Bleach Wiki:Chat/July 24, 2012

 [12:44]  Hi Kazmiboy, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [12:45]  Hey guys, do you mind answering a question I had? [01:18]  Hi Dark Seeker Kotsu, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [01:25]  accidental revert?? [01:26]  Yes, I meant to hit the talk button, I hit the undo instead [01:32]  Hi Dark Seeker Kotsu, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [01:33]  Hi [01:36]  hey Kotsu [01:37]  How's it going? [01:38]  tired and sore one of those nights but making gifs and playing Pokemon pearl at same time [01:38]  im actually enjoying it, i didnt last year when i played it [01:38]  hmph buizel just evolved that was early [01:43]  ...Well that was interesting [01:43]  Hi Minish Link, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [01:43]  Hi [01:43] <Minish Link> Heyo. [01:58] <SunXia> FB is sooooo glitchy!!!! [02:04] <SunXia> grrr i hate that sometimes no matter how tough the pokemon level is and how long takes you to beat them some jst giv shit exp [02:12] <SunXia> should archive talk page after this [02:37] <Godisme> Hi Dark Seeker Kotsu, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [04:06] <Godisme> Hi DatRegularShow, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [04:06] <DatRegularShow> O_) [04:24] <Godisme> Hi ^achie^, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [05:19] <Godisme> Hi KuroAshi98, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [05:20] <KuroAshi98> My god I come here and the first thing on the activity feed is a pairing blog. &gt;_&gt; [06:00] <Godisme> Hi SunXia, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [06:07] <Godisme> Hi Elcidman, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [06:07] <Elcidman> ddddddddddddddammmmmmmmmmnnnn [06:07] <Elcidman> i thought dat one guy was on [06:07] <Elcidman> so i could kick his ass [06:15] <Godisme> And good riddance to you [06:15] <SunXia> i was about to do that [06:16] <Godisme> Not sure who one kicks another person's ass in chat but I don't care to find out [06:18] <Godisme> Welp, back to Smallville [06:19] <SunXia> i think thats the guy who hates Kotsu [06:22] <Godisme> I had assumed that he meant Kotsu [06:22] <Godisme> I don't know why so many people hate the kid but Im happy to keep banning them [06:37] <SunXia> hes actually followed by a lot of them bt there are people who hate how he used to ban them for swearing [08:09] <Godisme> Hi The Shining Star, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [08:09] <The Shining Star> Hey Guys! :D [08:10] <The Shining Star> ...oh great, I come at the very moment Sun's away and God possibly might be taking a nap &gt;.&gt; [08:10] <The Shining Star> Well, since no one's here, I guess I can troll a bit &gt;.&gt; [08:11] <The Shining Star> Which sucks because trolling gets boring when no one's around [08:11] <The Shining Star> Why the heck am I talking to myself?! [08:13] <Godisme> Hi Aeron Solo, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [08:13] <The Shining Star> O HAI AERON :D [08:13] <Aeron Solo> Ohaidere everybody [08:14] <The Shining Star> That doesn't count as all caps, does it? (I DID have a colon XD) [08:14] <Aeron Solo> lol [08:14] <The Shining Star> Aeron, I challenge you to a Card Game. [08:16] <The Shining Star> Hello? God? Sun? You guys here? [08:16] <The Shining Star> O noes they died D: [08:16] <Aeron Solo> I hope they're here. I've missed them. [08:17] <The Shining Star> Yeah. Actually, on second thought I hope they don't come while I'm here [08:17] <The Shining Star> (They might kill me for leaving Karin's page alone for so long &gt;.&gt;) [08:17] <Aeron Solo> OK, WE'RE SORRY WE'VE BEEN GONE FROM BLEACH WIKI FOR SO LONG. ARE YOU HAPPY? [08:18] <The Shining Star> And the last thing I want is God's wrath...actually, never mind, I fear Sun even more. [08:19] <The Shining Star> Well, no one's here, I guess...okay, I can live a bit longer. [08:19] <The Shining Star> In the meantime, Aeron, let's start talking about our fanfics to confuse God and Sun when they come back! &gt;:3 [08:19] <The Shining Star> Here on chat, that is. XD [08:20] <Aeron Solo> Whoa wait a minute [08:20] <The Shining Star> What? [08:20] <Aeron Solo> Bro we're officers on the article improvement unit [08:20] <Aeron Solo> When on earth did that happen? [08:20] <The Shining Star> When we started helping out here. Remember Yuichi Shibata? [08:21] <The Shining Star> Although THAT work pales compared to what I did on Hell Chapter. &gt;:D [08:31] <The Shining Star> I like turtles. [08:36] <Godisme> Hi Arrancar109, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [08:36] <Arrancar109> Wow, I'm seeing guys on here I haven't seen in a long time. [08:36] <The Shining Star> Oh, hey Arrancar! :D [08:36] <Arrancar109> Yo. [08:36] <The Shining Star> School/Fanfics have kept me busy, so yeah &gt;.&gt; [08:37] <Arrancar109> Also, I'm seeing very silent regulars around here too. :p [08:37] <The Shining Star> But the point is, I HAVE RETURNED FROM HELL! :D [08:37] <The Shining Star> (And I get to say that cause I wrote Hell Chapter's summary) [08:37] <Arrancar109> Heh. [08:38] <The Shining Star> Aeron's working on Article Improvement, because I got worried that God would fry me since I haven't been very active lately-OH CRAP NOW ARRANCAR WILL KILL ME SINCE I NEGLECTED KARIN'S PAGE D: (hides under table) [08:38] <Arrancar109> Given what happened here a few days ago, you're one of the last people I feel like killing right now. [08:38] <The Shining Star> Uh-oh. Did Kamehameha come back? [08:39] <Arrancar109> No, but I do have news that kinda concerns him. [08:39] <Arrancar109> Don't worry, it's good news. :p [08:39] <The Shining Star> Great. What is it? [08:40] <Arrancar109> His incompetence and inability to perform the duties of an administrator has caused one of their chat mods to leave their site. [08:40] <Arrancar109> And, from what I've come to understand, this was a very important chat mod. [08:40] <The Shining Star> *facepalms* Classic [08:40] <Arrancar109> The reason why this is good news is he hangs around here now. :p [08:41] <The Shining Star> Wait, Kamehameha hangs around HERE?! [08:41] <Arrancar109> No, the chat mod that he pissed off does. [08:41] <The Shining Star> Oh. Who is it? [08:41] <Arrancar109> If he came here, I likely would have chatbanned him, if he really hasn't changed since the last time he was here. [08:42] <The Shining Star> You'd ban the chat mod? [08:42] <Arrancar109> No, 10X [08:42] <The Shining Star> Oh. So who's the chat mod? [08:42] <Arrancar109> Dark Seeker Kotsu [08:42] <The Shining Star> Sweet. Never heard of him. :P [08:42] <Aeron Solo> lol [08:42] <Arrancar109> He's still getting used to this place. [08:42] <The Shining Star> Aeron hath returned from the dead! [08:43] <The Shining Star> Why'd I just say "hath?" [08:43] <Arrancar109> Star, you said you're a fanfic reader/writer, right? [08:43] <Aeron Solo> We both are [08:43] <Arrancar109> Cool. [08:43] <Arrancar109> Maybe you guys would get a kick out of this: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8300491/1/Dear_Bleach_Fanfiction_Authors [08:43] <The Shining Star> Yep [08:43] <The Shining Star> Here goes... [08:44] <The Shining Star> Excuse me for a moment, guys. (leaves and rolls on the floor laughing my butt off) [08:44] <Aeron Solo> Too busy chatting here to read more than the first entry but LOL [08:45] <The Shining Star> Wait...there's more? God, I'm gonna die laughing :3 [08:45] <Arrancar109> My personal favorites were Mayuri and Rukia's chapters. :p [08:45] <The Shining Star> I mean, Arrancar. Seeing as God is Dead. [08:46] <Arrancar109> And now you pinged him. [08:46] <Arrancar109> He's not gonna be happy if he's in the middle of Team Fortress 2 again. :p [08:46] <The Shining Star> He plays TF2? [08:46] <Aeron Solo> Anybody play CSS besides me? [08:46] <The Shining Star> I don't! :D [08:46] <Arrancar109> Yep. He hasn't pestered me about it, but he wants me to play it too. [08:47] <Arrancar109> CSS? [08:47] <Aeron Solo> Counter-Strike Source [08:47] <The Shining Star> So how long do you think it'll be before God and Sun come back? [08:47] <Arrancar109> Ah. [08:48] <Godisme> Shhhh, im burning people with rainbows [08:48] <Arrancar109> lol [08:48] <The Shining Star> Wait...WHAT?! [08:48] <The Shining Star> Burning people...with rainbows...*mind explodes* [08:48] <The Shining Star> (mind recovers) Arrancar, what's he talking about? [08:49] <Godisme> The rainblower obviously [08:49] <Arrancar109> lol [08:49] <Godisme> Best Pyro weapon in TF2 [08:49] <Aeron Solo> I have no idea what you're talking about but I don't care. Long time no see God [08:49] <Arrancar109> Ha! Knew it! [08:50] <Godisme> Now shhh, Im on a 12 kill streak [08:50] <Aeron Solo> Ok Ok [08:50] <The Shining Star> QuickmakeasmuchnoiseaspossibletomakeGodangry! [08:50] <Arrancar109> You guys should really come here around Saturday night when Bleach usually comes on. [08:50] <Arrancar109> It's when chat's most active. [08:51] <Arrancar109> There were at least 13 people on at the same time once. [08:51] <Aeron Solo> Seeing that its summer and I have my own laptop, I think that's doable. Star, whaddaya think? [08:51] <Aeron Solo> [08:52] <The Shining Star> No. [08:52] <Arrancar109> He's afraid of people. [08:52] <The Shining Star> I have to keep working on my Fan Service :3 [08:52] <Arrancar109> Particularly Sal. :p [08:52] <The Shining Star> Wrong, I'm afraid of Sun. [08:52] <Arrancar109> lol [08:53] <The Shining Star> Arrancar, do you write fanfiction, by the way? [08:53] <Arrancar109> Naw, but I got a friend who does. [08:53] <Arrancar109> That's why I got that link in the first place. :p [08:54] <The Shining Star> Oh. THAT MEANS I'M MORE POPULAR (because I write fanfics and you don't, so I give more Service to my Fans &gt;:3)!!! [08:54] <Arrancar109> Of course you are. [08:54] <Arrancar109> People hate me. [08:55] <Arrancar109> Because I constantly keep on removing their ridiculous fanon theories and opinions from articles. :p [08:55] <Aeron Solo> Well somebody's gotta keep fact apart from fiction around here (even though it's facts ABOUT fiction :P) [08:55] <The Shining Star> I am totally crazy with my fanfics half the time XD [08:56] <The Shining Star> So you'd probably go in and bust my Fan Service up...OH CRAP. [08:56] <Arrancar109> Naw. [08:56] <Arrancar109> I only do this on Bleach Wiki. [08:56] <Arrancar109> Everywhere else you're safe. [08:56] <Arrancar109> Well... almost. [08:56] <The Shining Star> Oh. My Fan Service is safe :D Hopefully... [08:56] <The Shining Star> (waits for Arrancar to scream at me to stop talking about Fan Service) [08:56] <Arrancar109> I have accounts in other places under a completely different name, so you'll never know who I am, where I am, when I am. [08:56] <Arrancar109> I could have an account anywhere. [08:57] <The Shining Star> That's creepy. [08:57] <Arrancar109> Facebook, MySpace, DeviantArt, or even... [08:57] <Arrancar109> *insert drama music here* [08:57] <Aeron Solo> Twitter? [08:57] <Arrancar109> FanFiction.net :p [08:57] <Aeron Solo> lol [08:57] <The Shining Star> *screams and faints* [08:57] <Aeron Solo> rofl [08:58] <Arrancar109> There's a reason behind not using this name outside of Wikia though. [08:58] <Aeron Solo> To keep the stalkers away? [08:58] <Arrancar109> Given how many people ask us why we remove their edits, and how many people I have banned, I really would rather not deal with Wikia matters outside of Wikia. [08:58] <Aeron Solo> I see. [08:58] <Arrancar109> Tinni might have had that problem. [08:59] <Arrancar109> She used the same pen name on FanFiction.net and probably LiveJournal too. [08:59] <Aeron Solo> Well I'm not an admin, so I don't have that problem :P [08:59] <The Shining Star> This is why I'm called 10ShiningStars on Youtube (yes, the name sucks) and Axel Nightblazer on Fanfiction (the name ROCKS). [08:59] <Arrancar109> Exactly. :p [08:59] <The Shining Star> And here, I am called The Shining Star. Epic name, right? [08:59] <SunXia> hey guys [08:59] <Arrancar109> There she is. [08:59] <Arrancar109> SUN! [08:59] <Aeron Solo> Hey Sun how's it going [08:59] <The Shining Star> OMG SUN'S ALIVE!!!!! [08:59] <Arrancar109> How dare you leave me with these guys!?! [08:59] <The Shining Star> Hey! I'm not THAT bad! I'm just an idiot! D:&lt; [09:00] <Arrancar109> They felt intimidated with dealing with only with me. :p [09:00] <SunXia> hey sorry making gifs it takes a while lol [09:00] <SunXia> lol aww they ok ?? [09:00] <Aeron Solo> We're fine [09:00] <Arrancar109> Oh, they're fine. [09:00] <The Shining Star> Oh wait, Sun's here...AAAAAAAAAAAH FLEE BEFORE SHE KILLS ME FOR NEGLECTING BLEACH WIKI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [09:00] <Arrancar109> I gave them a link to a fanfic that my friend showed me. [09:00] <The Shining Star> (ducks under table) [09:00] <Aeron Solo> I was more worried for Arrancar's sanity after dealing with BOTH of us [09:00] <Aeron Solo> XD [09:00] <SunXia> kill for neglecting?? [09:00] <Arrancar109> If you met me IRL, you wouldn't be feeling that way. :p [09:00] <Aeron Solo> Hmmmmmmm [09:00] <SunXia> lol [09:01] <Arrancar109> Anyway, you wanna take a peek at what I linked them to Sun? [09:01] <Arrancar109> Don't think I showed you yet. [09:01] <The Shining Star> Aizen controls...er, has known Tite Kubo since birth. [09:01] <Arrancar109> Showed a couple of people. Definitely Kuro. [09:01] <SunXia> sure [09:01] <The Shining Star> *SPOILER'D* [09:01] <Arrancar109> http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8300491/1/Dear_Bleach_Fanfiction_Authors [09:02] <The Shining Star> Arrancar, I challenge you to a Duel. [09:03] <SunXia> who wrote this arrancar?? [09:03] <Arrancar109> Some random author. My friend only showed it to me. :p [09:03] <Godisme> Hi Arrancar109, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [09:03] <The Shining Star> Connection fail? [09:03] <Arrancar109> Naw, accidentally refreshed. [09:03] <The Shining Star> GOOD GOING!!! (sarcasm) [09:04] <Arrancar109> Laptop mice are sensitive at times. [09:04] <Arrancar109> So you gotta be careful with them. [09:04] <Aeron Solo> tell me about it [09:04] <Aeron Solo> Especially the kriffing mousepad [09:04] <Arrancar109> Ouch. [09:04] <SunXia> i disable my touchpads and use mice [09:04] <Arrancar109> Understandable. [09:05] <The Shining Star> I'm defeating you all by sending my cat to deal with them. [09:05] <Aeron Solo> I never use the touchpad anyway so maybe I should do that [09:05] <Arrancar109> BTW, why do you ask about the author, Sun? [09:05] <Aeron Solo> We have a cat? [09:05] <The Shining Star> DANGIT AERON!!! You foiled my plan D:&lt; [09:05] <Aeron Solo> lol [09:06] <Aeron Solo> Star, our modem really sucks you know that? [09:06] <The Shining Star> Agreed. [09:06] <Aeron Solo> Here I am, ten feet to your left, and I only have two bars. [09:06] <Arrancar109> Okay, now I know 5 fanfic authors who have visited Wikia. [09:06] <Aeron Solo> TWO BARS!!!!! [09:06] <Aeron Solo> What? [09:07] <The Shining Star> And I am clearly the best of them. [09:07] <Arrancar109> You two, KuroAshi98, Tinni (obviously), and Mohrpheus. [09:07] <The Shining Star> Because I give my fans my best Fan Service consistently. [09:07] <Aeron Solo> I C [09:07] <Arrancar109> I'm debating whether or not to count Lemursrule, because of her intentionally bad and disturbing fanfic. :p [09:07] <SunXia> Oh just asking how you found it Arrancar [09:08] <Arrancar109> Ah. It's cool. [09:08] <Arrancar109> Yeah, given how I've dealt with users here, Sun, you can imagine that I don't have the patience to wade through the fanfics to search for a good story. [09:08] <Arrancar109> True, not all fanfics are bad, but many of them are, for one reason or another. [09:08] <Aeron Solo> Yeah [09:08] <Aeron Solo> A lot are written by wannabes [09:08] <Arrancar109> Namely going overboard regarding fan pairings. [09:09] <The Shining Star> Yeah, writing a good fanfic is actually tough for me. (Because I like going crazy.) [09:09] <The Shining Star> But I still give out the very best Fan Service. [09:09] <The Shining Star> :D [09:09] <Aeron Solo> ENOUGH WITH THE FAN SERVICE!!!!! [09:09] <Arrancar109> Heh. [09:09] <Arrancar109> Anyway, I'd better head out, though I'll try to come back later. [09:09] <Arrancar109> I gotta meet a friend for lunch. [09:09] <The Shining Star> I knew someone would start ranting about my continuous talking about Fan Service eventually. Bye, Arrancar. [09:10] <Aeron Solo> Alright bye Arrancar. Make sure you don't have your friend's soul for lunch (hint: ARRANCAR) [09:10] <Arrancar109> lol [09:10] <The Shining Star> FOREVER!!! (aims Laser at Arrancar) [09:10] <Arrancar109> Don't kill Star over his Fan Service. :p [09:10] <The Shining Star> (You know, goodbye forever? XD) [09:10] <Aeron Solo> Oh I won't kill him. [09:10] <Aeron Solo> Come pretty close? Sure. [09:10] <The Shining Star> I will give my fans Service by defeating Aeron if he tries anything. [09:10] <Arrancar109> lol [09:10] <Arrancar109> Cool. [09:10] <Arrancar109> Bye guys. [09:10] <The Shining Star> Bye :D [09:10] <Aeron Solo> Bye [09:12] <The Shining Star> So, is there anything else we can talk about now? [09:12] <The Shining Star> Or should I keep working on my Fan Service? [09:15] <The Shining Star> Fan Service it is, then. [09:15] <SunXia> lol sorry [09:15] <SunXia> making gifs is time consuming [09:16] <Aeron Solo> of course [09:16] <Aeron Solo> but keep doing it [09:16] <Aeron Solo> we need a good gif person [09:16] <SunXia> lol if you have a look at my latest talk page message you will see that i have a list to do [09:17] <Aeron Solo> oh wow how far are you? [09:17] <SunXia> not far into it just got the list yesterday [09:18] <Aeron Solo> ok which ONE are you on? [09:18] <The Shining Star> Let's see...OH GAWD [09:19] <The Shining Star> Where are you now, Sun? [09:19] <SunXia> well i have to download them and i prefer doing it image by image [09:19] <SunXia> so im doing whatever ones i have then downloading more [09:20] <The Shining Star> So...what do you have done right now, then? [09:20] <Aeron Solo> So what you're saying is, you're putting a bunch together over time [09:20] <Aeron Solo> Am I right? [09:25] <SunXia> yeah [09:26] <SunXia> i've started doing it via image sequences rather than straight to GIFs so the sizes arent so big to upload [09:27] <The Shining Star> What does GIF stand for, anyway? (classic The Shining Star stupidity) [09:33] <The Shining Star> Giant Inflated Football? (More stupidity) [09:33] <SunXia> Graphical Interchange Format [09:35] <SunXia> allows animated images [09:43] <The Shining Star> Oh. [09:47] <The Shining Star> Fan Service. [09:47] <The Shining Star> I don't know why, but I feel like trolling God right now. [09:47] <SunXia> please dont trolling isnt nice [09:48] <SunXia> sort of against the rules [09:49] <The Shining Star> Oh. Oops. Okay, how about ANNOYING God? :3 [09:49] <The Shining Star> If I remember correctly, God's playing TF2 right now... [10:01] <Godisme> Hi Blossomofdeath, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [10:06] <SunXia> why are you wanting to annoy him [10:06] <SunXia> right i think thats another gif done, think gunna change rukia's gif for Hakuren because i think its too short and not emphasizing the ice part [10:10] <Godisme> Hi Blossomofdeath, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [10:17] <The Shining Star> I feel like annoying God because I'm bored :3 [10:17] <The Shining Star> Okay, time to start pinging God like crazy! [10:17] <The Shining Star> ...nah, I'm bored doing even that. I think I'll leave. Later people. [10:20] <Godisme> gahhh, splitting headache [10:25] <SunXia> tell me about it [10:55] <Godisme> Hi Dark Seeker Kotsu, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [10:55] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Hey everyone [10:58] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> *sees above conversation* [10:59] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> ....Poor God [11:04] <SunXia> hey you hows things [11:06] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> Good [11:06] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> My wiki's getting off the ground now [11:06] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> New policies make it even better [11:09] <SunXia> new policies?? [11:09] <SunXia> can i see ?? [11:09] <SunXia> making gifs i have a list lol [11:16] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'll show you when I'm done [11:16] <Dark Seeker Kotsu> I'm adding on to it