Forum:Neliel or Nelliel?

Apparently, on an official Japanese card, her name has changed to Nelliel. Note that it is the same brand of cards that used "Schiffer" and "Jeagerjaques", until volume 38 was released. And I don't remember there being two Ls when her cover page was released. This confused a great deal of editors (like me), so I decided to create a poll which gives others the liberty to vote on whichever name you prefer, Neliel or Nelliel.

Vote "Single L" if you want Neliel, or "Double Ls" if you prefer Nelliel. I vote for "Single L". Krone8

I go for two Ls. I have stated my opinion about that on the espada talk page. Go see it if you want. --Agate genbu 15:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Single l. Cards are not canon. Drunk Samurai 03:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't understand why Drunk Samurai is being so damn stubborn about this. Okay, so cards aren't canon. We get it. Saying that over and over and over doesn't mean anything. However, it's the only official spelling of her name, so until we get something else, it should be used. If something else contradicts it, we use that something else--cards aren't canon, after all. But until then? Screw you and your motto. Dazuro 00:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Its two ls in Nelliel's name because I'll show you a pattern that is not a coincidence:

Starrk-Double R Barragan Luisenbarn-Double R Tia Harribel-Double R Ulquiorra Cifer-Double R Nnoitra Jiruga-Double N Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez-Double M  Zommari Leroux-Double M Szayel Aporro Granz-Double R Aaroniero Arruruerie-Double R Yammy Rialgo-Double M

even Luppi and the Privaron Espada have double letters in their name so obviously Nel does too.

Think about it, names like Ggio Vega and Nnoitra Jiruga. Those unneccessary letters are there for a reason and to set off a pattern. To make it even broader: Arrancar and Hollow have the double letters. Now all of the arrancar don't have double letters but most of them do.

So hands down its Nelliel Tu Oderschvank-Two Ls end of story.Heruga59 00:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if others have double letters. Unless it is in the manga or a databook it is not canon and DOES NOT COUNT. It is that simple. Anybody who says otherwise is ignorant about the difference between canon and non canon. Drunk Samurai 00:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok! Drunk Samurai what do you propose her name be spell as? You keep saying Not Canon! Not Canon! then can you please tell me where in the manga or databook her name is spelled? because if there isn't your argument does not hold any value. If you can indeed prove that her name is NOT spelled with a double letter then the name will be changed back to only one L, however if you cannot prove that then what are you complaining about.WhiteStrike 04:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I'll vote. It really makes no difference to me, because I will continue calling her Neliel no matter what. My reason is simply because I am used to it, and Dattebayo subs it that way. Also, I don't find a card to be canon. Although, all the Espada so far have had double letters as currently stated. So, do whatever really... HuecoMuffin 20:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

It should be what it was before. It does not matter at all how the card spells it. It's like how some people call Jyabura from One Piece Jabra because Shounen Jump screwed up on a poll and called him that. It is not canon unless it is in the MANGA or DATABOOKS. Anything else is NOT CANON and DOES NOT COUNT. Using a non canon to "prove" canon is the stupidest thing anybody can do when dealing with manga/anime. Drunk Samurai 06:22, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I vote 'Double L'. The Espadas' names follow an obvious trend; no-one can deny that. About this whole card thing.. Let us assume that this supposed card isn't canon. Could you please show me solid, canonical evidence that proves the correct spelling of her name. Fandubs and/or Manga translations obviously do not count as canonical, as you can't tell the English spelling of a word from the Japanese characters it consists of. If you can't show me said evidence then the double letter trend is the best lead we have to go on. Ultimt evil 10:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Yet again I have to say it. It doesn't matter if there is no canonical evidence for it. A card is NOT CANON and should NEVER be used to prove canon. By that logic then every single last Bleach filler is canon. Drunk Samurai 19:29, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you're going to go by the pattern, then you fail, because Neliel is the only Espada who fights against Aizen, so breaking the pattern.