Talk:Sternritter

Uryū a Schutzstaffel
Shouldn't Uryū be listed as a Schutzstaffel? Chapter 630, pages 6-7. Jugram and a soldat speaking of "all the members of Schutzstaffel have already split into five different directions...". Yatanogarasu (talk) 08:30, July 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yep, it's been fixed. Thanks for the notice.--Xilinoc (talk) 15:58, July 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Yatanogarasu (talk) 02:56, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Uryu's power as a Sternritter
Shouldn't Uryu's reiryoku power level be changed from High Spiritual Power to Great/Immense spiritual power. I mean he IS a member of the Sternritter and part the Schutzstaffel. All members of the Sternritter are at the level comparable to or greater than that of a captain level Shinigami after all. I tried to add that last year, but it was removed, and the person who undid the edit said "that's not how it works". Let's assess the already known facts: Yhwach said Uryu could surpass him, all Quincies who drink from Yhwach's blood unlock their true powers, and Uryu being appointed as his future successor/heir, it would make sense Uryu already has more power than we all think. Am I wrong? Poweltav (talk) 05:00, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Sternritter Reiatsu - The Last Stand
This has been bothering me for quite some time, and I know its been talked to death before, but I truly believe that Akon's statement about their Reiatsu wasn't limited to those shown in the first invasion, and here's why:

https://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/35169

http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/499/5

http://mangasee.co/manga/?series=Bleach&chapter=499&index=1&page=6

All three of these sources, one of which we use often, says "At least 16" (MS goofed and said "6", admittedly). There were "at least" 17 Sternritter shown in the first invasion:

1 Jugram Haschwalth 2 Askin Nakk Le Vaar 3 Bambietta Basterbine 4 Äs Nödt 5 Bazz-B 6 Cang Du 7 BG9 8 PePe Waccabrada 9 Robert Accutrone 10 Driscoll Berci 11 Berenice Gabrielli 12 Jerome Guizbatt 13 Mask De Masculine 14 NaNaNa Najahkoop 15 Loyd Lloyd 16 Royd Lloyd 17 Shaz Domino

Now, let's consider the Sternritter that beat Rukia, the Sternritters that fought Yumichika and Ikkaku, the Sternritter that fought Shinji and Momo, and the Sternritter that seemingly Mayuri fought. And lets not forget all the Shinigami dying when Ichigo was trapped in the cage, BEFORE the Soldat were summoned. That's at least 5 more Sternritter unseen (4, because I'm not sure Mayuri was fighting, or even 3 if we assume Yumichika and Ikkaku fought together), yet were apart of the First Invasion.

What I'm saying is, we have reason to believe that more Sternritter than were shown took part in the First Invasion, and therefore would qualify for the Captain Level+ Reiatsu. Akon said "At Least 16", and also said that more information was coming in as he was speaking to Ichigo (about the casualties), meaning that there were more that he didn't know about at the time. Furthermore, the Schutzstaffel should at the very least get that Reiatsu level, as they beat the Royal Guard. And the Royal Guard got Immense Spiritual Power from a statement alone.

There, I've said my piece on why I think all the Sternritter should have Captain Level+ Reiatsu. To me, it just seems illogical to assume that Akon was referring to only 16 Sternritter when (when there was 17 shown, and a few more unseen, but present)~ SilverRain (talk) 19:31, July 14, 2015 (UTC)


 * Well its a moot point really. We can only determine who has what from what we seen (i.e. those who we saw in the first invasion) also in general most power level is determined by what each individual shows. Im not sure why such a thing so irrelevant is bothering you. Most of these characters are dead at this point. I would also point out random low level shinigmai dying isnot unheard of and doesnt say much about the opponents power level. Elite guard was only capable of defeat of the royal guard after a power up from yhwach prior to that they were all defeated by Oetsu with no release of power or otherwise besides simple swordsmanship.--

Stern Ritter's that lack Quincy Volstandig?
Is it worth adding a list of Stern Ritter's who lack the Quincy: Vollständig that appears only to be possessed by certain members, such as Robert?--JustaNobody (talk) 02:45, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

Shaz and Hubert
Why aren't they on the list? Both are Sternritter even if their epithets are unknown. Especially since Huebrt was the Vice-Captain 1000 years ago thats import to list.--AskinNakkLeVaar (talk) 21:58, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

bump.--AskinNakkLeVaar (talk) 20:51, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

In regards to Shaz, I'm fairly certain | you answered that question already. As for Hubert, he was a member of a previous iteration of the Sternritter, and the current list only features the members of the Sternritter seen in the current time period. However, if others believe he should be added I would have no objections. FutureQuincy (talk) 21:19, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

lol I did true, but at the same time I'm not entirely certain that the reveal in that is canon since it was written by Narita same as the other novels.

I think it couldn't hurt to list him i mean he was the 2nd in command of the original iteration so thats pretty important to list id say.--AskinNakkLeVaar (talk) 21:23, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Deaths
I don't think Bazz-B, Liltotto, or Giselel are confirmed dead at all.--AskinNakkLeVaar (talk) 06:24, September 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * "''I guess we really aren't ones to talk, either[...] It pisses me off that I couldn't kill you in the end ..."


 * No matter how you slice it, that's not something someone says unless they're about to kick the bucket. 07:53, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Opinion.--AskinNakkLeVaar (talk) 08:08, September 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Look, in most cases it's impossible to 100% absolutely confirm whether or not someone has died, unless they've been reduced to ash or something. There are many instances in Bleach where an enemy has been killed, but it was never stated that they were. (Although it was self-evident that they were). If we're going to confirm deaths based purely on textual or oral confirmation, then by that logic the amount of people that died in this is series would be virtually nil.


 * Regardless, that statement by Liltotto is sufficient enough to quell any doubt that those three will be getting up again (somehow). 09:02, September 3, 2015 (UTC)