Forum:Oldest?

Shawlong mentioned in battle against Hitsugaya that arrancars were reborn from hollow by Hougyoku and then assigned a number, starting with eleven. So Grimmjow isn't the oldest arrancar in Espada. He's second of hougyoku arrancar.


 * Indeed this is the truth. But, considering the fact that all of the current Espada, to our knowledge, were created by the Hougyoku, he would be the oldest Arrancar in the Espada. As for actual ages beginning from their first day as a Hollow, it's safe to say Barragan might be it. Aaroniero might seem as an exception to the rule, but it was never actually stated that he was born without the Hougyoku. HuecoMuffin 21:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Zommari clearly said that Aaroniero was from the Original Espada and Dordonni said that members of the previous Espada were well known if the hougyoku was obtained they would no longer be of any use. So Previous Espada's members were non-hougyoku arrancars. Aaroniero might be from the previous espada or older than that previous, but he's definetely not created by hougyoku. At least Aaroniero older that Grimmjow.--Layol 21:38, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * While I agree with what you are saying, I still stated that Aaroniero wasn't comfirmed to be made with or without the Hougyoku. This being said, his character make-up and such makes him look as through he wasn't created through the Hougyokus power, and yes, Zommari said he was part of the Original Espada, but if what you said was the case, then he would've been rendered "obsolete" with the birth of the Hougyoku created Arrancar, and therefore wouldn't be a member of the Espada. So, the only way he could be older then Grimmjow is if he became an Arrancar naturally, and as I've stated before, that question has yet to be answered. HuecoMuffin 21:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Where is it ever stated Grimmjow was the 12th arrancar? MVPVasto 22:42, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * In the recently released Volume 38 of the manga (which is also why "Jeagerjaques" turned into "Jaegerjaquez"). Arrancar109 22:50, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Awww, Okay. Thanks for info MVPVasto 22:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)