Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-27606805-20160114003153/@comment-27565137-20160201233617

SternRitterÄs wrote: Wri-El man, youre obsessed with Vastolordes. This forum is about stark being a natural arrancar. You keep rambling on to other topics and it makes it hard to continue a discussion, lest we just ignore your posts. Ulquiorra was shown to become an arrancar without Aizens help. That is canon, drawn by Kubo himself.

As for the OP, well, clearly he was a natural Arrancar because he was already one when Aizen first met him, ergo Aizen cant have created him and the fact that we saw Ulquiorra and even at the very begining of Bleach, the substitute shinigami arc, grandfisher was created as one by other arrancar, not Aizen and the hogyoku. So we know it is very possible

And you seem to be forgetting the OP thread title. What is the pinnacle of hollow evolution?! Vasto Lordes!

Aizen goal initially was all about having all the Espadas being Vasto Lordes.

Now don't blame me if Kubo went ahead and completely dismissed a big chunk of what he should've done and explained accurately.

You talk about me being obcessed with Vasto Lordes, but I wasn't the one calling Ichigo a Vasto Lorde, after his hollow transformation during the fight with Ulquiora. Half the world fanbase at the time went nuts with Ichigo being a Vasto Lorde and I was like "Are these people on meth?! Where is it written he's a Vasto Lorde."

Starrk was indeed a Vasto Lorde, so was Barragan, Harribel and Ulquiora. Other than that it's all guess work. What set Starrk apart was the simple fact he didn't need the Hougyoku to become neither a Arrancar or more powerful.

Characters like the Espadas 5 to 9, were clearly in some way altered by the Hougyoku. But Starrk for all intended purposes didn't need it, seeing he already considered himself too powerful.

There was a lot of stuff left unexplained or simply rushed and I've had my fair share of people with the wildest theories, that quite frankly don't even have basis on anything that even remotely happened.

For example. Can you tell me what Yammy was? No! Why? Because no one knows. For someone supposed to be the strongest Espada he was defeated quite easily. Much more so than Starrk, Barragan or even Harribel.