Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-27449779-20151222131224/@comment-26269901-20151222152525

Shiba Eden wrote: But didn't rangiku make a mention of him being part of the great noble family and has to keep up with its image or something like that during isshin flashback. if thats the case i think kaien was maybe killed after isshin lost his powers Yes, Rangiku said that even though he is from the branch, he as the head of that branch has to keep up appearances or it will affect the main house as well. From the fact that Shiba family are still doing business with Gotei 13 and Royal Guard, it's possible they lost their status as top nobles, but not as nobles in general. I can't find the exact part where it is said, but I recall seeing that Kaien died about 50 years before current events, while Isshin lost his powers 20 years ago.