Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4115054-20140903063305/@comment-26475399-20151020193454

Shambankai wrote: That being the main point i think of, i also think of how angry he seemed to be when Gin tried to kill him. He was all screaming and irate, and then comes his new form and it's, "I knew you would do that." Whether he found Gin out in the beginning, middle, or even toward the end to the point where Gin made his heroic attempt, Aizen obviously prepared for the possibility, and even then it still seemed to tick him off when Gin took a stab at it (pun intended).

Wow. Hah, at the time of posting this, i was a few months past my first ever (and at the time, only ever) viewing of Bleach. I remembered this scene in the wrong order. Hah, so pardon that little mistake.

And after having re-watched Bleach recently, i realized that my memory exaggerated Aizen's reaction toward Gin. Aizen was screaming during his next evolutionary transformation, for dramatic effect, of course (maybe just a smidge of anger; Gin probably did what Aizen wanted Ichigo to do ["kill" him to allow his next stage of evolution to kick in]).

Aizen admits to being on to what Gin was planning. He didn't care, because he would easily pummel Gin anytime. He was, however, quite stricken with anger by Gin's surprise.

Just wanted to clear up that little mistake of mine.

Mugen Galath wrote: "You have lost, Kurosaki Ichigo. Behold! My Zanpakutou is disappearing. You of all people must understand what this means. The Hōgyoku has determined that I no longer require a Zanpakutou! I will be like you, who became one with his Zanpakutou and his powers! No, I will eclipse you, who have now lost those powers, and conquer heights far beyond your imagination! You're finished, Kurosaki Ichigo!" - Sōsuke Aizen, before Kisuke Urahara's sealing Kidō activates

Aizen clearly states here that he is currently merging with his Zanpakutō spirit and gaining its powers. Though you can argue that the Hōgyoku rejected Aizen as its master, there is still the question of when exactly it did this. After rewatching the scene, it seems to happen once Urahara's Kidō goes into effect, which by this time, it is safe to assume Aizen's Zanpakutō has already merged with him.

Mugen Galath, i still highly favor your theory. It is indeed very brilliant, and you provide excellent facts with which to back it up.

I have recently re-watched Bleach, and when i got to the part of Aizen's dramatic defeat, i observed where Aizen seems to prepare an attack toward Urahara. That's when his halfway crumbled blade just exploded, prompting Aizen to just lose it all.

This makes me wonder if Aizen was merging with his Zanpakuto, the status being displayed through how far the blade crumbled (the blade has crumbled completely, then the merging process is complete). If that's the case, since it didn't finish crumbling, I'm assuming then that Aizen couldn't be partially or halfway merged with his Zanpakuto, but rather he'd just go back to normal, like what everybody thought really happened.

It could, however, be that Aizen was already completely merged, just that the blade kinda crumbled away on it's own, and served as no indication of progress whatsoever. Just a visual gimmick of confirmation, i guess.

I dunno, man. I'd say such a good theory is still not even close to being out the window yet.

Mugen Galath wrote: I am 100% sure that Aizen has merged with Kyōka Suigetsu. Though Xilinoc states that Kanzen Saimin can't affect time perception, current studies show that time perception is actually a sense of the body. Though I admit that Aizen states that Kanzen Saimin only affects the traditional five senses, there is nothing stated about his Bankai, which Aizen would have quick and easy access to since...he is his Bankai? Though this is only theoretical, it seems much more likely than "Yhwach forgot what time it was".

I agree completely that this is much more reasonable than suggesting that Yhwach simply just wasn't watching the clock.

I have my own General Discussion thread, "New Theory on Aizen?" (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:104037) where I talk about a theory of mine, involving Aizen possibly being part Quincy. Read up on that, and feel free to contribute, if you'd like.

Whether or not Aizen is part Quincy (just adds more details and tension if Aizen really is), i'm positive that Aizen has always known about Yhwach. Have they been in cahoots? That's open for theorizing, i suppose.

I'm guessing that while Yhwach visited the imprisoned Aizen, they really had alot to talk about. I'ma keep this one short, but i'm basically thinking of a scenario where Aizen actually wasn't performing any kinda move to manipulate Yhwach's senses.

I'm wondering if they didn't just have an awful lot to discuss. And with all of that, Yhwach completely losing track of time... just because there was that much to talk about.

I'm very interested in learning what their conversation was like, nonetheless.