Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5551986-20181227102057/@comment-957629-20190107142147

Timjer wrote: OMG you keep editing to add more on top this is getting frustrating:

What do you even want anymore? If I add new posts, it's not allowed by wiki rules you enforce. If I edit old posts, you find it frustrating for some reason. Is there even anything you aren't frustrated by? This nothing related to rules this is the constant editing for your words when I am in the middle of replying so it looks like I haven't encompassed everything you have said so then I have to edit my post. Before I finish my edit you edit again so I have to go back and edit my post again. And then you literally edit it again and becomes a boring cycle. Like can't you take a wee breath and let me reply, you know I am actively doing it, that I am here.

Its not against the rules but its a circle of editing same post which I do not enjoy. As can't get down to a concise point we end up all over the place on different pages.

Timjer wrote: "Even evil has standards" is a trope for a reason. Tropes are not meant to be good things, its pointing out things that happen over and over again. I don't know what tropes have to do with this because I wasn't discussing them, merely discussing the information we are given in the Manga before he decided he was dissatisfied. Which yes he is allowed to do but doesn't change how we view work that is merely influenced by him instead of done by him.

Timjer wrote: P.S.: Might I point out that it was Kubo himself who made Aizen's motivation, in the manga itself, a bit deeper than just "rule the world". He still wanted it out of selfishness and narcissistic ego, I don't deny that, but also because he was disgusted by the fact that the world rest upon something as sickening as the linchpin. Reading over Chapter 421 it doesn't appear that way at all from what he is saying. If linking the arcs together can easily be said that Aizen is completely misunderstanding and is insulted by the fact that such a physically incapacitated person is called King. He even says "how can you obey that thing" and Urahara replies about bonds and how he holds it together.

Aizen has always been about being the most powerful and trying to shape the world in how he sees fit. He calls the Soul King "that thing" while misinterpreting what its role is. He even calls Urahara a loser for accepting the status quo without challenging it and shaping it as he sees fit. That's not the Soul King's role, he doesn't give orders, he merely holds the realms together. And thats literally what Urahara stated.

This would have been a perfect time for Aizen to talk about how disgusting everything was but he doesn't. He rants and raves about people taking orders from something so, for appearance sake, powerless and weak. You can try to say that it was clear that he was trying to say he was disgusted by how the world was made as was established in the novels but he doesn't. Not once. He belies disgust at the Soul King and people bowing to him, not about how he was made and what other people did or whatever.

It already fits together in the Manga what Aizen wanted, he already stated he wanted to stand at the top. I doubt he would have if he knew that being at the top would require sitting around doing nothing, being powerless except just holding the worlds together. If he understood that destroying the person at the top would destroy the realms, whats he God over then, you can't "stand at the top" when there's literally nothing below you because the realms are gone.

Even if try to say that he wanted to do what Yhwach done and absorb the Soul King but there's nothing "absorbing" ever seen in Aizen's repertoire. Yhwach frequently dispense powers and reabsorbs them again and such.

So yeah I don't hear this information from the novels and think Aizen's motives suddenly make sense. They already made sense and I'm not about to try and reinterpret his words to fit the narrative of the novels because they already made sense as they were.