Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner

The Translation Corner is a place where a group of users can get together and help maintain the wiki by keeping it up to date on the actual translations of the various names, abilities, techniques and etc. found in the Bleach Universe.

Associate Members

 * Adam Restling (Japanese)
 * MarqFJA (Japanese)
 * Lia Schiffer (Spanish)

References & Sources

 * Kanji-to-English:
 * Tangorin
 * Mahou Kanji Dictionary
 * Kanji Networks
 * OldNihongo.J-Talk.Com
 * Basic Japanese verbal data: The imperative inflection of Japanese verbs

'B' Station track titles
If you guys ever have a chance, could you check out the 'B' Station Soundtrack section of the music article (Music) and translate some of the non-english portions of the track titles. There is a decent amount there so you could just do small amounts whenever you have a chance or something. Thanks. The Shadow Dragon (talk) 20:04, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Purgatory Co, Mayuri's Magical Clinic and Kuchiki Manor
Thanks guys. The Seireitei article looks really good now. However, poor Purgatory Co is now the odd one out as it doesn't have the proper kanji. Can you guys see if you obtain the kanji from the above? Also, can you also see about the getting the kanji, romanji and translation for Mayuri's Magical Clinic? We should probably mention that Mayuri runs that from squad 12 barracks. Tinni  (Talk)  04:30, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

PS. I moved almost everything but the couple of discussions that were new or not addressed to the archive to get this page to a manageable size. If you looking for something and can't find it. Please try the archives. Tinni  (Talk)  04:30, August 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * "Purgatory" is 煉獄 (Rengoku). --Reikson (talk) 05:10, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks but I do need the full kanji, romanji and maybe lit translation. I also need the Kanji for the Kuchiki manor for the new Kuchiki Family Manor article. I have found a picture showing the kanji. Please see what you guys can do. Tinni  (Talk)  08:37, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Kishi
Could you guys do the translation for Kishi (器子) for the Important Terms page? Thanks. The Shadow Dragon (talk) 23:32, August 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * An object that receives... a container? Adam, I'm stumped. Over to you. --Reikson (talk) 23:44, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Kishi seems to be the material/corporeal analog to the spiritual/ethereal reishi (at least in Urahara's usage), i.e. the former are the basic elements of flesh bodies and the latter are the basic elements of the bodies of spiritual beings like the Soul Reapers. 器 most often means "vessel, container" or "conduit, medium," while 子 "child" is often also used as just as noun suffix (similarly to English -ling, -let); thus, as I would translate reishi as "soullet(s)," I would translate kishi as maybe "holdlet(s)" (that is, small hold[ing]s or container[s]).

I wish I'd had more time to review the huge slew of entries that just got recently archived for proofreading purposes, but I guess their being archived means I missed my chance. Trying to translate the section on Troop 0 broke my brain. Adam Restling (talk) 05:35, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Troop 0? Links? You mean Squad 0, the Royal Guard? --Reikson (talk) 11:21, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I believe he is talking about the Royal Guard, I think it's something from MASKED. Also if you want to review them, I'm sure you could always just move them back from the archive if you want. I doubt anyone would mind (or you could just make a new section here for your comments on them). The Shadow Dragon (talk) 14:56, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Since Reishi seem to have been English-dubbed as "Spiritrons", a comparable translation of Kishi might be "Physitrons", or "Materi(tr)ons". Awkward, I know, but that's the best that I can come up with. MarqFJA (talk) 11:27, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

MASKED
For some semblance of order, I am putting all masked related stuff in this section. Tinni  (Talk)  05:59, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nnoitra's last name
OK, so a new user changed all the "Jiruga" in the article to "Gilga". As reference he left this address:. If you look at the bottom right corner you can just make out the name Nnoitra Gilga. I also posted this in his discussion page with a circle around the relevant area. It appears to be a scan from some official Bleach source and doesn't seem photoshopped to my untrained eye. WD  Talk to me  19:14, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hot damn!!! Sorry for the effusive enthusiasm, but they just announced the pending release (in August) of the long awaited new BLEACH character book, Masked, which will finally (I *hope*) give us official spellings of the Arrancar by covering them and the Visored!! This looks to feature the cover of the new guidebook, and could that be a sneak peek of the *true* spelling of Nnoitra's surname? Too soon to be sure, but this jazzes me up something fierce :) ! Finally, dare I to hope, shall we get the official romanizations? Adam Restling (talk) 23:28, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Komamura: Shikai
Sajin Komamura's shikai command is given as 轟け in Masked. When I checked, the first kanji on its own means roar, but the second means something else, so can I please get confirmation that it is accurate. Thanks, 10:27, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * The two symbols translate as Todoroke; the second symbol depicts an imperative inflection, essentially a command. In this case, the phrase Komamura uses to activate his shikai is a command to Tenken to roar.
 * Just, literally, "Roar!" --Reikson (talk) 12:46, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clearing that up. 12:54, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Didn't Komamura's article have "Todoroke" as the Shikai command long ago before it was removed due to lack of official basis? Coincidence? Or is Kubo trolling our forums? XD MarqFJA (talk) 13:28, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, back then we only knew it came from a game, and our policy states we can't use that as canon material, especially since some games have inaccurate portrayal of the manga-canon characters. Arrancar109 (Talk)  17:01, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hado #73
According to User:Urie12, this page from masked says that Soren Sokatsui is Hado #73 and not 63 which would finally put this debate to rest. Can you confirm this?--God (Pray)  21:14, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

The kanji preceding Souren Soukatsui in the Kidou list depicted in the image provided clearly says "Hadou no Nanajuusan", which is literally "Seventy-Third of the Way of Destruction". I believe this evidence that Kubo has made another retcon, in the same vein as he did with Proyectil Azul (now Ola Azul). MarqFJA (talk) 21:56, August 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'll make the change then. 22:04, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

MASKED Databook: New Characters
I realize that this is a lot of work, but can we please get details (particularly confirmation on the spelling of names) on these new characters revealed in the new character book Masked. Also, please see Bleach Wiki:Masked Project and Bleach Wiki talk:Masked Project for an awful lot of name change issues caused by the databook (look at your own risk). 22:32, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Forgive any errors for this prelim:

Love's VC was Jinemon Kotsubaki (小椿刃右衛門 Kotsubaki Jinemon) (I think intimated as Sentarou's father/relative???); this one is weird since it seems like it's missing a furigana.

The graph 衛, usu. read ei, means "protection," and seems to be combined with the preceding 右 "right-hand; help, save (? < "offer the right hand") to reinforce this sense (just as in Iba's first name, Tetsuzaemon). However, found the answer: the sequence (右)衛門 -emon itself seems clearly inspired by names like that of the famous Japanese folk hero Goemon Ishikawa.

Rose's VC was Chikane Iba (射場千鉄 Iba Chikane) (Tetsuzaemon's crabby mother???; the same element tetsu, kane "iron, strong" appears in both!)

The previous Kenpachi was Kiganjou (鬼厳城); his former name was Gosuke (五助)

Ginrei's VC was Soujun Kuchiki (朽木蒼純 Kuchiki Soujun) (his son[-in-law]???/Byakuya's father???)

Unohana's VC was (as expected) Seinosuke Yamada (Hanatarou's elder brother/father???)

Yoruichi's VC was Marenoshin Oomaeda (大前田希ノ進 Oomaeda Marenoshin) (Oomaeda's father???)

Kanji to follow when I have more time (read: after someone beats my pathetic ass to doing it :( XD). And forgive my ignorance of other data books, which may already have mentioned these characters, thus making look like a dupe for not having heard of them ;). Adam Restling (talk) 03:52, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Adam, about Kotsubaki... I ran into something like this before; the two kanji symbols with the furigana directly above the space in-between the two of them is supposed to indicate that the pronunciation is supposed to read as Jinemon, but when it's written with kanji, Jinemon's name has... four (?) symbols in it. --Reikson (talk) 04:06, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, 'tis a rare sight to see that much of a gap :). EDIT: Okay, I found out why; it's after Goemon Ishikawa (see above). Adam Restling (talk) 01:36, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Bleach Masked scans
Here is some scans from that new Bleach databook. Of course I have no idea what they say. Hisagi9 00:53, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

More Bleach Masked Scans
Here is two more pages from the new Masked book, though I'm not sure if there is anything new about the Zero Division. I still wonder what they say. Hisagi9 (talk) 18:20, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I did the one for Troop 13:

Juushirou Ukitake

current: same

"Well... this place certainly is so like you."

Troop #13 organization chart

past/present

captain: Juushirou Ukitake

vice-captain: vacant

Juushirou Ukitake who, together with Kyouraku, was the first of the graduates of the "Shinou Reijutsuin" ("true-center soul-technique school") founded by All-captain Yamamoto to be inaugurated as a captain. Formerly he bound his long hair, although only so it was like to a single bundle. His vice-captaincy is a vacant post. Ukitake and those around him support a superior seated officer, Kaien Shiba...

While drinking tea on the veranda, Ukitake prods Kaien concerning his desire to be vice-captain. Though he continues to be refused, Ukitake doesn't give up.

Hopefully that's all pretty correct, and I didn't make any true flubs. The quote from Ukitake signifies that the place/location is "so like [the person he's talking to] (to choose)." It re-iterates how he and Kyouraku were the first graduates of Yamamoto's school to become captains. The prodding of Kaien by Ukitake re: vice-captain" would seem to just mean "about Kaien's desire to remain a vice-captain and not be promoted to captain. Adam Restling (talk) 18:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Troop 0 coming soon! Adam Restling (talk) 18:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * The Troop 0 stuff doesn't seem to be all that enlightening, either. Mostly it seemed to retread what we already know: they're associated with the royal family; members are promoted out of the Court Guard into it; it's a "specially-tasked/elite corps/unit (tokumu butai)"; the captain and vice-captain of it are wholly unknown (at present). Adam Restling (talk) 04:54, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Kubo's comments on new characters
I uploaded the two pages from Kubo's interview in which he comments on the new characters. It would be a great if we could get a general gist of what Kubo is saying for their profiles. Thanks. Tinni  (Talk)  17:44, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Menos Grande
I was wondering if you guys could compare what is stated in the Menos Grande page (pic above) and compare it with the Unnamed Hollow (Chapter 184)A & Unnamed Hollow (Chapter 184)B pages. I'm curious if it confirms this character to be an Arrancar or not and also if it indicates whether it is one character with two bodies or two separate entities. Thanks, 21:27, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be anything about either one of these Hollows being a Arrancar, not even a pseudo-Arrancar. The text does seem to note that these particular "Menos Grande" do differ from the usu. "black-formed" Menos Grande (i.e. the pointy-nosed, lumbering Gillian we all know and love) but, nevertheless, they and the standard-appearance Menos Grande/Gillian are apparently one in the same "race." It does also cite something to the effect that these Menos Grande are unique in that their true form is actually the two such Hollows united.

Maybe the reason for this "differing form" is that these are examples of Gillian who retained enough of an intellect that (if Ryuuken hadn't slain them) they could've further evolved up through the Menos ranks--note how the chapter "Historia de Pantera y su Sombras (I think it was) showed that these higher-intellect Gillian can look quite different from their bestial brethren; but any such conjecture (at least with what their page here tells us) is pure speculation at this point. Adam Restling (talk) 05:08, September 8, 2010 (UTC)