Talk:Ginrei Kuchiki

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Is it really Ginrei?
Okay, the character in the 98th chapter of the manga (32 anime) strongly resembles Ginrei, but there are several diffrences so I don't know if it's okay to merge info of these two characters into one article. First, he wore glasses and Ginrei didn't. Second thing, Ginrei had his nobility visible in his posture and this man's posture is rather a posture of a servant than a noble (for example Yamamoto's posture didn't change during this 100 year period). And finally, he refers Byakuya as "sama" the way servants do in the omake chapter and Ginrei in the TBTP didn't (although Hisana did call him "Bayakuya-Sama" despite being his wife).

These are of course minor things because they could be easily explained, but important as for now becuase it remains unconfirmed. But I strongly hope You're right.

I suggest the following : It would be awesome if somebody who knows japonesse, could chceck the name of the Seiyuu of the character in 32 episode end credits, then we should check Ginrei's seiyuu in the TBTP arc (if it's going to be animated of course). If the seiyuu would be the same it would be obvious. As for now we should separate those two, or at least mark it as unconfirmed. Nekosama

Soooo, since TBTP got animated we can say that the character which thought to be Ginrei is not him. Why? Because they look entiriely diffrent in the anime, and they are voiced by two diffrent people. Too bad ;/ See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI93nrVLEi8&feature=related to get my point Nekosama

Theory about his age and why he wasn't in kyorakus list of the old captains
This is just a theorie, but i want to hear your opininion.

If you look on Ginrei, he looks as old as yamamoto, but he wasn't in kyorakus list of the old captains. So i think, that he might have been a captain even before ukitake and kyoraku become captains and retired after his son, byakuyas father, became head of the kuchiki clan and so the new captain of the sixt. after byakuyas father died, he retook his positions.

Its most likely that just because Ginrei is old doesn't mean he has to be one of the older Captains. Ukitake and Kyoraku where talking about the first group of captains which include themselves with Unohana and Yamamoto being older. So its more likely that Soul Society didn't existence with the Gotei 13 in the form that its currently in before Yamamoto made the Shinigami academy. There was most likely a lesser number of captains with less formalized Captains and squads which increased with the onset of more people born into the real world and thus more spirits in soul society. In any case being that he is Byakuya's grandfather its more likely that he was head of his family and his son and daughter in law died before they could take any position of authority in the house leaving Byakuya the only living heir and he maintained that position. Its also likely he didnt become a captain until later on in his life. (Chojiro looks significantly older then all the other captains or lieutenants and he's only a lieutenant himself).Salubri 03:35, 17 April 2009 (UTC)