Talk:Rukia Kuchiki

PIcture
Could we add a picture of Rukia disappearing from Ichigo's sight? I think it's an awesome picture and needs to be added to the Fake karakura town section. Benihime101 (talk) 03:38, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  04:00, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Juhaku
Is there reason that we're so sure that Juhaku is a Shikai technique of her Zanpakutou, and not an anime-only Kidou spell? Because 1) we already have precedent for Kidou spells that utilize a Shinigami's Zanpakutou as a medium, 2) We have precedent for as-of-yet unnumbered Kidou spells, 3) Rukia is already known for her expertise in Kidou, and 3) all of Sode no Shirayuki's techniques have "Nth Dance" as a prefix when they are first used on-screen/panel. MarqFJA (talk) 18:15, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

As much as I hate to spam it, this is just another case of Occam's Razor - the simplest solution is often the best one. We know that Rukia's Zanpakuto is an ice type (focused around snow), and we saw her sword stabbed into the ground while she was using the attack. The simplest answer is that it was just an ability of her sword. Also, as far as the "Nth Dance" argument goes, the same could be said of Juhaku, which wasn't given a category or number before being used. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  18:26, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

As Mohrpheus said, this is a case of Occam's Razor. The attack stemmed from her sword and was ice based, just like the abilities of her sword. There was nothing there to imply kidō other than the attack not following the usual naming format for her attacks but this is the anime we are talking about so..--God (Pray)  19:10, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Occam's Razor isn't always correct; the proper definition of the principle even asserts that. And the anime studio doesn't go as far as making up Zanpakutou techniques on their own, IIRC. MarqFJA (talk) 10:16, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

They have done so before, like when Renji used his Bankai against Yammy; the attack he used to stun him didn't exist in the manga. Also, I don't see the difference between a Kidou and Zanpakutou ability being made up; the anime studio has shown that they can take any liberties they want, even going as far as making a one-sided fight in the manga almost even for the sake of more action. The term isn't absolute, but even so, there is less evidence to support that it is a Kidou. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  11:49, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Female Protagonist
hi I was going to tell you that who agrees with me that rukia is the female prontagonist in bleach series. I mean every one knows that

Actually most media considers Orihime the female lead of Bleach--God (Pray)  18:27, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

but Rukia was the first girl to come in the first episode series and bleach is about ichigo and rukia

Please sign your posts. No, bleach is not about Ichigo and Rukia, it is purely about Ichigo.--God (Pray)  18:36, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Actually no. The definition of a protagonist is someone to which the plot of story is centered around and who the audience of the story shares a connection with because a large part of the story revolves around understanding their motivations and how they relate to others. The only protagonists in Bleach is Ichigo. While others have recurring roles in this concept the the entire series revolves around Ichigo, and no other character is remotely given the same amount connection. While Rukia maybe a central character in that she is the catalyst for Ichigo's development into the larger story as well as his primary contact on Shinigami related situations, that is where her importance begins and ends. She is not a protagonist (as the plot has never revolved around her as the hero) and she will not inaccurately be listed as such. Lack of knowledge of what the actual definition of protagonist and general assumption based on opinion doesn't determine what gets placed in the article. --Salubri (Talk)  18:39, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

P&A Section - Reiatsu

 * "When Rukia is focused or under stress, her great spiritual energy is manifested as ice particles flowing and falling in the air. She has at times shown a measure of control of her spiritual energy affecting the surrounding area with cold and even freezing the things she touches."

The article contained the above. Can a reference for any of this be cited (that does not include her shikai being active)? 20:21, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't recall any instance of that ever happening. If it did, it was most certainly in a filler episode. Mohrpheus   (Talk)  16:38, February 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes this most likely took place in the anime only episodes cause I understand the claim being similar to Hitsugaya because they have same element zanpakuto but I have not known Rukia to do this and it would seem that even if possible she isnt powerful enough to cause the affect. The reason this is prescribed to Hitsugaya is because of his inherent captain level power/potential before he even became a captain.--Salubri (Talk)  16:49, February 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think there were some parts in the manga and anime when there would be some ice particles or snow in the air when Rukia was in the general area. You can find it here in the 6th panel.
 * http://www.mangareader.net/94-700-18/bleach/chapter-246.html
 * I'm just taking a guess that the speck on Ichigo's cheek was meant to be snow, that way it implies Rukia about to show up. If it wasn't, then that speck/or panel could be pointless.
 * Waterdrop95 (talk) 05:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * That thing in Ichigo's cheek is most likely just sweat. I don't recall such a thing ever happening either, unless it was during the Zanpakuto arc, but even then, I can't remember a scene in which she did something like that. Lia Schiffer   (Talk)  06:31, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Lia, I don't recall any of this happening either!! Rukia is a strong Soul Reaper indeed but I doubt she has the same abilities as a Captain of Hitsugaya's power, who is supposed to have the strongest Ice element Zanpakuto!! Sode no Shirayuki is no where near this strength at any part of the series!! SunXia (talk) 21:21, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

I think this might be referring to this part in the manga:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v30/c268/18.html

In the first panel, you can see frost and ice beginning to form. Admittedly her shikai is active, but the ice forms before she performs any of her attacks (although she does use Shirafune immediately afterwards.) Btw, I'm new to this website, so I don't really know how everything works. If I did something wrong, let me know. VanillaTwilight4 (talk) 02:15, March 7, 2011 (UTC)