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Grimmjow's Status
Unlike the others, Grimmjow was shown to be alive after the last attack he suffered. He was alive, breathing and talking. Therefore, he is alive until proven otherwise. -- Yyp (Talk) 12:10, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Then why not change Ukitake to that deceased as well? He was impaled by Wonderweiss and at the new chapter, he didn't appear in the group defending Ichigo.Annaatar 12:11, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * You raise a good point. Starrk's body was beginning to disintegrate as be fell (mask fragments breaking and clothes tearing at points away from where he was injured), Harribel was declared dead by Mashiro, Tosen's body exploded (you don't get much more dead than that). But none of these applied to Ukitake. Incapacitated, yes, but he was not implied to be dead like the others where. Plus, we know from Turn Back the Pendulum (and from Kaien's death) that a Shinigami's body turns into spirit particles when they die. We have seen Ukitake since he hit the ground (briefly, when Aizen got out of the fire prison), and he was unconscious (at best), but his body was still there, which goes against him being dead. -- Yyp (Talk) 12:22, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Just adding to what Yyp said, Ukitake was surrounded by people who would succumb to grief or in the very least anger should he die. Such as Kyoraku and Yamamoto. But none of these people have betrayed the smallest amount of grief. Kyoraku was actually joking and playing around with Lisa shortly after Ukitake was stabbed through the chest and did not seem all that different from his usual self (save a bit more serious) when he fought Starrk. You can't seriously believe that Ukitake is anything but alive when his best friends and his sensai, who considers him something like a son, have not a said a word about his status. Trust me when I say, if Ukitake dies, we'll know and we'll know immediately. Tinni  (Talk)  12:39, January 19, 2010 (UTC)