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Kensei Muguruma
I keep trying to change Kensei's hakuda level to master but someone keeps putting it back to expert If you compare him to anyone else who is a master hes more than worthy. Theres no visible proof soi fon's a master and komamura's just strong, It's pissing me off!!!Zach666 09:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Inserting images
Can you please help me with something, I want to insert images off the net for example urahara _ kisuke.jpg but whenever I do something like that it only comes up as a red link and the other way was when i simply put in the web address but it would just make a link to the web page.--SalmanH 19:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey
I already talked to Mili-Cien who referred me to you an Whitestrike about it. But i was asking with all the influx of new people, page vandalism, gross speculation on pages, spoilers on profile pages and whatnot. whether you 2 needed more help administering. Considering Ultimate is never on and Mili-Cien is barely ever on. Its really just you 2, i figure im on as much if not more so and theres gotta be almost more then 40 people or more on at any given time. I guess its just a suggestion, cause i have been on here so long and its like maybe i should take a more active role.Salubri 23:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your support as well ill hit up Mili-Cien then and let the it been know you both are in agreement. Once again thanks for the opportunity.Salubri 04:11, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

German Voice actors
I intend to add the german voice actors for the Bleach characters, but unfortunately i saw, that there are only templates for the japanese, englisch, spanish and french ones. So i would to ask you if you can create them, so that i cann add the german voice actors. Gargamel711 02:42, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Yammy, the 0 Espada?!
IT'S OVER 9000!!!!! How is he the 0 Espada?! It's madness! Does that mean the Shinigami should be afraid of him now without overconfidence helping them? Dekoshu talk contrib 17:55, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, when there will be a shinigami captain who will actually lose to one of the Espada?! I mean come on! Is Tite Kubo is trying to make the Epsada look weak on PURPOSE? In other anime outside of Bleach, one of the most powerful beings that ever lay foot on the universe ACTUALLY defeated a powerful opponent that won most of the time. Is the manga is going to really show at least one Captain to lose? It's fair that way. I doubt later, one of those captains will actually die or lose to Aizen or the remaining Espada. Captain Hitsuguya should lose to Halibel's released form. Dekoshu talk contrib 18:21, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I hope the captains don't win all the time. Is Tite Kubo want people to stop reading the manga or something? I hope the Espada aren't powerful for nothing. This is the most racist stereotype I have ever seen. Dekoshu talk contrib 18:35, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Bleach Captains
I really hope one of the Espada win this time in the next chapters of the Bleach manga. Somebody should really have a word with Tite Kubo. Dekoshu talk contrib 18:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm fed of seeing shinigami win all the time against the Espada and the rest of the Hollows. At least some shinigami below Captain actually did lose and die against the Hollows. Dekoshu talk contrib 19:01, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

You have your own viewpoints, and I need your help with this, please. Don't you get tired of seeing Captains win ALL the time against the Hollows and Espada? I honestly want to see one losing. It's not fair. Tite Kubo should be fair and have at least one of the Captains lose in the final battle as a cost for their victory or something. Thoughts? Dekoshu talk contrib 19:06, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

WILL YOU BAN TOSHIRO123 ALREADY
i'd do it but i'm not a god damn admin!!!--Kisukeiscool100396 19:22, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Yammy Rialgo is correct
Hi, the raw that was provided for as "proof" of his name being Riyalgo was incorrect proof. Ive been taking Japanese Language classes for 2 years and from what I have learned is when you translate from English to Japanese you romanize it. I'll use Halibel for example, when you translate the kanji you get Hariberu, but is that her correct name? No it isn't you then translate it into proper English and its Halibel. If anything the person who has provided proof needs to actually know japanese to prove his point. And even if he did, all the raw has proven is that his last name is "Riyarugo" which is the romanized version of his name. And what actually proves my point is, that. He doesn't know a lick of Japanese. Why is it that you use the "Riya" in his romanized name, and then you toss a side the "rugo" and add lgo? That makes zero sense. OneManga had the correct translation and I believe we should leave it as Rialgo until Kubo shows otherwise. Thanks for your time.Thunderwitch 18:54, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Eikichirō Saidō
Hello, I would like to discuss the aforementioned edit on the section of powers and abilities for the Eikichirō Saidō page, now I realize that we're not entirely sure if he is part of the special forces but it's not like we're going to see much more of him to really find out it's been about 200 episodes since we last saw him and it's unlikely that we might see him again soon but something like this comes from common sense and assumptions even though I know that you don't like assumptions but any way if the special forces assign him to important missions then it is quite possible if he is proficient in flash steps. --SalmanH 14:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Understood.
I didn't know you could upload new images. I didn't see that option.Thunderwitch 06:06, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

No problem
Okay, thanks for the advice and see ya.

Problem Reports
Some of the problem reports are annoying. I mean they seem like stuff that can easily be fixed by letting the person know in a talk page. Salubri 15:48, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

you better act fast
there is a lillte troll around here who put spam on eveyone's profile. you better block or banned Sailormoon21‎. <-thats the lille troll right there 109. samaEliskuya2 19:18, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Featured Article
yeah! please add anyone who yo think should be there but i forgot to add. WhiteStrike 14:54, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

New Manga
I know the Halibel situation is well in hand but just to let you know something you already surmised but keep an eye on Toshiro's profile, people are getting overzealous in the speculation department and its just building i had someone earlier editing the espada section to reflect as much, which i had to undo and then explain to them why not to. This is getting way to crazy every time a manga comes out everyone is always going farther then what is presented. If its not the halibel vs toshiro thing its the yammy thing and before that the hollow ichigo and ulquiorra situation. Salubri 22:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Aizen Page...
OKay well in the Aizen page i had replaced one of the images. I replaced the manga version of the picture to the Anime version. What was the problem?

Pics
I dont know what your take is on this but these profiles cant support all these pics, its starting to get out of hand. Salubri 06:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Whats going on this week. This crazyness happens every manga chapter release as if it was enough to deal with, but this stuff happening this week is crazy what is wrong with people. If not crazy speculation or otherwise on the main pages its on talk and forum pages. Speaking of which theres a section under hitsuguya's talk page i believe its title is "a upset in fandom" thread or something along those lines, well anyway its got nothing to do with the page its just personal opinions, but im not entirely sure how to move it outta talk and into forum, it might be easier if u did. Salubri 17:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Trivia
Hey I just noticed there might be need to clean up the trivia sections in the pages, as some of them are becoming filled with speculative opinions rather then actual trivia facts. Salubri 00:05, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Hitsuguya
Yea i completely understand where your coming from this is really getting outta hand. Ive already explained that even if that is what happened the official stand until it is confirmed is he critically or severely wounded. Saying cut in half is just as bad as saying dead, cause thats what theyre implying, thats why i locked the page. Also as they are manga readers alot of people seem to forget that the picture can just as easily change from this chapter to the next, they really need to start showing some restraint. Salubri 00:56, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok so in light of Golden Week what did you wanna do about these pages in reference to when the next chapter will possibly come out, if that changes the schedule of its release. I already extended Hitsuguya's page until that its released. Salubri 22:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Thats fine I was just concerned about Halibel and the Arrancar Arc pages as they are the most likely to get changed, while Halibel's hasnt been for a while. I see you already had to deal with the arrancar arc thing. But i guess we'll just have to see. Salubri 23:10, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay?
Thats not my image, that's the image drawn by Tite Kubo, I only pointed out the truth. Don't worry Salubri edited the article and it explains exactly what happened. And I edited the Halibel article using the same exact wording.Thunderwitch 01:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay
Well, whatever lol. The red marker is just highlighting the obvious. Im surprised you didn't see his belt, captain, haori, and ice claw talon. BTW, no chapter next week, its golden week. You might as well add splitting him in two sense that makes sense as well.Thunderwitch 01:45, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Redirecting
I'm not sure what the code is for "redirecting". can you please tell me or at least point me to the right help page? thanks. IchigoKitty 02:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Arrancar Abilities
I wanted to get your take on this. Does it make since to have abilities listed on the arrancar pages that they may have or should it just be abilities the individual arrancar or espada has been shown to actually use. The more i look it i get confused. I looked at starks page it says bala and cero yet he has yet to use either. Now why its implied that he as an arrancar can use it, that not really the issue, im more concerned with the having it listed when he has not used it at all. Also it states under cero he has gran rey cero and possibly cero oscuras, while thats not the issue he hasnt used gran rey cero at all so why is it even listed and we dont even have a possible likelihood that anyone but Ulquiorra can use the cero oscuras so whys that listed. Anyhow just tell me what u think should be done with that cause i dont wanna take it off if the argument i made doesnt make any sense. Salubri 23:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Clean Up
Ive been looking at some of the espada pages, you think its time to do some update on them. Im not sure it makes sense to have their pages state information in the present tense if theyre dead also some of the information givin especially on ulquiorra's page doesnt fully recognize what his capabilities are like saying its not know yet and the like not only makes it seem as though he were alive but that he hasnt shown his capability though as we all know from the fight he went to the next level and back. So just some thoughts wanted your feed back on it. Salubri 16:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Well yea i wanna clean up the abilities section if anything cause its like if theyre pretty much dead it seems kinda unnecessary leaving it open. We should just put down what we know they did and what they are capable of and leave it at that. Its at the point we are never gonna know if they could have done more definitively. Like Kaien Shiba he is dead and we state that much regardless of it being before the series but his abilities are pretty much straight forward what he could do and was left at that. So basically im thinking we should indicate somewhere maybe the top of the profile they are dead and gone outright and just listing what we know of their abilities in the ability section without the speculation or leaving it open to new information we will probably never have. But its just my thoughts so what do you think. Salubri 17:25, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Locking
As you first locked Barragan, I ask it to you there, should we, as soon as the first spoilers come to us, lock the page to "Registered Users" ? Since, as soon as they come out, the page is usually spammed with those Spoilers... :/
 * The semi-lock protects it from new users/users without contributions on the wiki, but the others can still edit it :)

Block
Yea im sorry about that but i had to block him i couldnt take that any more he was warned about the more then once on two separate days already. Salubri 22:26, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

You saw that right, what he did he made a new account to do the exact same thing, how obvious is that. Salubri 22:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Patrol
Seems that votes are clear : Almost 40 votes for "Enable it", None for "Don't", and one for "I don't care", so it seems pretty clear that I'm gonna request for it to be enabled, but here is a question : Should we make it sysop-only or allow the users to flag as patrolled ? I personally prefer to allow the user since, anyway, if a sysop is online, he'll just block the spammer and that would almost nullify the system's usefulness if we allow it only for sysops :/

You edited my page?
what did you edit i didn't notice anything--Kisukeiscool100396 20:16, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

never mind i saw what he did thank you for getting rid of the stuff he put on my page--Kisukeiscool100396 20:18, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

he put the pic in my pictures i've uploaded section probably because he wanted me to get in troble for it because i got rid of spoilers he or she put on the Resurrección page--Kisukeiscool100396 20:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Why was my trivia submission removed?
I'm new to bleach wiki so I'm still trying to learn everything. My trivia submission on Isshin Kurosaki was removed. Could you tell me why? Ztr9 02:54, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Ulquiorra
Ok i wasn't gonna say anything but its gettin out of hand there is like a constant issue with who is the voice actor of Ulquiorra i personally dont care who it is but apparently there are so many changes that no one else seems to know either. I mean can someone confirm for certain who it is so this can like stop cause its like ridiculous. It also not just his but a couple of profiles. Salubri 18:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Determination
Let me ask you cause im uncertain here. On Ichigo, Renji and now Halibel's profile they are listed to have determination under the powers and abilities section. Now i really dont think determination is a power, its a personality trait sure enough but anyone can have determination thats not an actual power or ability so the why is it in that section. Im thinking it should be placed in the personality section as thats where it most makes sense. Just some thoughts whats your take. Salubri 20:37, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, Arrancar109, if you were wondering who put "determination" under Halibel's Powers & Abilities section, I would be responsible. In Hailbel's discussion page, I mentioned that although it really isn't a power, it made her more willing to fight. However, I perfectly understand if it will be removed and put under her personality. Malzzel 9:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Nnoitra Jiruga Release
I just wanted to know why you undid the information detailing what occurs during Nnoitra's release Blackstar1 22:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * There are 2 reasons

I will, however, point out that the oversized crescent thing should be pointed out, but it's probably better shown in the Trivia section: not sure about the manga, but in the Anime, it appears only as a shadow within the dust Nnoitra kicked up, and in Versus Crusade, an actual gold/yellow crescent itself arises before fading away when Nniotra releases his zanpakuto. Not sure if it's a sort of light or something else produced by his release though. Arrancar109 17:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 1. The dust shown during his release happens a the desert, and deserts generate a lot of dust. It, in no way, comes from Nnoitra himself.
 * 2. ALL Arrancar's spirit energy (reiatsu) raises when they're releasing. It's pretty much half of the reason for releasing their zanpakuto (the other half being they gain their former Hollow powers).


 * 1. I agree on the dust part and that it was because of the desert but the amount of dust kicked up was abnormal as it was instead produced from Nnoitra as he released a large amount of reiatsu from the centre of his zanpakuto, resulting in enough force to produce the effect of shrouding the area in the surrounding sand. Episode 210 and Chapter 309 clearly demonstrates this.
 * 2. Episode 210 also shows Nnoitra building up spiritual energy well before the actual release occurs (displayed by a yellow aura), to which Orihime actually comments upon its build up. I was noting this not the gain that occurs as an after effect of release or during but instead the build up.
 * However, if anything should be kept within that section it is the oversized crescent, it occurs in all examples of his release. For the anime it is viewed in episode 210 and in the manga chapter 309 page 9. I to am not sure what actually produces it but it is observed as a shadow in both instances. Blackstar1 17:35, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

A user is at it in the Cero article
He said that it wasn't confirmed yet and keeps putting the "Cero Double" text. Dekoshu talk contrib 06:03, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Estigma
i think that Estigmas are the special facial markings seen on most arrancar, if not all including the hollows. i think when Nnoitora described Nel's markings, that was it. not just Nel's though. I'd like to start an article about it but fear that it would just be deleted. what do you think?--Hollow ichigo 16:07, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi.
Thanks for the welcome.AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield 18:03, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Why was my trivia submission removed again?
yes it happened again. I edited Gin Ichimaru trivia section. I put down that Gin opened his eyes in a cut scene in Bleach: Dark Souls. And my submission was removed. Why it is a fact. please tell me why.

Kensei Muguruma
I keep trying to change Kensei's hakuda level to master but someone keeps putting it back to expert If you compare him to anyone else who is a master hes more than worthy. Theres no visible proof soi fon's a master and komamura's just strong, It's pissing me off!!!

Navigation box
Hi, i was told to ask you how to make navigation boxes like the ones at the bottom of some of the character profiles

Acurate translations
Hi, i think we should do something with this, because since the "Apache and the others" case it became rather urgent. If you're not familiar the problem read this http://bleachasylum.com/showthread.php?t=3758 In my opinion whe sould dismiss Sleepy Fans/Binktopia because their translation is clumsy and ureliable. Ok, they are the fastest scanning group, but that's all. Their translation could be used ONLY before chapter releases from M7 or Ju-Ni. Personally, I prefer M7 (and I presume other users too as I see them adding pictures from M7 version) over Ju-Ni, but I try to compare both versions. Of course there are some Ju-Ni fans as well. I suggest we should do a poll about which translation should be used in the articles and which should be avoided. Nekosama 08:50, 18 May 2009 (GMT)

Gifs
I found some vid clips for the zanpakutos. in the consideration that pics dont do alot of them justice as a good amounts abilities arent fully shown as they are moving effects. I may have been overzealous a bit, but you determine whats necessary from the vids and the abilities they should represent. Salubri 17:34, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't find it such a bad idea, but still. The quality is low and it makes the sites difficult to view for people like me who do not posses a super computer. Also not all the gifts seems improving. In my opinion such gifts should only be used for techniques. --Gojita 17:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)Gojita

cool cool. Im not sure if you went through all of the ones i put up to see if they showing what was necessary. Check on Yoruichi's shunko and Urahara's. Urahara's show his zanpakuto's transformation i put it up mainly because its just moving version of the still pic. Yoruichi's shows the activation but not the shirt being blown off so i dont know you decide on those. Salubri 17:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Quotes and Trivia
These quotes and trivia sections have been gettin out of hand. There quote sections that have some quotes that are just random things said by the person in question nothing important that stands out to explain their personality or character. The trivia sections sometimes run the risk of not being facts and just random info that may be more speculation then fact on some profiles. They both need to be cut back. Salubri 05:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Halibel
we'll change it when the chapter is translated I know some people won't like it but hey this is how is spelled by the author himself. Waiting for the Chapter to be out will save us time having to explain about it to most people. I had a feeling her name was spelled wrong to beging (although I though Hallibel instead) since as you probably noticed all Arrancar have a double letter in their name.WhiteStrike 18:54, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Bleach
I've been thinking about this and i'm wondering when do you think that bleach will end or even if it will end and if it does what's gonna happen to this site i mean the info will still be here but what will happen to all the users here, maybe a couple of the admins will stay just to see if anyone re writes or erases stuff but there won't be a real need for anyone else? I know it's probably a stupid question and you don't have to answer it if you don't want to it's just something that i thought about.--SalmanH 18:03, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thak you for the welcome. I'm already somewhat experienced in wikis, as I signed up to the Narutopedia some time ago, and inadvertenly signed up to all the wikis. I even started my own article on the Narutopedia. I'll be sure to ask for help if I need it.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 17:35, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Licensing
Do we have to put license on whatever we upload or we just leave them be?And if we are to license, how do you do that?Agate genbu 05:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

oh okay...thanks...haha...--Agate genbu 05:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

3rd Division
Hey it was brought to my attention that in the 3rd division article there are three characters only seen once and dont have anything at all on their page. The person was basically wondering do to that it would make sense to get rid of the profiles all together cause there is a likelihood that nothing will ever be put there. I didnt know what to tell him at the time because i wasnt sure what should be done if anything myself. So what do you think lol. Salubri 13:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Forums
Ok just to let you know i moved a bunch of conversations from various talk pages to the forums as they weren't relevant conversations about the page or issues with it or how to improve it. They were just random conversations. Also about the 3rd Division thing apparently the person that brought it up made a listing of possible unnecessary articles. Im not gonna be on for a couple hours but he listed them at the bottom of my talk page so you can see what im talking about for yourself, maybe you'll have time to deal with it. Salubri 20:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

signature
oh, sorry. I could've sword i did that. Sorry bout that. Jason Garrick 04:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Name
I Just recently came across some information, which is interesting cause id have figured i would have noticed alot sooner. Any how i was reading my copy of Bleach Official Character Book Souls, pg. 200 and it turns out we have been arranging the Generals name the wrong way since day 1. It turns out his actual name arrangement is Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto not Shigekuni Yamamoto-Genryūsai. I suppose i should change it as soon as possible. Salubri 00:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Soifon's Bankai
Hey help me out on this one. Its come to my attention that her name bankai's name may not be translated correctly. Supposedly its supposed to have suzumebach in front but all the translations just have the ending part apparently. Let me know if you can find any raws cause i cant seem to find any. Or at the very least if im just over analyzing. Salubri 23:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Pardon the interruption...I checked the raw, and she says bankai, and then the command. If you look at the kanji for the first word of the bankai command, and the name of her zanpakutou, they're the same.  So the reading has changed, but they're the same kanji.  Thus, it should read "Jakuhou Raikouben".  Big red01027 02:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Zaraki's Height
Im not sure where anyone gets the 6'7 1/2" but im looking at the official character guide and it clearly says 6'6" i even went through the profiles earlier this week and listed what page in the book you can find it on so there was no mistakes and people can see for themselves. Salubri 15:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh ok i see yea. The character book is in feet, inches and ibs actually. But ill find out what the correct cm and kg. Also on a side note something needs to be done with this soifon situation. We got two divided groups on what her bankai is actually supposed to be. Im confused we got one side saying japanese says this, another saying well its got the kanji for the core name in it and so forth. Im gonna be honest when it comes to Kanji and Romaji im confused mainly cause none of the translations ive seen come out the way we have them listed. Anyhow we need someone who actually knows japanese to figure this one out or we are gonna be forced to wait till the end of the summer to see if its mentioned in the anime. Either way this is getting out of hand. Salubri 15:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Book
Lol actually I have the actual paperback copy. Interestingly enough I got it like 2 months ago at Borders. Randomly went over to the manga section just to see if they had anything interesting not really a chapter cause i can read those online for free. I any case there it was and i picked up for $14.99. I would check there or at the very least ask them to order it for you. Salubri 16:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Reference
I need to put up something like a heading or something at the top of Iba's page stating that the page is in need of proper referencing, yet im getting nowhere.Salubri 18:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Article
Whats with some of these articles are they really necessary like unnamed female arrancar and unnamed cloning arrancar i mean i know they got info for it but its like kinda pointless that they have their own pages maybe if they were on one page. Also on that note whats with the Bankai User page is that even relevant to the site or more of fan thing, mind you i didnt even know it existed until a few minutes ago, thats how obscure the article is. Salubri 01:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Deletion
Ok so i talked to whitestrike and he basically agreed if those pages are no good we should delete them. I got rid of bankai user already and the ryoka (fan use) mainly because of the reasons i expressed before about the fan content on the site. i will eventually get around to the other 2 arrancar pages. Salubri 16:26, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Arturo
Been searching for videos on the web. Limited source. Wondering if this picture is good. The one you have up now is great quality but doesnt show anything, not even his hollow mask.



Arturo
Im sorry, what do you mean? What does this scan look like. Please dont tell me it depicts him like the openings for 3rd Phantom and Shattered Blade.

Shuhei Hisagi Trivia
The Trivia I put actually made since and was accurate but somebody still removed it. Why? can certain people only add to the information pages? I stated that Shuhei and Kensei both have Zanpaktou pertaining to Wind.(Kaze)

Guidelines
To tell you the truth im really not sure what the policy is on that. I mean it seems we can do the manga, anime, video games. Im thinking though that even if its from a magazine as long as it is directly represented from the video game then yes it can be used. It neither fan created or anything like that so it should be ok. Also on a side note ive been thinking for a while now wouldnt it make since to just have some general guidelines to follow on the wiki. For example have it stated the pics on the profiles and articles are to be kept at 190 no more or less & the pics may be placed on either left or right except in case of the powers and abilities sections as the right is preferred so as not to throw off the organization of the section. Trivia section is only for facts not fan speculation or what ifs or unimportant notes. Article talk pages are for talk regarding maintenance and article content issues, and the personal pages of users are not to edit as if it was an article page, do not remove the {clear} where necessary as its disrupts the integrity of the article sections. Stuff like that, i figure if it was actually listed similar to the spoiler policy, then there would be less of having to constantly engage in these conversations that shouldn't have to be necessary with every person that comes on the site. Reducing editing wars and the like. It was just a thought but what do you think. Salubri 00:17, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Cool then we should see about getting that together. Salubri 02:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok here is whats up im gonna give you my contribution and you put down yours and then pass it out to whitestrike and then we'll finalize it and he can write it up he said.

>1. Article pictures are to be kept no more and no less then a size of 190. >2. Pics can be placed on the left or right of a article, except in the case of the powers and abilities section which can only be on the right. (that section has a organization on the left side and any pics on the left will disregard the organization). >3. The trivia section is for actual facts related to the article. Fan speculation and what ifs and maybe type of information is not for this section. >4. The talk page is for conversations on maintenance and article correctness only. General conversations and speculation is to be only placed in forums >5. Please do not remove {clears} from respective articles as to do so can ruin the integrity of the articles sections causing them to run into each other. >6. If you place information in the history and synopsis section please reference it. >7. Fan fiction is not permitted at all in any context. Though what you do on your personal page is your business as long as its not offensive.

Thats all i could think of. Now its all you. Salubri 03:02, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Check out the Bleach Wiki:About page this is what I got so far let me know if there is anything else you want to add. Is not finish but I went ahead an put what I had in so you guys didn't think I forgot. WhiteStrike 08:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Tosen
Yea i did the references for his page sunday. So i had to go through all that and its really stretching it. Because its just pictures and its never even stated once in the series its just a general assumption. While i agree thats possible the explanation given on his profile its just to much information as if its true and its alot of assumption. There is the other argument for that it was his and he put it down and picked it up. The problem is that there has never been another case of this situation and it seems out of place that he would use someone elses zanpakuto and not his own. Now if you wanna go with the idea that it is what happened sure but suggesting the reasons why and all that isnt factual cause we dont know. Salubri 06:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Shinso
Fine, I shall leave that out. But if you dont get them from the Dub, then where? As far as I know, his commands in the manga dont end with pronouns.--Kylecharmed 16:44, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

They are actually said in the manga. Salubri 22:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey
So did you come up with any guidelines. Salubri 22:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Nel
Hey do you remember a liltle while someone kept changing the spelling of Nel's name from Neliel to Nelliel. Well lately I have been finding merchandise for her with the spelling of Nelliel. Now normally I would even consider this except for the fact that prior to Harribel's name being revealed to be written as such in the manga I had seen her name as Harribel in the card game so what do you think, we never seen Neliel in any official source. WhiteStrike 09:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * OK! glad that you agree with me on this. It took me a little while to answer you back since i was looking for some proof so we wouldn't have to much problems with users asking where did this info came from. Here is a link so you can see it for your self and I'll soon start changing the articles. WhiteStrike 15:29, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey!!!
Hey I was talking ta the user salubri about becoming Captain here for the Bleach wiki, and he said I need your approval and two other peoples approval first so how do I prove myself, oh and if this helps Im the Sysop of the Haruhi Wiki, I know plenty about Bleach, I can help out alot!!!^_^ Falzar300 (Talk) 22:09, 13 June 2009 (UTC)>

Article's lacking in information
Yea thanks on that. I mean Rukia, Tessai, Yachiru, Urahara. These profiles are grossly uninformative and its plain wrong. I dont really have time to do it myself because im dealing with another big problem, the fact that there are a vast majority of articles that have little to no references to speak of, which is unacceptable. Ive already done, Yamamoto, Gin, Unohana, Tosen, Kira, Isane, Momo, Iba, Nanao, Hisagi, Chojiro, Nemu, Shunsui, Ukitake, Aizen and im in the middle of Kenpachi right now. Ive already had it planned to do the rest of the Gotei 13. But yea I cant really do those articles if the information isn't there. Salubri 23:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Current story... misuse
Hey, Arrancar109! You offered your help with anything that troubles me. Well, here it goes. On the section called Current Story... on the main page someone wrote With Harribel and Barragan defeated,. I'm sure I'm not the only one who saw the flaw in that statement, because that is a fact not proven this far. Maybe the word supposed or something else should be inserted there. Can you tell me how to edit that part (Edit page doesn't contain means to modify the Current story section), or if you could edit it yourself...? In any case, thanks for paying attention to my whining. Auron85 13:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Conversions
I just looked over the translations myself. Now that information is from the bleach official bootleg and its also just the same as what i changed them all to. The only actual discrepancy is with the height of komamura and tosen. Other then that the kg and cm are exactly the same as what the ibs and feet in the official character book are.Salubri 20:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Also my only concern is those are actually referenced pages for those measurements, now you change them and remove referencing information. its gonna end up another editing war situation cause there are gonna be people sayings its not correct cause the english version with the page number says its wrong. Salubri 09:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

In fact you would have to determine which one your using the information your changing comes from the bleach official bootleg so which one do you wanna use as reference on that particular case. because there two different sources and you cant site it under the bleach official character book souls because that information doesn't come from there. Salubri 09:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Guidelines
I agree there needs to be regulation for the pics on here. Did you know there is over 13 pics of ichigo's main pic on here why is that. I would suggest though that each profile has its on link to its own pic gallery so the manga and anime pics can be show cased and the profiles dont get bogged down with a bunch of non relevant pics. Having said that im not sure about the anime and manga situation. Personally color wins over black and white every time. The look is just better and you get more and better detail. All the more reason to just relay the color filled version and show case the difference in the pic gallery. so its still part of the profile. Thats my take what you think. Salubri 00:12, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Also the sooner we come to some agreement on this particular thing we can move ahead and ill draw it all together and hand it off to whitestrike. Salubri 00:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey we can iron out the details on the gallery thing later but. have you finalized what you wanna say for the guidelines are u cool with what u initially gave me. And we'll tweek it later on. Salubri 05:01, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Valley of Screams edit by PewpewFiah.
Thanks for doing the box there, I was just looking at other articles how to do it and was getting a bit confused. Thanks to you editing it i understand how them boxes work, Thanks =) Oh and sorry if i seem like im editing too much from the get-go. Just noticed a few typo's and things =D. I dunno how i even broke that box in the first place lol.

PewpewFiah 00:34, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Replacing manga images with anime images
You should update the manga images instead of creating a new image. For example, allon.jpg was a manga image. You uploaded a new image named allonanime.png. You should have instead uploaded a new version on Allon.jpg instead. This way the FILE HISTORY of this image will be saved. See http://bleach.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:AnimeImages_on_wikia&t=20090618170038 - Nytemyre 17:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

changing pictures
How did you license a picture without having someone changing it?

Hey
You never got back to me on the guideline thing I was in agreement with what you put. I was just wondering if you finalized what it was so i can draw the stuff we have up so whitestrike can write it up.Salubri 20:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Character Box
I dont know if I am even allowed to ask this, but, how did you guys make that character box? I am trying to start a wiki and, well, I need something like the character box to display information. However, when I copied and pasted it into the wiki it didnt work.

By my guess, you set it up as a template. Dont know if thats true, either. If you dont want to give out secrets, thats fine, I just wanted to know.--Kylecharmed 23:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Delete
excuse me sir, how do you delete uploaded files? I made an error and duplicated my file. Here's the link if you want to delete it http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/File:Tsuzuriraiden.jpg. thank you. --Agate genbu 03:24, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Technique Pages
Hi Arrancar109, I have an idea for the technique pages. On each page, we should put something like this:


 * Name: Official Name (Name given in English Tv, romanji name [no comma] kanji name, other names)
 * Type: [Close Combat, Long-Range, Short-Range, Rank [A,B,C,D], Kido, Supplementary, Cero etc...]
 * User(s): [List of Users or group such as Hollow, Arrancar, Vizard or Shinigami]
 * Debut (Manga):
 * Debut (Anime):

When I put thing in its part of the actual text, when [] it was just that I was citing some examples. Would this be a good idea? It could be adjusted to something suitable if you wish. --NejiByakugan360 - Please respond on my Talk Page! 17:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Urahara
I finally did it. It literally took all day but i did Urahara's page, completely referenced it and added the information that was greatly lacking. So check it out. I also undertook the same situation on Toshiro's page yesterday so check on that as well. let me know what you think.Salubri 01:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

hey
Issue I was just on aizen's page and i had previously referenced it. But I go back and look at the manga and anime before he left soul society. I haven't found one thing were he says he has reached the limit in the four types of shinigami combat. I have seen him tell ichigo about it to explain why he set up killing rukia for the orb of distortion and how he mentions hollowfication. But nothing about him reaching full potential power in those forms. I think we need to pull that info stating that out of the powers and abilities sections and leave what has actually been shown. We also need to remove hand-to-hand as he has never been shown using it actually and as stated before we don't know what he is capable toward it.Salubri 01:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Rangiku
I only watch the English and she has released her Zanpakuto four times

Soul Society
Roar: whilst fighting Izuru

Bount
Roar: against the Bount doll, Baura

Arrancar
Growl: against Grimmjow's fraccion

Growl: when protecting Shota


 * So why should we go with "roar" over "growl", especially when it has been "growl" most recently?

Admins
Hey Arrancar109 as you have noticed the wiki is growing and is becoming quite hard to mantain all the trafic we experience with just; you, Salubri and myself, so I think that we sould look for one or two more admins. I have at least one posible candidate in mind, but I would like to hear you thoughs on it first. Also on that note I belive is time that ree of us become the new beaurocrat of the wiki seeing as how Mili-Cien and TheUltimate3 aren't here very ofteny. Let me know what thoughs you have on this matters. WhiteStrike 03:44, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

i'd like to be an admin--Kisukeiscool100396 04:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

So how would we decide who should be a bureaucrat.Salubri 14:42, 3 July 2009 (UTC) "Check out User:Domlith and let me know what you think. WhiteStrike 23:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Status
I think we need to change starrks status saying he defeated Shunsui doesn't really say anything about his status. Its like had he been defeated that would be his status. So why would it make sense to list his status as him defeating someone considering that took place and now where on to something else. Grimmjaw is listed as defeated and wounded and that is his status, ichigo defeated him and he was further wounded by Nnorita as that is what directly happened to him last we saw. It would seem stating active in Karakura town to be a better representation of his status then detailing one action because if he does something else then we would have to list that as well.Salubri 03:13, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

yea i saw the user doing that i was still contemplating if i was gonna do anything about it though, but i see you already took care of that.Salubri 03:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

RE:Superchunky?
Whitestrike hasn't been on in a minute and i was on when they did but there was no discussion they just put it up. I didn't really jump on it though, so feel free to do what you will and explain it to them cause im so getting tired of doing so today.Salubri 01:55, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Manga / Anime
I was wondering because we never really talked about what the do with the differences between the manga and the anime. The anime is obviously extended so should that be included in the actual synopsis and if so should we just add it as an extension to what happened in the anime. The reason i asked is because it looks weird when you give what happens in the manga and then give a extended or conflicting story in the anime. Which one takes precedent. I would say the manga but im not sure let me know what you think.Salubri 17:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Bypassing Redirects
Arrancar109, there's no need to bypass redirects as stated by Staff Editor Daniel Friesen, i.e. Stop redirecting Shinigamy Academy to Shinou Academy in Shuhei Hisagi's Webpage. I used to do this too, but I was informed not to do it. Besides, Shinou Academy already has its own webpage and should immediately be directed there. It's only fair that you follow this rule too.--Ethelion 10:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Hollowfication
I have been thinking when i originally put the hollowfication catagory down for the various vizards it had more to do with us not know that much of anything about them. But over the course of the series thats become more pointless. Im thinking of taking out the hollowfication section all together and just having vizard under the powers and abilities section just like zanpakuto is, as it seems pointless for it to be seperate when it is something that should be under powers and abilities. What do you think?Salubri 16:47, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Byakuya's picture
I have no problem with moving the full body picture to his apperance and putting a close up back as his profile picture. If you want you can go ahead and do it if not i'll get to it later. WhiteStrike 17:05, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Power & Abilities
On another note i been meanong to ask both you and Salubry about maybe removing the Master/Expert/Expecialist etc. part of their power and abilities and just simply leaving swordmanship Kidō and the others with out any sort of classifcation since it seems highly speculative. let me know what's your take on this I'll sak Salubry as well. WhiteStrike 17:05, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

LOSER!!!! =p
Dude they no longer have spoilers..these things have already been translated into english and so I thiink it's time that I post the pics of what I want..it doesn't spoil a darn thing and it's really pissing me off that your taking them off after I upload them so please stop..let them be..adios perdedor

Sorry
My deepest apologies..I did not know that..well besides that I have new pics for the twins Fujimaru and Matsuri Kudo that I'd like to put onto their bios

Hello
Hi! Thanks for the welcome... I'm not sure if I'll be here often, since I'm usually too lazy to go on wikias... or wikipedia... yeah... But I'll be around! >>[suzu]{me} [bachi]~ ~ ~ 21:13, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Yuroichi's tatoo...
I notice that when myself and another user added a note to her tatoo seen in episode 228, you have removed both edits. Is it filler? TomServo101 17:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I did know it originated from a manga issue (I have read that one), but tbh I did have an inkling that some might have had a 'filler issue' with it regardless. But no biggie.

where does the statistical data charts come from
i saw toushiro given 500, with a baby bankai now i must really question the rest of them, he is given the boy genius title i understand why, can't remembering him using kidou and the ability that makes him soo powerful is hyoten hyakkaso which is just revealed in the latest espiodes. i dont understand why he was allowed used that technique against only the 3rd espada when it should be able to kill anybody but yammamoto. the storyline for him like ichigo fluctuates making them near invincible one time then very weak the next no consistency. sorry about the blathering lol, just wanted to know where u got the data chart from.Shinji hirako 20:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

my edits
hey arrancar109,how come u keep reverting my edits without specifying a reason for it????Saiyan16 13:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

hey arrancar109,please make sure u reply at list THIS ONCE!!!!now i can't actually get why you disagree with me onSaiyan16 16:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Inoue Orihime being a main character,whereas it is quite apparent,and its even mentioned in her page in wikipedia.please reply.

thnx a lot for understanding,and for explaining it so well,and i used heroine because i found it in rukia's page,i tend not to use it either.Saiyan16 17:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Check It Out
Hey I made a forum conversation earlier and someone put up a youtube link about chapter 367 and 368. I dont know that its real or not but the 367 is really interesting and id like to see it go down but 368 is really questionable and i dont think its true at all. but either way both are really interesting to read. Check it out and let me know what you think cause its that crazy i had to show you. Its under Forum:Vizard Battles.Salubri 19:58, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Guidelines
Well I'm pretty much done with the Bleach Wiki:About page can't think of anything more to add so I'll have you and Salubri give it one last look over and let me know what you think after that I'll put a link to it in both the main page and the header. WhiteStrike 01:12, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

hi thanks
hi how are you?? you know im still new so i need alot help ...will you help me please?? its nice to meet you ^_^--Magicalfairy 09:43, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I dont know why the &#160's are on the page, I didnt put them there. However the Squad 4 Captain and the squad 10 Vice Captain both have non-sword Shikai. They need to be added so that any reader will be informed of it. The way it is now suggest that only those listed have non sword Shikai, so we need to add them

sorry
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sorry i was just trying to prank my bro for a minute then i was going to change it back and renji's age is true he is 42 and neliel is 20

gin ichimaru
saw your thread not bad, didnt like the data table much, (i know that has nothing to do with u), i personally feel he is smarter than aizen cause he doesnt let his ego get in the way of what has to be done, was always suspicious of the way he allows people through to attack aizen then was pretty casual after aizen was momentarily captured saying what shall i do now, would really like for him to step through and be the real villain killing aizen from behind, then taking care of tousen as well then taking the espada and returning to hueco mundo to rule there, i dont think the vizards have a beef with him so i feel they would let him go without much fuss they dont like aizen or tousen that much is clear. what say ye? Shinji hirako 02:15, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Vizard/Cero
Hi, at the Vizard page on the subject Cero you changed the thing that Ichigo cant use cero. Can i ask you why you changed it?

Thanks --Uchiha Yamato 00:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Re:Cero
But in manga 350 page 14-16 it is shown that Ichigo uses a Cero.

... ... ...
Exactly how many of my edits do you intend to revert before you tell me why? It's getting seriously annoying, and you're not even reverting incorrect edits. Shinji doesn't wear a beret -- If it was a beret, the brim would be turned to the side. It's a newsboy cap -- It's obvious to tell, because the brim is turned forward. Care to tell me how THAT warranted a reverted edit?

Komamura's Main Image
If you think that your choice of image was better, then why didn't you reply to my suggestion with your feedback to begin with? Nobody objected before, and I SPECIFICALLY wrote in Komamura's Discussion Page to reply back if anyone wished to contradict otherwise. BUT YOU DIDN'T. So I assumed that I can push through with my idea. Yet you still reverted it back by finally giving your reason just now. You should have at least left a message of your contradiction to my idea. I already talked with Salubri on the matter because I had the same issue with him regarding the matter and he admitted that he made a mistake. What you did just now was very hurtful; Did you even bother to read the discussion page? I EVEN gave my reasons why I think my choice was better. Don't get me wrong here, I also respect your decision; Let's compare ideas here and PLEASE, just give me an explanation why you didn't reply to my message in the discussion page in the first place.--Ethelion 15:51, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I see what you mean. Both our choices have its pros and cons. To be fair, let's return the image back to WhiteStrike's image for now; I'll try to find a better Komamura image (in the current arc) in the meantime and I'll show it to you tomorrow (it's getting late for me, it's 12:18 am in my time). Then, let me know what you think, okay? Deal?--Ethelion 16:19, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

It's agreed then. We'll both look for better images (and let Salubri in on this too; he might contradict if we don't) and compare ideas. Thank you very much for not only hearing me out, but also engaging in a compromise. I really appreciate this, and your on your way to being a better staff-editor.:)--Ethelion 16:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Follow-Up to "Komamura's Main Image" Section
Hey Arrancar109. I'd like to pick up where we left off yesterday Re: Komamura's Main Image. Here's an updated screenshot of Komamura in the current arc (Fake Karakura Town Arc).

As you can see, this image accommodates both our points in his appearance; Komamura is now facing in front of the screen (your point) and still has a close-up on his face (my point). So, what do you think? Is it better?--Ethelion 07:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll ask try asking Salubri.--Ethelion 21:09, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Salubri says it's fine. Since both of you are staff editors, and both of you approved of it, I'll put it up, okay?--Ethelion 00:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Zanpakuto Unknown Tales arc
To say im excited about this arc would be a understatement. Regardless of it being a filler its going to awesome and we get to learn so much more about the zanpakuto in general. Especially the ones we know so little about. The reason i wanted to message you about it is, besides the arc information thats gonna be in the synopsis. We need to be aware of how much the zanpakuto sections weill probably expand. Not only will the information be there but much like Ichigo's, renji and Toshiro's page pics of the manifested zanpakuto soul. Which brings up another situation what to do about toshiro's and renji's page obviously their zanpakuto spirits are gonna take on human forms which i think we can work out by placing the pics of the animal forms in their respective places in synopsis section. I just thought we would try to get a game plan together before it gets crazy. let me know what you think.Salubri 15:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Zanpakutō arc
As you know the new Zanpakuto arc has started and the info is already making is way into the main articles. Since in this arc the Zanpakuto themselves are the antagonist the best way to orgainze this info is to give them their own pages. As we seen Renji and Hitsugaya both have already shown their spirits materialized, and in the episode the have a compltely diferrent look so is to say that they are different. For now labeling the pages such us Sode no Shirayuki (spirit), Kazeshini (spirit), Haineko (spirit) and so on and so forth. This is the easiest way to mantian the articles in the order that they are right now, in order words we can think of them as Hollow Ichigo a completly different form of the original Zanpakuto (Hollow Ichigo has claimed to be Zangetsu). Let me know what you think but any way you look at it this is most definetly the best course of action. WhiteStrike 17:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know we are going under the automatic notion that just because their the antagonists they are separate because they don't look like animals or what we think is their true form which we have only seen three to date. It just seems unnecessary. Zangetsu will turn against ichigo in the arc as well does that mean he gets his own page now cause as i recall we were against that as well as the its confusing as if he is entirely separate with no relation to ichigo even though we know he is apart of him and ichigo uses his power. It seems that by separating them we are taking away the context they are part of their wielder. i understand the reasoning being their interaction as separate in the arc. But that information rightly should be addressed in the zanpakuto section as it is on toshiro, ichigo and renji's pages. After all the only thing it goes against is one time seeing zabimaru and 2 times seeing hyorinmaru, whose to say they only have one form, what happens if thats shown in the arc that they have more then one? The question i would ask is how are these separate pages going to relate to the pages already made because regardless of them being the antagonists they are the zanpakuto spirits of the characters. Even now the hollow ichigo page is somewhat presented out of context as if he had no connection to ichigo (thats moot that can be fixed when ichigo's page is edited and referenced properly). Is it gonna be linked by the zanpakuto name to these pages? Theres gonna be wild speculation on the articles when they show powers that the shinigami havent used. Also the zanpakuto page is gonna get hit hard as well most likely. I just think if thats what you guys wanna do, it has to showcase they are not truly separate, it has to be really tied to the page, also in which case i guess zangetsu and hyorinmaru and zabimaru will no longer be presented on their wielders page. Salubri 18:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)