Forum:Ichigo Kurosaki (Volume 2)

This thread is for discussing Ichigo Kurosaki. For older topics on Ichigo, check out Forum:Ichigo Kurosaki. For Hollow Ichigo, see also this thread: Forum:Hollow Ichigo. Threads about Ichigo posted outside of here are liable to be merged in here if they are unlikely to attract many responses.

The Mystery of Ichigo
Ever since it was brought up by Aizen, I've been trying to understand what he meant by the truth about Ichigo. We never do hear about it since Isshin stepped in and interrupted. On top of that, these mysterious individuals from The Lost Substitute Shinigami Arc, particularly the one Ichigo saved, says that Ichigo shouldn't know enough about his family. The only thing that seems to make sense, is that Ichigo, may not even be Ichigo. His name may not even be his, despite the fact he's lived all his life with that name. I can only assume we'll learn more in later chapters, but this sounds like he may have a connection to the Royal Family. The only reasons I came to this conclusion would be the following:


 * Aizen mentions his strong reiatsu is connected to something Ichigo does not know about


 * Kūgo Ginjō says something odd about how Ichigo really shouldn't know enough about his family, especially his "supposed" father


 * The fact Ichigo seems to be noticeably generating reiatsu, despite using a Zanpakutou's ultimate technique

Another plausable guess is that he may have other connections (Royal Guard), and that he's not fully ready to comprehend them, which was why Isshin interrupted Aizen.

This is only speculation, and I cannot back these claims. Whatever results from future manga will reveal everything, soon.Lokker G (talk) 19:10, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

O for the love of... I am so tempted to slap a delete notice on this. Isshin WAS the answer! The "truth" about Ichigo is that he's the son of a Shinigami and a Human! That's the big mystery that Ichigo didn't know until Isshin turned-up! That's why Ichigo's first thought after seeing Isshin was "Oh, what Aizen said was drowned in the explosion but that's cool, I have my answer. OMG my father, who couldn't even see ghosts, is a Shinigami!!!" So your first point is mute. As for the rest, some of it was just a bad attempt at getting Ichigo to distrust those around him by the new guy (whatisname). The rest we just have to wait for revelations. But I strongly suspect, nothing, NOTHING Kubo has planned is as dramatic as what people are expecting. Especially since his big revelation goes totally over peoples head and they are still waiting for the big revelation as this post seems to demonstrate. Tinni  (Talk)  19:57, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

This same topic keep getting brought up this is discussed at length on another forum. Ichigo is the child of a (human) misaki and then the....arrival of isshin (shinigami). This is stated in the manga very simply. That was the answer to the rest of the sentence given physical form, hence why it wasn't necessary to say. Now speculation on the sight is simple if its probable from information in the storyline then speculate if its not then dont. To state anything like his name isn't his name or or he may not be himself, or it maybe a connection to the royal family is fan fiction. Why? where does it even go a hint that such a thing is a probable course of the story. Aizen reasoning of Ichigo's great reiatsu was already answered. Kugo states he shouldn't know a thing about his family, not yet anyway. Simply insisting Ichigo didn't know everything he thought he knew about his family. He never said Isshin wasn't his father or even mentioned his father in the conversation. The last part about the Royal Guard is also pure fan fiction. If you want to know whats going on read the manga and stop making up storyline and read the information they have given you which is a basic answer without hidden meaning. If you continue to make up stuff then specualtion policy does allow you to be blocked. We can't allow misinformation anywhere on the sight especially information that isn't backed by information already presented. --Salubri (Talk)  20:12, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Inconsistencies regarding dialogue
Fair enough, Ichigo's inheritance is dead obvious; Isshin is a Shinigami, and his powers were passed onto his son. The thing that's bugging me, is why go through the song and dance of displacing Ichigo's concerns, and saying he knew about him since he was born. It's not the same BS discussed in the other forum, and I made it clear I've got nothing to back this up, so please don't hack me down, yet ignore that fact. Aizen stated that Ichigo was more than the child of a living human and a Shinigami. He may have a God-complex, but it's hard not to supress the curious notion there might be something to what he said. This has gotten out of hand, so, either understand I'm not attempting to muck up the Watercooler with speculation and half-***ed theories, or remove this, so it's never brought up again.Lokker G (talk) 21:19, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

We already gave you the answer. Aizen never said he was more than the child of a human and a Shinigami. He said because he was the child of a Human and... dialogue gets broken up by Isshin's arrival, completing the sentence. There is nothing more to it. Aizen says he has known about Ichigo from birth, how he has is not known but Ichigo is merely the child of a human and a Shinigami--God (Pray)  21:23, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yea there is too much reading into this point. He never says that Ichigo "was more than the child of a human and a shinigami" as you claim. He says Ichigo has led a special existence from the moment of his conception because he is the child of a human and shinigami. Thats all I had to say.--Salubri (Talk)  21:42, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Fullbring
I honestly hope that Ichigo's fullbring is not going to be ripped off from Shaman King. I already know I'm pushing it just by saying that, so I'll leave it at that. I've been hearing all these theories about how as his Fullbring progresses, more and more of Tensa Zangetsu will be revealed. I, for one, am probably going to let out a yell of frustration if that's the case. Why? For one, that would mean that Ichigo would have no new powers, he'd just be using an oversized Tensa Zangetsu. I honestly hope that Kubo expands on his fullbring being used primarily for defending, and being able to launch the occasional offensive. Because, although it's really not up to me, that would be a much more original idea. An oversized sword for high attack power has already been done. Aeron Solo wuz here (talk) 19:00, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

That's another thing that bothered me (and I know this for certain, this time): Ichigo can now move superfast by supposedly using his powers on his feet. This is starting to look familiar, plus the concept of a personal object being utilized as one's power has similarity to another group. It's still up in the air as to how these people should be classified, but their abilities match what's already been said: The ability to influence objects one is familiar with, creating powerful abilities from them, and are activated by a strong feeling as the trigger: dreams, pride, etc. Not only that, but they can affect their own environment using their ability to pull on the soul of objects and substances like liquid.Lokker G (talk) 18:14, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me, or does anyone see the changed mark on Ichigo's badge as a pointer (and pun) to Xcution? (hint: big X in the middle.) Aeron Solo wuz here (If you wanna talk)  01:16, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ichigo sucks
i think ichigo sucks a fighting

i think that cause his bankai with a hollow mask compares to ulquiorra bare hands

also Shunsui Kyōraku could beat the first espada with his shiki only

soo does anyone agree with me ?

Not at all. Ichigo was a fifteen year-old boy at the time. Kyōraku has hundreds of years of experience. So Kyōraku being more skilled than Ichigo in the use of his Zanpakutō is a given. Also, have you forgotten that this is the same Ichigo that put Aizen down when none among the thirteen captains of the Gotei 13, or the eight member Visored, or even among Isshin, Urahara, or Yoruichi could do it themselves? Half the time, the above mentioned fighters were fighting Aizen at the same time. For a fifteen year-old, Ichigo is a very powerful individual. Ten Tailed Fox   (Talk with me) 12:08, August 15, 2011 (UTC)