User blog comment:Lemursrule/THE ARRANCAR ARC IS OVER!/@comment-1211470-20100928105600/@comment-1211470-20100928212953

No plotkai is deus ex machina but what YTOfficer01 describe is not deus ex machina. As I said, just because you don't like an outcome, doesn't make the outcome a deus ex machina. What proof do you have that Zommari's attack can't be below a Danku? You assumed that because he's an Espada his attack might be a high level kido. Why? What says that it has to be a high level kido? Byakuya is a captain who is extremely good in kido. Why can't his chantless danku stop Zommari?


 * Not saying it should be, all I'm saying is it's waaaaay too coincidental and conveniant that it mysteriously is able to negate his attack. It's akin to the Deidara-Sasuke battle of the Naruto Manga.

Face it, you don't like that the Espada lost. So you are calling what happened plotkai. Not going to wash. Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it a deus ex machina. It has a specific definition and what happened, doesn't fall under it.


 * Face it, I'm not saying "I don't like that an Espada lost" your basing that entirely off of speculation and I find it offensive that your lumping me in with other people that try to justify why characters they liked died. All I have said is I see it as too much of an excuse to allow a popular character to live against an opponent who by all rights had the exact tool to kill him from the outset. I've not yet ventured ANY opinion on the fights outcome only it's course.

Indeed, even using the fandom definition of Plotkai, your argument rings hollow. From Urban Dictionary,

Plotkai means a way for an event happening without explaing itself, like why it happend, and what triggered it. (Mostly used in Anime and Manga series, when a character gains an unexpected powerboost or new abbility just so he can defeat someone stronger than him/her.) These events will be left unexplained nearly allways, for there is no logical explanation for them, exept Plotkai, which means the actual event had to happen to keep the continuity of the story's plot, hence the name: Plot-kai.

Ichigo being able to cut, then defeat Kenpachi is Plotkai, since no other characters have been able to do this, including the ones much stronger than Ichi. He was able to do it because hes the main hero. Thats plotkai. (reference: Bleach)


 * I've never put that down to Plotkai I'd of put that scenario down to protagonist power. Where the 'main character' is able to achieve a usually impossible feat by virtue of being the main character.

A mix of the words "Plot" and "bankai". Refers to a plot twist in the manga series Bleach where the main antagonist (Aizen) appears defeated, only to be revealed that he used hypnosis to switch himself and Momo, injuring her instead.

Whoa! All that time they were beating the crap out of Momo instead of Aizen? Major Plotkai!

As it can be seen, no matter how you look at it - following the strict definition of Deus Ex Machina as a literally device or the fandom definition of plotkai - a Kido and shunpo master defeating an opponent using kido and shunpo, and a master battle tactician known for pre-planning defeating an opponent through pre-planning and tactics is not deus ex machina or plotkai.


 * Again I have not said that it's plotkai he won I said it's -how- he won that seemed rushed, overly conveniant and trying to prevent a popular character from encountering actual danger or threat to thier continuity. While for the most part TK is very good at avoiding DEM and PK he has his moments...they are rare but they do appear.