibaou wrote: You've completely ignore the clues that makes it a fire-type. And you have not yet once addressed the technique he used previously in Chapter 405.

Kibaou wrote: Have you too fail in english composition course, or have you yet to take it? Ahem: "Have you, too, FAILED in an English composition course..." Will you stop insulting their ability with English with sentences that don't make grammatical sense?

Kibaou wrote: This wiki just became unreliable to story facts. Yes we are so unreliable that we take into consideration Chapter 405 along with Chapter 532 before coming to our conclusions. Nice attempt to brow beat us again. This attempt failed too.

Kibaou wrote: Have you not notice that Isshin only used Getsuga Tengsho in the seal form Engetsu Given that the appearance of Isshin's Zanpakutō doesn't change from sealed state to Shikai, we would require proof here. But you are not going to prove it, you just use assumptions.

Kibaou wrote: Lay off. I was in fits of rage. This is no excuse, one more insult after I close this thread and I will be requesting a block.

Kibaou wrote: You guys live in your own world with its own logic. As opposed to the logic where we only go by the opinions of observations from a black and white page. Let's ignore Isshin's previous abilities.

Nope that doesn't work we go by referenced facts not assumptions. As its listed now its as accurate as its going to get until we get more information.

Discussion was not more than insults so I am closing with my abilities as a Moderate.