Talk:Gin Ichimaru

Spiritual Pressure
Why was the majority of the visored's spiritual pressure changed from immense to great along with Gin's? Was there a change in definition of spiritual pressure? Gin has been shown to have a very high spiritual pressure that can incapacitate people and he isn't overwhelmed by Aizen's spiritual pressure even when he is transformed. He and toshiro were equally releasing equal amounts of reiatsu when they fought. Finally, tosen is listed as having immense spiritual pressure yet has not shown anything more impressive than gin in feats or release of reiatsu. He also easily beat the 3rd seat of the 5th division at a young age showing he has a high control of his spiritual pressure along with alot of it. By the definition in the reiatsu page, this means he should be listed as having an immense spiritual pressure. 209Kenpachi (talk) 18:35, November 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, on the talk page of Reiryoku, I pointed out that the "Great" level of spiritual power, while supposedly the average level of a captain, was in fact only applied to 3 captains out of all 20+ captains in the history of the Gotei 13, and Salubri admitted that the spiritual power levels were overblown, so she went around making necessary adjustments. I would take it up with her. Xilinoc (talk) 05:38, November 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * He and not a She Xilinoc. But in general user opinion on what a characters power level is not how this site determines power levels, seeing as they tend to be bias and opinionated. Great is the level for captains. He is no less for having great spiritual power. How he uses that power is no less or greater then any captain. Him being around Aizen is no different then a few others in Aizen's presence that had no problem, even a few of ichigo's classmates could stand in his presence so thats no indication. Toshiro's spiritual power effects the atmosphere and has been stated on more then once at how large and powerful it is, and yes his techniques were more versatile and impressive, but thats besides the point. For all anyone knows that 3rd seat he fought wasnt very powerful but that matters little considering no one said he wasnt skilled or powerful at a young age. Regardless his level has been evaluated and determined, thats the final word on that.--
 * Sorry about that Salubri, I have trouble determining the gender of those on this site without an indicator of some sort. Anyway, can we close this discussion?Xilinoc (talk) 19:02, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Kamishini no Yari wording issues
"However, Gin has also stated that his Bankai is not as fast or as long as he originally claimed, but he hasn't elaborated on this statement further to determine what he is specifically referring to." - this statement is stupid. It is quite obviously what he is specifically referring to. He had given the supposed length of Kamishini no Yari (13 metric system kilometers) and the supposed speed at which it contracts and expands (1/500th of the time it takes to clap). Then he simply said he had overstated these figures in order to disguise the "Kill" ability, simple as that. This should be worded differently. Xfing (talk) 23:32, March 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * He states that he lied to Aizen, he states the length and speed of the Bankai to Ichigo. How do you know he said the same thing to both?--