Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner

The Translation Corner is a group of Bleach Wiki users who the task to translate the various names, abilities, techniques and etc. found in the Bleach Universe. Being that Bleach is a Japanese manga that use Japanese, Chinese, Indian, German, Spanish and English language in various instances and cases, the use of translators are a focal point to the continuation of accuracy on the wiki. All users should read our Translation Guidelines before you start translating.

Roles of the Translation Corner
The following are the duties of the corner:


 * 1. To assure the correctness of all translations that are presented on the site.


 * 2. To determine the outcome of Contentious Translations: If a translation is questioned at all, that should be brought up in this section. In this way a translator, committee member or admin can explain why the translation is used or conversation can take place for translations that are harder to classify.


 * 3. To determine the correct translation of Zanpakutō (names, release calls, etc.): This section is for requests for translation of zanpakuto and zanpakuto related translations.


 * 4. To determine the correct translation of Character and element (e.g. devices) names: This section is for requests for translation of characters/techniques/equipment and general key words.


 * 5. To determine the correct translation of General/Other translation issues (e.g. conjugation/miscellanea): This section is for requests about translations that don't fit any particular criteria such as conjugation or such things such as accents used in the names.

Associate Members

 * Adam Restling (Primary Japanese Translator)
 * MarqFJA (Secondary Japanese Translator)
 * (Japanese)
 * Lia Schiffer (Primary Spanish Translator)
 * Vraieesprit (Japanese to English Translation)

References & Sources

 * Kanji-to-English:
 * Tangorin
 * Mahou Kanji Dictionary
 * Kanji Networks
 * OldNihongo.J-Talk.Com
 * Basic Japanese verbal data: The imperative inflection of Japanese verbs

Associate Box
Ok folks I have finally gotten around to makeing the Associate Box. You can put it on your user page using the command. Below is what the box looks like. Tinni  (Talk)  14:37, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Translation Guidelines

 * Anyone doing any form of translation. Looking up on Google Translate or similar translation tools, is not translating. You are not doing the site any favors by doing amateur translation. Please refrain from using such tools.


 * This is not a conversation page. It is a simple question and answer page for translation. All conversations should be held on a particular user talk page or the talk page of this page.


 * Users should simply place their request and wait for it to be answered. To keep it simple, if the user posting the request has no real understanding of translation, the point is not for you to learn how to translate here. Usage of the page should extend no more then to asking for a translation to be done. Please refrain from badgering the translators for understanding on why a translation is translated a certain way. If you knew anything about translation you wouldn't be asking someone else to do it, therefore it makes no sense to argue with them.


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 * Admin have the final say on the translation being placed into a article.

Reversal Counter Force
I believe a mistake has been made with the Onmitsukidō division that we currently refer to as the as, according to an entry made in Unmasked, the kanji should instead be: "裏廷隊". Blackstar1 (talk) 22:16, September 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Souls book corroborates 裏廷隊 as correct kanji, p.98. In this context hidden or rear seems more appropriate for 裏. Suggest "Hidden Court Corps" or "Rear Court Corps" as new translation.Vraieesprit (talk) 22:38, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the translation, though, given that this will affect multiple pages, I'll wait on further confirmation on which version is to be used before making any alterations. Blackstar1 (talk) 22:57, September 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Good catch, Vraiee. Yeah, 裏 is a very tough Kanji to translate, as it can mean "counter/reverse", "behind", and/or "within". For an attempt at insight into which meaning was most intended, I translated the description of it on the page posted:


 * "Urgent messengers and the like in times of crisis, [they] bear responsibility for the transmission wire of intra-court information."


 * Thus, as unlikely as it might seem, I'd suggest translation Riteitai as "inner court troop", since they cover intelligence from "within the court" (廷内 teinai). Adam Restling (talk) 21:52, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Butō
It appears that the kanji "舞" in both Butō and Butō: Renjin has instead been exchanged for "無" between the original publication and later releases (i.e. Volume 46, Unmasked), meaning the techniques should read: Blackstar1 (talk) 22:16, September 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Here's the original 舞踏 for reference. As both are in print can we judge one over the other or should page have both with subsequent translations?
 * 無踏 = "Empty Step/Pathway" or "Step/Pathway of Nothingness".Vraieesprit (talk) 22:45, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again Vraieesprit. The version from Unmasked also appears within the volume release, v.46 p.187-188, so I would say that the latter were the intended versions, though a simple trivia note in the respective articles should suffice to resolve any confusion. Blackstar1 (talk) 22:57, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

Yamamoto Question 2
We are in need of translation for the technique (Zanka no Tachi, East: Kyokujutsujin) and the technique (Zanka no Tachi, West: Zanjutsu Gokui ("Prison Uniform of the Remainig Sun"). We still need that raw kanji for this to be properly translated.--
 * Here's the kanji and rōmaji, as well as a link to the raw. Blackstar1 (talk) 16:27, September 14, 2012 (UTC)




 * Well, what say you, Adam? --Reikson (talk) 17:15, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, what say you, Adam? --Reikson (talk) 17:15, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, what say you, Adam? --Reikson (talk) 17:15, September 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wouldn'tcha know it? I keep checking day after day, and there's no raw, and finally there is, and I'm the last one to the party! XD


 * For the first technique ("Higashi"), it looks good, though I'd translate 刃 as simply "edge", since this seems to be closer to "point" (where its flames lie), and 刃 itself is more often "blade, edge (of a sword)" than sword (刀 or 剣) itself.


 * For the second ("Nishi"), same thing. I just prefer to translate 衣 as "garb" rather than "uniform" because a) this is a more lit. translation, and b) its single syllable better matches the single mora of i. Also, given Yamamoto's great flames motif, it may be worth noting, in some kind of "Notes" or "Trivia" section (atr least), that goku (獄) "prison, jail" in the name may be a reference to the jail, Hell--this is, as most of you know from the recent film, Jigoku ("prison in/of earth") in Japanese; and similar synecdoche seems to occur, for example, in techniques from the Street Fighter series, or the word gokusotsu, more lit. "prison soldier(s)" (= guard[s]), but also used of "hell's tormenting devil(s)".


 * Besides, Gokui looks much more like armor than restraints, don't it? :) Adam Restling (talk) 08:23, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yamamoto Question 3
Chapter 508 has "Zanka no Tachi: South... Kaka Juumanokushi Daisoujin" and there also seems to be a short incantation before the technique itself, but... anyone got kanji? --Reikson (talk) 17:10, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * The kanji for "Juumanokushi Daisoujin" seems self-explanatory, given the translation notes in the external link, but... --Reikson (talk) 17:23, September 19, 2012 (UTC)

Here's the kanji and rōmaji, as well as a link to the raw. Blackstar1 (talk) 16:34, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Star; at last, Mangahead has out the raw.


 * Unfortunately, whenever I try to click on that single page (16) that holds the Kanji to the above, it goes to a "This popular image image is available at ~" screw-you thumbnail :(--even from their own page--so I appreciate the Kanji you posted above even more.


 * My translation, if those Kanji are correct (as I said, the page of the raw won't let me see it except as a tiny thumbnail) is "great buried ranks of the ten trillion dead of flames" or, for a less lit. flavor, change "ten trillion" to "countless, myriad"; because, again, it seems worth noting that juumanoku "ten trillion" is also found in the term Juumanokudo "eternity, paradise", but more lit. "ten trillion/myriad earth/land/soil"--perhaps a figurative reference to all time being a metaphoric "land of the countless". Adam Restling (talk) 18:32, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry to butt in, Adam, but can I raise a couple of queries about the translation with you? Firstly, the word 'flame' doesn't actually appear in the technique name. I don't know whether you're working on the assumption that kaka is an orthographic play on hono'o, because of how the characters are stacked up, but the reading is definitely kaka so I don't think we can assume it's meant to be en/hono'o. There's also the problem of jin - it's not really an 'army' so much as a military encampment. And since it was raised with Sasakibe's technique, I have to mention for consideration the fact that daisou exists as a word in its own right, meaning "Imperial Funeral" or "Imperial Burial." (State Funeral?) Given the context of Yama vs the Quincy's "heika", I'm not sure if my noting that is overthinking the evidence but I thought it ought to be raised? I also don't think the number has anything to do with juumanokudo, but I do like myriad or countless, even though it bugs me that Kubo threw in three numerical kanji. What do you think? He's given us another stinker to work out IMO ><


 * Oh yes. I've the raw in front of me too and the kanji are odd but correct ;)Vraieesprit (talk) 20:29, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I use "flame" just because we have the Kanji for "fire, flame" x 2; whether just having ka|hi, ho; en|honoo, homura; whatever, they all kind of mean "fire(s)", or "flame(s)", or "blaze(s)", or whatever, and it's only rarely in degree that they differ (if at all). I liked how "flame" sounded is all; it's not really wrong.


 * Jin is used in my Japanese dictionary to = "(battle) array, ranks (of an army)", as well as your "(battle) encampment"; and since they're a marching legion of corpses, I chose "ranks". The use of daisou (which I didn't find as a common word) for imperial funerals needn't have any bearing on its base meaning "great burial/buried"; I used the same philosophy when I rendered Hoozuki[maru] as "wraith lantern", even though that's merely the more lit. meaning of the term, which is used of the "ground cherry" or Chinese lantern plant.


 * I cited Juumanokudo because it was the only other "common" term to use this exotic huge-number; it was more a bit of trivia. Adam Restling (talk) 21:36, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your response :) Re: the fire kanji - I do see your point, but then if you write 木木木 - even in Classical Japanese, which is crack about kanji at the best of times - it doesn't mean "森". If you're happy with bending the meaning then I know this is your final call, but I don't think 火火 is the same as 炎 and I think Kubo would've written 炎 or given the reading for it if that's what he had meant. He didn't, on both counts, so to me this is a deviation from the characters. I honestly think it should be fire, not flame - even if it doesn't sound so poetic.
 * Ah, ranks. Hrm. I dunno if you can see this, but This is a jin. I don't know if that can be translated as 'ranks'.　And daishou, from a Japanese-Japanese online dictionary: If the link doesn't work:

：：：：：たい‐そう【大葬】 天皇・太皇太后・皇太后・皇后の葬儀.
 * This is the only meaning it gives, so I guess it depends whether you want to follow the Houzukimaru model. As I said, it's your final call, I just wanted to make sure all the info was out there ;). Vraieesprit (talk) 22:11, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

But... "fire" and "flame" are the same thing :). I don't get the objection to just use the one that I thought sounded better. This isn't the same thing as hyrax vs. coney vs. bunny vs. hare vs. rabbit or something, where each term refers to a different kind, or breed, or other subtle differences.

For jin, see here. Indeed, as I said, "camp, encampment" is a possible meaning... but these burned zombies aren't just camping out in their battle tents on page 16; they're marching ranks of the undead. Even the picture you linked to shows your "jin" doing a sortie, not camping. I don't understand your objection to my translation.

Daisou is a "great (dai) burial (sou)". Of course it would be possible in usage to refer to the burial of emperors etc.--these people are the "great" in their country's eyes. We could put in a note in the trivia about how this is most often applied to such burials (as I suggested for the possibility goku in Gokui may be shorthand for Jigoku), but erring on the side of using a more lit. isn't wrong, I don't think, and is more often to be preferred (unless dealing with certain special phrases, such as how gaki is used for "brat", but really refers to a preta). It's prob. the same way the French might regard the word parfait first in its original meaning "perfect, complete", but then also realize its extended usage for the dessert.

We could change the trans. to begin "great burial ranks ~" to be safer, but other that, I don't really see the issue. Adam Restling (talk) 23:19, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I realize I forgot to answer about the words that lead to Yamamoto's naming of the technique. I don't think they're an actual incantation for it, but a grave bit of poesy Yamamoto uses for effect--but who knows?


 * Either way, if anyone cares, the words are:


 * 尸共 我が炎に散った亡者の灰よ 手を貸せ
 * Shikabanedomo wa ga honoo ni chitta mouja no hai yo te wo kase
 * Corpses… ashes of the dead scattered by my flames… lend your hands.


 * 暫し 戦の愉悦をくれてやる
 * Shibashi ikusa no yuetsu wo kurete yaru
 * For just a while I give you the joy of battle.

Adam Restling (talk) 00:28, September 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, I might be nuts, but fire, as in 火 is one of the elements linked with the south 南, the firebird Suzaku　朱雀 and the concept of rebirth and resurrection from the ashes. Flame, on the other hand, is just, well, flame, and one component of many that comprises fire. Your final call, but I know you appreciate cultural references as well as straight linguistic ones!Vraieesprit (talk) 07:45, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yamamoto Question 4
Thankfully, MangaPanda's version of chapter 509 means we can at least confirm part of the kanji used in "Zanka no Tachi, North: Tenchi Kaijin", now we're just lacking confirmation on those and the accompanying kana used for North. Blackstar1 (talk) 14:43, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

LOL, I had literally just typed that out and you beat me to it! I just noticed Yamamoto's page already has the kanji 北 "kita" for north. Given the other three, it seems a logical assumption to have made. Tenchi is the whole world (literally "heaven and earth". Kaijin is normally written 灰燼 (ash and embers) but Kubo's writing "jin" with the character that means exhaust, run out, empty 尽. Reduce the whole world to ash seems an adequate translation, if Adam is agreeable - though "Reduce Heaven and Earth to ash" is more dramatic.Vraieesprit (talk) 14:49, September 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Not to be contrarian for its own sake only--I swear XD--but I would translate it pretty close to your rendering, only "heaven and earth end in ashes". This nicely preserves the uncertain transitivity of jin, which can mean "consume, use up, end (something)", OR "be consumed, used up, end (itself)"; it should prob. be noted as fun trivia though, like Vraiee said, that kaijin ("ash[es]" + "expend/end") is clearly meant to echo kaijin (to nase) ("[transform to] ashen embers") in Ryuujinjakka's release call. If we wanted, we could even note that tenchi, "heaven (and) earth", is also a merism for "everything" (as Vraiee again noted, a likely call back to "the whole of all things" [banshou issai] in the same release call).


 * The Kanji look correct as given (with the addition of that for kita in Vraiee's second post, of course). And let me just say one thing: bless Manga Panda for their swift, hard work on getting us the chapter, but they *literally* don't know what "literally" means XD. In 509's example there's nothing about "burned" explicitly in the Kanji given for kaijin, just as there was nothing stating "flame" as the explicit agency of the deads' demise in Kaka Juumanokushi Daisoujin. Again, all credit to Manga Panda and their painstaking fellows, but I literally wouldn't trust their trans. to be literal :). Adam Restling (talk) 20:45, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

：：End in is as good as reduce to me. They both give the same kind of sense :) I was trying to think of something more earthshatteringly dramatic which would fit as a translation, but failed, so ;)Vraieesprit (talk) 21:46, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Shishinrō
In translating the Bleach GC terms, I came across Shishinrō. Turns out it's 四深牢, possibly 'Four-deep jail'. Yet there's only one mention of Shishinrō on this wikia, with no kanji or anything. Turns out, you refer to it as Penitence Cell, Repentance Cell (Viz terms), and Shrine of Penitence. I'm guessing that's not ideal, (certainly, switching between four names isn't) so thought I'd mention it here. The Shishinrō kanji can be seen on chapter 94 page 5. Bluesun1 (talk) 14:03, August 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Those Kanji do indeed mean "four deep prison(s)". As I think I posted earlier, there are oodles of older BLEACH terms that yet go wanting for Kanji, or accurate translations, based on various factors, including the fact that their age produces the illusion that they're settled business, and it's rarer someone looks back; early, error-riddled translations that haven't been contested, etc.


 * Keep up the good work at combing through for missed errors etc. :) Adam Restling (talk) 08:58, September 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm working on a relevant article and need a little clarification. What differentiates the Senzaikyū and Shishinrō? Looking at an older translation scan of the page Bluesun gave, it only mentions the former, and I don't see anything that corresponds to the latter. I know translations were bad back then, so it does pose a problem.  Mohrpheus   (Talk)  05:08, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Fullbring Terms
There are a few terms on the Fullbringer page that have not been assigned kanji or the like. The first being the term Fullbringer itself, which I believe is used sparsely towards the end of the arc. Likewise, there is also the term we have listed as "clad-type," which was used to describe Ichigo's Fullbring. Could you procure this information? I'm not sure where to find the RAWs, since the chapters are older. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  23:58, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * 装衣（クラッド）型（タイプ）の完現術（フルブリング）, from chapter 445, page 3. Bluesun1 (talk) 07:13, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I added the kanji to the Fullbringer page for Clad-Type. All that's needed now is the literal translation of those kana and the same for Fullbringer. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  04:48, September 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks to everyone for their work above :).


 * The Kanji for "Clad-type" (クラッドタイプ Kuraddotaipu), 装衣型, mean "raiment-type" ("array, guise" + "clothes, garb, dress").


 * The Kanji for "Fullbringer(s)" are 完現術者 （フルブリンガー） Furuburingā, which just adds the noun-suffix 者 "-er, -ling" to the original Kanji for "full manifestation art", so we could translate it "full manifestation artist(s)", I guess. Adam Restling (talk) 19:58, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Quincy Terms (Chapter 508)
Juha Bach unveils the "Kirchenlied" (can't make it out; it might be called that), which apparently gives way to Sankt Zwinger (and may be more like "Kirchenlied Sankt Zwinger" as a full name)... anyone got kanji or translations? Anyone?
 * Ugh. Guess we'll have to wait 'til the raws come out... --Reikson (talk) 17:17, September 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * 聖唱 聖域礼賛 (キルヒェンリート・ザンクト・ツウイガー) — ЖенёqSig.png 15:53, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * From checking, it seems Zwinger is possibly 'ツヴィンガー' Tsuvingā or closer, rather than ツウイガー Tsūingā. Bluesun1 (talk) 16:26, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

From the raw, I believe this is what the katakana and rōmaji should instead be. Blackstar1 (talk) 17:01, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks again Reikson and Blackstar1.


 * Kirchenlied: Sankt Zwinger (with katakana spelling Kiruhienrīto: Zankuto Tsuvingā, as Star gives above) is meant as German for "hymn: sacred cage; the Kanji 聖唱: 聖域礼賛 mean "holy chant: sanctuary veneration". A little weird to me, as I'd've expected ~hyen~ (ヒェン)--with small e (ェ)--instead of ~hien~ to better represent the German "soft" ch sound here. Hmm... I wonder if it'll be corrected in the volume release?


 * Kirchenlied "hymn" is more lit. "church (Kirche) song (Lied)". Sankt doesn't appear as a real German word in my dictionary; closest I found was its use for "Saint ~ (male)" in Swedish. Zwinger "cage" seems to be related to zwingen "force, impel" (just interesting to me XD). Adam Restling (talk) 19:35, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * In terms of the German, Sankt is a real German word for saint. Zwinger on the other hand, I feel the proper English translation to use would be compound. I have never seen it translated as cage though that is close to its meaning, while we currently have it as ward, which I feel compound fits better with its original german meaning.--


 * Ooh, "ward". That is a good word, thanks :) ! It has the connotation of "region of (perhaps forced) custody" and "to force (away)". In that case, I would use "ward" instead of "cage" in my trans. above.


 * Is Sankt used? I couldn't find it. In German, St. Peter, for example, seemed to be referred to by the normal German word for "(male) saint", Heiliger. Adam Restling (talk) 20:31, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Is the online raw working for you yet Adam, as there is a possibility that I'm mistaken and ~hyen~ (ヒェン) is in fact used, given that I always find making the distinction between "ェ" and "エ" difficult when the katakana are relatively small. Blackstar1 (talk) 20:12, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's the odd thing: small i (ィ) in Tsuvingā is more plainly small, but the e in Kiruhien doesn't seem small at all compared to the surrounding kana. So I believe you are right, and that Kubo's use, or JUMP's printing, is wrong, or, at least, different than what he's used (more correctly) before in, say, Quincy Zei che n. Adam Restling (talk) 20:31, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I had the same thought when I was posting the kana initially, but I'm glad I opted for the correct choice. Anyway, could you please also translate the following line: "滅却師の攻防一体の極大防御呪法だ"? While I'm interested in the entirety, I particularly want your interpretation of juhō (呪法), as we currently refer to this technique as a "spell" but I'm wondering if there's a more appropriate term (e.g. ritual, magic). Blackstar1 (talk) 21:58, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * 滅却師の攻防一体の極大防御呪法だ!! seems to translate to something like:


 * "This is the single greatest protective magic of Quincy offense and defense!!"


 * The most troublesome term in this is, as you said, juhou (呪法). While the term itself has two chief (and somewhat inimical) translations, a) "esoteric Buddhist ritual laden with incantations", and b) "(black) magic", the element 呪 is, as you probably know, most often translated "curse, hex", and so generally refers to malefic or, at least, deceptive/deluding magic. Even though the Quincy, esp. in the Vandenreich, are rife with Christianic motifs, they remain villainous.


 * I guess I would stick with a more general "magic" or "sorcery" translation, though, just to be safe. Adam Restling (talk) 19:43, September 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks again Adam, much appreciated as always. Blackstar1 (talk) 20:28, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Muken
I was looking for a page for this but didn't find it. Translation and kanji for Aizen's cell,
 * "Muken" 無間 ("Voided Space")
 * (scan ref here). It's also probably a reference to 無間地獄, the Avici, or Buddhist Hell of Eternal Suffering, but I guess that bit would be trivia? Vraieesprit (talk) 22:11, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Bleach novel: Spirits Are Always With You
Here are full Japanese raw scans for the books:--B14 (talk) 15:44, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/iICc9gh995ysQuXGcpUmG0yUajyHEolGlTMsxastkz6hAEXy481xNA
 * http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/fnEl%2B9Qyj7umBRnesQRA2qinXqpK%2BCnU

Colorful Bleach OVA DVD
Since the cover is on here, what does it translate to?

Tman7776 (talk) 02:05, June 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks like the title of this particular Color BLEACH is "Operation Thirteen Court Guard Floats" (護廷十三屋台大作戦 Gotei Juusanyatai Daisakusen), the first part of course punning on "Thirteen Court Guard Troops" (護廷十三隊 Gotei Juusantai). A yatai (屋台) is a small stand or float used for festivals; sakusen (作戦), frequently prefixed (as here) with dai- (大) "great/big", is usually used for "(military) operation, strategy" (e.g. "Operation Overlord" would probably be Overlord Daisakusen)--its more lit. meaning is "do/produce war/fight". Adam Restling (talk) 11:54, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

Volume 56 Sketches
While the majority of information included is irrelevant, the notes around this image of Hidetomo Kajōmaru supposedly reveal his family's business, so can anyone confirm this and what the business actually is? According to this post, the notes read: "十三番隊第六席 可城丸 実家の稼業は彫り師" Blackstar1 (talk) 16:39, September 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * If that rendering of the handwritten Kanji is correct, the line seems to say:


 * "Sixth seat of Troop 13  Kajoumaru   home(town) profession is"


 * and then the word 彫り師 horishi "carver, engraver", which is also used to mean "sculptor" *or* "tattoo artist", so I'm not sure which intention is most apt. Adam Restling (talk) 20:18, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fortunately that's a really clear scan so the kanji aren't as hard to make out as some of those scenes! The transliteration is correct.jikka 実家 means family home or just family (as opposed to　故郷, which is hometown), so used in this context, the phrase 実家の稼業 (Jikka no kagyou) means "family's occupation". I would suggest engraver or sculptor given the Edo setting.Vraieesprit (talk) 15:23, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Adam and Vraieesprit, though I doubt I can actually include the information until the occupation has been narrowed down further, which seems like it will require more information. Despite the Edo setting, Soul Society includes many things that are atypical of that era, such as Gin Tonbo — a store specializing in eye-wear. Blackstar1 (talk) 17:01, September 26, 2012 (UTC)