User talk:Soulreaper1234/Archive 2

Re: Hi there Tinni can you help me with this one?
I am not entirely sure what the riddle here is. That's a interview Kubo did a few years ago where he explained how he developed Bleach. I think it was during his first tour of America. One of the Comic Cons. I am not sure of the year. 2006-7? Anyway, that's all I can think of. Sorry. Tinni  (Talk)  08:37, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

seriously?
can you paste a link!!!!!

Here you go: http://manga.about.com/od/mangaartistinterviews/a/TiteKubo.htm. I don't know if all the questions and answers are from there but nothing of what you posted me comes for anywhere else but Kubo's interviews. Tinni  (Talk)  08:55, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Spoiler Policy violation
Per the Spoiler Policy, spoilers are not allowed anywhere on the site but the spoiler page. I have put a delete notice on your forum post. Consider this your first warning. Tinni  (Talk)  12:25, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

We do not have a place to discuss spoilers if that's what you are looking for. Only a Spoiler page where spoilers are given. In addition, even when the chapter comes out sometime tomorrow, the topic you brought up would not be allowed as it would be classified as a crack theory under our Speculation Policy. We are pretty strict about these things as we are a wiki and the last thing we want to be a part of is the next crack fad to sweep the fandom and certainly there will be a lot of crack theories when chapter 405 is released. Tinni  (Talk)  12:39, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Zanpakuto Overview
Well thanks but in what area are you referring to. Elemental-type zanpakuto are fully represented on the zanpakuto article page. As far as gender that would be mostly pointless as the vast majority in the series are male. The anime presents (Suzemabachi, Minazuki, Tobiume, Part of Zabimaru, Katen Kyokotsu, Haineko, Sode no Shirayuki) and Benhime. As far as the meanings of the translated names it would be no more than speculation at its highest level. Yes I could logically breakdown what they mean to me or in general mythology but none of that accounts for the universe of bleach. It is only an interpretation. An assumption at best of what Kubo was trying to say. We have no proof as to why he used the names and in alot of cases they are spot on to things in reality. But unless he gives a meaning behind it they would be speculation at best and a crack theory at worst.--Salubri (Talk) 13:22, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Opinion
Go to this article if you please and if you could tell me if my opinions are well founded.Creator5000 20:24, June 7, 2010 (UTC) =User blog:Soulreaper1234/Is Vasto Lorde the 10 Espada or just another Hollow Being of higher capabilities?=

Soulreaper1234
Thanks, what I believe doesn't matter and till Kubo states such things these are all specualtion. Just my opinion that made the most sense about the Espada and which of the could have been Vasto Lordes. Plus, for all my facts most are only from my own observation of articles here and the anime. Also I don't get whats so wrong with some specualtion I never said that my theories were right or even well profound.

Side note if the Top 4 Espada were Vasto Lordes, the that means the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and maybe the ten were at least Adjuachs. Cause the 9th Espada states that only he was of the Gillian class.Creator5000 04:51, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Aizen may have used hollow that can fused with shinigami to perform Hollowification
Well, while it may be possible, without a manga page or episode to cite as proof, it is just speculation. We know so little about his research and methods at this point (and likely we never will know much), so it is too dangerous to assume that it was. Yyp (Talk)10:28, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yyp is correct we don't deal in what ifs and maybe's. It is not the job users on the site nor fans to determine the story or anything within Bleach. Kubo does the creation. I for instance could say the sun is green, that maybe my opinion but its still wrong even if im entitled to my opinion. This is the reason we are big on keeping down issues thats aren't even speculation but just fan fiction or crack theories such as the post about the Vasto Lorde you made. There is no remote proof and people have a tendency to make up things or see things where nothing exists and try to place it in articles. Beyond that your point here doesn't conicide with anything we know of the Vizards. In all he was just explaining the hollows he was involved in creating. (The hollows that attacked Renji, Izuru, Momo and Hisagi when they were students; the hollow that killed Kaiens wife and possessed him). We cant make leaps just because we want the information to be comlpete or make sense. Considering the irrelevance of this we will likely never know.--Salubri (Talk)  14:09, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

1.) Metastacia the Hollow killed Miyako Shiba and some members of the 13th Division and then while fighting Kaien Shiba he destroyed his zanpakuto with a touch and then fused with him forcing Rukia to kill Kaien out of mercy. Metastacia was then returned to Hueco Mundo after his death and absorbed by the 9th Espada Aaroniero Arruruerie who Rukia later fought and killed.

2.) The prototype is in reference to whatever material they were using to cause hollowfication. It is never explained beyond that what it was.

The information was determined by the information given in the manga. Trying to determine what took place from information that doesn't have any link to it does not make that information correct. In the first case he specifically created a hollow with certain abilities (which Aizen mentions as being failures, even his arrancar are barely equal to a Shinigami). In the second case we are never told what the prototype was but likely a substance created by science by Aizen. The only one connected would be the second situation and the reason its determined as an infection was that the Vizard didn't start to hollowfy until after they received wounds/injuries. On top of that none of this is explained anywhere in any remote detail by anyone so we can't add anything besides what we know. Thats how we do things here we can't try to make sense of anything with anything more than what we are given. If we don't know how to explain something we still go from the information already established until such a time as we learn otherwise. As far as Aizen's role in hollowfication whats already on that page is where it begins and ends. There is to be no adding of speculation or personal opinion. We go from what Kubo puts down, it is not are job to assume anything. What you seem to not get is that this is not the site for this. If it is not written or shown it doesn't get added. Somethings aren't going to be known, maybe not ever. We can only go from what we read or see nothing more.

Also hollowfication only refers to Shinigami who have gained hollow powers. Whatever Aizen has done to other Hollows that still resulted in them being hollows is nothing more than modification.--Salubri (Talk)  19:44, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think Salubri just answered your question on why I deleted your edit. Besides the speculative point, I think you should know well enough how strict we are about it (BTW, I'm not an admin, I don't know where you got such an impression), but the main reason it was deleted was because it had no place in the article. Hollow alteration and Hollowfication are completely different things, as Salubri already said, they are no way related. That's the main reason I deleted it. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  20:09, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone can ask for an opinion on whether or not its ok to add content they are not really sure of being within the criteria for the sight. This question can be posted on the talk page of the page in question or you can ask a user personally. A committee member or an admin would be your best bet in this regard as they are more familiar with the guidelines and policies. Though you can read those for yourself as well. Fan Fiction and crack theories is without a doubt something not allowed on the site period. Speculation is never allowed in an article except on forums and blogs. Trivia is a hard thing to deal with ask Tinni about that she is good at whats necessary or unnecessary trivia. As for the prototype thing it should be added as it was omitted by mistake. The prototype is obviously what caused the infection that was contracted via the wounds. As far as Metastacia, when Aizen explains that he created a hollow that can destroy zanpakuto's and fuse with a shinigami a picture of metastacia is shown following that Rukia is stunned as she remembers that hollow as she had to kill it after it possessed Kaien. Then she knew it was Aizen was behind it. It doesn't have to specifically say it its expressed without a doubt visually. The point is whats visually given and stated evidence is what we use here. We didn't assume that this was the case its without a doubt from the information given. Metastacia is the only hollow in bleach capable of that. Whether or not Aizen admits to it directly is not the point, as it wasn't his goal what did he care who it killed as long as it did what he desired hence why he mentioned it. The fact that it was connected to Rukia was secondary. Salubri (Talk)  14:47, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Had to do delete some
Had to delete some - the scroll had become too long

I have undone your deletion as it is against the Bleach Wiki:User Page Policy to delete content from the talk pages. If the page is too long for your liking, then there is an archive tool which you may use. Simply add to the top of this page and click on the link to create the page, adding the content you wish to move to the archive. Yyp (Talk) 10:17, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yyp basically explained it.

1.) open up edit this page as if you were writing something here on your talk page.

2.) Add what he stated at the top of the page.

3.) Highlight the conversations below it and cut it out.

4.) The press save page. All that should be on the page is a folder icon with the archive 1 under it.

5.) Click on the archive 1 link and then edit that page and paste the content you just cut onto that page.

6.) Save the page and your done. now your talk page is free and clear and you have link to previous conversations.

Hopefully that helped.Salubri (Talk)  18:39, June 9, 2010 (UTC)