Talk:Äs Nödt

He?
I'm confused did the translation of the new chapter state As to be male or are we just addressing it as such due to complaints of political incorrectness from certain users who shall go unnamed? Mr.Rig and Zig 00:01, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * In addition to that, it would also prevent a myriad of discussions and edits trying to fix the gender. Also, from what I gathered in English class, historically "He" has also been used to refer to persons of unknown gender. Recently though, people, mostly feminists, have been pushing to use the word "they" for those instance as it is the most gender neutral third person pronoun.


 * In actual answer to your question, there were numerous usage of the male 'he' in the most recent chapters. Then it was further echoed in the translations. So the general agreement that As is a male has been confirmed at this point for this wiki. It was not a decision that had to do with any real opinion but on what the information from the chapters were basically telling us.--

Well thanks for the response glad to know that. Mr.Rig and Zig 02:34, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Would it be possible to note said "numerous usages" of male gender in the original Japanese? I have seen male pronouns used for Äs Nödt in translations of the two chapters since Äs Nödt's return (566 and 567 as of this writing), but from what I have been able to gather from transcripts of those two chapters (I haven't seen the originals), no specifically male terms were used in the original Japanese. Only gender-neutral terms like "yatsu" were used. While I admit those transcripts may be incomplete, or mis-copied from the originals (or I could have missed something), it seems that to this point the author has made a concerted effort to hide Äs Nödt's gender. It seems odd that he would let it slip "in the most recent chapters" when there hasn't been any kind of special reveal by the character. --Quigonkenny (talk) 01:14, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Info box text hard to read
Hey this is just my opinion, but on As' info box and the rest of the Quincy info boxes, the white text against the black and white gradient classification boxes is next to impossible to read. The rest of the character boxes look fine, but perhaps the Quincy books need to be tinted with a little bit of color, maybe a pale blue? Thoughts?-- 12:09, February 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree, it is difficult to read the left side of the box. 12:36, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Much better now, thanks Sal. 22:35, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed much better, thanks again Sal!-- 23:56, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Tatar Foras his Vollstandig name?
Shouldn't we state that Tatar Foras as the name of his Vollstandig, as it Japanese translate to "God's Fear", and other Vollstandig such as Quilge's Biskiel and the Unnamed Sternritter who Shunsui, Grimaniel Japanese translations all include the word "God" like "Justice of God" and "Walk of God", I think that ability he used in the chapter should be entitled as "Enhanced The Fear", just like for Bambietta Vollstandig CoolJazzman (talk) 18:00, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

I was going to write the same thing about this. It's like You say, Tatar Foras is his Vollstandig's name, and that eye-like barrier is just his enhanced ability, The Fear. Btw, anyone knowns from which language name of his Vollstandig comes ? I ask just from pure curiosity :) Mad6 (talk) 19:00, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

I have been trying to find out, but I can't find out where the word originated from as well, sorry CoolJazzman (talk) 20:30, February 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Whoever did the scan for MangaPanda even admitted to not knowing what language "Tatar Foras" was even from. Like usual, though, the raw and cnet128's translation will be out within a few days, so once we see that we should have the Kanji, the Katakana, and a slightly better idea of the language of origin. After that...... I don't know.


 * I put Tatar Foras as the name of the ability because As specifically said it again right before explaining the ability, something many, many characters have done when explaining an ability. It's not like Bambietta's Enhanced The Explode because she was explaining her general ability at the time, whereas this has its own name and is in reference to a specific ability.--Xilinoc (talk) 23:21, February 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * My caveat is that he declared the name as soon as he transformed - the crazy eyeball sphere thing did not come until later on. But yeah, the most definitive way of knowing would be to just look at the raws and see if the kanji are arranged in the same way as the other Volstandig names are. Mohrpheus   (Talk)  00:24, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

For the record, Tatar Foras is not from any one language per se. Tatar is a Turkic language, and Foras is the name of a demon in the Lesser Key of Solomon, a grimoire composed in the mid 17th century. SilverRain (talk) 15:21, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

After doing some research I came to know that Tartar makes allusion to the "Tartarus" or "Tartaros", which was, in ancient Greek mythology, "the deep abyss used as a dungeon of torment and suffering for the wicked and as the prison for the Titans". In other words, something like a prison or hell. Foras indeed is the name of a demon in the Lesser Key of Solomon. So "Tartar Foras" may have not a translation but mean something like "Foras from the Tartarus" with the kanjis of "Fear of God (神の恐怖)". Source: http://naruto-spoiler.seesaa.net/article/388212016.html. --Masterjxf (talk) 20:20, February 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * The Tartarus allusion is unlikely. If that spoiler is correct, then the rendering of the ability is "Tataru Forasu," which would be "Tatar Foras." Compare to "Tartarus," which would be rendered as "Tarutarosu." At any rate, we'll have to wait for the RAW, but if those kanji are correct, then it is in all likelihood the Vollstandig's name. Mohrpheus   (Talk)  22:08, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

I'm closing this discussion, it's getting us nowhere. Best do what Mohrph says and wait til the raws come out and can be translated in the translation corner.