Forum:Ichigo Getting Weaker or Stronger ?

When Ulquiorra first meets ichigo he comments that his Spirtual Pressure is greater than his own when not in conflict with his inner hollow, this being before he gains his vizard powers. Now after gaining his Vizard powers, and no longer in conflict with his inner hollow, and gaining strength as well he goes to fight ulquiorra and can't even come close to beating his first release not to mention the second. So before he gets "stronger" he is supposedly stronger than ulquiorra but after he gets "stronger" he can't beat him? Hollichgo 16:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC) Hollichigo


 * Did Ulquiorra actually comment that Ichigo's spiritual pressure was higher when he wasn't fighting his hollow? I didn't see that detail, rather just that one moment it's high, another moment it's low. Ulquiorra's comment was made while Ichigo was in the midst of fighting off his hollow's attempt to gain control.  It is possible that the spiritual pressure "higher than my own" Ulquiorra was referring to was when Ichigo's hollow was close to assuming control, and that it was reduced significantly when Ichigo fought the hollow back. -FrameDragging 19:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Ichigo's reiatsu has always been a lot greater then the amount of his reiatsu that he can use. So while his reiatsu with the mask on is greater then Ulquiorra's (and Ulquiorra did state that very clearly), his control means that he is unable to use it all to fight efficiently. BollyW 22:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I've also been thinking about this for some time, when Cifer stated that at it's peak Ichigo's spiritual pressure was higher than his own he could have meant that Ichigo's reiatsu without any sort of distraction, being completely focused on the enemy filled with the desire to beat that enemy and focusing all of his reiatsu on that person probably resulted in Ulquiorra's remark and that fighting with his inner hollow resulted in a significant reduction of his power since it was an obvious distraction, Orihime also said that she felt as if his reiatsu was crushing her and that it was different and we can't forget that ichigo hasn't been trained to control his spiritual pressure not unlike a young Toushiro who had the same problem and started freezing his grandmother without knowing it because of his former lack of control.--SalmanH 19:05, 25 July 2009 (UTC)