Forum:Gigai

This Forum is for discussing Gigai and anything related to Gigai. Any posts about Gigai outside of this Forum will be moved here. --Yyp 23:22, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Do Gigai's grow
So i kno they are a form of respite for soul reapers to regenerate their powers, but what happens if they need to stay in it for years? Does the gigai grow and age?
 * The main use for gigai is to recover spiritual power. Yet it also functions as a means for interaction with humans on some level if it mission requires it, but this time span only seems to be a couple of months not years. Still, this doesn't mean the interaction will go well since the Soul Society is essentially feudal era Japan meaning most of the shinigami probably won't know how to use modern devices such as cars, microwaves, etc. though oddly enough their detectors look like cell phones. This is probably meant for some comic relief.Spacedone 07:56, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

[obviously if their power was that low they would get pulled back to the spirit world] but what would happen if nobody knew they were there in a gigai? Like could somoeone who is unknown get a gigai and live in it and build up their powers? --G3N3T1C 12:35, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't think they'd age- the shinigami don't really age much either, so it'd be inconvenient if they changed while you didn't and they ceased matching. Normally at least, Rukia's was supposed to turn her into a human, so it would. Probably Nemu too (at least at Soul Reaper aging rate). So maybe they do... of course, you'd almost never use them for years on a stretch anyway, a few months was unusual.

I doubt a non-powered person being in a gigai would give them power. It's an item to rest and recover, but it doesn't increase battle power or pull spirit energy towards you or anything. I think it's basically like giving your spirit 'muscles' a break.ZeroSD 12:51, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Vizard Gigai Usage
Kind of stating the obvious here, but the vizards are all using shinigami powers while remaining in their gigais. so does Urahara. So, it this is possible, why doesnt ichigo use one. it would be a lot more practical, except he'd always have to wear black so the coat he gets in bankai wouldnt look stupid...

Im not sure how serious a question or statement this is but, this is simple. 1.) The Vizard obviously still have usage of the reiatsu blocking Gigai they were made, by Urahara back 100 years ago otherwise the people at ichigo's school wouldnt be able to see Shinji 2.) We have no knowledge of how frequent they use them but they more then likely don't use them during battle as they would be damaged and they can't fully access their spiritual powers when the physical form that a gigai creates is suppressing their true form. Making it speculation to assume that they are in them when they use their abilities. 3.) We also do not know how frequently Urahara uses his gigai, so we cant know for sure when he wears it more then likely he doesn't in private. 4.) As from what we are seen a shingiami is all but useless in a gigai Rukia is only able to use Kido in a gigai and from what has been shown they are not practical to wear in combat hence the reason when battle starts they leave them behind, hence the point of soul candy. 5.) Why would Ichigo use a gigai when he has an actual body which he already uses similarly? Besides that he is in bankai alot but not every single moment.Salubri 18:35, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you... Somebody else noticed(Not so crazy now). I've wondered that since the first arc, (follow the manga) but I recall Urahara being visible to people at Don Kannoji's preformance when he hauled Ichigo's body off, and then used a memory rewriter on someone who tried to stop him. Urahara always seems to be in the same outfit, yet his Zanpakuto is with him. Same with the Vizard, they keep their swords despite being in gigai. Why haven't other shinigami figured this out? A zanpakuto wouldn't appear as anything to a normal human, they wouldn't have to go around ditching their gigai, oy.. Excusing a quick switch or a skip on Kubo's behalf, Zanpakuto can be used outside gigai.


 * is also pressumsious to assume that they are not fighting in their Gigai and that Urahara or the Vizaed are outside theirs. The thing about Rukia's original Gigai is that it was meant to work against her so it become her body. Every Shinigami that we seen leaving a Gigai is always wearing Shinigami clothes, there shouldn't be a reason why the Vizard and Urahara himself would not be in Shinigami outfit after leaving his Gigai, heck even Ishin was in a Shinigami outfit and is more than a sure bet that he uses a Gigai as part of his daily life. The Gigai's that Urahara, Tessai and the Vizard wear are specially made for them so it wouldn't be a surprise if those Gigai's were made so it could allow them to utilize their power. In short until we see them leave their Gigai, one of them states that they are NOT in their Gigai or something that proves that they are not using when they fight, the only thing that we can conclude is that they are in them 24/7. WhiteStrike 03:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok so this is pretty far off what the original premise was for the original post, but would it be safe to assume that the gigais Urahara created don't age? I mean the vizards, Urahara and the rest of the people who seem to be using them don't look much older (if at all) than when we saw them in the Turn Back the Pendulum ark. Just a thought.--Ihaveaname 17:16, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Anyone else confused as to whether Urahara and the other Vizards are actually spirits trapped in Gigai's or not? My understanding since the Pendulum Arc was that Urahara told Yourichi that he was going to make Gigai's for "All of them" to "Contain" their Spirit powers. That being said then shouldn't Urahara and the other Vizards have to release their souls in order to unleash their full powers in a fight like Rukia and Ichigo do?Hollowmajinbuu1 17:18, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

I thinks it's implied that they do, but for convenience and time saving, it's never shown. I just assume there gigai wears the same clothes as their soul.Superchunky from Denver 22:06, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

i thought they had gigais that allowed them to use there powers, but did not let them leave there body, which is why Kisuke wasn't able to go to the ss in the ss arc.Icedeath 01:30, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

All i remember is that their gigai's hid their spiritual pressure. That would probably interfere with using their powers. Honestly i think Tite just forgot about that whole inconvenient gigai thing and only uses it where it has already been established. Superchunky from Denver 02:07, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

I have a little to add to this, too. Did Ichigo's dad conceive his three kids with a gigai? We know he has one because he can physically be seen, and he is shown as a Shinigami (though he can be human in the first place, like Ichigo, and just seperating his soul from his actual human body). Also, does Urahara, Tessai, and Yoruichi have gigai as well? However, I think that there could be a mechanism/device that merges with the soul to create a constant body (like a human) that can be seperated. Have there ever been a time when someone used their powers while still in their gigai? I think that they just seperate from them to make them more versatile or gigai prevent them from using their (the user's) full potential. Animeluvr92 02:42, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, you're right. Rukia used kido while in a gigai during the "Agent of Shinigami Arc" So they must be able to. Superchunky from Denver 02:49, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

After reading these posts I wonder; when Yoruichi fought; was she in her true form (in Karakura town vs Yammy); I would think so. I also think that Yoruichi uses a gigai for her feline form and another gigai for her human form, unless the gigai can transform with her.--Captain Brooks 21:24, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering does Ichigo use a gigai or his body, because he techincally "died" to regain his spiritual powers, and in the first movie Rukia said that he shouldn't leave his gigai lying around but he screamed "Hey, that's my body!" , so can anyone help me with this? Bleach Babe (talk) 03:56, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Firstly sign your post. Secondly commonly within the series no Ichigo does not possess a gigai. This is because Ichigo is unique in the regard that he is not technically deceased and therefore uses his own body like a shinigami or visored would use a gigai. In the expierence you are talking about Ichigo didnt die he was removed from his body which never ceased functioning (it was never injured or otherwise damaged. He was already spiritually released from his body. Movies by nature are usually not canon they tend to be in a time period outside the manga timeline like most anime-only arcs and feature content that is contrary to established information for the storyline in general.--Salubri (Talk)  00:00, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

sorry 'bout that. I wasn't paying attention. Oh and I was just wondering because Urahara had cut his soul chain which removed the link between his soul and his body and he went the process of hollofication which is the complete eradication of the soul chain so I thought that meant he died, and the movie had only succeeded in leaving me more confused. But thank you for the information, anyway. Bleach Babe (talk) 04:02, August 1, 2011 (UTC)