Bleach Wiki talk:Administrators

Bleach Movie 4
I was wondering, since we are likely to see an influx of edits about it, how are we going to deal with the new movie. Would any plot info from it be treated as a spoiler? If so, a new section for it should be made on the spoiler page. And how would we treat it considering the timescale involved here (a year until its release and likely another 9 months until a sub becomes available) - do we not allow plot details to be added until it is released in English, or would we allow details to be posted once it is released in Japan? -- Yyp  (Talk)  12:57, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Removal of Committee Members
Just bringing it to everyones attention. A procedure for how to remove a member of the Committee (including the 1st seat) has been proposed here: direct link. -- Yyp  (Talk)  15:27, January 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * If it is ever to be done, here is the page for it: Bleach Wiki:Committee Procedures. Yyp  (Talk) 12:24, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Ichigo's page
Ok so Ichigo's page has been locked for maintenance and referencing, which as a major page it needs alot of extensive work. The problem is unlike normally this one requires far more then I alone can do. Im working on the powers and abilities section which is turning into a large chore all itself, somewhat equivalent of doing any others character entire article. In any case while im trying to handle that the problem is the rest of the article. It would be much appreciated if we could all work together to make it happen, as a major page he is gonna have alot of appearances in the up and coming anime and manga. The faster the page can be done the sooner it can opened back up otherwise we will have to just update it on are own until such time that we can reopen the page. Salubri (Talk)  02:51, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'll start work on the Appearance, Personality & History sections now. And I'll do the Agent of the Shinigami arc too. Once that's taken care of, I'll see what's left to do and claim some more sections. -- Yyp (Talk) 21:18, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, since I'm going through extensive editing through Amagai's page and plan to do Ran'Tao's page as well, I guess I can take both the Bount and Amagai arcs for Ichigo's page. Arrancar109 (Talk)  21:29, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's a good thing Ichigo has had relatively small role these last few weeks. I've got the appearance, personality & history sections done and broke up the walls of text with some pictures. I'll start the long trudge through the plot section next. -- Yyp (Talk) 19:29, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Concerned
Hey im a little concerned here. Where is WhiteStrike and where is Twocents. Like for admin they haven't been on and there really isn't any explanation as to why and im starting to wonder whats going on. Besides that the committee is looking i dont know spars. Like i know minato was having comp problems and his taking a break till he gets another one, which is fine. but some of the new members are on infrequently at best and therefore alot of the planned stuff doesn't get done. That removal idea is starting to look alot better. But considering these people made a big deal about joining the committee and now it feels like they arent the least bit bothered. No one has to be on everyday but more then once or two out of seven days would be ideal. I know people have stuff they need to do, but if they are that wrapped up then maybe they need to drop this so we can move on to those that are more open. Just some thoughts but we need to start finding people. Personally the fights project hasn't even been started cause nwang is never on now. Salubri (Talk)  19:52, January 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I emailed Twocents a few days ago, just to ask if she was alright and whether or not she thought she'd be back soon, but no response. I guess whatever is keeping her away from here is keeping her from answering emails too. I notice Arrancar109 hasn't made any edits since the 1st Feb. -- Yyp (Talk) 22:33, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well its been a while and Twocents is still nowhere to be found, I checked her other site where she is an admin and she hasn't been there either. So im not sure what we do cause we are literally down to 3 admin total, which is the same as we had when Whitestrike was still active. Now its back to that same number and having two new admin defeats the purpose if one of the admin we had aren't really active on the site any longer and the other new one is AWOl. Im not sure what to do in this situation but we might need to take some action here. Because there are plenty of things not getting done and that doesn't help the site at all.Salubri (Talk)  03:25, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Quick update: still no reply from Twocents, but Minato88 has been in touch via User:Soul reaper magnum to say that "he wont be getting back for a little while longer". -- Yyp (Talk) 19:29, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Looking at the statistics page, it has been just over three months now since Twocents last logged in. I figure at this point we should list her as Periodically inactive on the admin page and add the inactive box to her talk page. Yyp (Talk) 23:14, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Seems like the best option to me. Arrancar109 (Talk)  23:17, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yes good point. Also if you two could go to the admin template and sign your signatures that would be good too. Salubri (Talk)  23:37, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Translation
To make everyone aware. I had a conversation with MarqFJA and he has recently informed with this translation:

Yo. Just wanted to check up on the progress regarding the Hollow/Shinigami hybrid topic.

BTW, I finally managed to acquire raw scans of the two pages that I had brought up in our "Hollow-Shinigami hybrid" discussion on Talk:Kaname Tōsen, and confirmed that the original terms used by Aizen are as follows:


 * Shinigami no Horoo-ka (死神の虚[ホロウ]化) - "Hollowification of Shinigami".
 * Horoo no Shinigami-ka (虚[ホロウ]の死神化) - "Shinigamification of Hollow(es)".

Note: The kanji 化, when used as a suffix, is virtually equivalent in purpose and meaning to English "-ification". As we can see, the term "Shinigamification" is actually an official/canonical term, contrary to original belief.

So in fact Shinigamification apparently is a canonical word in the series. Though obviously never really used. By no means does that mean it deserves a page but it can be used in text of already established pages. Seeing as its rarely used and we really have no information on it at any level. The original conversation was about the use of the term Hollow-Shinigami Hybrid and Shinigami-Hollow Hybrid. Apparently these translations provide a canon use of the the hybrid terms without explicitly stating hybrid (Except in the common translation found on most sites). It also provides that Shinigamification is an actual word. The term Hollow-Shinigami Hybrid for those originally Shinigami and Shinigami-Hollow Hybrid for those originally Hollow. Salubri (Talk)  03:32, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion Policy Additions
I was just looking at the Discussion Policy and realized that we had nothing about the closed discussion boxes in there. How about adding something to the effect of the below. It pretty much reflects how things have been done, but feel free to change it or suggest something different altogether.


 * Do not edit a closed discussion - Admins and Committee members may mark a discussion as closed with the template. If you see the blue "Discussion Closed" box in a topic, then do not continue the discussion or remove the  template. If you wish it to be reopened, contact an admin stating clearly your reasons. It is at the discretion of the admin whether or not they reopen the discussion.

Also, I've moved plenty of random questions & speculation from the article talk pages that have nothing to do with the article. As it is an ongoing problem, I was thinking about adding something like this to the policy:


 * Related to the article only - The article talk pages are only for discussing the contents and upkeep of the article itself. Please place all general comments and queries in the forums and blogs. Any such posts on the article talk pages will be removed.

As I said, feel free to change, fix or tear it apart as you wish. Yyp (Talk) 12:24, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with these additions as well. I also wanted to bring up again the whole thing about those that dont participate at all. Now its one thing to join in on forum and blog discussions but but the level of all that being whats only happening on the site seems to get bigger and bigger. There are plenty of people who either haven't helped with the site at all or who have done very little. This is counter productive as we are not a social networking sight and what we have up donesn't seem strong enough to address this. Also we have to come up with a new way to address profile pic changes as the discussions become too long and clutter talk pages. There also needs to something done more about the crack theories on the site. Speculation should clearly come from information presented in the series. No one has the right to make up the story into an unrealistic concept the only one writing the story should be Kubo. Also to add onto the discussion closed there is too many multiple reopening of the same topic which adds to a continuation of the same talk previously. Sometimes with new users wanting to add their two cents because they were left out of the previous discussion. As these discussions are pointless and get nowhere because the arguments are the same nothing remotely new is being used in the arguing of the point or they have nothing to do with the point of the issue. Prime example, the Vizard talk page. Salubri (Talk)  13:44, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Petition to re-open discussions forum
Tinni has suggested the following:


 * Hey, I was just thinking about closed discussions and how we don't actually have a mechanism by which to re-open it. All we really have is the ability to start new discussions on the same topic. It occurred to me that perhaps we should have some mechanism in place for people at least make a case for why a discussion should be re-opened. So I was wondering what you thought about starting forum thread in the "Improvements" forum where people can place petitions to re-open discussions. Doesn't mean we will re-open, but it does give people a place to lodge their case. Plus since it's the forums, it's out of the way etc, etc. Of course, we might want to take some topics off limits like the old and tired "Vizard" discussion. Or Viz translation vs fan translation discussion and other things like that. So what do you think? Tinni   (Talk)  12:59, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Seems reasonable to me. Yyp (Talk) 11:06, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yea I was thinking about this. A page where people can give their petitions to re-open discussions. They can then be evaluated by the committee and if a majority ruling is given by the committee on the accurate and consistent argument given for the reopening it can move on to the admin and again its the majority rule to determine whether its to be opened. Thats my general thoughts et me know what you think. I would agree with Tinni on the no longer bringing up the Vizard, Viz translation vs. Fan Translation, Tosens race, or character status. Other then these specifics im ok with the idea. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  12:28, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Editor's Choice
Salubri and I recently discussed the "Editor's Choice" in the "Top Content" section of the sidebar. According to Help:Sidebar, we can choose what is displayed there by adding pages to MediaWiki:Most popular articles. If there are less than 7 pages added to it (as is the case now), then in order to fill up the shortfall, it will display the pages with the highest traffic. That of course means that it is the same list as the "Most visited" piece. So, what pages should it link to? I figure we should each make some suggestions of high quality articles that can be added to it such as the Zanpakutō page or well done and maintained character pages that do not appear in the most visited list. Yyp (Talk) 13:51, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article Organization
Recently, I was going through the watercooler sorting out what belonged in the improvements forum. I merged a load of them here. One of the things I came across was about the timing of the featured article vote, and it got me thinking about it. We currently end the vote at midnight on the final day of the month. And then the feature is written and put up whenever it is done. But sometimes it doesn't get done for a couple of days. I think it might be better to end the voting one day sooner, giving us a full day to sort out the feature and hopefully that way, we will be able to have it up early on the first day of the new month. There is currently no set start time for the vote, but I've been opening it around the 21st/22nd of each month, so that would give 8 or 9 days for voting, which is still plenty imo. considering that so much of the votes are done in the last few days. Thoughts?

I was also asked about adding Kira to this months feature vote. I'm leaning towards no as he is borderline at best, but I wouldn't object to him being put up. And it seems we now have a section on the Featured Article vote's talk page for providing pictures to use for the winner: linky. Yyp (Talk) 23:06, May 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Im in agreement lets go with that.<font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  20:31, May 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * I am as well (not that it matters at this point), but I do have a question: Since the voting of the month is closed now, should we notify this rule change for next months' voting for July? Since we just got this rule done now, nobody knows about this yet, so they still might be accustomed to our older ruleset regarding this. For stuff like the Featured Quote and the Featured Picture, it'll be easy enough, since they're open to voting for the entire month anyway. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  16:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * I would think so.--<font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  17:31, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

New Stuff
Ok so while going over the site I noticed a message for the wiki overall and it got me to thinking that we should probably take advantage of the wiki answers. I think it maybe a good addition to the site and that it will hopefully keep users from asking questions on the site and either placing them in the wrong places such as the talk page or placing them in the wrong forum areas. Also We should see if the P&S Committee might wanna take on a new task project. Namely we should start categorizing the the pics into proper copyright and gallery (As i believe that the gallery function is new as well). I know Yyp has been going through deleting needless pics. Though some are bad quality, or duplicates some are yet good copies. While some can't necessarily fit in either a character article or other page these could possibly still be featured. They can also be linked to the their respective pages as a somewhat image gallery for that character or article. Just some thoughts but a project to organize can really help. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  02:33, May 26, 2010 (UTC)