Bleach Wiki:Chat/October 31, 2012

 [01:18]  boy's fother [01:18]  father lol tired [01:19]  Haha yeah, he's lived a thousand years - how many kids could he have by now? xD Kidding [01:19]  Though with that beard what kind of girl could refuse? Lol [01:19]  papa was a rolling stone [01:20]  wherever he laid his zanpaktou/quincy bow was his home [01:20]  lol [01:20]  we shall certainly see [01:20]  well off to bed [01:20]  its late where I am in the extreme.. [01:36]  Hey God~ [01:37]  Hai Kuro [01:38]  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZxGM4pmqw [01:38]  What's up? [01:39]  \o/ Heavy [01:39] <Godismebot> Heavy is credit to team [01:41] <KuroAshi98> Haha of course he is. :P [01:42] <Godismebot> Hi Olandress, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [01:42] <Godismebot> Olandress, you need ten article edits to be here [01:43] <Godismebot> Olandress, please leave until you have ten article edits [01:43] <KuroAshi98> Otherwise a chat moderator will be forced to remove you. [01:43] <Godismebot> Kuro, would you like to do the honors? [01:44] <KuroAshi98> Well if he's not going to respond... [01:46] <Godismebot> So apparently Masaki was Ryuken's sister [01:46] <Godismebot> and she was one of the most powerful Quincy [01:46] <Godismebot> until she used Letzt Stil [01:47] <KuroAshi98> More idiots on Answers? [01:47] <Godismebot> Yep [01:47] <Godismebot> And on my blog [01:48] <KuroAshi98> ...I must see this. :P [01:49] <Godismebot> http://bleach.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Is_Ichigo%27s_mother_a_quincy_,_there_are_signs_showing_that_she_might_be_the_sister_of_ryuken_ishida_and_signifying_why_isshin_was_banished_%28_he_married_a_quincy_%29_._Also_,_if_this_was_true_,_how_could_a_low_level_hollow_kill_her?redirect=no [01:49] <Godismebot> "There are signs showing she might be the sister of Ryuken Ishida" [01:50] <Godismebot> Really? What signs? [01:50] <KuroAshi98> Seriously ask him. Go to his talk page. :P [01:50] <KuroAshi98> The best way to defeat your enemy is to know your enemy, if we know what makes 'em tick we'll know where to hit 'em haha [01:50] <Godismebot> The enemy is just idiots [01:51] <Godismebot> I dont like idiots [01:51] <KuroAshi98> Ah well, I'm always curious as to what the logic is. [01:52] <Godismebot> People make up ridiculous things [01:54] <Godismebot> Well, I must be off. I have a test to study for [01:54] <KuroAshi98> Lol okay then, good luck with that. :P [02:01] <Godismebot> Hi Mohrpheus, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [02:04] <KuroAshi98> Hey Morph~ [02:05] <Mohrpheus> Hey Kuro. How's it goin? [02:17] <KuroAshi98> Not too bad, just finished writing a review for the last SAO episode lol wbu? [02:22] <Godismebot> Hi Kevingcat, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [02:22] <Kevingcat> Has everyone read the newest chapter? [02:25] <Mohrpheus> Kevingcat, you need ten productive article edits to be here. [02:25] <KuroAshi98> Please leave until such a requirement is met. :3 [02:26] <Mohrpheus> Ya know what, he sat there with the welcome message in front of him for three minutes. :P [02:26] <KuroAshi98> MORPH!! Come on, let democracy have its chance. :( [02:26] <KuroAshi98> Ahh, fair enough lol [02:26] <Mohrpheus> We're slacking! D: [02:27] <Godismebot> Slackers [02:27] <Godismebot> He is one of the people who thinks that Aizen said you are the son of a Shinigami and a ... [02:27] <KuroAshi98> I was working.... lol [02:28] <Godismebot> Bad Kuro [02:29] <KuroAshi98> I was just about to suggest he takes it to your blog before Morph kicked him. ;P [02:29] <Godismebot> Forum:Inconsistency between chapter 397 and 398 read the very last line =P [02:29] <Godismebot> I will never let her live that down [02:29] <Mohrpheus> XD [02:29] <Mohrpheus> [02:30] <Mohrpheus> Should have been Izuna... what a load of crap. [02:30] <Mohrpheus> *rant rant* [02:30] <Godismebot> I always knew it was Obito [02:30] <Godismebot> Everything pointed to it being Obito [02:30] <Mohrpheus> I did too. I think everybody did. But the denial was so strong. [02:31] <Godismebot> I wanted it to be Obito [02:31] <Godismebot> He would be a waste of a character if not [02:31] <Mohrpheus> Yeah. [02:31] <Mohrpheus> But Kishi completely fucked over his databooks' canon timeline, so I can applaud him for that [02:32] <Godismebot> Kind of, yeah [02:33] <Godismebot> The problem is slightly remedied by the fact that Madara did some of what Tobi claimed to have done [02:33] <Mohrpheus> That's the hard part. There's still a lot of argument about just when the Bloody Mist began and ended. [02:34] <Godismebot> Yeah [02:34] <Mohrpheus> Since Kisame recognized Obito, and not Madara. Some people still think he was actually the Mizukage. -_-; [02:34] <Godismebot> He probably was. Bloody mist seemed to be somewhat recent [02:34] <Godismebot> Though I suppose Zabuza throws a wrench in that [02:35] <Mohrpheus> He was manipulating Yagura, the one who was said to have started it. I don't think he was actually it himself [02:35] <Mohrpheus> And yeah, Zabuza causes problems since he's supposedly the reason they ended it. [02:35] <Godismebot> Wasn't there a scene in a chapter showing Kisame meeting Yagura and Tobi steps out? [02:35] <Mohrpheus> Yeah [02:35] <Godismebot> Hi Glass Heart, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [02:36] <Godismebot> Hi Glass [02:36] <Mohrpheus> Hi [02:36] <Glass Heart> Hey. [02:37] <Godismebot> Mohrph, I think the general consensus is not that Tobi was the actual Mizukage, but was manipulating Yagura to do what he wanted and thus was really the one running things, ergo, the Mizukage [02:38] <Mohrpheus> Yeah. There's a faction on Leafninja that seems deadset on him having also been the Sandaime Mizukage though. [02:38] <Mohrpheus> Which is the cause of my headache. [02:38] <Godismebot> Oh god [02:39] <Mohrpheus> Obito's been one busy man. :/ [02:39] <Mohrpheus> Then again, even given less than a year, he can be anywhere he wants at anytime. [02:40] <Godismebot> I think Obito being Tobi works out a lot better than Masaki being a Quincy though [02:41] <Mohrpheus> That would remain to be seen I guess. Isshin lost his power how long ago? 20 years before series start? [02:41] <Godismebot> Yeah [02:42] <Godismebot> If Kubo does something stupid like Isshin used FGT and Masaki used Letzt Stil together to take someone down, I am going to break something [02:43] <Mohrpheus> I can see it being like they fell in love and gave up their powers at the same time, but I don't know about that Sailor Moon bullshit you're talking about [02:43] <Mohrpheus> I'd have to break something as well [02:46] <Godismebot> Its hard to tell but looking at Chapter 19, it doesn't look like Masaki can see Grand Fisher, she is looking down towards Ichigo [02:46] <Godismebot> and we know that a Quincy who uses Letzt Stil can still see Hollows [02:47] <Godismebot> so that is something Kubo needs to address [02:48] <KuroAshi98> Still powerless, if that's really what happened then it's just a matter of a mother sacrificing herself for her child. [02:49] <KuroAshi98> Can't just assume Masaki was actually a strong Quincy either, could just be in the blood but no actual skill. [02:49] <Godismebot> Either way, it does not appear she can see Grand Fisher [02:50] <Godismebot> She seems to be spiritually unaware [02:50] <Mohrpheus> We don't really know the details of the attack. She seemed to just die on top of him. [02:53] <Mohrpheus> Ichigo's understanding is that she had saved him. I dunno, just seems weird that she'd do it on accident. [02:54] <Godismebot> My sense of it was always that she was saving him from the waters [02:54] <Godismebot> It was a storm and very rough waters as you can see. The undertow would have been great [02:54] <Mohrpheus> Yet she died on top of him in it. Unless it was just a puddle. [02:55] <Godismebot> Looks like she ran to save him, grabbed him and was killed [02:55] <KuroAshi98> ABRAAAAAAAAA [02:56] <Godismebot> I don't know, just seems like this was not Kubo's intention in the beginning [02:56] <Salubri> just seems like it? [02:57] <Mohrpheus> So it goes. These things are rarely planned out from beginning to end. [02:57] <Mohrpheus> There aren't many actual holes to patch, just room for expansion. [02:58] <Mohrpheus> Unlike ahem, that other series. [02:58] <Godismebot> Id say Bleach has more plot holes than any other series really [02:59] <Godismebot> We have no idea how Ichigo could use Fullbring. There are many different theories, some of which are sensible, but none was ever confirmed [02:59] <Mohrpheus> We'd have to accept what we were told. One or both of his parents was attacked by a Hollow and survived. [03:00] <KuroAshi98> I think Kubo relies on the fans to infer a lot of this information. So from our encyclopaedic point of view, very bad. :P [03:00] <Salubri> the worse thing about all this is the idiots that are all like i called that and i knew it was gonna happen. What really makes it bad is not the fact that they think they were smart or skilled at discovering something but the fact that the concept was so bad that it was real obvious, therefore they were never smart. I think those of us that would have preferred something better were kind of hoping that wasnt the case [03:01] <Mohrpheus> Well, there's that difference between people calling it a "theory" and those of us who just blatantly guessed it. You can't claim to be smart by stating the obvious. [03:02] <Salubri> but this whole concept is old, which means it was the obvious way to go with no effort or it was really clever. Which the latter is highly unlikely [03:02] <Mohrpheus> Sometimes the obvious is alright. If you try to be too off the wall, then it just gets plain convoluted. [03:02] <Salubri> if you recall people came up with the theory even though they had no evidence to support it [03:03] <Mohrpheus> Like the people who said that Roy Mustang would be the fifth sacrifice. :P [03:04] <KuroAshi98> Really? I always gunned for Armstrong to be the fifth. ;) [03:05] <Mohrpheus> Lol [03:05] <Salubri> i dont recall anyone saying that but the difference is a better story allowed to you to make the jump because the requirements were small [03:05] <KuroAshi98> His sacrifice would of been his epic sparkles. :O [03:05] <Godismebot> NOT THE SPARKLES! [03:06] <Mohrpheus> My general point is that Ichigo's parents' past was more or less unexplored territory so it gives Kubo a lot of leeway to make shit up without actually contradicting anyway [03:06] <Mohrpheus> anything* [03:06] <Mohrpheus> Anyway was supposed to go after territory. Blaeh. [03:07] <Godismebot> Talk:Masaki Kurosaki#Masaki is a_Quincy Now this is what I like to see [03:07] <Godismebot> Someone realizing they are stupid [03:08] <Mohrpheus> Lol. [03:08] <Mohrpheus> I'm surprised people haven't asked "SO IT JUHABACH ICHIGO'S REAL FATHER?" yet [03:08] <Salubri> i like how people can pass on powers in bleach now [03:10] <Salubri> i already stated we dont need to incite that thinking considering thats not remotely what juhabach said [03:10] <Godismebot> http://bleach.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Is_Juhabach_ichigo%27s_father http://bleach.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Is_Isshin_kurosaki_ichigo%27s_father?redirect=no http://bleach.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Is_Ichigo_son_of_Juha_Bach?redirect=no http://bleach.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Is_Juhabach_Ichogo%C2%B4s_father Poor Mohrph [03:10] <Mohrpheus> Damn. I had hope for mankind for a few seconds. [03:11] <Mohrpheus> Foolish of me. :P [03:11] <Godismebot> I lost hope for man kind long ago [03:11] <Salubri> you would have to be soft in the head to even get that from that statement he made. I really dont understand that now everything is taking to have some other meaning there is way too much reading between the lines when thats not even being asked for [03:12] <Mohrpheus> That's what I mean. People overanalyze things. That's where a lot of these shitty "theories" come from. [03:12] <Salubri> true [03:13] <Salubri> thats the worse part they overanalyze what doesnt require any analyzation [03:13] <Godismebot> In this case, its the fact that they are not analyzing things, they are taking Juabach's statement literally [03:13] <Godismebot> When he says "my son" he does not mean he is Ichigo's father [03:13] <Salubri> but how can they take it literally he didnt even say that [03:14] <Salubri> they read part of what he says and dont finish the sentence [03:14] <Godismebot> I believe his exact words were "My son, born in darkness" [03:14] <Godismebot> So people are just being stupid basically [03:14] <Godismebot> as always [03:15] <Mohrpheus> Yeah [03:16] <Godismebot> Don't people know that old men have the habit of saying "son" [03:17] <Mohrpheus> I highly doubt it was meant to be a "by the way, I banged your mom" thing. [03:17] <Salubri> whats interesting is that juhabach apparently has to stay in some shadow realm and can only leave it for a certain amount of time. Best guess is this maybe what has kept him alive for so long [03:17] <Salubri> thats my theory, is that too far fetched [03:17] <Godismebot> That was my thinking as well Sal [03:18] <Mohrpheus> Very possible. I'd guess it applies to everyone though. [03:18] <Godismebot> Maybe [03:18] <KuroAshi98> Well you know, he has lived for 1,000 years. Maybe it was one of Masaki's younger days. They met in the club, drinks were spilling and fondling was had. :P She was ashamed of herself and never talked about it later haha [03:18] <Godismebot> lol Kuro [03:18] <Mohrpheus> Ebern didn't seem to plan to leave when he was fighting Ichigo. [03:18] <Mohrpheus> The shadow just snatched him up [03:19] <Godismebot> The question now is where is Vandenreich HQ? Kubo said it is underneath somewhere we know [03:19] <KuroAshi98> Vashta Nerada? [03:19] <Mohrpheus> Strange that they actually referred to the place as Vandenreich [03:20] <Mohrpheus> The invisible empire. Probably right under everybody's noses. :P I wouldn't surprised if it were in Soul Society, considering how they bypassed the Shakonmaku. [03:20] <Godismebot> That was what I was thinking since the start of the arc [03:20] <Godismebot> Like I said, my belief is that these are likely the spirits of the slain Quincy [03:20] <KuroAshi98> They're secretly the Fourth Squad, finally rebelling after centuries of abuse and neglect. [03:21] <Mohrpheus> Would that be taking the "we've been dead for a thousand years" thing literally? :p [03:21] <Godismebot> No, they died 200 years ago =P [03:23] <Mohrpheus> I think the only thing that can ruin Bleach for me at this point is if Urahara ends up being evil after all. :P [03:23] <Godismebot> Oh God [03:23] <Godismebot> Why does everyone want him to be evil so badly? [03:23] <Godismebot> He has proved time after time that he is the good guy [03:24] <Mohrpheus> Yeah. But people want it. [03:24] <Mohrpheus> For some damn reason [03:24] <KuroAshi98> For shits and giggles? [03:24] <Godismebot> Grrr, dark man made a post on Answers today [03:25] <Godismebot> This one kid is obsessed with darkness for some reason [03:25] <KuroAshi98> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH_fO-naL1o SO EVIL [03:25] <Godismebot> "Is Ichigo darkness element" [03:25] <Godismebot> "Can the Vandenreich manipulate darkness?" [03:25] <Godismebot> "Who controls darkness?" [03:25] <Godismebot> "Are there any dark abilities in Bleach?" [03:26] <Mohrpheus> lmao [03:27] <Godismebot> Oh and some people are back at the Ichigo is the Spirit King theory [03:27] <Mohrpheus> I bet he's the king, key, and third Hogyoku combined. [03:28] <Godismebot> probably [03:31] <Salubri> if he is the king why is he loosing so much [03:32] <KuroAshi98> A KING IS NOTHING WITHOUT HIS PEOPLE!! [03:32] <KuroAshi98> And Ichigo has no people. [03:32] <KuroAshi98> This is why he fails!! [03:35] <Mohrpheus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChV5BZ8SmS0 Force songs to be related when they're not! [03:25] <Godismebot> "Can the Vandenreich manipulate darkness?" [03:25] <Godismebot> "Who controls darkness?" [03:25] <Godismebot> "Are there any dark abilities in Bleach?" [03:26] <Mohrpheus> lmao [03:27] <Godismebot> Oh and some people are back at the Ichigo is the Spirit King theory [03:27] <Mohrpheus> I bet he's the king, key, and third Hogyoku combined. [03:28] <Godismebot> probably [03:31] <Salubri> if he is the king why is he loosing so much [03:32] <KuroAshi98> A KING IS NOTHING WITHOUT HIS PEOPLE!! [03:32] <KuroAshi98> And Ichigo has no people. [03:32] <KuroAshi98> This is why he fails!! [03:35] <Mohrpheus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChV5BZ8SmS0 Force songs to be related when they're not! [03:49] <KuroAshi98> Lol nice [04:01] <KuroAshi98> Well I'm going to go do some work, cya late [04:02] <KuroAshi98> later* [04:39] <Godismebot> Hi KuroAshi98, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [04:40] <Mohrpheus> Weebee Kuro. [04:40] <Godismebot> You guys, it all makes sense now [04:40] <Godismebot> Juhabach wasn't talking to Ichigo when he was saying son [04:40] <Godismebot> he was talking to Zangetsu [04:41] <Mohrpheus> You're shitting me God. [04:42] <Mohrpheus> Nobody that stupid can exist, [04:42] <Godismebot> I hate to be the bearer of bad news Mohrph [04:42] <Godismebot> but [04:42] <Godismebot> http://bleach.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Is_Juhabach_ichigo%27s_father?curid=49091&amp;diff=110951&amp;oldid=110871 [04:43] <Mohrpheus> Oh my. That has to be a troll. It has to be. [04:43] <Mohrpheus> I'm hoping. [04:43] <Mohrpheus> Oh god [04:43] <KuroAshi98> Well they do look similar haha [04:43] <KuroAshi98> Love this question, "Is it illegal to expose myself to trick-or-treaters?" [04:44] <Godismebot> Mohrph, give up on humanity [04:44] <Godismebot> That one is going on my userpage [04:44] <Mohrpheus> XD [04:45] <Mohrpheus> Speaking of which. I keep forgetting to work on mine. :/ [04:45] <KuroAshi98> *cough**cough* [04:46] <Godismebot> Kuro needs to work on his userpage [04:46] <KuroAshi98> Nahh, mine's perfect. :3 [04:47] <Godismebot> Its the default [04:47] <KuroAshi98> Exactly! [04:51] <Mohrpheus> I was going to put down my favorite and most hated characters. Heck, I might have taken it a step further and put in favorite Zanpakuto and bouts. [04:53] <KuroAshi98> Huh, I think this is my White 2 arriving. [04:53] <Mohrpheus> :O [04:54] <KuroAshi98> AND IT'S GOOOOOD [04:55] <Mohrpheus> Hm. I need to hurry and beat mine so that I can get Imposter Ditto. :P [04:59] <KuroAshi98> If I really tried, I could probably finish before Saturday... [05:00] <Mohrpheus> Same. :P [05:00] <KuroAshi98> BUT THERE'S SO MUCH BUBBLE WRAP TO POP!!! D: [05:01] <Mohrpheus> XD [05:02] <KuroAshi98> *pop* *pop* *pop* :D [05:05] <Mohrpheus> Pawn Shop too OP. @.@ [05:07] <KuroAshi98> And this is why I don't use it. ^_^ [05:08] <Mohrpheus> But it saves so much timmmme. [05:08] <Mohrpheus> Time I don't have! O: [05:08] <Godismebot> The pawnshop is a gift to all [05:08] <Godismebot> use it