Talk:Aaroniero Arruruerie

Category ?
I think that we can consider him, as both Privaron Espada and Espada, right ? Mili-Cien
 * I don't think so. He was never (as far as we know) removed from the current Espada, so he never became a Privaron Espada. LapisScarab 21:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't recall seeing the unreleased Glotoneria as looking like the unreleased Nejibana. Can the author of this give a page reference? Daisekihan 15:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Resolved

Akira Reference?
Is it worth noting that his Ressuracion appears to be reference to the manga/anime movie Akira? His Zanpakuto in its unreleased state is a tentacle-like arm and he turns into a big fleshy blob upon releasing it. A tentacle arm and a blob-like form also appear in famous scenes from Akira. Greybob 20:36, 5 May 2009

I dont think so, it could just as easily resemble anything from other material. Bleach is original its easy to find similarities in other stuff you like if you look for them. It really has no bases. Salubri 02:45, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok i basically cleared the page because this became a unnecessary argument involving to many people on a talk page mostly upset at disparaging words made about the series and its creator and it has nothing to do with your reference. In light of that the references made are supposed to do with something tangible and linked to the character. Such as a real life person whose name the characters name is based on or some fact in the series. While a tentacled blob can be found throughout Anime its not necessarily a reference to anything and unless otherwise stated in conformation, its just a coincidence and should not be stated as if it were a fact, which is all that should appear on a profile. Salubri 20:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Salubri. I'm glad I'm not the only one who agrees with the obvious answer. ^.^ - HuecoMuffin 18:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Resolved

New Picture
Should a picture of the true form of Aaroniero's sealed zanpakutou be included in the article? Every other Espada article has one, and the unique nature of his zanpakutou would make it a significant addition. In addition, some people still seem to have the impression Nejibana's sealed form is also that of Glotoneria (hence why I changed the description to its current state a while back). Unfortunately, I do not know how to do this myself - I suggest that somebody does this. Mohrpheus 19:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Weakness?
In the trivia, it talks about his glass chamber being a specific weakness.

Aaroniero got stabbed in the face with a shikai. Isn't that a weakness of all Arrancar and, heck, pretty much anything else? I'm not sure if the broken glass would be more than a temporary inconvenience without the face stabbing. ZeroSD 05:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

It's the fact that the two heads are suspended in the liquid within the glass, breaking it is like decapitation. Ancient Chaos 05:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Possibly, but possibly someone could just pick them up and save him were it not for the stabbing. Decapitation works against others anyway, so it's not a particularly unique weakness. ZeroSD 06:12, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Picking them up won't really do anything when there is no body or fluid container left (when the glass breaks his released body essentially explodes). presumably the glass could be broken by any normal glass breaking method, resulting in death even if he were to hypothetically walk through a doorway that's slightly too small or tripping and falling on a rock. It's the extreme fragility of the material that makes it such a weakness. (I really hope that isn't as repetitive as it sounded in my mind) Ancient Chaos 06:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I lean toward agreeing with ZeroSD. If Wonderweiss being nude after being released by the hogyoku is anything to go by, then someone would have had to make the glass chamber and put the heads in there in the first place anyway. Plus, there's no indication that he would have died if his heads were simply out of the glass chamber, unless you can point to a specific chapter and/or episode where it is explicitly stated that any time apart from the chamber would result in his immediate death. Furthermore, being killed by being struck in the head is a "weakness" shared by both Shinigami and Espade. For example, Nnoitra comments that while being stabbed through the head by Kenpachi should have killed him, he only survived because he was stabbed through the hollow hole. Another example would be when Nemu thanked Uryu for sparing her father because he shot him in the chest, which he survived, rather than at the head, which would have killed him. This is not a weakness that is unique to Aaroniero. Twocents 06:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

" It's the extreme fragility of the material that makes it such a weakness. (I really hope that isn't as repetitive as it sounded in my mind)" Is it even that fragile/made of normal glass? It got hit by Rukia's best move point-blank. Both the fragility and that he'd die if it broke are speculation, which shouldn't be in the article. ZeroSD 16:17, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

The head thing is a pretty good point. I mean, all it was was a container, it wasn't his actual head. Plus, the only reason both died because one got stabbed and becuase both were connected. Breaking the container wouldn't have killed him, because it really wasn't part of the body.--Moe1216 15:09, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Dub voice(s)
Hasen't anyone figured out who voices him in the dub of 145 yet? Orochidayu 14:44, September 1, 2009 (UTC)