Forum:Nemesis

Nemesis = Rival who can't be best or overcome or in some modern aspects Nemesis = natural antagonist In every stories, there are protagonists and their antagonists, in these there also are their nemesis or the ones they can't overcome (eg. Wolverine vs Sabretooth, Spiderman vs Venom). It could be an enemy or a foe. Then considering Bleach, we also have them.


 * -Ichigo: Byakuya, Zaraki, Ulquiorra. Some people think if he beat them once, he is stronger than them. The progression of the story showed that each time Ichigo met them, he started to be afraid and tried to retreat first.


 * -Grimmjaw: Ichigo
 * -Ishida: Mayuri, Ichigo
 * -Hitsugaya: Aizen, Gin
 * -Hisagi: Tosen
 * -Shinji: Aizen
 * -Soifon: Yoruichi
 * ect...

What do you think?Baronofash 01:44, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

I'm confused. Are u asking us should there be a page like this or are u asking us to post something similar on this forum? Or are u just typing this down for us to see? Minato88 03:15, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

I'm also confused what is the point your getting at exactly.Salubri 03:23, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Is he just stating that there are nemesis in Bleach? Nick4444 05:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Honestly I think you're misusing the term nemisis. More approprately for most of the examples you listed you should use just rival, except the shinji/aizen one. Other than that, I'm with the others I don't get the point of this list. --Ihaveaname 21:02, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

For the smart one, only few words are necessary... Anyway, it is not because you cannot understand the point, that means it has not point. If you don't understand something, try to get it, if not, pass your way. Besides saying that you "think" about something reveals that you aren't sure about it, right? Thus, a nemesis is a rival you can't or have difficulties to beat, as well as the ones you refuse to face, it is also said about someone or something, whatever you could do, always return to fight or haunt you. Nemesis was the name of an important entity in the Greek mythology. Don't try to say something just to say hollow speeches. I would teach you its definiton:
 * NEMESIS
 * 1-Greek goddess of retributive justice
 * 2- One that inflicts retribution or vengeance; formidable and usually victorious rival or opponent
 * 3-an act or effect of retribution

I could teach you more things, but it would be a loss of time, and it seems that some of you do not deserve it. End of the topic...Baronofash 03:26, October 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Dude, your inability to express your thoughts properly is not other peoples problems. Plus you post really didn't have much point to it. Most of the people you listed do not fall under the definition of "nemesis". I suggest you use the blog feature to express your thoughts on topics like these that really don't invite active discussion. People can still leave comments if they want to but the watercooler does not seem the appropriate place for what you want to do, i.e. state your speculations and invite comments on said speculation. Tinni 03:54, October 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * As expected, you are the one to talk... Remembering your posts, asking others to not talk about speculations is quite gorgeous, dude. As though... Then keep digging...
 * End of my participationBaronofash 07:33, October 15, 2009 (UTC)Italic text

Dude, I am not saying you can't speculate on the watercooler. Afterall, this is one of the places in the wiki we can speculate freely. I am just saying that you have started a whole bunch of topics in the last few days, where you got fairly cut when people posted contrary views to your own or challenged you in some other way. Leading me to believe that you don't really want to "discuss" things but just state you opinion/speculation. Just saying if you want to do that the blog feature is better suited for that kind of thing. But whatever. Tinni 08:20, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Again, I ask u Baronofish. WHAT IS THE POINT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I admit for the first time on the wiki i'm slightly offended. I ASKED U TO IF U THOUGHT THERE SHOULD BE A PAGE STATING THE COMMON NEMESIS' OF BLEACH AS DID THE OTHERS & U REPLY BY INSULTING US. WHY? I thought what we typed were perfectly logical questions. Minato88 15:09, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Accepting critics is a good sign on a person,  everyone here has a diferent point o view on every matters, please be kind to the others if you want them to be kind to you, this is not the place to argue about something BaronDaigo623 22:58, October 15, 2009 (UTC)