Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-44061-20130131082817/@comment-957629-20130131124554

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Fullbring or True Substitute, Body or No Body
+	 	+	 	+	"After being influenced by the remaining traces of Ichigo's Fullbring" +	 	+	There is a two small inconsistencies that are inter-related that I have found that I was hoping to discuss. The reasoning the wiki gives for the alteration of his shikai and bankai is that it was effected by trace elements of his Fullbring....which both Ginjou and Rukia clearly said was completely stolen, but that was just the top crust of his power. I heard that there was some info given that it was effected by the Fullbring...but was it from Kubo directly? It wasn't in the manga pages, so unless its something he wrote on the side and not some shonen summarizer, its not canon. +	 	+	Aren't we supposed to assume its the uniform of a 'True' Substitute Shinigami? When he transformed into his new soul reaper form, it was around his human body, his body wasn't sprawled on the ground like normal, so there is no reason to assume it would ever look the same as simple Shinigami powers. Naturally, since Ginjo himself is a substitute soul reaper visible while using his Fullbring/Shikai combo weapon, we can assume Ichigo is fighting with a visible body as well. It makes more sense then Rukia and Ginjou lying about it being completely gone. +	 	+	And here's a little unfortunate inconsistency, not from info, but from Kubo himself. When he gets up to fight Ebern, he uses the badge to jump OUT of his body instead of just transforming. Did I see it wrong? Cause it sure looked like he did, when that clearly creates a inconsistency in how his power works.....should we just go by 'which scene was more important' to Kubo? Also in favor of the 'in body' theory is that fact that Ichigo has Blut Vene. All Quincy powers are a humanoid body-class power, and not applicable to immaterial beings such as soul reapers. A Fullbring is also a human class power, so if he was fighting as an immaterial shinigami, it wouldn't effect his Shikai. So how should it be catagorized godisme?Cronomatt (talk) 12:01, January 31, 2013 (UTC)