Talk:Yachiru Kusajishi/Archive 1

Definitely not the youngest
In many articles it is said that she is the youngest of the lieutnants, but that's definitely not true as Kenpachi became a captain 100 years ago, her being his lieutnant from the very beginning, which means she is at least 100 years old. Ulquiorra Schiffer 23:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * She might not be young by normal standards, but it's totally possible that all the other lieutenants are still older than her. LapisScarab 04:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Resolved -Unknown:*It's certainly POSSIBLE that she's the youngest, but it also doesn't seem to be something that was ascertained either (maybe she's the oldet?). We would need to get an idea of who were the captains and their respective vice-captains at the time of Zaraki becoming captain. Also, since she doesn't seem to have aged all too visibly in a century (she looks what, 5-10 years older at most?) she could have been a kid in Rukongai for a significant period of time too. As opposed to other vice-captains who may have died as adults. Tyciol 03:40, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

How Do You Know?
How do you guys know if she even achieved bankai? Well it may just be the normal format for most shinigami, but there still is no certainty. Yachiru very well may be the shinigami with most potential. TillieNess
 * I am sorry but what is your exact complaint here? Her bankai is list as "not yet achieved", which is what it says for any shinigami not of captain level because unless they are captains (or have been captains in the past) the default assumption is that they don't have bankai unless told otherwise (like Ikkaku). Just like the default shikai for most shinigami is "not yet revealed" because the basic assumption is that all shinigami granted entry into the Gotei 13 is capable of shikai. Unless Yachiru shows us a bankai, we'll assume she doesn't have one. Whether she can achieve bankai in the future is a mute point. Nothing says she has bankai now. Tinni 00:21, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Besides Ikkaku, you also have Renji who achieved his as a vice captain. Saying 'not achieved' is very assertive though, I would have said that about Ikkaku for sure and that would've been wrong. Yet 'not revealed' seems to imply that they have one, so I see your point. Finding a different term, maybe 'not displayed'? Presumably if all swords have shikais, all swords also have bankais, it's just that they may not have been discovered by their owners. Tyciol 03:40, November 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * In which case it stays "Not achieved". I'm sick of seeing this argument being tossed around in various talk pages (it was bad enough with the vizards), and we have decided a long time ago that, unless a non-captain-ranked Shinigami has stated they have bankai, or they have shown it, it STAYS as "Not achieved". I seriously do NOT want to see this argument pop up ANYWHERE again, especially since this conversation ended over a month ago and the administrators decided it was final. Arrancar109 03:58, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yachiru's nicknames
I want to do a section that lists all of Yachiru's different nicknames for people, the only problem is I don't think I know them all. Here's a list of the ones I remember right now: Weedefinition 00:56, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Kenpachi - Kenchan/Kenny
 * Ichigo - Ichi
 * Komamura - Koma Koma
 * Makizo Aramaki - Maki Maki

...Well I can give you a few more but I am not sure if it deserves it's own section.
 * Nanao - Nana (Volume sketch from volume... 24 I think... too lazy to look it up)
 * Ukitake - Ukii (Bootleg, see Thirteenth Division Recruitment fair section for details)

The rest are from episode 166
 * Kyoraku - Shun-shun
 * Unohana - Re-chan
 * Izuru - Izurun
 * Yachiru - boobies
 * Yamamoto - Gramps
 * Komamura - doggie
 * Mayuri - Mayurin
 * Byakuya - Bya-Kun

Tinni 01:09, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I can add four more to this list:
 * Orihime-Jiggles
 * Ganju-Monkey
 * Chad-Muscles
 * & the ever hilarious: Uryu-Pencil

Minato88 01:23, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Tinni: "I am not sure if it deserves it's own section" Very well then, I'll put the list in the trivia section. That should be allright right? Weedefinition 07:16, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

No, no, no, that is absolutely not alright! We just cleaned up the trivia sections! I just thought of an idea on how to sort this out. Relationships! Tinni 09:18, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Bite my head off why don't you? How was I supposed to know trivia was such a sore spot for you admin types? Relationships works just fine for me. Weedefinition 11:58, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

For fans, I think the list of Yachiru's nicknames is sort of fun, but I'm really not loving it on the article. I don't know whether it's that such a relatively unimportant thing takes up such a large amount of space or whether it's simply that it's so unimportant and not really worth being on the article period.

Don't get me wrong: I think it was a fine idea just for an individual's own use, Weedefinition, but for the article, I'm really not sold on it being there. Am I the only one? If I am, that's fine. If everyone else thinks it's an extremely valuable addition to the article, then I'm fine with it being there, too. I just wanted a bit more of a feel for the general consensus. Twocents 00:58, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well Weedefinition originally did misinterpret me. When I said that "I am not sure if it deserves it's own section", I didn't mean put it in another section. What I was getting at, and I should have been clearer, was that I am not sure if it should be part of the article at all. Having said that, nicknames are Yachiru's "thing" and a integral part of her relationship with others. Also, there is a method to the madness. While the perception in fandom is that Yachiru calls everybody apart from Kenpachi by some physical feature, this is clearly not true. Her nicknames come in all variety of shapes and forms and probably indicate the degree of her relationship with someone. So I do think there are some benefits to keeping the nicknames. But really I am on the fence on this one. Tinni 01:21, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * I can see that. Beside the large amount of space it wastes for something relatively minor, my other problem with it is that her most prominent nicknames are already listed in her personality section, so it's unnecessarily repetitive. I'm not completely against it, since like I said, I'm not sure precisely what it is that bothers me so much about it, but if we do keep it, I think there needs to be a better argument for it having a separate section apart from personality which already does touch on how it affects her relationships in a general way. As the nickname section currently stands, it really doesn't provide much other than, "hey, here's a relatively long list of something relatively unimportant." I can see an argument for it if it's that each nickname affects her relationships with the respective individuals, but in that case, I think more detail needs to be added and there needs to be specific, citable references that demonstrate how it affects her relationships. Otherwise, it's kind of just a waste of space. Twocents 01:35, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * This is where it gets a little difficult (and somewhat speculative). The fact that she calls Ukitake Ukki is note worthy, as is her relationship with him. In the Bleach Bootleg she talk about the candy besides Ukitake's bedside and how she put the Koi in the pond around her bedroom. The fact that she steals Byakuya's Koi for Ukitake have been subject of two omakes. Based on all this we can say that she probably likes Ukitake and they have a good relationship. On the other hand we have no clue why she called Unohana Re-chan, rather we don't know why Unohana is the only other person apart from Kenpachi to get the -chan suffix or why she is one of only three people to get a suffix at all! All we can say that Unohana is the supervising chairwoman of the Shinigami Women's association and so she and Yachiru probably do know each other fairly well. Lastly, consider this, Yachiru called Orihime jiggles in the bount anime filler episode and I think that nickname was repeated in Bleach: Dark Soul game. But almost all the other nicknames came from either the Manga or the colourful Bleach chapters (which were also done exclusively by Kubo). So, we are mixing canon and non-canon information and that's never a good idea. Tinni 01:55, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * My inclination, then, would be the same with all other speculative information: to not include it at all until we get more conclusive information. Twocents 01:59, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well let's wait to hear from a few other people before doing anything. As I said, I am on the fence on this one so I am happy whatever we decide. Let's leave this alone for a week and see what happens. Tinni 02:08, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I'm fine with that. I think it's always good to get more input. :) Twocents 02:16, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

This is just my opinion, so don't nobody get mad at me. When someone gives others nicknames, whether they are friends or just acquaintances. The nicknames are opinionated on the namers(Yachirus) personality. To better explain myself Yachiru calls people by how she sees them. Ergo, if they are to be included the only place for them is to be is under her personality section. My suggestion is start a new paragraph starting with something like, "Yachiru has a habit of nicknaming people". Then include the nicknames via use of a colon. Example, This is the list of people Yachiru has nicknamed:Ichigo is Ichi, Chad is Muscles, Kenpachi is Kenny, ETC. Thats just my opinion. U guys can decide what u want to do. Minato88 03:36, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Detection Skills
I was wondering if we should say something about Yachiru having a high level of detection skill. This is from Chapter 128, page 16 she comments on how she found Orihime with Makimaki by detecting that similarity of her reiatsu and those of Ichigo and thus deducing she was drifters etc, etc. This is a marked difference to others, who have stood right in front of Orihime and Ishida (while they were dressed as Shinigami) and couldn't tell that they weren't one of them, like the 20th seat of the 9th squad and Makimaki himself (who is the 10th seat of the 11th squad). Makimaki got suspicious because they were in the 11th squad area but not carrying their zanpakutos. I am not too hung-up about it but I figured I would flag it. Tinni  (Talk)  05:55, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I agree Yachiru despite her childish personality keeps proving to be more of a skilled member of the gotei 13 the more she is featured. This is another in a handful of cases where she proves that her position may be deserved. Salubri (Talk)  06:04, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Since no one had any objects to adding a line or two about her detection skill, I have not added the information in her powers and ability section. Properly referenced of course. 05:18, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Beach episode
For images, would it be okay to upload a photo like this? Or should we only post anime images that are canon and not filler? My guess is none of the soul reapers wore swim suits in the manga. Tyciol 22:22, March 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Whether it is canon or filler does not matter, so long as it is from either the anime or manga. Though I don't see the point in having a picture of Yachiru in a bathing suit. It doesn't add anything worthwhile to the article, imo. -- Yyp (Talk) 09:07, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

New Pic...
I propose a change in display picture for Yachiru. Perhaps a still from the Hueco Mundo arc, seeing as how the picture is outdated, cropped, and shows an expression she does not normally present. Any suggestions?TheVanityPrince 01:45, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Eye Color
Should Yachiru's eye color be changed to pink, as shown in the databook picture used for her Zanpakuto? As far as I know, only the anime portrays her with brown eyes. With the whole fiasco with Gin's eye color over, I was wondering if she could be given the same treatment. Mohrpheus 16:39, June 9, 2010 (UTC)