User talk:Xilinoc

Welcome
Hi there, I'm Xilinoc, a chat moderator and member of the Policy and Standards Committee here on Bleach Wiki. Feel free to ask me anything about anything, be polite, and remember to sign your posts with four ~ so I can properly respond to you. Thanks in advance.--Xilinoc (talk) 00:31, February 7, 2020 (UTC)

Renames
Just FYI there is no need to rename pages to take out spaces or apostrophies. Specifically the top two files in the move log from yesterday, DDRYuzuKarinCry.png too. They were fine as they were and were easier to read too. I just dont want the recent changes clogged up with unneccessary renames as its hard enough to see whats happening on RC without them when there are so many renames/uploads flooding it. 09:58, November 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * Not a problem if they are done like that in the first place, just no need to change them if they arent. Thanks 21:32, November 18, 2019 (UTC)

Adjuchas
Yes the green Adjuchas with the large arms and killed first did have a name. I think it started with an M, but in the English Dub his name is give not like in the Sub title version say "He was killed." Darkmachines (talk)

Can you help me? Do you know anyway to get unbanned from the Discord please? Darkmachines (talk)

Hey I just want to say Keep the awesome work up doing the color manga pictures. I'm very excited when you can get to the Arrancars! Darkmachines (talk)

I'm calling it. In about two months you be at the Arrancar Arc in the magna. I need to tell you for the Arrancars half of them barely have any manga pictures. Darkmachines (talk)

Kanae
Hello, Xilinox. I just wanted to know why you felt the need to undo my edit on Kanae Katagiri's page since, as far as I'm aware, I hadn't done anything wrong. All I did was change instances of her last name into her first so that it would match other character pages. For example; if you go to Uryu's page and look at every section (appearance, personality, etc.) it all reads the same "Uryu is a..." "Uryu has a..." etc. So then why does it refer to Kanae as "Katagiri" for most parts on her page (there's some instances of her first name being used towards the bottom) when it should be "Kanae" seeing in how that's her first name. My apologies if I'm overlooking something.. ^^; --ParanoiaGod69 (talk) 20:36, January 27, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me, but now I'm even more confused on what to do. You mentioned Toshiro's page as one of your examples for a character being described with their last name only, but after a quick glance at his page I can see multiple instances where he is referred to as "Toshiro" with one sentence and then the very next he's "Hitsugaya"—there's many inconsistencies riddled throughout his page that could cause confusion for someone who isn't familiar with his character yet those remain untouched. I don't know, I just thought it made more sense to refer to a character as their first name rather than their family name since that is their name (I understand it wouldn't cause confusion on Kanae's page since there isn't any other characters with the last name "Katagiri", but I've always preferred using first names when describing a character even if it isn't what most people are used to—it's still their name, after all.)

On the topic of Shunsui, however, if I'm not mistaken (I may be, it's been quite some time since I've read Bleach, mind you) most of the characters referred to him as "Kyoraku", right? So then, shouldn't his page follow the same pattern that you have going?

Sorry for wasting your time with another message, I'm just really confused. --ParanoiaGod69 (talk) 23:23, January 27, 2020 (UTC)

Nurse Roka profile pic
Hey, as you may have noticed, I started working on Roka Paramia for various reasons. Now, thing is, she is actually a canon character, as she is the unnamed nurse that reattached Yammy's arm (and survived apparently). So I was wondering if you could perhaps find a decent anime or colored manga pic of her to use as her profile instead. Timjer (talk) 13:53, February 3, 2020 (UTC)


 * Well, it's something at least. More than what most novel characters can say. Thanks. P.S.: While I don't mind Roka as an OC, I indeed wonder why she had to be that one shot background character that was (apparently) killed off per se... Afaik, she could still have worked in the story as someone fully new, but I'm not a professional writer.Timjer (talk) 16:15, February 3, 2020 (UTC)


 * It may be your bias, yes, but it does cross over with my biggest complaint: Narita's tendency to make filler stuff canon one way or another. From the Dark Ones to Muramasa to Ashido Kanō (though that one is forgivable by itself)... Kinda feels uneccesary because the fillers were the weakest part of the anime IMO.Timjer (talk) 16:54, February 3, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Template Recoding
Turns out it was a problem on the pages themselves. They both had "title" instead of "name" listed on the page so the template just ignored it. Ive changed both of them. Im sure itll turn out to be listed like that all over the place but its not something to worry about as the pagename works in our favour there. But if we go down this EU tab path well need to remember it change it on those pages as we go. That is assuming they need to have an infobox at all. Makes sense with Roka, but Im not sold on Rukia right now. 21:34, February 8, 2020 (UTC)
 * Not sure what that would add to an infobox that isnt already on it? 22:44, February 8, 2020 (UTC)

Arm Lose
What Jidanbo lost his arm in the Manga! O_O I never knew that! Darkmachines (talk)

Katen Kyōkotsu manga pics
Hey, as part of my "experiment" on Katen Kyōkotsu's page to seperate manga and EU, I was wondering if you could find some decent colored Manga pics to use as their profile pics? I'm asking because it doesn't really feel right to use EU filler pics, even if they're anime, as part of the canon section. Timjer (talk) 19:41, February 11, 2020 (UTC)

Requesting color image of Gerard
I'm assuming you have all the colored scans. Could you fetch me a full body crop of the bottom panel of chapter 647, page 10? I'm thinking of making a table for the Soul King's parts but using Gerard's super small crop of his face looks...weird. Lightning Laxus (talk) 18:13, February 12, 2020 (UTC)

Actual pic of Mimihagi
Thanks for the Gerard pic! But now I realize the Mimihagi pic I was using and the one in the article infobox is just a statue, not the real thing. Apparently Mimihagi doesn't even have an image gallery on this wiki. Anyway, uh, this (ch 616, p 15) is the best I could find of the real thing that shows all its features. Could you crop it to something like this? https://prnt.sc/r1erm9 Lightning Laxus (talk) 18:45, February 12, 2020 (UTC)

why not just enlarge the image and then crop it
It slightly degrades the quality, sure, but I prefer that over being out of focus. Lightning Laxus (talk) 19:20, February 16, 2020 (UTC)

Rollback on Pernida Parnkgjas
I was attempting to omit the part about his "head" enlarging and proofread the section like an essay. From what I read a lot about the details of Pernida's Schift is TMI and much of it unnecessary to read. AnonymousAnomani (talk) 15:20, February 21, 2020 (UTC)

Rollback on Yammy Liargo Personality.
There shouldn't be any point to referencing Yammy's character traits. But the section needed a touch-up since I read his personality incoherently. AnonymousAnomani (talk) 18:33, February 21, 2020 (UTC)

Updated with new information
Hey there!!

Could you please change a gender for Giselle from Bleach?

He is a male, not female, which was confirmed by Mayuri and Yummichika.

Thanks :)

Requesting pic of Pernida's hand
Ch 599, pg 15, bottom right corner. Lightning Laxus (talk) 23:10, February 27, 2020 (UTC)

Infobox switches
Heya, Xil. Saw the topic on Aizen's talk page about switching images in the infobox. A user on Community Central, Wingstrike, had a thread up about this: link. There's a link to a Switch template with 3 options down the page: link. Might be something you could port over here. Kenji-Taichō (Talk)  09:55, March 1, 2020 (UTC)


 * No problems, Xil. Hope it does the job! Kenji-Taichō (Talk)  21:17, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

Yup, cant add it either. Id say your best bet is Special:Contact or message the wiki manager, Ursuul. I dont think we've given him any work so far, might as well make use of them since he's there. I tried doing that last year after some discussion here but couldnt get it working right so its great someone else managed it. 19:10, March 21, 2020 (UTC)


 * If it helps, I just remembered that theres always this very early attempt I made on DtB Wiki ages ago. Can't vouch for its quality these days, it hasnt been touched in years. Sorry for the wait and absence of late but, ah, life happened and all is back to normal now. Im catching up now and will be back on top of it by tomorrow. 19:17, March 21, 2020 (UTC)

Apologies for Gerard edit
Concerning my recent edit on Gerards page, you said I was "condescending about correcting long-standing mistakes". While I honestly don't see how I was condescending in any way, I sincerely apologize if I unintentionally was. I want to make it clear do respect you and the rest of the staff for your hard work, something which I know wiki volunteers don't often get. Timjer (talk) 18:17, March 1, 2020 (UTC)


 * Oh, alright then. BTW, while we're at it, are there any other "unclear translations" left open from the old days that you know about? Because if it happens to be from vol. 68 - 74(*), I could check it on my Kindle right now if anyone wants. (*)Those are the only voumes I have digital. The others are hardcopies that I don't have with me right now. Timjer (talk) 18:28, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

Requesting pic of Kirio's cooking
Chapter 521, page 6. Lightning Laxus (talk) 03:16, March 6, 2020 (UTC)


 * Oh, didn't realize it was already here. Guess it was a mistake to only check Kirio's image gallery. Lightning Laxus (talk) 03:22, March 6, 2020 (UTC)

Canon or Expanded
With the release of this novel we get confirmation regarding Tite Kubo's involvement with the Bleach novels. A meeting was held after the Bleach manga series finished, with Ryohgo Narita the where Tite Kubo was also in attendance and was able to ask questions regarding the time gap between the 10 years after Yhwach's defeat. Would that make the Novel Bleach: WE DO knot ALWAYS LOVE YOU, canon or should we continue with just adding things to the Expanded Universe tab like we are currently doing? This is the website where the interview was written I also found some of that interview translated on tumblr .--Tuxedo12 (talk) 20:02, March 9, 2020 (UTC)

Manga in color
I been looking at where you are now. So next volume is the force on Ichigo vs Kenpachi fight. I wait excited to when you get to the Arrancars because many of them don't have manga pictures of them. Most Grimmjow's fraccions. Also please don't forget about Hollows too. Like the ones that's coming up soon in Momo's flashback. That one that could hide its reiatsu and scared Hisagi.Darkmachines (talk)

Oh boy, only five more volumes left and the Arrancar arc can have color pictures finally. Only think I fear is the Bount Arc if you doing episodes too. Darkmachines (talk)

Oh man I getting very excited. Only two more volumes left before the Arrancar arc get started. I look forward to seeing more of Shawlong and the other fraccions of Grimmjow. Keep the awesome work up please. Darkmachines (talk)

So the next issue as the big one with Aizen's huge surprise. Which everyone say was the best moment in Bleach. Because no one saw it coming at all. Darkmachines (talk)

Wait I'm confused? I thought the Arrancar Arc was one of the best? I enjoy it very much and don't have negative feeling about it? There are several things I would like to change, but the anime did help some too.Darkmachines (talk)

Episodes
Ok good news is next filler in not until episode 50. However, I have to ask you, are you going to be doing the Bount Arc first before getting into the Arrancar Arc? Just wondering, since your going in number order of episodes. Darkmachines (talk)

I need to ask what are you going to do after the Soul Society Arc? Will you do the Bount Arc to go in episode order or skip to the Arrancar Arc continue doing the manga in color too? Darkmachines (talk)

Oh man, just think about this? After the Soul Society Arc you can or can not do the Bount Arc. Its your choice, but man think how trying that would be try to do 50 episodes before the Arrancar Arc starts. I wish you lucky my friend. Darkmachines (talk)

Updated with new information
Hello Xilinoc

It's pretty much confirmed Rikichi full name is "Rikichi Yuki". It's been on the 13 blades Fanbook.

Here the Link: https://66.media.tumblr.com/fd701d98f3a3773f5b839e48a4fd09cf/tumblr_nt6uvcgUeP1utonbwo3_1280.jpg

It's also confirmed Zennosuke Kurumadani is from the 13th division.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/eb3f3c0b0f2f33f913ff6e062c7cf9c9/tumblr_nubnwmxUR31utonbwo3_1280.jpg

We should edit the page since it's been a pretty long time since the book 13 blades came out. I'm a "detail freak" kind of person.

Updated with new information (Again)
Hello Xilinoc, it's me again

Thank you for the quick edit. I discovered new stuff on the bleach Jet book. They have information on Ichigo classmate. For exemple, on the bleach russian wiki, they have article and picture on Victoria Hitomi Odagiri and Conrad Tomohiro odagiri(im not sure the exact spelling of his name)

On the Bleach volume 12 p.189, we can see a list of some of Ichigo classmate. I think they are in the exact same order than in Bleach Jet (except for Rukia).

Here is a link of a Youtube Video which we can see sketch of all the classmates (18:04 mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQRafgx7zA

Thank you for you contribution and ode to Aizen-sama

--Qwertyuiop100fhjfyu (talk) 13:49, March 12, 2020 (UTC)

Gagaku Kairō command
Hey, Xil, where did you find Gagaku Kairō's release command? I'd love to know, because I couldn't find it anywhere. Either that, or I'm blinder than I think. Anyway, if you're sure it's correct, I'll add it to the list of Zanpakuto template. Timjer (talk) 14:13, March 12, 2020 (UTC)

BTW Visual
Where do you recommend this go? Val - There are no strings on me (talk )

Hi! I'm an admin for Zero Game, another LINE webtoon series. I was wondering if you were willing to affiliate with our wiki? If so, the watermark template is "Zero-Game." Thanks!

ScarletRose223 (talk) 05:23, March 21, 2020 (UTC)

Requesting pic of Uryu drinking Yhwach's blood
Ch 543, pg 17 Lightning Laxus (talk) 22:09, March 21, 2020 (UTC)


 * Bottom. Sorry, should've been more specific. Lightning Laxus (talk) 00:43, March 22, 2020 (UTC)

Requesting pic of Yhwach's power returning to him
So I want to add a pic to Yhwach's page, but I can't decide whether to use the top panel of ch 565, pg 3 or ch 565, pg 6. I'll let you decide which one looks better in the colored scans. Lightning Laxus (talk) 05:08, March 23, 2020 (UTC)

Requesting pic of Yammy's black cero
Ch 378, pg 10. Lightning Laxus (talk) 14:45, March 23, 2020 (UTC)


 * Is Yammy's skin always that dark in the manga? Or is just the lighting in that one particular panel? Lightning Laxus (talk) 15:09, March 23, 2020 (UTC)

How would I cite the end of chapter tidbits?
Like this one. 553, page 18? Or some other format? Lightning Laxus (talk) 16:47, March 23, 2020 (UTC)

Bumping some talk pages
Ninny's, Squad 0's, Tosen's, Vollstandig's. Nobody replied to those... Lightning Laxus (talk) 18:08, March 23, 2020 (UTC)

Infobox Image Posting
I have been noticing that many characters have tabs for Pre-timeskip and post-time skip but why is Shuhei's pre -timeskip image not posted only his post time-skip image is there. Also some individuals have infobox image tabs that say "child" or something else. I feel like we don't need to include these images in their infoboxes it just makes things confusing. Ex: Bazz-B, Sōsuke Aizen, Jugram Haschwalth. I think we should only post images of characters from the inital pre and post time-skip as well as their epilogue images. I don't know why we have begun to do this but it makes it easier to stick to this conventional method because the infobox images should depict what the character looks like when they are introduced and then what they look like later.--Tuxedo12 (talk) 03:53, March 24, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Pernida Parnkgjas rollback
I still think that the information can be better formatted.AnonymousAnomani (talk) 18:15, March 26, 2020 (UTC)

Re: LookMore
That was the idea, but the age profile of anime/manga fans and general attitude online guarantees there'll be plenty of that sort for ever more. Its just a table header that I shrunk to fit in the infobox. Was meant to be a bit more attention grabbing but I had to give up on that. Think it works as it is though. 20:20, March 26, 2020 (UTC)

Shinji's page.
Hey can you please help me out? Can you unlock Shinji's page so I can add his Brave Souls Bankai pictures into it? Did both Grimmjow and Luppi, but I can't do Shinji. If not here the picture for you to add in yourself Ok?

Here's your source

Quincy image gallery
Shouldn't it include Shadow and Vollstandig? Lightning Laxus (talk) 01:26, April 10, 2020 (UTC)


 * There's a typo for Shadow. Also, you forgot to put a | for Vollstandig which is why it's not showing up in the gallery. Lightning Laxus (talk) 01:34, April 10, 2020 (UTC)

Can you unlock Aizen for a quick sec?
Currently the wiki is saying that the Hogyoku rejected Aizen, but that is only a theory presented by Urahara. Ichigo presents his own theory that the Hogyoku reacted to Aizen's hidden desire to be like everyone else (page 1, page 2, page 3). Both theories should be on the wiki since neither Ichigo or Urahara, or even Aizen for that matter, truly knows what happened. Lightning Laxus (talk) 04:24, April 29, 2020 (UTC)

Where is it confirmed about Yachiru?
CFYOW I'm assuming, but do you have any idea which chapter or volume? Lightning Laxus (talk) 17:28, April 30, 2020 (UTC)


 * I did a quick Ctrl + F on all the translation pages I could find and couldn't find anything about it. You sure the novel mention it? Lightning Laxus (talk) 18:05, May 1, 2020 (UTC)


 * FYI, I'm pretty sure the ~"Yachiru is Nozarashi" stuff was strongly implied in Bleach: WE DO knot ALWAYS LOVE YOU, I don't think it was outright stated in CFYOW. Timjer (talk) 10:18, May 2, 2020 (UTC)

Affiliate Request
Hi there! My name is Jess and Im an admin over on the Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba wiki. I recently became a fan of Bleach and was wondering if we could be affiliated? I was going to ask on the affiliate thread, but then I saw that it hasn't been used for a while so I hope you don't mind me asking on your wall. Here's the link to our wordmark. Please let me know if you need any other information!

Re:Page Protections
No worries, its not a big deal. Unfortunately it comes from long experience of what does and doesnt work. The problem with trolls/vandals is that if they are in any way smart or determined to attack a particular wiki, they dont attack the same pages or move on to a different one as some as they discover they cant edit it, so it doesnt really help. Most of the time though, a day or 2 is long enough if a lock is needed, though some discussions will go on for a longer time if its particularly controversial or can be argued both ways. I dont think you were wrong in locking Hitsu's page just too long. That guy has been around wikis long enough to know that you start a discussion rather than undo each other's edits.

On a separate note, this edit to the Episodes page needs addressing. The user is correct in that there is some manga content, but it is mostly filler. It seems misleading to classify it as either normal or filler so I was thinking a new label, eg hybrid or mainly filler (though Im not partial to any name) would be in order to highlight that it is more than just a bit of padding like many episodes have. I have a vague idea that there are 1 or 2 other episodes that are in the same boat but Im not sure so I thought Id ask you since youve been going through the episodes to keep an eye out for any and update the Episodes page if you find any if you dont mind. 20:54, May 11, 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Thanks 21:23, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

Proficiency
I noticed that Kirio Hikifune's page was updated recently and she was originally listed as a Shunpo Expert but now is listed as a Master. Their was no new references mentioning anything so if she is a master she should be changed in the Shunpo users; if not she should be reverted to expert. On a side note, it seems some individuals are listed as Sonído users but don't have anything on their page mentioning them using the technique, while some users like Kaname could also use Sonído but are not listed in the page even though they have used it numerous times.--Tuxedo12 (talk) 04:00, May 14, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Re: Can't Fear Your Own World
You haven't really explained your reasoning. How are they not canon? It's not like Kubo is going to turn around and go, "Wait, I want a new Bankai for Shinji" or "hold on, let's not make this bad guy a noble". The fact the the novels appear in Brave Souls means that they are recognized by Kubo and his team and are at least as canon as the movies. Ti9MK97s (talk) 22:25, May 19, 2020 (UTC)

RE: Shinji's tab
No problem, Xil. I've reached the point where I don't mind if the novels are treated as canon or not, to be honest. If it's documented on Expanded Universe pages in detail, at least its documented. If the reader decides its canon, great, if not, also great. I've got the English release pre-ordered, so I'm pretty much just waiting for that. Kenji-Taichō (Talk)  00:27, May 20, 2020 (UTC)


 * Very true! UNMASKED has some very nice bits too. Shame. Never understood why it wasn't translated when the first two were. Ah, well. With the anime returning, Burn the Witch getting more attention, and CFYOW getting an English translation, they might reassess the novels and databooks. One can hope. Kenji-Taichō (Talk)  00:40, May 20, 2020 (UTC)

Re: ‎Yubikiri
Huh, I honestly don't know why I never thought of doing that. Thanks anyway, now it looks a bit more decent on Shunsui's EU page. Timjer (talk) 19:20, June 1, 2020 (UTC)

Techniques Translations
Do I have your permission to up all translation up? Both Spanish and German please? I don't want to work all day doing them and get them taken down again. Also want to ask you first before doing anything at all. Just need a Yes or No please. Darkmachines (talk)

I was think if it Ok just put the German and Spanish translation up only. No Kanji or English translation of the Japanese meaning. Just only the main German and Spanish translation to english and nothing else? Darkmachines (talk)

This is like a child trying to get one parent to let them put the tv on when the other has already said no. 18:41, June 8, 2020 (UTC)

How does that look? Instead of putting everything in for the translating, I'm just adding on to them keeping it less clutter. Darkmachines (talk)

You can handle the missing Techniques because I can't do it anymore if all the translation are only going to be put in the Japanese English Translation only and both Spanish and German English Translation for Arrancars and Quincy are not allow because I have no idea why. I did this following your way, but in the end all I do to help here is against always. When you find a away for German and Spanish translation be allow in the translation then I will continue, but I can't because it so upsetting get my hard work taken down always. Darkmachines (talk)

Re:Episode Summary rules
I think theres another way here that will satisfy both aim - the the footnote/hover template. Akin to the reference pop-up box. Initially hide the clutter but allow the reader to see there is more info and allow it to be seen on the page if the reader wants to know more. We have a hover template but it is ancient and doesnt really let you know its actually there. I'm sure theres a version of it knocking around that underlines the text to make it obvious but I cant find it on this wiki. I'll see if I can get hold of it. 18:41, June 8, 2020 (UTC)
 * Best I can find at the moment is this, except with text instead of pics obviously: 1 2. The underlining will be easier to see in a list than it is in that paragraph. 19:26, June 8, 2020 (UTC)
 * Have the normal name (the bolded part) as normal, followed by the kanji and most important translation, both of which are underlined with all the details in the pop-up. It would look too weird I think to not have any translation at all after it. 10:42, June 9, 2020 (UTC)
 * I have to admit defeat on this one, my head is wrecked just looking at that code. I used to be able to figure this stuff out but CSS was never a strong point of mine and Im way too many years out of practice with this stuff. I copied the template and CSS from Final Fantasy wiki but it didnt work and the second version of it is from a thread of Community Central but it doesnt seem to work either. Dont know if Im just too tired to see something glaringly obvious or if its better to try a different way of coding it. Feel free to knock yourself out with it if you want. 21:33, June 9, 2020 (UTC)


 * The text seems to always reduce to an asterisk when the translation template is inside the foot one, but not the other way around, so it would have to be just the kanji and translation that are inside the footnote. Have to keep the number of pipes to a minimum with it too or the don't display whats after the pipe. Id use the following 08:47, June 12, 2020 (UTC)