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Battle 6
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The old man strong enough to shatter an Arrancar with his bare fists vs. the only captain in history to attain the position without Bankai. {{Color|Red|Make your pick, who is the bigger badass?}} }}
 * winner=Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto
 * o1=Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto
 * o2=Kenpachi Zaraki
 * votes1=# Yamamoto because not only is he strong and has a powerful Bankai, he also thinks about how he fights, laying all sorts of traps. And besides, raising an opponent's allies back from the dead is super badass right there. All Zaraki has is raising his reiatsu to extremes. --Kamikaze839 {{sup|(talk)}} 00:17, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) i vote for no less than the strongest shinigami in ss, just to make this a little clear yamamoto did not get any formal education to learn, kido, hakuda, zanjutsu and shunpo, in the first place he founded the shino academy and became a teacher there, it was never clear as to how he learned all of this whats clear is that no shinigami born in the last 1000 years could surpass his strength and power, and if anyone could remember that yamamoto became kenpachi's teacher at one time teaching him how to use two hands in weilding his katana, remember kenpachi lost his wooden sword just by a single hit from yamamoto this proves kenpachi would easily loose against the founder of the gotei 13!!! --User:Warprince89
 * 2) When it comes to being a badass, I don't see how anyone can top Yamamoto. He is over 1000 years old, in peak physical condition (the man has more muscles than anyone in the series really), he can paralyze people with just a glare, he turned Wonderweiss into dust with just his fists and he has used the strongest Kido in the series to date. I don't really think that can be topped.--{{User:Godisme/SwirlSig|01:28,3/5/2013}}
 * 3) The question is who is the biggest badass? Well the answer is gonna be the one who doesnt have to have the obvious look of badass or think smashing through everything with no finesse is badass. The badass would have to be the one that has power you may hear about but not really expect to see. Yama even as old as he is can shatter an arrancar's body with his fists. You knew he was a beast the first time he took off his shirt. The fact that he kept over a dozen of the most powerful Shinigami in line for 1,000 yrs says alot, in fact two of those he kept in line was Zaraki and Unohana. So whose the badass when the old man is the one keeping the wild demon of battle in check as well as the greatest criminal in Soul Society, with only respect. Answer is obvious.--{{User:Salubri/Sig2|01:39,3/5/2013}}
 * 4) As much as I like Kenpachi Zaraki and I know he still has a lot of unexplored potential to becoming the ultimate badass, but until then, my vote for now goes to Old Man Yama, who gave us the "Full Monty" of his awesomeness in kicking ass. Kenpachi Zaraki maybe worthy of the title (or is about to be) but Yama-Sama has been doing the whole Hollow but kicking longer and has gained quite the reputation and respect from all who know him. --Lozkaz {{sup|(talk)}} 05:00, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 5) This is very simple for me. Yama became the more badass when he called Aizen naive and unleashed hado 96 when he was in the crater. Even though it did practically nothing to him, Aizen's face was a keeper :D And it's one of the most awesome moments in Bleach i think! Even his death was pretty badass! I don't like the guy, but he died on his feet!{{Unsigned|BlueExorcistForever}}
 * 6) I would choose Yamamoto as even though Kenpachi is very strong, it takes a very long time for him to hear the call of his zanpakuto, whilst Yamamoto's zanpakuto is already named, plus Yamamoto also has the most versatile bankai.{{Unsigned|Bleachfananon2}}
 * 7) Yamamoto was able to pose a significant threat to Aizen without his Bankai while Kenpachi struggled against Nnoitra. Nuff said.--CiFeR215 {{sup|(talk)}} 19:03, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 8) I don't think I need to put a reason this time, seriously. {{:User:EpaX/Sig2}} 00:17, March 6, 2013 (UTC\
 * 9) I would obviously choose Yammomoto because he is the head captain and much more stronger than Kenpachi. Kenpachi does have intense spiritual pressure but Yammamoto has got skills, a bankai and is even able to take on Jushiro and Kyoraku on the same time {{Unsigned|Bankai007}}
 * 10) I think Yamamoto as we already get the name of his zanpakuto, with kenpachi's zanpakuto being unnamed for most of time, plus Yama has the most versatile bankai with different effects. {{unsigned|DevotedNarutoLoverPerson}}
 * 11) I think Yamamoto is more bad*ss because not only has he kept the title of Captain Commander for over 100 years but by his looks you wouldn't think of him as one. His old look(without seeing his body) betrays how strong he is and his ripped battle-scarred body further illistates how bad*ss he is. Kenpachi really is just reaching his level of true bad*ssness but Yamamoto has been there for a long time.AnimeBear {{sup|(talk)}} 19:14, March 6, 2013 (UTC)}
 * 12) Badassery? Really? A man who makes Captains perspire in fear. A man whose entrance onto the battlefield demands respect. A man whose power of presence was potentially lethal. A man whose very blade is a nightmare to all who've witnessed its power, that no one has fought head on, blade to blade, and emerged victorious, so far as we know. The very same man whose Bankai consumed life itself before the very notion of attack. A man, who I believe fought holding back his true nature in his advanced age, and we saw only glimpses. This man who very well epitomises the word "battle". Badassery you ask? Am sorry but, Kenpachi is but a boy to this man.Shishio san (talk) March 7, 2013
 * 13) Yamamoto vs Zaraki. 1000 years of hard working education vs raw natural talent.  So I say old man Yamamoto take this one.
 * 14) my vote for yamamoto.zaraki is also one of my fav characters but yamamoto is the classic old badass and if you try to remember one yamamoto comes first to mind.he's still the strongest kubo can make him die or lose or whatever but he's still coolest.it's real pitty they killed him like that he worthed much more.
 * 15) Old man Yama for sure. yama-jii has the ultimate shield (Zanka no Tachi, Nishi: Zanjitsu Gokui) and the ultimate attack (the other three bankai abilities).
 * votes2= #I'm going to play devil's advocate here and vote for Kenpachi. While Yamamato is by far the stronger of the two, has the strongest Zanpakuto in SS, can paralyze others by looking at them, etc., there is one thing that differentiates these two: skill. Yamamato formally learned Kidō, Hakuda, Zanjūtsū, and Shunpo. Kenpachi, on the other hand, relies on nothing more than what he's learned throughout his countless fights in order to win. He fights without any "tricks", and remains one of the strongest characters nonetheless.--Xilinoc (talk) 00:26, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Well let's face it, the question is of badass-ery, and no one can step into a fight looking as menacing-but-bored as Zaraki. He has an utter disregard of his opponent's abilities and looks to simply crush them, plus he believes that without a doubt he'll win in a fight. Even as a kid he was terrifying as well as unimaginably powerful... That image of him on top of that pile of corpses made him undoubtedly the scariest character in Bleach... In my opinion. KazeshiniKing (talk) 01:18, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) Kenpachi is a badass --FinalMugetsu (talk) 04:39, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 3) My vote goes to Kenpachi, simply because of his "Mental Shackles". He became the Captain of arguably one of the most powerful divisions in the Gotei 13, while severely restrained, and in every major conflict, is the ultimate Shinigami Trump-Card. As a child he was a badass, as a restrained captain, badass, and now that he is unrestrained? Ultimate Badass. Period. Sicarius001 (talk) 03:18, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * 4) My vote has to go to Kenpachi. Another tough one for me to vote on, I had to weigh a lot of different things. first of all I have to remember that when Rukia was up for execution, what did Yamamoto say about it? He just went along like some Yes man "Well uhhh central 46 said so" In that moment even his own students Shone out brighter than he. I will say that the Head Captain of the Gotei 13 does come with some responsibility, but he was just as oblivious as Byakuya at that time. Kenpachi on the other hand? His character may have been blunt, openly admitting he didn't care about whether Rukia lived or died and did what he did looking for Ichigo yadda yadda. But he followed his own path and went against the order. It is hard to pick a bigger badass based on fighting skill seeing how whenever either of them come out onto a battlefield, you KNOW some serious shit is about to go down. Kenpachi may seem to struggle in fights. But that is on a total subconscious level. Without fun in battle Kenpachi would lose his purpose. So to dull down his power and STILL kick such ass? Yamamoto may have lost a few points when he merely "wounded" Aizen. But who could forget what he did to the Member of Vandenreich that stole Sasakibe's Bankai! Literally melted the flesh from his bones! Only to follow up by ripping across Soul Society, leaving a massive blaze in his wake, inspiring every captain that saw the fiery path! That part gave me chills! And he fought hard, unveiling a WICKED Bankai. In the end he died but died STANDING slashed in two and STILL gabbed on to Buckbeard's cloak. But he did DIE. I may be taking the question "who IS a bigger badass" a tad to literal. But Yamamoto passed on. All he IS, is resting in peace. Kenpachi is now developing his strength to break his "subconscious plug of power (lol)" and has heard the call of his Zanpakto. New Head Captain Shunsui even said that Kenpachi is the only chance they have to win the war with Vandenreich. That also says a lot. We still haven't seen the full potential of Ukitake, Shunsui, Shinji, etc! If Shunsui is betting the survival of the Gotei 13, Soul Society AND THE BLOODY BALANCE OF THE WORLD on Kenpachi and his un-tapped potential? That is a testament to his Badassery! Both characters have a special place in my heart. But Yamamoto has reigned for 1000 years, he has earned a well deserved rest. May Kenpachi reign as Badass Champion! Rest in Peace, Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto. Sorry if I wrote a little to much lol. Soon to be Captain (talk) 09:03, March 6, 2013 (UTC)!
 * 5) Okay, we must face the facts. The Ultimate Badass is the Strongest in Soul Society, the Second Kenpachi, ZARAKI KENPACHI! He is the only Shinigami (Soul Reaper) to have reached the rank of captain without even a Shikai. When Old Man Yama saw him learning Zanjūtsū, he ordered it to stop, for fear of Kenpachi destroying Soul Society. This badass was also chosen by the First Kenpachi, Unohana Yachiru herself to become the next owner of the title of "Strongest". And that was before he heard the call of his once nameless Zanpakutō, making him second to none in the universe, except for maybe Kurosaki Ichigo or Kyōraku Shunsui. If that is not badass above all other forms of badass, I do not know what is. I rest my case. --RurouniSmartass (talk) 23:54, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * 6) Kenpachi by far beacuse beacuse everyone always underestamites him for his spritual level and how strong he is of a fighter. I mean come on he took on two Captin Soul reapers at once. He is also lost some of his sanity in a way to begin with but it still does not make up how good of a warrior he is.
 * Ok, I know Old Man Yama was super powerful, but I'm with Kenpachi purely because he's, well, more awesome.