Talk:Ichigo Kurosaki

Oken Clothing
When Yhwach explains to Ichigo that his clothes allowed him to break through the barrier to the soul kings palace, I'm sure on at least three different sites. Yhwach says "The clothes you are wearing right now" wouldn't that indicate that his oken clothing wasn't those weird rags that Renji, Rukia and perhaps Byakuya had after their training? And that the Oken clothing wasn't destroyed by Candice and the other sternritter? Otherwise Yhwach would have just went up straight after Renji and Rukia came down unless he wasn't sure if Ichigo was still up there or not. Still though, this crackpot theory would explain Ichigo's new permanent clothing and armor. Just a thought. Let me know what you think. Skitzo1 (talk) 22:57, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

Advanced Growth Rate
I was just wondering if we should include Ichigo's massive leap in ability from his Dangai training in this section, as he went from being weaker than Ulquiorra in his first Resurrection to just curb stomping the two strongest Hōgyoku Aizen forms. --Kaestal (talk) 05:04, December 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * I think your putting too much on a one time situation. The power Ichigo gained in that situation was temporary as explained in chapter 423, that whole ordeal reversed what he had gained as if the time in the dangai never happened and then he became not only powerless but totally spiritually unaware. He regained his normal power lvl and was retrained/conditioned in the Royal Palace so He currently is more powerful then he was previously before the Dangai and after but not as powerful as that one sitaution. There would serve no purpose to point out something that in-universe took place in a matter of minutes before disappearing. It would only make sense if that lvl was maintained, so its basically a temporary point that doesnt add anything that isnt already covered in the article or corresponding fight page.--

Ah, gotcha, so could I put the increase in his ability from Quilge to Candice then? He did go from having to use his Bankai to be able to match and defeat Quilge while just a few days later he was matching Candice with Shikai and that is a permanent increase like you said. --Kaestal (talk) 09:05, December 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * If you read the varying sections on his spiritual power and strength that is already covered mostly.--

I was wondering, as we have now know who all the 5 SWP are, as well the reason they all so Special, I think its important to have them mentioned in related sections of the Powers & Abilities, like with Kisuke I put under Master Strategist & Tactician "It was for this reason why Kisuke was chosen as one of the 5 Special War Powers by the Wandenreich". And I have done the same with Kenpachi and Aizen, but not with Ichibei because nothing I see that can be related with his "Wisdom", (Unless you put it under with True Name Manipulation as I'm sure he wisely chooses the proper names for anything), but with Ichigo, would you say his "Latent" his related to his Advanced Growth Rate, just like to be sure for Ichigo and also Ichibei of possible. CoolJazzman (talk) 17:34, February 10, 2016 (UTC)

Race
Several things. Shouldn't Ichigo be under Hollow, Shinigami, Quincy, and Human? Also since Shiro Zangetsu was reforged, did Ichigo really lose his Visored powers? Korog (talk) 20:05, March 13, 2016 (UTC)Korog


 * We don't know if he can or can't use his Hollow mask yet, so I'd guess to be on the safe side it's listed under his "Former Powers" section. Arawn 999 (talk) 21:00, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

That makes a lot of sense, I hope Tite Kubo hurries up and lets us know.Korog (talk) 21:45, March 13, 2016 (UTC)Korog

Ichigo is categorized as Human, Shinigami, and Quincy. Having a hollow mask does not make one a hollow. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 21:55, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

He turned into one that has the strength of a Vastos Lordes, Zangetsu was/is one (a hollow not Menos), Zangetsu is part of Ichigo. Looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, moves like a duck, is/was at least part duck, couldn't it be classified as at least pseudo-duck? Duck being a metaphor for hollow in this instance.Korog (talk) 23:36, March 13, 2016 (UTC)Korog.

Hollow Ichigo was not a Vasto Lorde. Was never stated to be one, and a human like Ichigo can't be one since he's, well, human. He may have been powerful, but that still does not make him a Hollow. And as was said before, just having the mask doesn't make him a Hollow, either. In that case the Visored would be Hollows too, and we know that isn't the case. FutureQuincy (talk) 23:58, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Okay I'm going to go and put this in terms I hate using after I clear something up I said "has the strength of a Vastos Lordes, Zangetsu was/is one" I meant a hollow not Menos Grande, although what do we know of White's history aside from he was made by Aizen, attacked Isshin and Masaki, infected Masaki then Ichigo with a Hollow pathogen or something? I also am aware the mask is just a part of a Hollow, as is the hole, which Ichigo has had in his soul at least 3 times. However in some ways both Ichigo and Yhwach could in certain circumstances be called "PSUEDO-hollows" Yhwach because he consumes souls, and Ichigo because he has a potentially former Hollow rooming in his soul. In a way Shiro Zangetsu is either White or a reformation of White via a Hollow infection of Ichigo's mother, that in simple terms was essentially a possessing spirit in Ichigo's body that bonded to his soul. I understand that I wasn't entirely clear on Shiro's rank, and should have put more space between my observation of the Shiro possessed Ichigo that fought Ulquiorra's strength and the actual ranking of Shiro. However I thought I brought up a decent point. In fact why not classify all those who are or were Visoreds, that hollowfied to gain control of their mask, "former pseudo-hollows" as it is fitting?Korog (talk) 01:49, March 14, 2016 (UTC)Korog