Forum:Muramasa Theories (Thread Closed)

He's like a mixed Ulquiorra, Kusaka from DDR and Aizen (he resembles him in the way he treats his subordinates - he seems friendly to them). Tmasterson 12:49, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Kinda interesting idea... What if he`s a Resurrección Spirit? He kinda looks that way...--Sleuch Mizzur 12:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * A lot of people are suggesting he may be Kenpachi's zanpakuto spirit. Evilgidgit 22:06, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I think that, that possibility can be added in the Trivia. Just because he shows disliking to the Shinigamis, and Kenpachi hates his Zampakutoh. Then, when Kenpachi fought against Ichigo, there was shown two "spirits", and the Muramasa's reiatsu shows to be really high. Rambard 00:00, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it should be entered into the trivia section yet because it's still speculation. Short of someone saying definitively that Muramasa is Zaraki's zanpakto, we won't know for sure. Angeluscado 04:26, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

When does Kenpachi ever say he despises his Zanpakuto? Even if that was true, there simply isn't enough proof there to say that Muramasa is the Zanpakuto of anyone in particular. It's merely speculation and fan hopes that he is Kenpachi's, but that's not enough to add to the trivia section, as stated on this wikia's Bleach_Wiki:About page. Twocents 04:34, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Also Twocents is correct Kenpachi never says anything of the like also the personality does not reflect Kenpachi's nor does his style of doing whatever he is doing. On top of that Kubo wont do something as serious as that in a anime filler. That type of information can only be presented in the manga where it can be concrete for use throughout the series.Salubri 05:55, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

One argument i have against him belonging to Zaraki is that the spirits seem to use their released swords (Gegetsuburi, Hōzukimaru, Kazeshini, Senbonzakura, Sode no Shirayuki, Suzumebachi, Zabimaru). We at one point see Muramasa use a sword and some kind of power but it looks nothing like Zaraki sword in anyway. I doubt it could be a bankai because the spirits can only do what there owner's were able to perform, otherwise Sode no Shirayuki would have just used bankai on Rukia

I have a feeling that Muramasa's shinigami has died at some point in past while Muramasa was away from his shinigami (same way as all zanpakutous are atm), leaving Muramasa alone. And his loneliness has made him so sad and angry that he wants to release all spirits. Akeki 21:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

The evidence holding together my theory is kinda flimsy, but I hope you'll all see where I'm coming from with this. I believe Muramasa could be Tessai's Zanpakuto. Now alot of people might think "Tessai is completely irrelevant to the story. Why would he all of a sudden get a story where his zanpakuto is the main antagonist." and I really don't know how to answer that. This is filler. The writers could make it about anything they want. The reasons I think it might be Tessai's are (here's the flimsy evidence): 1) Muramasa's tsuba, or guard for his sword, kinda looks like the Kido Corps symbol and 2) Instead of unsheathing his sword he kinda just summons it. It might be from a Kido-type technique, it might not. Also his zanpakuto soul releasing powers might be Kido too. That's usually how they explain non-physical/magical things in Bleach right?Ultimt evil 13:00, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I think that wrong hes not Karaki's or Tessai's, as of Episode 234 he said it himslef he killed his owner. Thank go hes not Zaraki why would they reveal such a mystery as what does Zaraki's zapukto spirit look like and name on a filler, is illogical.Saimaroimaru 08:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

My guess is that Tite Kubo would reserve Zaraki misteries for a potential "the Tales of Kempachi/Zaraki" Baronofash 09:37, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Now I know I'm wrong, but if you took the 2 seconds to notice, I posted that before ep. 234 was released. There's a number of people's zanpakutos he could still be. Ultimt evil 00:12, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

he is not the zanpakuto of anyone we know as he said he killed is owner many years ago Fawcettp 01:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)