Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner

The Translation Corner is a group of Bleach Wiki users who are tasked with translating the various names, abilities, techniques and etc. found in the Bleach Universe. Being that Bleach is a Japanese manga that use Japanese, Chinese, Indian, German, Spanish and English language in various instances and cases, the use of translators is a focal point to the continuation of accuracy on the wiki. All users should read our Translation Guidelines before you start translating.

Roles of the Translation Corner
The following are the duties of the corner:


 * 1. To assure the correctness of all translations that are presented on the site.


 * 2. To determine the outcome of Contentious Translations: If a translation is questioned at all, that should be brought up in this section. In this way a translator, committee member or admin can explain why the translation is used or conversation can take place for translations that are harder to classify.


 * 3. To determine the correct translation of Zanpakutō (names, release calls, etc.): This section is for requests for translation of zanpakuto and zanpakuto related translations.


 * 4. To determine the correct translation of Character and element (e.g. devices) names: This section is for requests for translation of characters/techniques/equipment and general key words.


 * 5. To determine the correct translation of General/Other translation issues (e.g. conjugation/miscellanea): This section is for requests about translations that don't fit any particular criteria such as conjugation or such things such as accents used in the names.

Associate Members
The following users are approved members of the Translation Corner. As per the rules of the corner, any non-members answering translation questions will have their posts removed. If you are not a member of the Translation Corner, DO NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THEIR BEHALF!
 * Adam Restling (Primary Japanese Translator)
 * ЖенёqSig.png
 * 【I'm just... Mad】
 * Andygoesrawr

Inactive Members
The following users are still members of the Translation Corner. Their names have been placed here due to prolonged inactivity. Should they return, they retain the right to answer translation questions as official members of the Corner.
 * MarqFJA
 * Vraieesprit

References & Sources

 * Kanji-to-English:
 * Tangorin
 * Mahou Kanji Dictionary
 * Kanji Networks
 * OldNihongo.J-Talk.Com
 * Denshi Jisho
 * Basic Japanese verbal data: The imperative inflection of Japanese verbs

Associate Box
Ok folks I have finally gotten around to makeing the Associate Box. You can put it on your user page using the command. Below is what the box looks like. Tinni  (Talk)  14:37, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Translation Guidelines

 * Anyone doing any form of translation. Looking up on Google Translate or similar translation tools, is not translating. You are not doing the site any favors by doing amateur translation. Please refrain from using such tools.


 * This is not a conversation page. It is a simple question and answer page for translation. All conversations should be held on a particular user talk page or the talk page of this page.


 * Users should simply place their request and wait for it to be answered. To keep it simple, if the user posting the request has no real understanding of translation, the point is not for you to learn how to translate here. Usage of the page should extend no more then to asking for a translation to be done. Please refrain from badgering the translators for understanding on why a translation is translated a certain way. If you knew anything about translation you wouldn't be asking someone else to do it, therefore it makes no sense to argue with them.


 * If you are not a member of the translation corner, please do not answer translation questions. Leave it to our translators so as to avoid confusion.


 * Admin have the final say on the translation being placed into a article.


 * If you are not a translation corner member and are answering posts or giving opinion on this page they will be removed, this is a translation corner member answer page, not a conversation page.

Kaidō
Shouldn't the translation of "Kaidō" be "Way of Healing" instead of "Turn Way" to match the rest of the Kidō list? The meaning inferred for the kanji, 道, in this case would be "teaching" and the kanji, 回, technically means revolve, round, or is used as a counter for occurrences (although quite a lot of Japanese games use it as part of the name for curative/healing skills). Even, "Way of Turning" sounds more fitting than "Turn Way". Setsu 16:11, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

Zanpakutō (names, release calls, etc.)
Needing a much long awaited re-translation on Katen Kyōkotsu (花天狂骨) and the much more recent bankai Katen Kyōkotsu: Kuromatsu Shinjū. To use as a reference Mangastreams translation (Secret of Heavenly Blooming Madness: Black Pine Double Suicide or Bones of the Heavenly Blooming Madness) These are reasonably acceptable as translations. Hopefully within the confines of what we have come to expect of the translation we can find out whats what.--
 * I would translate Shunsui's Zanpakutō as "Bones of Heavenly Blooming Madness", and his Bankai goes like that:

On Kyouraku's article the last bankai technique is mispelled: it says Shime no Dan: Itokirihasami Chizomeno Nodoboe, instead of Shime no Dan: Itokiribasami Chizome no Nodobue.Raw here. Also, someone can check the hiragana for Daruma-san ga Koronda tech? It says だぁるまさん が こぁろんだ that would be DAaRUMA-SAN GA KOaRONDA.--EvilDragonLord 16:39, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

Would just like to add that I think the older translation of "Flower Heaven, Crazy Bones" is far more appropriate. Nanao confirmed that Katen Kyoukotsu is known to be made of two parts, Katen (Flower Heaven) and Kyoukotsu (Crazy Bones). Shunsui's explanation of how Kyoukotsu came to be also suggests that Katen and Kyoukotsu should remain separate in the translation. "Bones of Heavenly Blooming Madness" is a bit contrived, and doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Also, the kana for Daruma-san ga Koronda still needs to be updated as per EvilDragonLord's comment. It's incorrect to begin with, though it's attempting to be だぁるまさんがこぉろんだ (Daaruma-san ga Kooronda), but Shunsui only said that the first time he used it. After that he simply calls it だるまさんがころんだ, its proper name. I don't have a scan, but I can take a crappy photo of it in my copy of volume 71 if necessary.--Andygoesrawr (talk) 21:43, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Kannonbiraki Benihime Aratame
I spoke to Xilinoc about this on reddit last week, but I think it's a good time to review the translation now that we know its powers. It's probably best to go through each part of the name:

Kannonbiraki literally means "Guanyin-opened", but metaphorically refers to things being opened up from the centre, i.e. double doors (the origin of the meaning, as Guanyin's shrines feature double doors that swing open), even butterfly fillets. It would be great to capture all three meanings (i.e. double doors, filleting, and a reference to Guanyin), but that's not entirely feasible.

Benihime we all know. Crimson Princess.

Aratame has two meanings, inquisition and reform. Technically it should always mean "reform", but it seems to mean "inquisition" when it's used in a proper noun (i.e. 宗門改め, Religious Inquisition). Both meanings are appropriate, and likely intended.

So based on that, my suggested translation would be Inquisition and Reform of the Crimson Princess' Dissection. It's very very liberal since "dissection" isn't actually mentioned, but it would be either that or the "Crimson Princess' Fillets" which doesn't quite sound as nice. It's unfortunate that the reference to Avalokitesvara is lost, but one that includes everything would be Inquisition and Reform of the Crimson Princess' Dissection at the Doors of Avalokiteśvara, a bit of a mouthful.--Andygoesrawr (talk) 21:59, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Zangerin
Also need a translation on Hado #78 Zangerin --


 * Kanji is 斬華輪.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:28, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

Schutzstaffel
The furigana listed for "Schutzstaffel" on several pages is incorrect. This image shows quite clearly that it's シュッツシュタッフェル (shuttsushutafferu). ~

Some updates
It seems that in the latest volume, there is a 7 pages chapter that confirms what happened to Kira who is getting treatment from Kurotsuchi. Also confirms that Aoga survived and the name of Kanisawa is Hotaru (from what can be read). Raws here.--EvilDragonLord 22:57, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

Character name
On Horiuchi Hironari article, the name of the article is wrong, the correct name should be Hironari Horiuchi, going by the kanji 堀内 弘成 (Horiuchi Hironari).--EvilDragonLord 20:19, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

Quincy Stuff
There's a few Quincy things I'd like to go over. Starting with the most recent, "Leiden Hant" is hilariously bad. It should be Leidenhand (Hand of Suffering), as a terminal -d and -th are always pronounced as -t in German, hence why it's written "hanto" in Japanese. Leidenhant, Leidenhanth, and Leidenhand are the only correct interpretations of "raidenhanto", and of those "Leidenhand" is the only one made up of actual words. I also reason for the removal of the space between the words on the basis of there being no interpuct (・), which Kubo always puts inside words he intends to be two separate words.

Of the same vein, Seele Schneider really should be Seeleschneider. I'm not sure why it was ever written "Seele Schneider" to begin with, considering the chapter it appears in is called Seeleschneider. As above, there is no interpuct and therefore no space in English.

The Gintou spells are also desperately in need of a review. They all have incantations, though Heizen is the only one with one listed. Regarding that: I think it should read Rense formel vent i gral, which is a Danish phrase that means something very close to the Japanese version of the incantation. I know it's weird that it's Danish and not German, but it's not possible for it to be German, and those are all Danish words, so there we are. I think the name "Heizen" should also be looked at, as "Heizen" would actually be spelled ハイツェン (Haitsen), when it's actually spelled ハイゼン (Haizen). Therefore, it should either be Heisen, Heissen, or Heißen. Technically Heisen is the most appropriate given the spelling, but I think Heißen makes the most sense as it means "calling" and the Japanese is "sacred bite". Not at all the same, but more connected than if it meant "heating".

The name of Gritz is fine, though the kana should read グリッツ (see http://i.imgur.com/NI6V7wh.png). Its incantation reads "Tsierutokuriiku fon kiitsu haruto fieruto", which when transliterated would be Zieltkriech von Kiez halt viert. Unlike Heißen, this is actual German, though quite awkward to translate (which is okay because I believe we only list the translations of the Japanese incantations).

Wolke definitely needs to be reviewed. The kana should read ヴォルコール (see http://i.imgur.com/nDkpilt.png), which says "vorukooru", which I think anybody should be able to tell doesn't say "Wolke". I would suggest it be renamed to Wolchör, since that's pretty much the only way to transliterate vorukooru in German (like Gritz, I couldn't really say what it means but I can say it's a real enough word). Its incantation is "I shenku tsaihi", which I think should be Ich schenk Zeich, again "actual" German.--Andygoesrawr (talk) 22:45, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Ichibe'e Stuff
There's quite a few things wrong with Ichibe'e's page, but I'll start with the biggest one: his name cannot be written "Ichibē". That's just not his name. In Hepburn Romanisation (the system we use here), long vowels are never contracted with a macron when they're separated by a word border, as they are here. There are three kanji in the name "Ichibe'e" -- Ichi, be, and e. That means that's three different words, Ichi-be-e, and that needs to be expressed in the romanisation. The same is true for "Inoue", which is correctly written Inoue and not Inōe, as her name is I-no-ue, not I-nou-e. Ichibe'e can be written either as Ichibee, or the way I'm writing it in order to make it clear that "ee" is not pronounced as a long "i". Those who are well versed in Japanese mythology would know this is a common issue with the name "Susano'o" in English, as when written "Susanoo" it seems it should be pronounced "Susanu" to those who aren't au fait with Japanese orthography.

(As an aside, this is also true of the name "Sousuke", which is So-u-suke, not Sou-suke. That one is much better though because "so" should actually be "sou" (so "sou-u-suke"), but Kubo has omitted the long vowel on the first word in order to create a long vowel with the first two words. Still, "Sōsuke" is incorrect.)

The next biggest issue is with the translation of "Shirafude Ichimonji". I'm not sure who made the translation in the first place, but "Known Brush" is completely wrong. "Shira" is the ablaut form of "shiro", meaning white. It's true that "shira" can be a conjugated form of "shiru" which means "to know", but the -a form is the negative root or the irrealis stem, which means "shira" can't mean "known" (it can mean "ignorant", but that's still pushing it). "White Brush Straight Line" is the correct translation, and most people would know this without even knowing Japanese due to the fact that we have "Sode no Shirayuki".

Next is another issue with romanisation, where "Shinuchi" needs to be written "Shin'uchi". "N" is always written "n'" when it appears before a vowel or a "y" to differentiate "shi-n-u-chi" from "shi-nu-chi", again an issue of word borders (here as "shin-uchi", not "shi-nuchi"). Again this is also correctly seen on the Wiki with "Shin'eiyaku", which is shin-ei-yaku rather than shi-nei-yaku. I'd also suggest looking at the translation, because "headliner" is awful. Shin'uchi is pretty clearly meant to be a reference to Asauchi, which means the "uchi" in both should have the same translation. Shin'uchi should be translated as "True Hit" to match Asauchi's "Shallow Hit". (Its translation as "headliner" comes from its meaning as "the real stuff", as opposed to Asauchi's "missing the mark".)

The last one is just a mistake. "Futen Daisatsuryō" is actually "Futen Taisatsuryō" (see http://i.imgur.com/hIpmO2D.png). Also, the translation is wrong. "Unheavenly Imperial Tomb of Great Slaughter" looks like a translation someone made without reading the kanji, as ten is written 転 and not 天. As such, the proper translation is "Slaughterous Mausoleum of Halted Reincarnation".--Andygoesrawr (talk) 22:46, March 15, 2016 (UTC)

Tessai's name
Tessai should be written in kanji 鉄裁. Right now it's in katakana テッサイ. Yatanogarasu (talk) 00:51, April 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * Tessai's name is written in katakana (see http://i.imgur.com/4ACBFkO.png). Do you have a panel where it is written using kanji? -Andygoesrawr (talk) 03:24, April 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * Actually, I got it from the Japanese Wikipedia article. Yatanogarasu (talk) 05:37, April 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * I saw that also, but we'll need an actual source since one isn't listed there. I only have UNMASKED in raw so I'm not sure how it's written in the character books.-Andygoesrawr (talk) 06:51, April 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * Should we try raw manga volumes? Yatanogarasu (talk) 07:17, April 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * Found it! http://i.imgur.com/6NhJxD2.png -- it looks like it was spelled with kanji during his time in Soul Society, but is now spelled with katakana. I'd suggest using the kanji in his article and maybe mentioning the fact that it's now spelled with katakana in the trivia section.-Andygoesrawr (talk) 08:15, April 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * That would be great, but do we need to source the difference in spelling, or just go ahead and change it? Because I don't exactly know what chapters to reference for. P.S., sorry it took so long to reply. Yatanogarasu (talk) 08:30, May 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've done the revision and added it into the trivia. Yatanogarasu (talk) 02:25, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Tedoriru
Should we change it to Te-drill? Since we changed Sandobaggu Bīto to "Sandbag Beat". Yatanogarasu (talk) 08:30, May 9, 2016 (UTC)

Shinji (Human)'s Family Name
A user has pointed out that the kanji of this character's name is on the front of his kendo gear. I believe this to be correct as the writing on Renji's matches his name. Kanji is apparently 飯島. Can we please confirm this is the exact kanji and the correct reading of name etc. Scene is 15.28 into the video. Thank you, 18:43, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

--

I have the image uploaded. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 02:57, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

--

I think the article here is proof that "飯島" is romanized as "Ijima". Therefore, I hereby request that the article be renamed as "Shinji Ijima", as I've orginally proposed. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 14:32, September 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * Kanji is correct, but as all Japanese names it has multiple possible readings. Though, Ījima seems to be way more popular than the rest. 14:55, September 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * Previously, there was a poll that determined the name for Shinji's page. Shall we create a second poll to decide whether or not the page should be called "Shinji Ijima"? --Sk8erPrince (talk) 01:54, September 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * Any news from the translator? I don't mean to sound rude, but honestly, it shouldn't take more than 3 weeks to verify the romaji of two Japanese characters. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 02:04, September 27, 2016 (UTC)


 * Please have patience it will take as long as it takes.


 * I messaged Andy a couple of weeks ago and have just left a message for other members of the corner. If we do not hear back form any of them in the next few days, say by Monday, I am happy to go with Женёq's post. It is pretty clear that it is the right kanji and that Ijima or Ījima is one of the readings and is an actual Japanese name. Given that there is no katakana etc to give direction on a reading for it and it is not said out loud in the episode (as far as I can hear anyway), I think that any translator is going to just have to make a best guess anyway. 21:22, September 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * It seems to me that the most common way of romanizing 飯島 as a surname (it can be a given name as well) is actually "Iijima", with a double i instead of a single one.
 * Vraieesprit also suggested Iijima. I have made the change. Thanks for the input, and good to see that you're still alive an kicking. 20:08, October 1, 2016 (UTC)

Episode 230-265 sans 256
Having seen the considerable difference between the current title of Episode 256 ("Byakuya's anger, collapse of the Kuchiki family") and Adam's rendering of its kanji/kana ("The Enraged Byakuya! Collapse of the House of Kuchiki"), I've decided to do the same to the other episodes of the Zanpakutō and Tōjū arcs, so Adam, if you could take a crack at each of the following, I'd appreciate it very much.


 * Episode 245:


 * Episode 246:


 * Episode 247:


 * Episode 248:


 * Episode 249:


 * Episode 250:


 * Episode 251:


 * Episode 252:


 * Episode 253:


 * Episode 254:


 * Episode 255:


 * Episode 257: (note: I have a feeling the rōmanji here is off as well)


 * Episode 258:


 * Episode 259:


 * Episode 260:


 * Episode 261:


 * Episode 262:


 * Episode 263:


 * Episode 264:


 * Episode 265: (note: the kanji on this episode's page is actually from the previous episode, so if you could add what the kanji should actually be to your response, Adam, I'd greatly appreciate it)

Thanks a great deal in advance.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:12, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Chapter 666 title
Classic Kubo, throwing us a curveball with a Kanji title. Anywho, the Kanji appears to be "空っぽ、傀儡、伽藍堂" (Karappo, kairai, karandō).
 * It's actually Karappo, Kairai, Garandou. A literal translation is "Empty, Puppet, Empty" (technically Garandou means "temple hall", but it's used to mean empty). A liberal translation that sounds good is "Dull, Doll, Null".--Andygoesrawr (talk) 12:34, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

13 BLADES
Okay, with the series at an end I think it is time to address the 13 BLADES book, specifically the data book portions. While the canonicity of certain aspects of the book is up for debate, the data book portions likely have the most weight to them. In lieu of having to upload a large number of images, I have links to scans of the book, and would request for translations. Specifically, for any information that has not been addressed by the series itself. http://lightverse.tumblr.com/post/128925119844/zero-division-pages-from-bleach-13-blades-and-my http://lightverse.tumblr.com/post/126764622419/5th-division-pages-from-bleach-13-blades-and-my http://lightverse.tumblr.com/post/128579695974/13th-division-pages-from-bleach-13-blades-and-my

Thank you in advance. FutureEeveeKing13 (talk) 03:22, August 27, 2016 (UTC)