Talk:Sōsuke Aizen

Fully Evolved Form: Better image?


Is this a good image that can replace the old black and white image? --Gold3263301 22:34, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

I would say so. And for anyone who doesn't know, yes, this is an official coloration by Tite Kubo. Yes, I think it would work. If you want a second opinion before replacing it, I'm sure others will take note. Arrancar109 (Talk)  22:44, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

I've replaced it already. If anyone disagrees, put it here. Gold3263301 23:12, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sclera color
There's a raw pic on ju-ni.net where Aizen's sclera is dark blue instead of black

Firsly, sing your posts with four tildes ~, second, no take a look at the pic above, that was colored by Kubo and the sclera are black--God (Pray)  02:19, June 26, 2010(UTC)

Look at the raw version and you can see clearly that Aizen's sclera are dark blue. NoahUchiha 02:44, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

His sclera are the same color as the inside of his collar, which seems to be more of a purple to me. It's all just a matter of perception, we'll have to wait for somebody else's opinion. Mohrpheus 02:59, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

RAWs are usually inferior-quality anyway. I'm thinking we should probably wait until Ju-Ni (or Cnet) releases their version of the chapter publicly. Seems weird, yes, but I think it's the only way to be 100% sure on this. Arrancar109 (Talk)  03:01, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Seems to me that the raw picture is simply brighter and the black turns purple because of that effect. For now, I'd say the current picture is fine and the sclera shouldn't be any other colour. I mean, we're all used to the typical black, right? Gold3263301 03:06, June 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sleepyfans scan shows them as purple too. Maybe mangastream coloured it too dark, but I'd like to see Ju-Ni's final scan too for final judgement, though it seems that it may very well be purple. Yyp  (Talk) 11:36, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

What we also need to decide is the color of his iris. In the Mangastream edition it appeared to be a baby blue, almost white (a separation from Vizards and Hollows)--VectorFlowers 16:24, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

No, the iris is clearly grey, even on the Mangastream's version. The iris color remains as grey; the only real issue is the color of his sclera, and we're going to wait for Ju-Ni's version to become public before we're doing that, since it's the best way to be sure. Arrancar109 (Talk)  16:28, June 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ju-Ni show his eyes as purple too. Yyp  (Talk) 16:32, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, they are purple. Thats strange--God (Pray)  16:47, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Although this concerns Aizen's iris rather than his sclera, now that I've seen Ju-ni's version of the image, I feel that I should mention that even though I agree the majority of the iris is grey there are distinct large sections of yellow present in both. These sections can been seen not only in the raw but all the other cleaned versions of the image (including my own attempt). At first I thought this could simply be the result of Kubo trying to add depth and roundness to the iris but looking back he usually achieves this by using a different tone of the same colour (which is the standard method to do so). As we only have one colour image of Aizen in this form, I don't yet know if this was meaningful or intentional but I thought it was at least worth trying to bring attention to it. Blackstar1 23:14, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Cloaking
Should you mention in his Chrysalis form section, about how his reiatsu seems to be "cloaked" against all those without similar power to him? Isshin was surprised when Ichigo said he could feel Aizen's reiatsu, and Isshin stated earlier that since Aizen transformed into that thing, he was unable to get a clear read on his spiritual energy, and perhaps his power can only be felt by those on the same plane as him. This seemed only to apply only to that chrysalis state, as Tatsuki and Keigo could clearly feel Aizen's spiritual energy when his chrysalis form broke.--Dusk-sama (対談) 01:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I said that "his spiritual power is so large, it cannot be detected by captain-level fighters", but that was removed for some reason (probably was speculative to say so). It doesn't really make any sense though, about cloaking his reiatsu. Why would he want to? Gold3263301 03:05, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * probably involuntary. This is speculation, but maybe that form automatically masks reiatsu to keep him from being detected while he is changing inside the chrysalis, something like camouflage or somethin'. just speculation.--Dusk-sama (対談) 22:23, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * and speculation is not allowed on the site.--God (Pray)  22:26, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * maybe, but isn't noteworthy to mention his spiritual pressure and that Isshin could sense it? correct me if I am wrong.--Dusk-sama (対談) 01:03, July 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * You just said it yourself, Isshin couldn't sense his reiatsu. Gold3263301 20:15, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Mentioning that his chrysalis form's spiritual power is undetectable is pretty important, but you have be careful not to explain how, since doing so would be speculation. Also keep in mind that Isshin was just speculating himself when he said that only people on Aizen's level could sense his power. Mohrpheus 02:56, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I will add something in his chrysalis forms section that Isshin states that he cannot sense Aizen's power level and add that he stated the whole only if you are on aizens level bit. Anyone remember what Deicide that was in?--God (Pray)  03:04, July 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * when I said Isshin could sense it that was a typo. and I don't recall what decide it was in but here is the link http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/406/02/ --Dusk-sama (対談) 05:08, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Alright I added it and it is referenced. I made sure to make it say that Isshin said this and that he believes only someone in the same place as Aizen could sense it--God (Pray)  05:10, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Alright! Thanks.--暗闇の門番 - "Gatekeeper of Darkness"'' (言うことを何かを得た - "You got something to say?") 08:28, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Plot Section Which Should Include the Filler Arcs
Aizen is mentioned during the Bount, the Shūsuke Amagai and Zanpakutō filler arcs. I myself saw he is mentioned during the three filler arcs: during the Bount Arc he is mentioned by Urahara and Ichigo (excluding Orihime who just wanted to mentioned the Rescue of Rukia). During the Shūsuke Amagai Arc he is just mentioned (and seen) alongside his partners Gin and Tōsen and during Zanpakutō Arc he is mentioned (and seen) only when his lieutenant's Zanpakutō, Tobiume implies her the person who betrayed her by saying the taunting sentence: "That's why people use and betray you." in Episode 240. I always create those sections and all of you simply erase them. Those should be written, not only the Soul Society, Arrancar, Hueco Mundo and Fake Karakura Town Arcs.--Gran Danku 11:46, July 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just mentioned is not good enough. The character has to actually appear in real time or else it is explained that they did something relevant during that time. And by appear I mean the actual character, rather than a vision/hallucination/imaginary version/etc. Flashbacks to events that occurred during earlier arcs do not constitute new events either. If he appeared and did something during one of those arcs, then fair enough, but if he didn't then it will not be added. And I cannot remember him being in those arcs (other than flashbacks or people saying "could it be Aizen's doing"), so references are an absolute must and they should be posted here first to determine if it is correct & worthwhile. Yyp  (Talk) 20:20, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Profile Pic?
the current one is horrible how about this one? --RexGodwin 15:02, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * You are going to have to explain what is so horrible about the current 1.09MB high quality image that you want to replace it with a 234 KB medium quality, at best, image that is marred by shadows. Tinni   (Talk)  15:12, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

sorry, that was a lil rude. i just mean the face. i mean look at it; it looks so off. besides this one has better animation and is facing the camera moreso. the shadows don't detract too much, and who cares about the size too much? it is a high quality pic.--RexGodwin 15:43, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

There is absolutely nothing high quality about these shots and Option B is just deformed. My vote is against both these pictures. I am not against changing the current pictures, I can see how Aizen's look in the current picture might be a little too "mean". But we can honestly do better. Tinni  (Talk)  16:04, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Option B is terribly distorted and would not even be considered, while the other is not an improvement on the current one, imo. Second, those images break the Bleach Wiki:Image Policy as they do not have and  templates attached to them. Thus they cannot be used as profile images. Please familiarize yourself with the policy (which has recently been updated) before proposing any more pictures. Yyp (Talk) 16:06, July 13, 2010 (UTC)