Talk:Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto

Eijisai
丿字斎 is the kanji for Eijisai. I'm not very sure about it, but I think it means "'Ei'-word sage" (don't know the meaning of Ei). Coutinho305 (talk) 15:01, September 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's just a reference to the shape of the scar. Ji is character, so it's the ei-character shaped scar. Ei itself is just a kanji radical name, I *think*, but here there's no need to translate.Vraieesprit (talk) 11:01, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Misspelled Techniques?
"残火の太刀の西　残日獄衣" would be "Zanka no Tachi, West: Zanjitsu Gokui." Likewise, "残火の太刀の東　旭日刃" is "Zanka no Tachi, East: Kyokujitsujin." Just something to point out. :3 Degausser18 (talk) 15:16, September 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * That will be determined by Adam and the translation corner.--
 * While I'm aware that only the translation corner can provide final confirmation, when they have access to a raw, the rōmaji should still be changed in this case. Both Mangastream and MangaPanda's versions use "Zanka no Tachi, West: Zanjitsu Gokui" and "Zanka no Tachi, East: Kyokujitsujin". So, while I don't know exactly which version the rōmaji were taken from, I'd presume that you simply mistook the "i" in each for a "u" instead. Blackstar1 (talk) 16:58, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Bankai and plotline
There are a few mistakes in both his Bankai description and the latest plotline addition. Sorry to bother you so soon after the new release, but I can't change it myself, because the page is locked.

Firstly, "point" of his sword, should be "edge" of his sword. Secondly, when Genryūsai hits that stone, it isn't blown to bits. The slash actually makes a huge gap in the ground ("eradicating everything to nothingness"). The frame is shown from within the gap. Thirdly, Juha Bach's sword isn't cut in half. If this was the case, we would have seen the other half flying away, like Kubo normally does. No, the other half is just incinerated by Yamamoto's Flame Clad. He actually says he can't be touched, because his body is embosomed by 15 million degree flames.

Thank you for your attention and comprehension. --Empty moon (talk) 19:06, September 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Highly subjective, especially compared to your source. It clearly is the point not the edge until he releases his first technique. Secondly the level of degree's is very different from what im reading. Either way some things are changed.--
 * I used Manga Inn, and it came out as "edge" and "fifteen million degrees" when I read it. It might be different on other websites, though, since Japanese and English do not always translate smoothly. Meta5 (talk) 03:26, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry Salubri, I myself found that I might have said it a little too hard. Still, I'm going on the Mangastream translation. It can still be a mistranslation of course, but if it was "the edge" it would make a lot more sense. Why would Genryūsai otherwise say "edge" when he explains Zanka no Tachi, East. Everything else I said wasn't even speculative, I only went by what Yamamoto said. Still, thank you for the changes and your patience. I know I can sometimes seem a bit intolerant, again sorry for that.--Empty moon (talk) 22:40, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

I appologize for butting in the conversation, but even now the Bankai section has quite a few errors in regards to it's writing and structure, and since it's protected, it can't be edited unless by someone with the proper powers. Darksusanoo (talk) 01:43, September 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well trust its a fine reflection of whats stated. Exactly the information that needs to be there and if there is an issue it will be handled by the grammar corner.-- 02:55, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

Translation
This is just a question about the translation of the second technique. I've seeen it at some times Zanji Tsugoki and other times, "Zanjitsu Gokui." On the website, it spelt "Zanjutsu Gokui." How exactly is it? CaptainOtoribashi (talk) 21:02, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * We are waiting on proper translations from our translators.--

Flashback Appearance
Wasn't sure if this goes under forums or if its fine here. I was reading issue 507 and when Juhabach explains Yamamoto's Bankai in a flashback, you see a picture of Yamamoto from behind what appears like a sleeveless captain's haori but not entirely sure if its clear. Here's the reference: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v53/c507/4.html

Should this be added as a note under his appearance or not really relevant? --Northstar1012 (talk) 14:47, September 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * The style of a captains Haori doesnt seem to be a set in stone thing. As a piece of clothing it is subject to the captain in questions particular style. Kenpachi tends toward the sleeveless and tattered version. Yoruichi used to wear a long sleeved one and Sui-feng wears a sleeveless haori. Tosen wore a long sleeved haori while kensei in both terms as captain wore a sleeveless one. It would stand to reason that when Yamamoto was younger and far more active he had a sleeveless haori and if then he likely changed style with age. Either way this would be a very minor point to make on the article so im not convinced of its relevancy.--


 * Bankai:Zanka no Tachi: In it's Bankai, the blade takes the form of an ancient and worn katana

From the bankai section, and trimmed slightly. Just pointing out that "it's" should be "its". It's = it is. Its = possessive.

Typo
Can't seem to start a new topic sooo, this is going to end up under some other topic...

Zanka no Tachi, Minami: Kaka Juuman Okushi Daisoujin (残火の太刀 "南":, Longsword of the Remnant Flame, South:): Yamamoto impales the tip of his sword into the ground and calls upon the corpses, the ashes of the dead who were killed by his flames to come forth and fight on his behalf for a amount of time.[144]

Should be "for an amount of time" it wouldn't let me edit it so I thought I'd bring it up Kiadote12 (talk) 21:05, September 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * As for the new topic section, you can just use "=" to make Header 2's or type the name of the heading in the summary box. -- Qazqaz 555  21:07, September 19, 2012 (UTC)

Translation
I saw the raw scan. the corpse technique's last part in kanji is this: 火火十万億死大葬陣.



 ☆ DC2 ☆  (You in mah territory, biotch!) 20:22, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

The name of the chapter 天地灰尽 is the same as the name of the technique.--Zero62422002 (talk) 19:01, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Since I can't edit the page myself, I guess I'll just point this out here.

Th definition of Yamamato's "Oni Fire" doesn't really define what the technique does. Instead, it just describes the effect on the one opponent he used it on, and not what actually happens.

I'm thinking we could change it to something like "A technique where Yamamato takes his zanpakuto in its sealed cane form and thrusts it at his opponent, forming a large hole in their body. This technique was effective against a multiple story-high opponent like Ayon."

Sound reasonable?

Xilinoc (talk) 00:25, October 9, 2012 (UTC)