Forum:Rangiku Matsumoto's Status

I would like to take the time and the opportunity to share my concerns regarding to the status of Rangiku Matsumoto. Someone had edited her page, soon after Gin supposedly stabbed her and left her to ultimately die on chapter 412 http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/82151810/15 | http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/82151810/19, and written her off as “Deceased”. On chapter 414 on page 3 http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/41423749/3 Gin returned back to Aizen after supposedly killing her and said “I have returned, Captain Aizen”. Aizen replied “Returned, eh?” and then said “What happened to the girl?” Gin replied “I killed her”. On page 6 http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/41423749/6 Aizen was enlighten and said “Indeed, her reiatsu has disappeared” It goes on and on.

When I go to the history on her page it mentions “(As per Harribel, she was declared dead by a character in the story.)” IMO this is not a justified reason to write her off as “Deceased”. There is not an exclusively amount of evidence to back this theory up... especially from a character who is known to lie and soon after betrayed Aizen. I firmly believe that the status should be regenerated and change from deceased to Incapacitated until we figured out what truly happen with Rangiku Matsumoto in the later story that hasn't been disclosed to the public yet.

If anyone can prove other wise I am very eager to listen and learn from your side of the story.

Gin says she is dead, that is the only proof we need. Until otherwise stated, she will be listed as deceased. This is how things work on this site. Just because you don't think she is dead does not mean that she isn't. You have no proof that she is alive--God (Pray)  15:41, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Gin had said a lot of things that weren't entirely true, Do you still believe him? Gin has a very clever personality. He has a simular personality like Dexter. Do you honestly believe that he's going to reply "I let her live" Gin was hiding his true emotional feelings to Aizen. Aizen himself was surprised and actually quoted Gin "I imagined that you carried a bit more emotions torward that one".

Writing her off as deceased is only based on an opinion and not fact. Unless if this site has personal connections with Kubo himself this is only based on an opinion.

Firstly, sign your posts. Second, the evidence is on my side. Just because Gin lies a lot does not mean we can just say everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. The fact of the matter right now is that Kubo had Gin say she is dead. Until such time that we can prove otherwise, her status on this site will remain as deceased--God (Pray)  16:42, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't this similar to how Aizen called Momo dead? its a different type of situation, however it is similar none-the-less, Aizen did not kill Momo for some odd reason. I am just noticing a similarity as it is probably near the end of the Karakura Town arc... Desruprot (talk) 16:45, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I am going to have to Disagree with you(GOD). I believe that Hinamori's Status is stated as Incapacitated, While she has sustained wounds that clearly killed her and Aizen mentioned that she is dead.

When Hinamori's Status is going to be set as Incapacitated even though we know that she is dead, Why would you leave Rangiku as Deceased ?

either Make both character's status as deceased or incapacitated. Or to avoid confusion just make it unknown. Unfortunately I could not find the pages where Aizen mentioned that Hinamori is dead due to the lack of Manga sites. So if you can reference it online that would be great...Bharatram1 16:50, August 12, 2010(UTC)

I do not recall Aizen ever saying that Momo is dead. I am working on Aizen's page right now and so I am re-reading all those chapters. I have not come across Aizen saying this--God (Pray)  16:53, August 12, 2010 (UTC)