Talk:Senjumaru Shutara

Isn't Shutara her name?
I know, mangareader made 'Senshumaru' first, but maybe it's just my paranoia, but I guess Shutara might be her first name. Senshumaru sounds more like last name. --Black Butler94 (talk) 14:14, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * The rest of the scan has the names in western order, I doubt they would be different just for her (see Ichigo and Kirio). 14:18, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure, I can agree that it's in western order, but still, 'maru' suffix is used mostly in names of males (i.e. Orochimaru, Sesshomaru). Also, Shutara seems more femine, but, we'll found out whem mangastream version will be released.--Black Butler94 (talk) 14:28, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * It would be the raw that you would want to check if you have any doubts. 14:32, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Like said, Mangapanda put the names in the western order, that's why Senshumaru appears first. About it sounding like a male name, you are right. Every name ending with "-maru", as far as I know, is a male name. What does this mean? Well, probably exactly what it seems. - Gorenja (talk) 17:01, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Regardless of what names ending in "-maru" mean gender-wise, unless you know how to speak Japanese or translate Japanese, I don't think you or anyone else is qualified to determine which name is her surname. As Yyp said, find a RAW, and if it's not written in English on it, then submit the RAW to the Translation Corner for verification. They're the only ones on this site that we can trust to deliver the correct translations of each character's name, their given name and their surname. Arrancar109 (Talk)  17:05, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

His name is "Senjumaru Shutara (Shutara Senjumaru)"... but his gender is "Unknown"? Is a trap xD Jakou (talk) 13:55, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. Senju means "Thousand Hands" which reflects... his? her?.... its abilities.--Black Butler94 (talk) 15:58, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually both Senju and Senshu are correct readings for the kanji and applied to a name it's normal for some phonemes to change. It's probably Senjumaru, though, since MS usually gets the kanji reading correct while MP tends to mess it up a little (like the "Gekka Tenshou" case), but the best is to wait for the raw to come out. - Gorenja (talk) 16:33, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Mangastream did Gekka Tensho as well. Based on their translation of 517, I'm inclined to say that they should never ever be trusted again, especially after in 516 they attributed Ichigo's dialogue to Shunsui and changed it so that it would make sense to readers.--
 * I'm not saying their translation is good or not. I am just saying they usually get the furigana right. This has nothing to do with translating something, but just knowing how it is supposed to be pronounced (the furigana are the small hiragana/katakana over a kanji). I, for myself, can do this perfectly even though I am completely unable to translate shit in japanese - you just need to know how to pronounce the kanas, you don't need to know what they mean. Maybe Mangapanda translation is better, I don't know, but they usually get the furigana wrong while the Mangastream doesn't (on the other hand, the Mangapanda is much better when it comes to romanizing the german terms related to the quincies). But, again, just with the raw to be sure which one is correct this time. - Gorenja (talk) 17:11, November 21, 2012 (UTC)