Talk:Retsu Unohana

Most Beautiful?
Is there any reference for the statement in the first paragraph about her being considered one of the most beautiful women in Soul Society and having many suitors? Like a chapter or a page from one of the databooks? Because if not, it's really just fanon window dressing, and the kind of thing that we ought to eschew.


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Years's Captain
I changed 2000 years to 200 per Captain Kyoraku's remark in Chapter -108: "I mean, the only remnants of the original guard from a century ago is the old man, Ukitake, and me." Ukitake replies: "you're missing one. Captain Unohana as well." This conversation takes place 100 years before the main events. That means that he refers to the composition of Captains at 200 years before the main events. This also means that at that time, only 4 captains were the same as at the time of the main events: Yamamoto, Ukitake, Kyoraku and Unohana. It is known that Yamamoto founded the Academy 2000 years ago, but the others certainly became captains later. Domlith 14:23, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That statement did not mean that they had only started serving 200 years before. Just that they were there with other captains who do not appear in the Pendulum arc. And since Yamamoto founded the academy 2000 years before, it's highly unlikely that the first captains took 1800 years to graduate.

Well,it's higly recomanded in the Manga that Unohana was already captain' when Kyoraku and Ukitake became, but I don't remember exactly...

Thing I exactly remember is that Kyoraku and Ukitake were the FIRST students(or atleast, captains students) of the Academy, and if they say that Unohana was here before them, tough that she's here for over 2000 years^^..Mili-Cien

I will look it up properly, but I think that they were the first students who became captains - Unohana could be older, but became captain later. HOWEVER, I will look it up. (and a sidenote: this implies, that captains were just appointed before by birthright or other merits, like the members of the Kuchiki clan to captain of the 6th, because there had to be other captains of the 13 divisions at the same time or prior to their promotion. One wonders that there had to be Shinigami even before the foundation of the Academy, then how did they train?). Domlith 19:00, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

There Was Yama-Ji before, there is 2 way : Or they discovered it by their own way(Zanpakutôh)/Or their was a royal guard, like now, but with few shinigamis, or there is another way, but I tough that Unohana is the second captain ^^. 19:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


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''It says that she has been a captain for over 200 years. This should be 2000.''

==) Done it yesterday ;) Mili-Cien


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Shikai Sourcing
Just to be more near the Manga or the Anime, does anyone remember when did Unohana used her shikai for the first time, and stopped it ? Mili-Cien 20:03, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

It was episode 52 or 54 i think in the anime. Salubri 20:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Think I solved it, thanks to a diligent fellow on OneManga forums. It maybe incorrect, feel free to check it. Domlith 20:36, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

It's sort of strange but basically we never see Unohana release. All we see is Isane regaining consciousness at the start of chp. 154 with Unohana on top of Minazuki, they land and she reseals it. It is her Shikai, we just don't know the means she releases it. -StrangerAtaru 01:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I always thought that was her bankai, thats one ridiculously powerfull shikai!!--Spenuela 15:48, 22 January 2009 (UTC)Spenuela

Unless there is actual proof either way it is probably best to go with shikai, as its highly unlikely to bring out a bankai before anyones seen the shikai and she uses it often enough. Plus its not so powerful it just heals people in its stomach and carries them on its back.Salubri 03:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


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I honestly think it would be best to consider it a Bankai. We know that Bankai in all but one circumstance comes out as a very large being/object with a separate body. However, we've yet to see any Shikai that releases to such a large entity. I suppose it can be contested that Byakuya, Genryuu, and Komamura all had large Shikai as well, but I don't think they can be considered the same. (One was a field of extremely tiny blades instead of a single large entity, one was a mass field of flames that could just have been an extension of spiritual pressure, and one was a single body part just sort of appearing. Unohana's is a very large entity all of its own.) Does anybody have a better argument of it being a Shikai rather than "It's just better to assume so"? I'm not trying to start a big argument here. I just think this seriously deserves some consideration. ShadowDragoonFTW 22:54, 10 July 2009

Notes and Reference
Notes and Reference # 3 on Unohana doesnt exist. It merely shows the battle between kenpachi and Ichigo.

That is chapter -108 (minus 108), a flashback chapter, and not chapter 108, which you mean (and where Kenpachi and Ichigo battle). And please sign your posts. Domlith 11:30, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


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Candies
One of the trivia tidbits mentions she likes candies. Does anyone know where this is shown? I've seen a segment where she asks for make up (though maybe the subs were wrong). A chapter number or episode number would be greatly appreciated! Strategist9 03:36, 7 July 2009 (UTC)