User talk:SerialSniper14

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Image policy
Hi. Thanks for adding the image of Kenryu's shikai. However, as set out in our Image Policy, all images from the anime/manga should have and  templates added to them. Please add these to your image, filling in the details as best you can. The image policy should give all the information you need, but if you have any questions then feel free to ask myself or another admin. Thank you. -- Yyp  (Talk)  19:30, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Referencing Project
The project itself is actually run by a group called the "Policy & Standards Committee", so it seems to be their page. I didn't see it at the time I reverted your edit there, but Morpheus did it too. I think the page itself is actually something they're using to help them determine which pages need references; I don't think you should have to put your name on it, since you're not a part of the committee (Morpheus, on the other hand, is). Still, it helps to reference pages, so you did help out a lot. Thanks for improving Hanza's page. Arrancar109 (Talk)  07:38, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

I might take a look at the articles later to see if anything needs to be checked, so I'd leave it alone anyway. You never know, something could have been missed; either a reference, or something not yet added onto the article itself until later. Arrancar109 (Talk)  08:18, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Actually in this case SerialSniper14 did the right thing. When the committee is running the projects we do ask that everyone who decides to help us, including non-committee members, put their name next to projects and let us know how they are getting along with the project. This is so we don't start working on something that's already been done etc, etc. So SerielSniper14 you did the right thing and thanks for choosing to help us. However, because that project is new we haven't decided when we can declare the referencing of a page as "complete". So might I suggest that when you have done all you can, just put down the status *needs checking for completion*. I'll put something in the page explaining what's going on. Once again, thank you for helping. Tinni 09:11, December 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright, I clarified everything. Sorry again for the confusion. The project is new and so we are still getting our bearing. Once again, thanks for helping and I hope you will continue to assist us with the referencing project. Tinni 09:25, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Okay great! Thanks for clarifying everything, I definitely feel less like a noob. :P I'll contribute what I can to the articles in need of help. --SerialSniper14 13:00, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Alrighty, I checked up on Demora's page. The referencing format you used seems a tad bit odd and confusing, but seems fairly accurate. I went ahead and corrected the format, but that's not why I'm here. I actually looked into your manga references and realized they're actually incomplete. When we reference manga chapters, we usually end up referencing the page numbers too. A manga page reference should look something like this:

That's how a manga reference should look. In regards to that, it's because it helps to specify when an ability is used, when a quote is said, etc. Also, you'll notice that I use double apostrophes around "Bleach" instead of  . That's because double apostrophes (not quotation marks) is a simpler method of italicizing text (triple apostrophes results in bold text). Just a little tip for the future. Hope this helped you out a bit. Arrancar109 (Talk)  20:43, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't it be more prudent then to reference things individually in a chapter? I mean if we put page numbers in the references then, in most cases, it would end up as "Chapter XXX, Pages 2-18" because of one small detail that happened in the beginning to something that happened at the end. Or if a quote take up an entire chapter. Just doesn't seem very helpful or anymore specific. SerialSniper14 00:12, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * You can go Pages2,5-8 is acceptable. Basically, references are there so that people can see what's happening for themselves. So it is best to give the most precise reference that's possible. Thanks again for your help. Tinni   (Talk)  00:23, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * On that note, should I mark page numbers with respect to their order in the wiki? i.e. (2.0 2.1 2.2) goes to Pages 3, 7-11, 5-6 SerialSniper14 00:28, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * I am a bit confused as to what you are asking. Compound references can only be used for the exact same reference. For exmaple, Demore punchs chad . Demore dies . You don't lump all of them together. Of course if Demore has something else in another part of his article that also needs to be referenced to chapter x, page 3-4 then you use the ref name="" function to reuse the same reference. Tinni   (Talk)  00:42, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * Now I'm confused. Look at the reference edits on Demōra's page. I separated Chapter 243 of the manga because they would have otherwise been garbled and just a bunch of page numbers, as they quotes occurred in different sentences. Also I ordered the page numbers with respect to the order of how things happened in the sentence. Is this acceptable? SerialSniper14 01:10, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

That seems fine. Tinni  (Talk)  01:34, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Hi SerialSniper14. Just wanted to say thanks for helping out with the references project and to try and clear up some confusion over the references. First, the Manual of Style gives examples of exactly how references should be styled, which seems to be how you are doing them, so that's fine. However, you are unnecessarily combining references that should not be combined and it is a bit confusing. A reference should be given for each individual point, rather than one reference for the whole paragraph that gives pages for each and every point in the paragraph. Also, about your use of the function, I think you would be best served to reference each thing individually and then once that is done, look back over them and see if any of the references are for the same page of the same chapter as another reference. Then combine those and only those using the. I think an example to illustrate what I mean might help, so this is from Demora's page.

It was:
 * Chad mocks Demōra's appearance without his mask and then renews the attack with another punch, but the Arrancar emerges and does not accept his defeat. He decides to use his most powerful attack by shooting his own tongue as a projectile against Chad, but Chad stops the attack after falling back a few meters and leaves the Arrancar stunned.

It should be:
 * Chad mocks Demōra's appearance without his mask and then renews the attack with another punch, but the Arrancar emerges and does not accept his defeat. He decides to use his most powerful attack by shooting his own tongue as a projectile against Chad, but Chad stops the attack after falling back a few meters and leaves the Arrancar stunned.

I hope that is useful. Please let me know if you have any questions. -- Yyp  (Talk)  23:54, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay I don't have a problem with doing that, I just thought you guys wanted them referenced by chapter with the pages grouped. SerialSniper14 00:04, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Either way though, I went ahead and finished up Demora's referencing, so all that's left is for Morpheus to verify it. Arrancar109 (Talk)  00:06, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Kusaka
They were revised; the trivia section by me when I undid your edit, and Yyp got the HTS4 article, right before you messaged me. Arrancar109 (Talk)  19:34, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

The Committee
Hello Serial, I am Minato. Anyway, I see u r making use of some of the Templates we have here. In regards to one of them, the Seeking Membership of the Committee. Nobody has contacted u about this, but we r considering u. U have shown that u r willing to help with projects and can get along with others. Tinni and I gave u Support and I'm sure Mohrpheus would also Support ur promotion. I just wanted to let u kno that. If u have any questions feel fre to ask me. Minato (Talk)  12:36, January 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your support, I'm growing to like this Wiki. And actually, I was really bored last night so I created that Seeking Membership template to stick on my user page. Nwang and TomServo could use it if they wanted, and I didn't see anything that says only admins could create templates, but if its a problem I can take it down. Looking forward to Judgment Day. :) SerialSniper14 18:26, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Its no prob. While creating Templates is not against any policy(that I am aware of)we do try to discourage it. I imagine(or atleast hope)that the Committee will have its members by the end of the month. At that point, the Template will be deleted. If the others would like to add that Template they can, but it is a Temp Template, so it serves no real purpose. Minato (Talk)  19:50, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Anime Summaries
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for helping with the Anime Summaries. I kno u have a bunch which u r waiting on for me to check, but it takes time. I am looking over them and fixing any errors, which r few and far between. I'll have the ones u wanted checked and moved to finished before the day is over. And thanks again. Minato (Talk)  14:41, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

And about the Omake Characters. They should not be in the Characters in Order of Appearence(CIOOA). Thats y the Omake section is on the ep page. Its for the same reason that in the Summary, we do not include the ep recap and the preview for the next ep. The Omake segment takes place after the ep has ended, ergo the omake character does not count if he/she only appeared here. I'll let Yyp kno and thank u for telling me bout that. If u see an Omake character in the CIOOA section, feel free to remove them from the section. Minato (Talk)  14:46, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I haven't done a episode summary in a while (Tomservo has taken over doing those), but when I was doing them, I did add the omake characters to the list, but I don't think I had started adding the omake summaries at that stage. With the omake summaries there now, I don't think there's any need for them to be listed in the order of appearance. Sorry for the confusion. -- Yyp  (Talk)  14:51, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I went back and removed the ones that I added, with the exception of Zaraki Kenpachi Approaches! because I wasn't sure if Minato88 was done editing that page. My minor edit could ruin his if he was making any edits simultaneously. SerialSniper14 14:55, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Policy & Standards Committee
As affirmed by the other Admin they agree with the nomination. You therefore have been made a lieutenant on the wiki and therefore now possess rollback rights (side note: please dont abuse it, otherwise the other admin will come down on your head with a wrath and take it away). Also you are now the 5th Seat of the Bleach Wiki:Policy & Standards Committee also reached through the community sidebar or just community page. Familiarize yourself with the additions on there as well as the Bleach Wiki:Policy and corresponding policies if you haven't already. so discussions are easier and have more room they can be had on the discussion page of the Policy & Standards Committee. Congrats. Salubri (Talk)  16:24, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Congrats and Archiving
Well, congrats on ur promotion. U r now a Lieutenant on Bleach Wikia and u can now display the on ur userpage if u want. Just reminding u that Rollback rights r for undoing vandalism, threatening comments, spoilers, or anything inappropriate. If it doesn't fit in these categories, then the undo feature is what should be used. Also, please remember to regularly check the Committee Talkpage for updates and conversations with the rest of the Committee.

Also, as a Lieutenant u will probably need the Archive feature in the future. Instructions can be found here and if u have any questions about Archiving, about the Committee, or anything, feel free to ask me, Tinni, or Mohrpheus. Minato (Talk)  16:58, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks! I look forward to helping you guys out with the various projects that we create and pursue. If I have any questions I'll let you know. SerialSniper14 17:29, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. I rolled back my own page to get a feel for the rollback function, and I now know that clicking the rollback button is an automatic action with no confirmation.

Re:Custom Sig
No the Custom sig is available to anyone who wants to use it.

SerialSniper14 (Talk)

Heres the code u use, I changed it to ur name so after u change the color code(if u want a diff color then mine)u can basically just copy and paste and it will work. Also, heres a link to the different colors u can choose from. Help:Color. The above codes "#FFD700" should be changed to the codes of the color u want. If u have any questions about it, feel free to ask me. Minato (Talk)  17:58, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Anime Summary Project
Hey Serial. I want to bring something to ur attention, incase u haven't seen it. Link. That will explain it. I am getting ready to go inactive for a few weeks, and I was wondering if u wouldn't mind temporarily taking over my the Anime Summary Project. If u don't want to, I can ask Tom. Anyway, could u please let me kno. Thank u. Minato  (Talk)  06:07, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

LOL, that was cool. :) Anyway, the projected finish date has already been met, with the exception of ep Overcome Your Limits!. The current arc finished eps r not linked to the Projected finish date. I should probably reword the sentence title of that section to something like "The eps here have been labeled as finished, but there could be grammatical errors and", etc." Anyway, all u need to do is what u have been. Use the Episodes page to get the name of the eps and add eps to the Current Arc when the list gets low. If u do not want to, u do not have to proofread the Current Arc finished eps and remove them from the section, u can just move finished ones there and I will get them when I get back. Thats basically it. If u run into a problem or feel u r getting alittle overwhelmed, just ask Tinni, Mohrpheus, Yyp, or another Seated Member or Admin for help. They will be more then happy to help u. Minato  (Talk)  06:15, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I will list myself as inactive on the Committee Page and on my userpage tomorrow afternoon, just over 12 hours from now. Oh, another user here named SalmanH is a Senior user and if u need assistance u can also go to him. Minato (Talk)  06:18, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay cool. I'm probably going to add a section to the project where I will put any episodes that need to checked and removed by the Project Leader only. That way you can view the progress of the project when you return, and we should be well into the Bount arc by that point in time. Eveything will be well in hand by the time you return. SerialSniper14 (Talk)  06:27, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

If you run into any trouble with the project, just shout and I'll see what I can do for ya. -- Yyp  (Talk)  11:24, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Given the new arrangement, I'll put a tag next to your name on the committee page saying you are affiliated with the anime summary project. Tomservo101, the other new committee members, mainly helps out with the anime summary project as well. Don't hesitate to call on him if you need anything. Tinni  (Talk)  11:40, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re Computer
If not then you must be a linux user correct?-- SalmanH  (Talk)  03:34, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ha no, I was simply making "Mac vs Windows" humor. I'm a PC. SerialSniper14 (Talk)  03:41, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah forgot about that part.-- SalmanH  (Talk)  12:00, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ichimaru Gin
Just to let you know, his hair colour is silver and his eyes are blue. His hair has a purple tint in the anime but per his name (Gin means silver in Japanese) his hair is most definetly silver and his eyes were shown to be blue on the manga cover of volume 20. Tinni  (Talk)  00:29, January 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah so it's a manga difference. So should we add a comment that notes the differences between the manga and anime? Because his eyes are, without question, red in the anime (good screenshot in episode 48). SerialSniper14  (Talk)  00:34, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

The fact that his eyes are not consistently coloured (it's yellow in the games) has been noted multiple times in his article, including his appearance section. My personal opinion is that the colour of his eyes that should be included in his little info box is "blue" from the manga because manga info trumps anime info. I have done just that and added a reference (both for his hair and eyes) to the coloured picture of him on the cover of volume 20. I also inserted a picture of his face extracted from the volume cover in the appearance section. This should help readers visually see the difference between the manga and the anime. I personally think that is enough and we don't need to cluther up the info box mentioning the variations of his eye colour. Tinni  (Talk)  00:55, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Acknowledged. It would be nice if people actually collaborated when they make these things. SerialSniper14 (Talk)  01:43, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Editing
Actually when I made that edit the reference should have still been there just at the end of the new information I put. If I did accidently remove it though I'm sorry and I'll try to be more careful next time.

Re:Images
I don't know why this is important to you, but basically, the original format of wikis in general was Image. Why it changed is beyond me, but it's the format we've always used here. The underscore thing is more of a personal preference. I'm probably the only one who would actually bother to change it, but only if I edit the article for other reasons; I'm not going to go change it out of the blue if there is nothing else on the article that needs attention. Arrancar109 (Talk)  08:49, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * While I'm at it, I might as well as tell you about the different translation templates, as some newer users have (probably accidentally) been inserting a list-styled translation template, which is something we don't use here. This would be the template:


 * It's not showing up the way I was intending it to, but there are "Enter" spaces between each number.

This template is newer, but it is also a lot more confusing when it is used. The older template (which is the one we do use), looks more like this:.

This one is less confusing and has been inserted in most of the articles anyway before that newer, list-like template started appearing. It doesn't seem like you've used a translation template yet, but if you do, and if it for some reason looks like the list template (again, some of the newer users claim it to be unintentional), then let one of the administrators know and we can change it to the correct template. Arrancar109 (Talk)  17:21, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Templates
Hey, just to let you know. The template change is Salibur's thing and so when someone other then Salibur makes the template change, it usually get's reverted. Basically the decision was made to leave it to Salibur to do the change. At least for the major characters. Tinni  (Talk)  17:38, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article, Picture, etc.
No anyone can nominate an article, add a picture or a quote. Only thing is that the article has to be of a character that has been recently featured, with pictures and quotes needing to come from chapters published this month. So in this case 387, 388 and 389. 390 would also qualify as it will be out before the voting deadline ends and with enough time to allow people to switch their votes if they want to. Tinni  (Talk)  01:29, January 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, just wanted to add that the picture, quotes can come from the anime too. Likewise, if the character has been featured in the anime, their article qualifies as well. Sorry, didn't mean to imply that only the manga counts. ^.^ Tinni   (Talk)  01:31, January 26, 2010 (UTC)