Forum:Yammy Llargo

Yammy's Arrancar Number?
I've been thinking about Yammy for a while now. Is it possible his Arrancar number is 10. When he first introduces himself to Toshiro he doesn't say he's an Espada. In fact, at no time during his entire appearence does he ever state he is the tenth Espada. I also just rewatched episode 146 & Nel states that all Numeros are identifiable by 2 digit numbers(though she did use the number 11 as an example). This would mean that the Espada would have to be numbered 0-9. I'm just wondering what some of u others think? Minato88 20:02, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

I think Yammy once said, "Who says the Espada go/run from 1-10?"

I'm pretty sure it was in the chapter he released his Resurrección. Animeluvr92 21:35, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Yeh I'm fairly sure that he's only an Espada when he releases, but he gets the number 10 because he's weaker then all the others when he's unreleased. Until we get further confirmation though, it's all a bit speculative. BollyW 06:01, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

are you retarded?? When Yammy fights Toshiro Hitsugaya, he says he is the tenth espada. go to http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/230/14/

Instead of just insulting people, perhaps you should spend time reading what you link. "I'm a 10 too, arrancar diez, Yammi". That's Arrancar 10, NOT tenth Espada. (you can sign your posts by putting 4 ~ in a row) BollyW 07:00, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

In Luppi's attack, they said the attack force consisted of four Espada-class beings, Yammy's on the shot of all the Espada ( http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/File:Espada_Group_(Rank_Arrangement).png ), Yammy's at the Espada council which Aizen greets with, "Greetings, my Espada". Yea, he's an Espada. He might possibly have the job only because of his release, but still, he's considered an Espada all the time. ZeroSD 11:47, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

I agree, he's treated as an Espada, because of his release, however he hasn't ever introduced himself as the tenth Espada. That's all I'm saying. BollyW 20:48, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

No he did introduce himself as the tenth espada, to Toshiro Hitsugaya. Someone above reported this correctly, but in a really rude way. Nonetheless, it's true, at least in the anime. (I haven't read that manga chapter.) In the manga, he reveals his number changes. PSH aka Kimera 757 (talk) 01:26, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

It is true. Yammy Rialgo only says he is Arrancar Diez Yammy. Diez meaning ten, he never addressed himself as the tenth Espada. Only Arrancar ten Confirmed in both Manga, and Anime. In the Manga he says he is the only Espada whose rank changes, and he is the zero Espada. He hasn't said he is Espada 0 in the anime, because the anime hasn't reached that point yet. Codyage 03:48, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

I have just watched ep 138 in english & japanese & Yammy introduces himself as Arrancar 10(not the tenth espada), though I haven't checked the Manga. I was just asking if some of u thought his number is 10. Grimmjow is Arrancar # 12, Shawlong is 11, Poww is 32, ect. I posted this forum to see what some of u other bleach fans thought about this. Minato88 05:37, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

He never introduces himself as Espada 10. Or Tenth Espada. The page that was linked to, if you open it, has Yammy saying "I'm a ten too, Arrancar Diez (10)". NOT Espada. In the anime, he says the same thing. BollyW 10:06, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, he pretty much introduces himself as "Arrancar Diez", meaning "Arrancar #10". He actually never referred to himself as the 10th Espada in the Manga or Anime, as it was verbally misinterpreted by everyone. Toshiro immediately points out that being Arrancar #10 makes Yammy an Espada, which Yammy retorts "Whatever loser you killed must have had a big mouth." Yes, he confirms that he's an Espada, but he never actually said that he was the 10th Espada. DragonBlade302 16:59, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Am I the only one who remembers that Grimmjow introduced himself as Arrcanar #6? He never said sixth Espada until he got his rank back. Also what number is Yammy's tattoo? 10. The only reason he is even 0 is because the dude's a damn glutton.--Moe1216 04:05, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

What the Espada were was not revealed until after Grimmjow introduced himself. So it was probably only to avoid confusion before Shawlong told Hitsugaya what the Espada were. BollyW 04:14, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Moe1216 what does Yammys Espada number 0 have to do with the word gluttony? To answer your question no, u aren't the only one here who remembers Grimmjow introducing himself as Arrancar 6. However, he said this before Shawlong mentioned the existence of the Espada. Yammy unreleased has the # 10, released the # changes to 0. Like Yammy, Grimmjow has 2 numbers. They are Espada # 6 & Arrancar # 12. However his tattoo doesn't change. Minato88 04:20, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

He only got that boost in power from eating and sleeping like crazy. That's why I called him a glutton. Most likely, all this is Yammy's ability. His original rank is 10, but unlike the others, he can rise in ranks by storing power from eating and sleeping. Once he releases, his rank will change based on the amount he had absorbed, so he could have even held the 1 rank if he hadn't eaten enough and it will cancel out when it runs out. Plus, none of the Numeros have tattoos. The tattoos only appear on Arrancar 1 to 10, the Espada. Plus, no Espada referred to him/herself using their Numeros number. That would be too confusing.--Moe1216 04:28, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I was reading older chapters, and found this: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/209/04/ Shawlong states clearly that espada have numbers "from one to ten". Allso, he refers that only arrancar 11 and above are numbered by birth order, and allso that only arrancars created by hougyoku are numbered this way. What do you think of this? Akeki 09:35, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

I think I trust Yammi, the 10th arrancar and Cero Espada on the subject of Espada numbers then I trust Shawlong, who is merely the 6th Espada's fraccion. That's not to say that I believe Yammi completely, just that I think his words carry more weight than Shawlong's, who would hardly know the inner workings of the Espada. BollyW 10:59, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Thank u for all of your replies. I guess we'll just have to wait & see if Kubo releases any of the Espadas numeros numbers. Minato88 14:54, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

You know, I didn't want to start a new thread, but some time ago, a thought occur. Is it possible that Aizen didn't tell the other Espada about Yammy's true power? I mean, Ulquiorra might have known, since he stopped Yammy from releasing in their first appearance, but I can't think of another reason of why Aizen would give him a false "10" tattoo over his true "0" tattoo. I mean, it's not like the tattoo was revealed in the Human World either. Arrancar109 05:26, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Here is my opinion. I trust Shawlong more than Yammy, because even Fraccion know how the army works. Second, Ulquiorra himself stated only three Espada were stronger than him and he is no liar. He has never lied but has given the brutal truth which makes his remarks sting all the more. Third, what about the dang gap in ranks!? If the ranks are what Yammy claims, then there is going to be a gap with no clear explanation of what the heck is going on! Where be the 10!? :_(. Fourth, why did Lilymette place so much emphasis on Starrk being the Primera? Unless it was the real top rank, Lilynette really had no reason for it. Last, why was it when Starrk died did Aizen say he was stronger than all of the Espada? Someone please respond to this. IT IS DRIVING ME NUTS.--Moe1216 02:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Dude, you can't take the word of a Fraccion above that of an espada. Yammy would know about his own power. More importantly that tattoo comes from Aizen himself. Aizen gave Yammy that changing tattoo for a reason. The reason why Aizen placed more important on Starrk, Barragan and Harribel is obvious enough. They are stable. Yammy is not. Plus Yammy just seem to be chaotic force of rage, while those other three had tactics and more controller personality types. So while Yammy may well be the most powerful espada in his released state, he clearly trash unreleased while the others are not, he lacks the finesse that Aizen would demand against opponents of the calibur of Kyoraku, Yamamoto etc. In fact, the present of Soifon alone is a good reason to not take Yammy with him to Fake Karakura. Yammy's side makes it difficult for him to manoeuvre and Soifon being extra small and not being averse to playing the mosquito, probably could just sneak behind Yammy and stab him behind the legs twice and bye, bye Yammy! I mean, nothing says Yammy's Heirro is particularly strong. Kenpachi cut of his leg WITH his eyepath on! Trust Kenpachi to find his eyepatach :D So long story short, I believe Yammy when he says he is the strongest but at the same time I can understand why Aizen didn't take him with him and didn't give him anything of importance to do. He's just a brute force, a blunt but very big and heavy hammer. He doesn't think and he doesn't even want to think. Which is why he kept asking Ulquoirra what to do when they first went to Karakura Town. He's all brawns and no brains. If he wins against Kenpachi and Byakuya, it would be because he overpowered them through brute force alone. Tinni 02:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Point taken Tinni, but I don't plan on doubting Shawlong til Yammy is dead and everything is explained. If the ranks are what Yammy says they are, then you can say "I told ya so Moe." It's just that there are too many contradicting things we have read and I can't truly make heads or tails of it. I know it's stupid, but it just bugs me.--Moe1216 02:55, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I just thought it was a real plot twist. I mean, how many of you commented on that Yammy is still alive, but being the 10th Espada he's just garbage. That switch to 0 just really shook things up. I understand why Ulquiorra said there were only three before him, because, well.. there were. Yammy had to sleep, eat, and sleep some more for him to gather his power and Ulquiorra even stated that he still needed more rest and wouldnt of stood a chance against Yoruichi, Urahara etc in his current state. Like Tinni commented, Yammy is just a maniac filled with pure power and rage. Perhaps Aizen had left Yammy to continue to grow, but didnt know he had already reached his full power. Me personally, when he first showed up and transformed I was praying that Zaraki would show up, perhaps reveal his Zanpakuto's name and rock his ass. KamikazeNewf 15:00, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I know it was a plot twist (and I hate to admit, but a good one), but I am with you Kamikaze on Kenpachi. He cut off a leg without any problem. Plus we may get to see hear the name of his zanpakuto. Wouldn't it get stronger by knowing it's name? If that does happen good bye Yammy. Also,because he has all that power now, wouldn't there be some kind of drawback to Yammy's release? That power can't last forever if it takes so long just to build it up, know what I mean? When you deal with large enemies like Yammy, they generally have some kind of weakness that can be exploited, like a time limit, lack of speed, or something like that.--Moe1216 19:38, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Well you saw a small part of his fight with Ichigo, he isn't exactly the speediest around. His reactions are good and his attacks are quick, but his actual body is pretty immobile with all those legs. That would be his main weakness, he won't be able to avoid either Kenpachi or Byakuya's bankai. BollyW 21:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Ulquiorra, Nnoitra, and Grimmjow obviously aren't at full strength when released. Ulquiorra has Segunda Etapa, Nnoitra has six arms, and Grimmjow has Desgarròn. Aaroniero can never be at full strength when released. He ate 33,650 hollow and their are a million times more hollow than just that. The only way he could be at full strength is if he ate every single one, even the other Espada. Zommari and Szayel Aporro, well, Zommari is at full strength when ALL of his eyes are open including on his forehead, and Szayel Aporro needs to get "eaten" over and over again since he is stronger each time he uses Gabriel. Harribel was never seen using Hierro, and Aizen somehow killed her in her released state (everything about an Arrancar is supposed to be stronger when he or she releases his or her zanpakutō. I don't know about Baraggan, and Starrk is possibly at full strength with the wolves. Also, if Lilynette died before Starrk tried to use his Resurreción, nothing will happen. So, I possibly just proved that none of the other Espada aren't at full strength when released.Lazer81095 00:10, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

OK I think you're confusing "being at full strength" and "using more powerful attack". The thing is, their releases, all the ones you mentioned above, allow them to use their most powerful attacks, thus they are at full strength. Their speed is greatest, their defence is greatest and their strength is all greatest, the only thing they gain that they don't automatically use is their abilities. Every single Espada you mention, except Ulquiorra, gets those things you said because of their release, so Nnoitra gains four arms, even if he doesn't immediately use them, when he does he is at full strength, and he's released so therefore he's at full strength when released. Grimmjow is, just cos he didn't use his most powerful attack, that's like saying that Byakuya isn't at full strength whenever he doesn't use his Final scene, white imperial blade attack in bankai, that isn't how it works. Harribel barely fought so naturally you didn't see her hierro, and Aizen we all know, is very strong so it's hardly surprising that he should defeat her effortlessly. You seem to be overthinking it a bit... BollyW 08:55, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Anybody want to guess what Yammy's weakness is? I want to hear your opnions so please don't hesitate.--Moe1216 20:13, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I think he has two. The first his his massive size makes him a slow & easy target. Since his Hierro doesn't seem to be as strong as Nnoitras he is indeed an easy target. The second his his form itself. Being so massive he must be naturally exerting massive amounts of spirit pressure & I speculate he won't be able to maintain his resurrecion for too much longer. Minato88 22:04, October 31, 2009 (UTC)