Forum:Spoiler Policy

Manga Spoilers
Bleach_Wiki:Spoiler_Policy, finally there...

That page, I think you already tought of it, is here to discuss/comment/talk about the new policy and the maybe-future changes.

I would like it to be made explicitly clear that the spoilers are not to be added until after the release of an ENGLISH scanlation. I asked this because this is what happened when latest chapter came out. Someone started adding content to a page after the raw came out but long before the english version. I reverted and left the comment "NO SPOILERS TILL AN ENGLISH VERSION IS OUT". However, my revert got reverted with the comment "Were does it say the english must be out?". Unfortunately my answer to that question had to be somewhat indirect. When I reverted the raw based content I had to say "Did you happen to miss the section about "Sleepy Fans"?". This I think is a flaw with the spoiler policy. It specifically mentions Sleepyfans but Sleepyfans aren't always the first english scanlators and it is somewhat of an indirect way of saying that the english chapter has to be out. So I say that we change the policy to specifically say "An english scanlation has to be out on a publicly accessible site" i.e. can't be release exclusively to for people with membership of a certain site or anything like that. I also suggest we remove the reference to Sleepyfans because, again with the latest chapter, the first english scanlators were CNet and it was only released on BleachExile. So technically this week me, Salibur, Yyp and pretty much everybody else violated the spoiler policy since we started adding content before Sleepyfans came out with their scanlation. Tinni 10:46, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I second this - it needs to be clarified. Also, FrankyHouse & Hueco Mundo Crew have released a scanlation of Bleach before Sleepyfans in the past too. SF may typically be the first, but not always. Yyp 10:54, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I really think that this needs to be addressed, as it is out on BleachExile before the Sleepyfans scan appears on Onemanga again. That makes it two weeks in a row. I'm not adding anything about it to the site, even though the chapter is now freely available in English. But there will be a load of edits by others that find it on BE. --Yyp 21:08, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Hopefully that will help.Salubri 21:55, October 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks Salubri. --Yyp 22:08, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Anime Spoilers
I know it is only applicable for the filler episodes, but shouldn't there be some sort of official guideline for adding content from the anime? I mean, the raw of the anime is out but the earliest sub is still hours away. Is it ok to start adding content? There should have a line or two about it in the spoiler policy. Also the latter part of this sentence no longer makes sense. We actually consider that untill the chapter is released by a publicly accessible site (and most likely replace the old chapter's informations on the main page of the wiki), he is still at the state of "Japanese Spoiler, unsure". Tinni 14:14, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

For the filler - yeah, there is an issue there alright. Nothing should be added until a subbed version is released, so that we can verify the accuracy of whatever is added to the wiki. It is fine for the canon episodes, as virtually all the information will already be on the wiki due to the manga.

In addition to that, the episode titles sometimes contain major spoilers (eg Byakuya's betrayal, a certain somebody's immanent re-appearance), I think that they should be covered by the spoiler policy too. Sometimes they are completely misleading (there was a recent one with Kazeshini in the title, but he only appeared for 2 minutes in the entire episode), but often they are revealing big info about what's happening in the episode. They are currently listed in the Episodes page. Maybe it would be best not to add the titles of the filler episodes until they have be released & subbed. --Yyp 16:08, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I concur. I felt the same way about the Byakuya instance. TomServo101 16:19, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I edited the Spoiler Policy to clarify some sentences. Hopefully, it makes more sense now. Let one of the admins know if anything remains unclear.

I completely agree with Yyp: information on new episodes should not be released until fansubs are out and easily accessible. I also agree on the episode title front. Even when the series isn't currently showing an anime-only arc, some people don't really follow the manga and titles can be ruin potential surprises. Twocents 16:25, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the titles from the Episodes page. They can now only be found on the Spoilers page. I'm working on something to add to the Bleach Wiki:Spoiler Policy about the anime. --Yyp 16:29, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, its updated now. --Yyp 16:40, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Canon anime images
Not something that needs to be dealt with immediately but I wanted to ask what the policy is going to be for canon anime images. I don't think it'll be a huge problem but given how eager people are for things like Ulquoirra's resurrection and Ichigo's second hollow form, those images are likely to be screencapped from the raw episode (which as the added benefit of being subtitle free) as soon as possible. Leading people to start inserting them into articles as soon as they can. So question is, would that be considered a spoiler or not? Do we still make them wait until the english subtitled episodes come out? Or is it cool to let them inserting pics as soon as they become available give that the story and manga images are already there and in most cases the black and white manga images will just be being replaced with coloured anime ones. Tinni  (Talk)  10:11, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

This is a interesting question. Specifically I don't think there is a policy thats against this. Though the policy is against putting up information form an anime episode before its english version is out. There doesn't seem to be anything the specifically says images currently just the information presented. This is due normally to a situation that has the anime filler, but If the information or pic is already there from the manga then how can a canon color version of it be a spoiler. I personally don't think it is, so regardless of if the episode is in english or not if it is manga-based anime it should be qualifiable that the picture be placed without incident, as its technically already up (in black and white). Salubri (Talk)  14:34, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

New development requires Spoiler Policy Change
If you guys haven't heard, Crunchyroll is now the licensed Bleach Streaming site. As a result, Dattabayo has dropped Bleach. They were the fastest and most reliable. [Animatrix] said their is a 50/50 chance they will continue, ELEMENTS - the other Bleach fansubber, hasn't issued any statements. Whichever way, we need to update our spoiler policy due to the change.

Crunchyroll will simulcast Bleach at the same time as TV Tokyo (which mean I will get it at the nice civilised time of 8:00PM ^.^), however, their simulcast is only for paid members (which I will be from next week... well next month after the free trial finishes). Non-members will get the episode from them a week later. If [Animatrix] continues, Bleach should be available to all pretty much when it is available to all now. If they don't and ELEMENTS is the only people who continue, then Bleach episodes won't be available until some days after it first comes out. I don't imagine Crunchyroll will have any impact on people who post Bleach episode raws. The point is, we can no longer demand that Bleach be available for "all" unless we say we are not going to make new episode information available on the site until Crunchyroll releases the sub a week after the episode first airs.

So, I recommend that we say that as soon as Crunchyroll starts/finishes their simulcast, people can start adding episode information. I mean, it is unfortunately that people who can't pay or simply can't access Crunchyroll (it's apparently not available in Asia and parts of you Europe) but Crunchyroll is a public site and starting the 8th of June, they will be the licensed streamers of Bleach. Tinni  (Talk)  22:19, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

PS. Here is the link to the Crunchyroll announcement regarding Bleach. Tinni  (Talk)  22:19, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, we shouldn't need to wait until the episodes are available to everybody before we update our articles based on the anime episodes. Once a reliable sub is available, even if it is only to paid members, then people should be free to work on the articles. Prophet of Sanghelios 00:03, June 4, 2010 (UTC)