Forum:Pure Blood Shinigami

If Isshin was a full on shinigami and so was Masaki then he would be a pure blooded shinigami but if it's half then he isn't actually a pure blood.--SalmanH 19:24, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


 * True. Grand Fisher in Arrancar form said that he was a "true" blood in the English anime, so I dont know where they got the idea that he was a pure blood soul reaper.--Kylecharmed 19:28, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Likely they just meant that, because he was bred from a Shinigami, he still had Shinigami blood running through his veins. So, rather than him being a "fake" Shinigami that only got his powers because of a Rukia-inspired fluke, he kept his powers because of his natural predisposition towards becoming a Shinigami. ShadowDragoonFTW 05:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Ichigo is actually 1/3 human, 1/3 Soul Reaper and 1/3 Hollow. However, many believe that Masaki was a Soul Reaper as well and lost her powers, Isshin wentwith her out of love, this would make Ichigo 2/3 Soul Reaper and 1/3 Hollow. But Ichigo is natural soul reaper because of his father.Inugo Kurosaki

Many believe who believes that with no facts, especially since the facts tell us otherwise. She couldnt see spirits and there is nothing to suggest she was anything but human. Also you cant be part human and part good spirit and bad spirit that makes no sense. The fact is shadowdragonftw was right grand fisher states that if ichigo's father is a shinigami then he is the real thing and thats why he could defeat him. Confirming that his power is true shinigami rather then the result of the circumstances that gave him powers in the first place. We have taken this to literal without asking an important question how could an arrancar especially a incomplete one know anything so detailed about shinigami or their reproductive process to determine blood lineage. Also to consider from what we seen the arrancar only know the bare basic facts that is common among shinigami. Ichigo's father had no powers for the past 20 yrs so either he is human which would require an explanation, or he is a average soul inside a gigai. Either way a gigai functions as a human body would except its artificial by a true bodies standards and his no soul naturally. So if he is in a gigai he technically could have children that are human but spiritually aware. Ichigo acknowledges that he is a shinigami and then when learning about his hollow powers he states that he is a vizard. So he acknowledges being a human (inside his body) and fairly recent a vizard (outside his body) only being called shinigami by those not possessing the knowledge of his hollow like powers. Even Ulquiorra is unsure of what he is having had no contact or knowledge of vizards, as he states multiple times that ichigo is a human or shinigami who imitates a hollow. Anything else would be fan based wishing of what they assume because of a transformation that has no confirmed name nor category as of yet.Salubri 19:10, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

This is just speculation, but Grand Fisher had been evading Shinigami for 54 years. Surely he would've picked up some knowledge on how they function. Also, who's to say that someone in Hueco Mundo hadn't told informed him. I mean, three Shinigami were there. There's a number of ways that the word could've spread around. I'm not saying it's a likely story that the details of Shinigami breeding habits were passed around Hueco Mundo as gossip, but it's a possible one. I mean, don't you think Aizen would want as many of his followers as informed about their enemy as they possibly could be? Ultimt evil 02:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

There are various instances the espada and arrancar alike don't know details when it comes to shinigami. aizen, gin or tosen haven't shown any inclination as far as we know to tell any arrancar especially a lowely one like grand fisher, especially something that wouldnt remotely be important. Evading isn't the same as understanding their daily lives. Aizen hasn't informed anyone of anything as far as we know so far the espada seem in the dark about information regarding shinigami. Prime example Zommari doesn't know that shinigami dont truly kill hollows. Ulquiorra shows the most lack of knowledge he doesn't even seem to understand humans. Now he does have information about what level of danger a target is. Starrk is unaware initially of the power level or capabilities of shunsui and Ukitake even while fighting him. Besides the most general information of what level of danger they pose the arrancar seem to possess no real information on shinigami. None of the espada to face a captain seem to know anything about the captain their facing or the Gotei 13 in general, besides they are the military arm of Soul Society. Like i stated previously it is far more likely grand fisher was referring to ichigo's threat level then the actual mechanics of his birth status.Salubri 03:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)