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I think Ginjo spent an entire arc lying and manipulating ichigo and even himself in some instances. All he cared about is power and his on perceived hated of the Shinigami cause at one point in time they had him under surveillance when he was the substitute shinigami. He also was the only one to date to bring ichigo to the point of emotional despair. So I would take whatever Ginjo says as being authentic with a grain of salt. His entire persona is about manipulation. It also seems clear he may have had various dealings with certain high level shiniagmi at one point in time so, he may very well know some though apparently not on the level ichigo knows them.