Talk:Shinigami

whole or most
in the substitute shinigam section it says that gave all her power to ichigo whereas in the anime it says she gave most of it to him enabling her to still use low level kido.Karan8 19:15, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

The section is correct this site goes from the manga which is written and drawn by Kubo himself and therefore the actual information. In the manga Rukia specifically states that Ichigo was supposed to get half her power but he ends up taking all her power. So the information is correct and is referenced to that point. Salubri (Talk)  20:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

but then how does rukia use kido or is it because her powers are coming back?Karan8 20:19, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yoruichi exiled?
Where in bleach does it say that Yoruichi is exiled? If anyone could give me a link to prove that she was exiled that would be great. Yoruichi shunko (talk) 10:05, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reincarnation
I've been reading almost everywhere about Shinigami being reincarnated into humans. I'm guessing this is speculation/justification for Ichigo/Kaien stuff, right. マルセロ - Marcelo (Talk) 20:47, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Indeed it is speculation. When a Shinigami dies, their spirit particles become part of the Soul Society itself (if I'm not mistaken). Kaien was an exception because his soul traveled to Hueco Mundo with the Hollow Metastacia, with whom it was merged, and it was later consumed by Aaroniero. So no, Ichigo is not Kaien's reincarnation and Shinigami don't reincarnate into humans. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  20:54, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think there is a miscommunication here about something that should be obvious knowledge. The manga never simply says this but the the databook souls specifically states that "Once a soul has spent a certain amount of time in the Soul Society, it is reborn into the human world." Therefore considering that the entire concept of death in bleach is based upon a reincarnation model that even in spiritual death this is true. So either two options regardless of whether you die of old age or battle wounds or simply disappear when your time is up there, you are reborn into the world of the living or if you die as a spirit you simply turn into spirit particles and become part of soul society. Neither instance has been elaborated on. In any case Shinigami are still souls and are subject to those same laws that govern normal souls despite their higher spiritual level. --Salubri (Talk)  21:02, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

I knew souls were reborn to the human world, but I think it was Rukia who said Shinigami who died became part of Soul Society, so I assumed it was just souls who inhabit in the Rukongai the ones subject to this "reincarnation" cycle. But as you said, it has not been really elaborated into, so I'm not sure Lia Schiffer   (Talk)  21:08, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Lia may be right. Well, thanks for clearing it up. Of course the Kaien part I already knew it, I'm not one of those fans :P

Nah, really. Thanks マルセロ - Marcelo (Talk) 21:28, October 11, 2010 (UTC)