Forum:Hiyori Sarugaki

Here, you can hold general discussions about the Vizard Hiyori Sarugaki. Please do not make new topics about her, as they will simply be deleted and merged here. Twocents 23:58, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

All of these topics are open and available for discussion. Twocents 23:58, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Could Hiyori be the first good guy to die?
The discussion has gotten a little long there. If anyone would like to continue it, they may do so here. Twocents 23:58, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Shikai
Has anybody noticed her shikai looks like a combination of renji's shikai and ichigos zanpakto?/Ulquiorra&#39;s trash 00:27, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

I actually thought it looked more like one of those variant Zangetsu's that Ichigo fought with during his bankai training, except with a different hilt of course. BollyW 01:26, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Hiyori's Zanpakutō is most likely a reference to the story of Cleopatra, who was famous for commiting suicide via snake venom, this also explains the heart shaped guard and her "loving" relationship with Shinji and the rest of the vizards.--Lemursrule 03:57, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, lemursrule, ur gonna have to reiterate on that cleopatra story. i have no idea what ur talking about. I think Hiyori's shikai, at least as far as the form goes, is crap. utter, hashed-up-at-last-minute, out-of-creative-ideas type of crap. the only plus i can see here is that it goes with her mask.--Ulquiorra Wannabe128 19:11, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Cleopatra is by far one of the most ever famous queens of all times in ancient Egypt. Her story of love and death is very famous and she ruled Egypt and made it quite powerful at the time. She had a charismatic personality, was a born leader and an ambitious monarch who deserved better than suicide --Lemursrule 19:16, September 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't really agree with it being related to Cleopatra, but that's just my opinion. I think that if it is actually linked to anything, then the name points towards the (Japanese) story of Yamata no Orochi . But I think that (and the Cleo thing) would be reading too much into the zan's name. As for the design - it is fine. Not anything special, but there is nothing wrong with it. I couldn't really imagine her with anything other than a melee weapon. --Yyp 19:51, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Is it just me, or does her shikai look a lot like Zangetsu? --| WhiteArmor | (Talk) |-- 20:58, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

it's about the size and shape(except for the saw like teeth) of Zangetsu but the teeth make it look very diffrent, through on this page and the one after Rose implies that Ichigo's and Hiyori's powers are similer.


 * Rose is saying that Ichigo is a Vizard, just as they are. Yyp  (Talk) 21:30, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Cut in Half
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/377/15/

There, in the top left panel, you see someone's leg. It's clearly not Shinji or Hiyori, since you can see Shinji holding her up on top of the nearby building. Who is it? Twocents 12:17, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I think it is Hiyoris lower half. Gargamel711 13:33, October 9, 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, it is Hiyori. I thought that it was someone else too, at first glance, but that's definitely Hiyori's lower half. She is bear foot and wears loose fitting sandals (maybe flip-flops would be more accurate), just like that. The only other characters we see go bear-foot are Ikkaku & maybe Shunsui, but those are not the normal Shinigami sandals. --Yyp 12:31, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty sure it's Hyori since she was sliced in half. --Ihaveaname 12:32, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, wow. I thought she was just stabbed. (I can be pretty terrible at telling what the action is in manga sometimes.) That's intense. o-o But reading back over it, I can see where I thought that it was someone in the background, and it was actually her legs flying away from her. Wow. ... Wow. Twocents 12:41, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I just wonder how the anime is going to censor this! I doubt that they're going to show a dropping half-a-body. My opinion? That's sick how she was cut in half like that!Animeluvr92 17:39, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

You know, I was thinking the same thing about censorship. Between that and when Wonderwise punches Mashiro in the face, you know the anime will look different.--Ihaveaname 18:09, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Aging
In the Turn Back the Pendulum arc, Hiyori still looks the same as she does in the current story line. But Byakuya looked like he was a mid-teenager. Then my friend pointed out that Gin was a child also, if not the same age, a little bit younger or older. So why is it that Hiyori hasn't aged a bit(or so it seems)? Does it say anywhere that Shinigami's age at different rates, or it could be a side-effect of becoming a Vizard(I doubt).--Mr.Zeke 03:42, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


 * As I have explained to MANY people already, it could be that she's just naturally short. Don't forget that Rukia's noticeably short, and she's full-grown. Arrancar109 03:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

its because she is in a gigai isnt itOne eyed king 04:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I have a hypothesis that spirit power affects aging. Yachiru has a ton and has barely aged at all since before Kenpachi became a soul reaper, and Toshiro I think ages slower than Momo. Plus the old guy Yamamoto has been ancient looking forever. In any case, aging among the soul reapers isn't something we know the full story on. ZeroSD 20:58, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Hiyori is an adult and is just really short. That happens some people are short. Its the bases of why she has not changed much since 110 years ago. Byakuya was a teenager, Gin was younger then him. Its just the way of life sometimes. Also if she acts young so what, alot of grown people do. Especially in bleach there are various instances of it. Shinji acts just as childish as she does at times, when Toshiro's mad he acts childish as well when he only just looks like a kid. Other characters have acted childish too so thats not a significant point to anyones age.Salubri 21:07, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Soul Reapers age oddly, it's a fact of life. She acts, looks, and sounds rather young. Medrike14 03:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Why is she still young even though its been 110 years i mean Gin and Byakuya grew up so why didn't she??? just wondering

It seems that the more spiritual power you have you age more slowly, and besides that Hiyori just seems petite and undeveloped only heh, kinda like Rukia so that would be the reason you see strong people stay the same trough the years (Unohana, Ukitake,Kyoraku,etc)  and Yama-ji maybe is veeeeeeeeeery old dspite having maybe one of the strongest spiritual power (then I imagine Toushiro becoming Commander)

but well, that's my opinion oh and by the way I have a latin keyboard so i dont have that strange snake like button to add my signature, instead I have this little thing :ÇÇÇÇÇÇ

so help me in that please, I dont hink is enough to open a thread just for it

Why are you under the assumption she is young, its quite clear that 110 yrs ago she was grown and the fact is that she is just really short. There is such a thing as dwarfism. Not to mention not everyone has to be tall or look like what one would typically consider an adult. Rukia isn't particularly tall but she is an adult. So it just so happens hiyori is really short and maybe not as developed as what we would normally consider to be typical. Granted Shinigami do age far slower and live far longer then humans do. So its hard to tail the age in some cases. Such as Toshiro though its not question that he is the youngest captain ever he maybe considerably old in terms of humans. The same with Yachiru who obviously is still a child in comparison to other shinigami. Salubri 02:05, 30 May 2009 (UTC)