User talk:SerialSniper14

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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Salubri (Talk) 02:17, December 9, 2009

Image policy
Hi. Thanks for adding the image of Kenryu's shikai. However, as set out in our Image Policy, all images from the anime/manga should have and  templates added to them. Please add these to your image, filling in the details as best you can. The image policy should give all the information you need, but if you have any questions then feel free to ask myself or another admin. Thank you. -- Yyp  (Talk)  19:30, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Referencing Project
The project itself is actually run by a group called the "Policy & Standards Committee", so it seems to be their page. I didn't see it at the time I reverted your edit there, but Morpheus did it too. I think the page itself is actually something they're using to help them determine which pages need references; I don't think you should have to put your name on it, since you're not a part of the committee (Morpheus, on the other hand, is). Still, it helps to reference pages, so you did help out a lot. Thanks for improving Hanza's page. Arrancar109 (Talk)  07:38, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

I might take a look at the articles later to see if anything needs to be checked, so I'd leave it alone anyway. You never know, something could have been missed; either a reference, or something not yet added onto the article itself until later. Arrancar109 (Talk)  08:18, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Actually in this case SerialSniper14 did the right thing. When the committee is running the projects we do ask that everyone who decides to help us, including non-committee members, put their name next to projects and let us know how they are getting along with the project. This is so we don't start working on something that's already been done etc, etc. So SerielSniper14 you did the right thing and thanks for choosing to help us. However, because that project is new we haven't decided when we can declare the referencing of a page as "complete". So might I suggest that when you have done all you can, just put down the status *needs checking for completion*. I'll put something in the page explaining what's going on. Once again, thank you for helping. Tinni 09:11, December 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright, I clarified everything. Sorry again for the confusion. The project is new and so we are still getting our bearing. Once again, thanks for helping and I hope you will continue to assist us with the referencing project. Tinni 09:25, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Okay great! Thanks for clarifying everything, I definitely feel less like a noob. :P I'll contribute what I can to the articles in need of help. --SerialSniper14 13:00, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Alrighty, I checked up on Demora's page. The referencing format you used seems a tad bit odd and confusing, but seems fairly accurate. I went ahead and corrected the format, but that's not why I'm here. I actually looked into your manga references and realized they're actually incomplete. When we reference manga chapters, we usually end up referencing the page numbers too. A manga page reference should look something like this:

That's how a manga reference should look. In regards to that, it's because it helps to specify when an ability is used, when a quote is said, etc. Also, you'll notice that I use double apostrophes around "Bleach" instead of  . That's because double apostrophes (not quotation marks) is a simpler method of italicizing text (triple apostrophes results in bold text). Just a little tip for the future. Hope this helped you out a bit. Arrancar109 (Talk)  20:43, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't it be more prudent then to reference things individually in a chapter? I mean if we put page numbers in the references then, in most cases, it would end up as "Chapter XXX, Pages 2-18" because of one small detail that happened in the beginning to something that happened at the end.  Or if a quote take up an entire chapter.  Just doesn't seem very helpful or anymore specific. SerialSniper14 00:12, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * You can go Pages2,5-8 is acceptable. Basically, references are there so that people can see what's happening for themselves. So it is best to give the most precise reference that's possible. Thanks again for your help. Tinni   (Talk)  00:23, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * On that note, should I mark page numbers with respect to their order in the wiki? i.e. (2.0 2.1 2.2) goes to Pages 3, 7-11, 5-6 SerialSniper14 00:28, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * I am a bit confused as to what you are asking. Compound references can only be used for the exact same reference. For exmaple, Demore punchs chad . Demore dies . You don't lump all of them together. Of course if Demore has something else in another part of his article that also needs to be referenced to chapter x, page 3-4 then you use the ref name="" function to reuse the same reference. Tinni   (Talk)  00:42, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * Now I'm confused. Look at the reference edits on Demōra's page.  I separated Chapter 243 of the manga because they would have otherwise been garbled and just a bunch of page numbers, as they quotes occurred in different sentences.  Also I ordered the page numbers with respect to the order of how things happened in the sentence. Is this acceptable? SerialSniper14 01:10, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

That seems fine. Tinni  (Talk)  01:34, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Hi SerialSniper14. Just wanted to say thanks for helping out with the references project and to try and clear up some confusion over the references. First, the Manual of Style gives examples of exactly how references should be styled, which seems to be how you are doing them, so that's fine. However, you are unnecessarily combining references that should not be combined and it is a bit confusing. A reference should be given for each individual point, rather than one reference for the whole paragraph that gives pages for each and every point in the paragraph. Also, about your use of the function, I think you would be best served to reference each thing individually and then once that is done, look back over them and see if any of the references are for the same page of the same chapter as another reference. Then combine those and only those using the. I think an example to illustrate what I mean might help, so this is from Demora's page.

It was:
 * Chad mocks Demōra's appearance without his mask and then renews the attack with another punch, but the Arrancar emerges and does not accept his defeat. He decides to use his most powerful attack by shooting his own tongue as a projectile against Chad, but Chad stops the attack after falling back a few meters and leaves the Arrancar stunned.

It should be:
 * Chad mocks Demōra's appearance without his mask and then renews the attack with another punch, but the Arrancar emerges and does not accept his defeat. He decides to use his most powerful attack by shooting his own tongue as a projectile against Chad, but Chad stops the attack after falling back a few meters and leaves the Arrancar stunned.

I hope that is useful. Please let me know if you have any questions. -- Yyp  (Talk)  23:54, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay I don't have a problem with doing that, I just thought you guys wanted them referenced by chapter with the pages grouped. SerialSniper14 00:04, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Either way though, I went ahead and finished up Demora's referencing, so all that's left is for Morpheus to verify it. Arrancar109 (Talk)  00:06, December 24, 2009 (UTC)