Talk:Ichibē Hyōsube

Ichimonji's power.
Ichimonji's power is control over the color black, not control over darkness like is stated on his page. http://puu.sh/dgEii/ecc5724f75.jpg わしの力は「黒」 = My power is "black".

It's not that it gains power from darkness, but from anything that is colored black. Because it's a paintbrush, which uses ink.


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Just "blasted"?
I can actually see in the image, that his entire torso has been erased. I see actual pieces of his rib bones in midair, the spine from his waist, his arms and head no longer attached to a body. Shouldn't it be changed from "blasted" to erased or something more accurate? Yatanogarasu (talk) 18:30, December 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Personally, I'm for using blasted until we see the full extent of the damage (presumably) next chapter, such that we can more accurately describe what happened. Right now, the only image we've got is somewhat unclear as to the extent of the damage.--Xilinoc (talk) 20:22, December 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, I guess you're right. Yatanogarasu (talk) 00:55, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

Senri Tsutensho
...so why is my inclusion of him using the giant foot and hands being reverted? It's clear that it's of the same technique. And even if you think otherwise, at least include mention of it in Ichibe's P@A section...SilverRain (talk) 04:42, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Shinuchi
Since "Shinuchi" is the old term of the more common "Bankai", shouldn't it use "Bankai" instead for the "Shinuchi Special Ability" ? The other pages uses "Bankai Special Ability" so this page must use it too? The same for the "Shin'uchi: Shirafude Ichimonji" part. --Rainzoneg (talk) 11:55, February 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * Not quite. See, Ichimonji was one of the, if not the, first Zanpakutō to attain an "evolved" form; back then, this was known as Shinuchi, not Bankai. Shinuchi is what Ichibei has to call out in order to make his Zanpakutō enter that evolved form, not Bankai, so its name is Shinuchi. If he shows the two can somehow be used interchangeably later on, we might change things, but right now what he has is most technically not a Bankai, but what a Bankai is at its base level with a different names. Hope that makes sense.--Xilinoc (talk) 15:29, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Wrong reading
一兵衛 is Ichibee not Ichibē. Because 兵衛 are two kanji, the pronunciation is split between them, so it's "Ichi-be-e" and not "Ichi-bee" or "Ichi-bei". There are only a couple of words native to Japanese that uses ē within a single kanji and they are 姉さん and 姐さん. This page should be at "Ichibee Hyōsube".— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 21:25, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, so have you checked with other translators in the Translation Corner to see if they agree? 13:47, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Shunpo prowess
Hey, I just wanted to ask why is Ichibe called a Shunpo Expert rather than a Master? Considering how quickly he caught up with Yhwach after sending him flying that huge distance, I think he could qualify as a Shunpo Master. But I wanted to hear why this decision was originally reached. Timjer (talk) 07:59, August 7, 2020 (UTC)


 * Thought I could blame someone else's decision-making process for that, but it turns out I'm the one who added the classification and I don't fully remember if I discussed it with Sal first, so I'm gonna assume I was just playing it safe at the time/waiting for more instances - but you make a good point, we cite Shunsui's massive leap during the Soul Society arc as the biggest evidence of his mastery, so it only makes sense to do so with Ichibē as well, who I think made an even larger jump here. I'll make the change.--Xilinoc (talk) 08:14, August 7, 2020 (UTC)

Kido Mastery?
I am inclined to have Ichibe's Kido skill upgraded to Master. He can cast mid-level Kido with just the name (like Aizen) and can shatter Yhwach's Blut Vene Anhaben with a spell no one has ever used before, without so much as an incantation (as an aside, Yhwach's Blut Vene is strong enough to cancel out Ichigo's "fake" Bankai Getsuga Tensho). That doesn't seem like a lot to be considered Master, but by contrast, all it took for Isshin was to create two barriers, one within a charm, and one that erased all traces of Reiatsu, even from Aizen.Gold3263301 (talk) 10:01, 23 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm actually inclined to agree myself. Not only would it make sense considering his status, but as you said he even uses "Secret Kido" (that I assume not just anyone can use) to quite a degree of power. Plus if Isshin can be considered a Kido Master with even lesser feats... Timjer (talk) 11:30, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Master Swordsman & Immense Strength
Hello I’m here today to discuss Ichibei and how I believe he should be a Master Swordsman instead of an Expert swordsman. As someone who leads the Royal Guard and is older than Yamamoto, I believe it’s an appropriate choice. He clashed evenly with Yhwach who could easily fight Ichigo in Bankai and had the upper hand the whole fight.

Also, I believe his physical strength should be upgraded from Enhanced to Immense. This man literally sent Yhwach flying back to the Soul King Palace entrance with just a simple swing of his weapon. Senri Tsūtenshō sent Yhwach flying 1000 ri or 2,440 miles away. That takes immense physical strength to do and to just casually send him back like that is insane. We normally see characters at best send other characters through buildings or simply to the ground. Any thoughts?(MasterCTP1 (talk) 20:07, 24 August 2023 (UTC))
 * Both work for me.--Xilinoc (talk) 20:10, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Ichibei’s page is locked.(MasterCTP1 (talk) 20:18, 24 August 2023 (UTC))


 * Now that an agreement is reached (and I concur with MasterCTP1), I'll update the page. Timjer (talk) 20:55, 24 August 2023 (UTC)