User blog comment:Lia Schiffer/404: Deicide 6/@comment-1454424-20100522184533

Many thing said on this page about Gin displeases me. Trying to lessen the evilness of Gin's deeds is bit silly. In the course of the story, Gin did three things that were most definitely evil and they did leave an impact on the individuals involved.

Firstly, he put Hitsugaya in a position where when Hitsugaya instinctively dodged a very slow Shinso at point blank range, Shinso headed towards Hinamori and would have skewered her if Matsumoto didn't show-up. Does Gin have anything person against Hinamori? Absolutely not. Hinamori wasn't important, Hitsugaya was the true target of Gin's manoeuvring. If Hitsugaya had realised that Hinamori was behind him and him dodging Shinso would put Hinamori in danger, Hitsugaya wouldn't have dodged. Having dodged, had Gin succeeded, Hitsugaya would have been shattered from the experience - as he was when Aizen tricked him into impaling Hinamori. Why Gin has something Hitsugaya is anyone guess, maybe Gin took offence at Hitsugaya threatening him, maybe he doesn't like how much Rangiku seems to care about Hitsugaya, maybe Hitsugaya broke some record Gin set in the Shinigami Academy and now Gin hates Hitsugaya but whatever it is, Gin tried to do something utter evil with Hitsugaya and Hinamori. Just because he didn't succeed, doesn't mean he get's a pass on the evilness of his intention.

Secondly, there was the case of Rukia. I myself didn't realise it until I get volume 30, but along with everything Gin did to Rukia during the Soul Society Arc, it was Gin who manipulated the corridors and lead Rukia to Esapda no. 9 and thus arranged for her to once again come face to face with Kaien. Gin told Ulquoirra that he hated sad stories but that was just his double speak and he clear intended for Rukia to die and die after realising her utter failure in regards to Kaien, i.e. she couldn't even save his spirit body from falling to hollows. Why is Gin so fixated on Rukia? Probably because Rukia is afraid of him. Distrusts him. Similar to Wonderweiss, in whose suffering Gin seems to take pleasure as well, Gin probably likes torturing Rukia because she doesn't like him. Sort of like, he screws with her because he can screw with her. But it still doesn't make what he does to her any less evil.

Then there is a whole bifurcation of Hiyori. Gin's most random act to date! As far as I know, Gin has nothing personal against Hiyori. So whatever he did to Hiyori was either, as I said, a random act of violence or Gin was getting back at Shinji. Shinji was Gin's old captain and so it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Gin has a grudge again Shinji. For all we know the grudge could be that Shinji didn't look out for Gin and let Gin fall in with Aizen. But whichever way, he did cut Hiyori in half and it is an act that cannot be discounted.

But as sadistic as Gin's actions are, to say that he is less redeemable then Tosen is just plain wrong. Tosen might have been a foot soldier of the meanest kind who only followed Aizen's orders and whose blind, pun intended, devotion to Aizen caused him to leap to Aizen's defence against Shinji but he is still a selfish, hypocrite who got exactly what he deserved and a little more then he deserved because he most certainly didn't deserve to be forgiven by Komamura and Hisagi, or mourned by them.

Tosen knew, deep down he knew, that all his actions were motivated by vengeance, yet he had the gal to equate it to justice. Even has he was leaving Soul Society, he told Komamura he was walking the path of justice. In addition, his path of vengeance was self-serving to the extreme because the friend he was trying to avenge did not seem like a person who would approve of what he did. Remember, she loved the Gotei 13 and believed in them. We also don't know exactly what transpired between her and her husband or why Room 46 made the decision they did. For all we know her husband was deeply remorseful and based on that Room 46 chose not to execute him. That happens in RL too. Repentant criminals who are deemed to pose no further risk to society get reduced sentences and yes, sometimes the victims friends and family do not approve of the reduced sentences. But that doesn't mean that they should work to violently overthrow the government and the rule of law. Which is exactly what Tosen did.

In addition, please show me one thing Tosen has done that redeems him? What redeeming thing has Tosen ever done? He treated Hisagi well enough but that wasn't out of the ordinary. Aizen was more then kind to Hinamori. That's hardly redeeming.

On the other hand, Gin's redeeming characteristic has name and boobs! Gin saving Rangiku was a act of utter selflessness. I mean, its not like Gin shared his food with Rangiku once and was then on his way. The most evil person in the world may still do random acts of kindness like drop a $100 bill on the plate of a begger and then promptly forget having done it. But Gin kept Rangiku with him after saving her. Watched out for her. Pretty much spend his entire pre-Gotei 13 life looking after her. Tosen has no such equivalent story.

On top of that, Gin's parting words when he left Soul Society was "Sorry". He didn't give a speech about how he wanted to be god or how he was justice, he just said goodbye to his friend and begged her forgiveness. Tosen did not hesitate to kill Komamura or strike at Hisagi. Tosen didn't even care that Hisagi was present in the battle field. I mean, even Aizen reacted when he sense Hinamori in the battle field. Sure it was mostly surprise that she still lived but at least he acknowledged her! Gin of course, said that he was happy to see Kira was doing well. Again, because it is Gin we can't really take his words at face value. But what we can take at face value is that Gin was keeping tabs on Kira, enough to detect subtle changes in his reiatsu. Tosen couldn't even be bothered to keep track of Hisagi while they were freaking fighting!

It is possible to make the argument that Tosen never considered even Komamura a friend and only put up with him for the sake of keeping up appearances. Which really makes Tosen an obnoxious git but that's a highly speculative argument. Tosen shed a tear before he died. We have to take the tear at face value cause Tosen's gone and we aren't going to know for sure if he even cared.

Of course there is a lot of mystery about Gin as well. Some of it will hopefully be cleared up soon. But all said an done, Gin > Tosen.

As for Gin's powers and ability, Gin's a certified genius with a simple but deadly zanpakuto and stats that reveal him to be an all-round fighter. To even compare him to the trash that was the Espada, especially the super trash that was no. 8 Espada, is an insult of epic proportions.