Talk:Eleventh Division

Junk Trivia
"It's notable that the 11th division has a special organization that differs significantly from that of the other 12 divisions of the Gotei 13. For example, the Lieutenant is one of the youngest Shinigami in the Gotei 13 (if not the actual youngest), the 4th Seat (Yumichika) is 5th seat because he can't be 3rd seat (as his friend Ikkaku is) and "4 sounds awful", so there is no 4th seat. The captain (Kenpachi) is the only captain among the Gotei 13 that hasn't achieved Bankai and doesn't even know his zanpakuto's name. The 3rd seat (Ikkaku) is the only member of the division to achieve Bankai. Also, in the Anime presentation of the divisions (the 3rd Bleach ending video), the 11th's last picture, usually reserved for the Captain and the Lieutenant, shows the whole division. This may have lead people to think that there is no real organization, and that the division is a single cohesive unit."

There are so many things wrong with this trivia. I'll start with the most basic one - it is far, far too long for a trivia point. Also, we don't know how old Yachiru is (or most other characters for that matter). Too much speculation. --Yyp 12:01, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Yumichika's Seat
"The Division has no Fourth Seat even though the 5th Seat, Yumichika Ayasegawa is technically qualified for the position. However, he chooses to be the Fifth Seat because he can't take the position of Third Seat, leaving a vacant position that won't be filled as nobody is more qualified than him within the division short of the first three seats."

Nobody put the reason why Yumichika doesn't take the 4th Seat, and instead take the 5th. Even if is estated in his own page, I think the "he like the number 3 (in japanese "三") but takes the number 5 (in japanese "五") since they are likely" should be in this page also. SuikoRyos (talk) 10:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

The 8th Kenpachi
It's official, we know at least some info abouth the 8th Kenpachi.

http://imageftw.com/uploads/20120428/002.jpg

http://j-books.shueisha.co.jp/book/images/book184/chara2.gif

She will appear in Bleach: Spirits Are Forever With You. Her name is Azaki Kenpachi, and that's an actual sketch from Kubo. This, by the way, is supposed to be completely canon, so says Kubo. It says that she is guilty of high treason, and that she disappeared/went missing. --Black Butler94 (talk) 20:49, October 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Its not canon and Kubo never made such a statement. The novel has already contradicted canon material.--

Succession
Since Unohana is still alive, shouldn't we change that rule about Kenpachis killing their predecessors?--Xilinoc (talk) 00:44, December 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Please be patient for the moment we just want to wait for confirmation on certain things before jumping right in!!


 * Mkay.--Xilinoc (talk) 00:53, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

1st Captain?
Should Unohana really be listed as the first captain of the squad? It's unconfirmed if she was, and the idea of the 11th Division Captain being a Kenpachi could have been introduced after she left that title. Being Kenpachi doesn't necessarily mean being the captain of the division, it just means being better with a sword than anyone else. Kamikaze839 (talk) 14:01, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * I removed it. Until it is stated that Unohana was actually a part of the 11th division, we will not add it.--
 * Yeah thanks, I was wondering why someone added it up there without any actual confirmationKamikaze839 (talk) 15:41, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Trivia for 2nd Kenpachi
"Since killing the previous captain is a requirement to become the division's captain, it is unknown how the 2nd Kenpachi gained its rank since Unohana was still alive for quite some time." Gerronix13 (talk) 21:32, March 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * To my knowledge, we don't know when that rule was implemented. It could've been set in place by the 2nd Kenpachi, after Unohana left, for all we know. So that trivia is kinda speculative in that regard.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:16, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Yumichika's Kidō expertise
Should we make a mention somewhere that Yumichika is a Kidō Expert despite the 11th division's anti-Kidō attitude? Maybe under "Trivia" or the "Special Duties" section, to note out the irony, and that Yumichika is not criticized for it? Yatanogarasu (talk) 05:14, July 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * If I recall correctly, the division only has an unspoken rule about Kidō-type Zanpakutō; though they specialize in Zanjutsu, there's nothing preventing them from learning Kidō. On top of that, the previous chapters marks the first time in the manga that Yumichika has used Kidō period, and we didn't even see Ikkaku react to it. A little speculative to claim that no one criticizes him for using it. Hope that helps.--Xilinoc (talk) 06:27, July 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thanks. Yatanogarasu (talk) 21:25, August 6, 2014 (UTC)