Talk:Gotei 13

About Kido Corps :

Officially, they are not a Gotei 13 part, as far as I know, but they're considered like by the Central 46&cie, so please, stop reverting. -- Mili-Cien 19:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I re-up this, because you seem to ignore it. Well, if you want, you can make a full article about Kido Corps. But actually, we're following that, but I'll put an advert about it... M i l i -Ci en   sys

Isshin Kurosaki
I tried including him in the table under an "unspecified" header, but it was removed rather quickly. We already know by his own words that Kurosaki was a captain, a fact made even more obvious by the fact that he carries a captain's haori over his shoulder. Now, I'm not interested in beginning some sort of conflict by pushing him into the table, but as a former captain, he needs to be mentioned somewhere in the article. The Seaweed Ambassador 22:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

There really is no issue over whether or not he is a captain. The issue is captain of what exactly. The page is pretty specific on the information given to put him on there would be fine if there was any mention of what he was captain of, but there isnt therefore he cant be placed in some unknown category, its best to wait and see if its mentioned then he can be placed there, There is not even any mention of his actual history in that regard everyone else mentioned we know what division and for past captains we know what their history related to the Gotei 13 was the same cant be said for isshin at this point. Salubri 23:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * While it is highly belived and hinted that he may have been a Captain,(even I belive it) there is no concrete proof of it. The only thing we know is that he is Captain-level, and has what appears to be a Haori. Shinji did not recognized him so he was a member of the Gotei 13 aftrer shinji left or posible an seated/unseated officer. The mattter of fact, is if there was no picture of him or a Haoiri over his shoulder then no one would even think to assumed that he was a Captain, so until he or someone else says "I am/hewas a Captain" then he does not get mentioned here. WhiteStrike 23:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Sigh, if you look at the bottom of his Haori you see a pattern on it that only occures on Captains Haori thus edvidence that at some point he was a Captain.Not to mention his talk about Captain class zanpukto hw captains have to keep them at a managable size.If he wasn't a captain then there was nopoint of him specificfying that word and could of just used the word shinigami instead.Saimaroimaru 23:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The key element is the haori, which is exclusively used by the division captains. We have already seen how different the outfit of the Kidō Corps Commander is. All of the Onmitsukidō wear a low-profile black uniform, even the high ranking ones, as seen in Soifon's flashbacks. We also know that even as the Commander-in-Chief, Yoruichi avoided using the haori while performing this office, only using the sleeve-less uniform. That only leaves the Royal Guard as the only squad that we have yet to see in uniform, but as you all know, that division is composed of former captains. The Seaweed Ambassador 23:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

So we established hes a captain? Good as for what division, honestly I think he was the Captain of 10th division before Hitsuguya.On the subject of Yoroichi, in the Pendilum flash back she is shown wearing her haori therefore its not a constant case with her.Saimaroimaru 23:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That was during the captain's meeting, she has yet to be seen wearing it while working with the Onmitsukidō, which was my point, they don't sport any kind of haori. The Seaweed Ambassador 00:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

She was shown again waering it when she went to go mess with yung Byakuya and in a flash back when she is seen running with Kisuke before he became captain.Saimaroimaru 00:07, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but she was not working with the Onmitsukidō, she was in Soul Society representing the 2nd division post-captain's meeting not the Onmitsukidō, its noted in my previous comments. The Seaweed Ambassador 00:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

How is she representing 2nd division in the flash back with Kisuke. I think you think I am saying Captains constantly wea their Haori, no I am not just saying the Haori with those marking and the division crestrepresents the rank of Captain.Let just end this convosersation here.Saimaroimaru 00:17, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * We are straying away from the topic, the key element here is that none of the high ranking Onmitsukidō use any kind of haori while in office, not ever her, as a matter of fact she can't wear a haori and perform Shunkō without tearing it apart. The Seaweed Ambassador 00:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I al am just saying that all captains at some point wear the haori. Since it established that Kisshin was a captain at some point theres no point to continue.Saimaroimaru 00:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Anyway, why can't we add a section for captains with unspecified divisions? I can count at least six unknown captains in The Sealed Sword Frenzy, we don't need to add them to the table but at least some mention could be useful as this is supposed to be the most detailed Bleach database. The Seaweed Ambassador 03:03, 12 June 2009 (UTC)