Talk:Ichigo Kurosaki

Species
Since Ichigo lost his Shinigami powers, why is he still classified as a "Human/Vizard" and not just "Human"?--私はあくまで執事ですから - "I'm one hell of a butler." ("Heaven?") 02:56, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ichigo said he is losing his powers, not that he has lost them. We wait until we have confirmation that he has lost his powers--God (Pray)  02:58, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

alright--私はあくまで執事ですから - "I'm one hell of a butler." ("Heaven?") '02:59, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well even if ichigo looses his soul reaper powers, he still has his hollow powers. {rigoberto 60} 02:59, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

That is pure speculation. And not very likely either, since Tensa Zangetsu's fused form represented Ichigo's spiritual power as a whole. Mohrpheus (talk) 15:09, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

There is no evidence that Ichigo will retain his hollow powers. Both Zangetsu and Hollow Ichigo said farewell to Ichigo in their merged form. Therefore, stop it with the "he's going to retain his hollow powers" business. Tinni  (Talk)  15:12, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Saigo no Getsuga Tenshou
Just a request, but could the transformation currently dubbed as "The Getsuga" be moved under the Final Getsuga Tenshou section? The abilities section is supposed to be more about effects the ability itself, rather than how it was obtained. That information is already contained in the plot section anyway, there really isn't a need to be redundant. Saigo no Getsuga Tenshou is the transformation, with Ichigo describing it as becoming Getsuga itself. Mohrpheus (talk) 01:16, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Since it is a large edit, I will post it here first. Would anybody be opposed to the below replacing the current Final Getsuga Tenshou section? I reorganized it since the transformation is the Final Getsuga Tenshou, with Ichigo just describing its effect as "becoming the Getsuga." It also helps make the section a little more compact, without removing any information or references (a new reference is actually included here):


 * By using this technique, Ichigo becomes the Getsuga itself. It is referred to as the “Final” Getsuga Tenshou because if Ichigo uses it, he loses all of his Shinigami powers. For the duration of the ability, Ichigo’s hair turns black, and becomes waist-length. Black bandages form around his body, tightly wrapped around his torso, right arm, and face, ending just beneath his eyes. The remains of a tattered black cloak cover his lower body. In this form, Ichigo’s body constantly emits black reiatsu, most of which is focused around his right arm. Being in this form allows Ichigo to use Mugetsu; once it is used, the transformation dissipates, and his Shinigami powers begin to fade away.
 * Ichigo seemingly generates a blade of black energy out of thin air, and grabs it. Doing so brings forth a massive veil of black spiritual energy that covers the surrounding area and darkens the sky, damaging anything caught within the darkness. The energy then recedes, dissipating into the sky.

Mohrpheus (talk) 16:06, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ichigo falling
Can anyone explain why ichigo was falling to the ground? A normal shinigami-power loss or what?

We cannot be sure, we will have to wait for the next chapter to find out why.--God (Pray)  16:34, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ummm...WHAT?

 * "Ichigo calmly states finished and asks Aizen if some shit like this is gonna end him as he slashes at his chest forcing Aizen to release him as well as destroying the circle of charged spiritual energy"

Um, since when do we add curse words to the summary of an article? Perhaps I'm just overreacting but I'm almost positive that there was a policy about that. Also, most of the grammar towards the end of the Fake Karakura Town arc in this section needs to be revised, because some sentences don't make sense. ---Ten Tailed Fox talk page 17:00, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

In the actual translation thats what he says. There is a manual of style point on using curse words doesn't pertain to Kubo's written words though. Once again thats a grammar corner concern and not to be brought up on the actual page. --Salubri (Talk)  00:26, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Color Pages
Sorry, but there are color pages for Ichigo's Getsuga form, so may I ask why the picture has not been updated yet, just so I don't do it without upsetting anybody.--Lavaros (talk) 04:49, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

That color page is covered with captions, the Bleach logo, and a watermark, so we can't use it to portray the form. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  04:52, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, if it is acceptable to use it, Ju-Ni uploaded a cleansed version, caption-free and with no watermark. The only problem with it is the huge Bleach logo in the top corner, I don't know what you think. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  05:03, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I am going to take a look, it may be possible to get a clean cut of the image if it is cropped properly--God (Pray)  05:05, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I already had the picture so I cropped it an resized it (it was huge) The quality is very good, but it's up to you. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  05:16, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, it looks great Lia - had no idea that could even be managed, especially with that kind of quality. I'm all for it being put in the article then. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  05:18, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, that looks much better than the one I just got finished cropping. I say put it in the article as I have undone numerous edits of people saying the bandages are black--God (Pray)  05:21, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, when I found it in Ju-Ni's page I was totally wow'ed too. They did an amazing job cleaning it (and of course I had to keep it). So we replace the black and white one with this one? Honestly, the bandages are clearly not black, even in the b&w they look at least grey-ish. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  05:24, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Really not liking these lets throw in the pics because they are colored concepts. Color on the article should only be filled by the anime pics. The exception was made on Aizen's page because of constant whining the pic currently up is the designated one for his zanpakuto section and should be only be replaced with a similar color one be it either manga or anime. Either way anime will eventually replace it. If the pic is to placed it should be in the plot section. --Salubri (Talk)  07:24, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well in Aizen's case, there was never any issue with throwing in the pic, because as Arrancar109 said, it was an official coloring from Kubo. The pic currently up actually took place during the course of the story, so it is better suited for the plot section. The color pic is just there for show, like any other color spread; it is better suited in the abilities section, which has the purpose of portraying the ability's appearance. We're a ways off from the Deicide arc, even more so if we get another filler arc. Mohrpheus   (Talk)  12:19, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I am not pro this picture at all! It's a colour spread NOT a coloured panel. I mean, the first page of chapter 422 was a colour page. If we were to use the panel of Hollow Ichigo + Zangetsu merge in their articles that would be fine because that's exactly like using a panel from the manga. Which was the case for Aizen as well and even the pic I suggested for Tosen, but which wasn't included. Yes they are colour BUT it just so happened that those particular manga panels were done in colour. Back during the Soul Society arc, Kubo did the entire Byakuya vs Ichigo battle in colour. Had the Bleach wiki been around then, not allowing colour would have meant that we couldn't have any panels from that manga at all because they were all in colour. However, a colour manga page is different from a colour-spread. The image we used is a colour spread! No different from the other colour spreads. Indeed, the "colour spread" for the chapter from which Aizen's colour panel came from was this and Tosen's colour panel was accompanied by this colour spread. The colour manga page from chapter 421 just showed the colouring of Hollow Ichigo + Zangetsu. That colour page was accompanied by the above colour spread. I don't think we should start allowing colour spreads because they aren't not really part of the manga storyline but fanservice. I think we should remove the colour spread and make it clear in the image policy that colour manga panels are ok but colour spreads are not. Tinni  (Talk)  14:07, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

While I agree that most color spreads are typically fan service, this one is different from the others in that it is clearly relevant to the manga content, rather than showing characters playing dress-up. This is the canon colored portrayal of Ichigo's Getsuga form, ideally no different from the Aizen case, in that it is showing how Kubo intended for the form to be colored. This is no different than the portions of the All Color But The Black color spreads that we use to portray other characters' Zanpakutou and canon colorations (i.e. Yachiru). Mohrpheus  (Talk)  14:38, October 4, 2010 (UTC)