Forum:Baragan Luisenbarn

I have some new info that might towards Barragan being a vasto lorde: -Vastos are stronger than the average captain, and he was stronger than Soifon, who is probably the average captain. -He has a humanoid resurrecion -He was the RULER of Las Noches. Seriously, that HAS to mean something. I doubt an adjuchas would rule hueco mundo, let alone las noches.

I don't think that he was really stronger than Soifon. It´s just that his special ability slowed her down. In term of reiatsu I doubt he would win over so easily. Just remember... When Soifon hitted Barragan with her point-blanked Bankai, he was really badly hurt. And you can´t know that he wasn't just an adjuchas. Who knows what Vasto Lordes personalities are... Maybe they don't want to rule as they are lazy as Starrk or something.

I dont see any real information that would make him such a thing being that we dont know enough about vasto lorde to spot one.Salubri 20:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Barragan: He was the size of a Human, the king of Hueco Mundo, incredibly powerfull and even looked like a human(skeleton). Note it took two captain level shinigami to beat him.His power is so great even he is not immune to it.Theres no real dfference bettwen his resurrection na dh what he looked like before Azien other than his crown and Gran Cida. Plus he was pretty much ruling hueco mundo(or part of it) before aizen came along, why would an aduchas ahve such as high standing and such an ability as that. Makes no sense plus the fact that the vizards have to team up with the shinigami(cept for Rose and Love who have not teamed up with any shinigami, but still its sill two captain level shinigami on one arrancar) to beat the espada.Maybe not haaribel seeing as she was pretty much screwed till WW came but I think Stark and Barragan are Vasto Lorde.Saimaroimaru 20:48, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

What i see is barragan dead. If the opinion of some people is that he was a vasto lorde (something impossible to confirm, seeing as having a position in hueco mundo dosent guarantee dominion over all, one would think if he was so powerful then the other vasto lorde would have a problem with him takin authority seeing that he would be a deterrence to their power, when logically if he wasnt one and lower then that level they would allow him his fantasy of being god-king as he is not a danger to them, even aizen isn't really a concern for them it seems) then the battle against them is gonna go by real quick cause in the end all it would take is a captain using bankai and/or possibly a vizard.Salubri 20:59, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Or he simply could've been a powerful Vasto Lorde that even most other Lordes wouldn't be interested in messing with him, especially with that huge army backing him up and all (stronger Vasto Lorde with army > weaker Vasto Lorde). Even Grimmjow's gang knew about Vasto Lorde so he couldn't simply have been delusional and not know about Lorde. Plus, Ulquiorra is a dead ringer for the one confirmed VL picture and he's only 4th. ZeroSD 00:09, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Your point? Vasto Lorde doesn't not mean win.And or? Sorry he had Soifon in the plam of his hands. He aged her attckes so that they explode beofre they reach him. Why would a aduchas has such a powerful ability. Note azien has at least twice the reistu of a cpatin, he count s as two captains plus hi sshikai abillity would give hima great advantage as wwe have seen the Barragan flash back.It took two captain level opponents to beat him an dthey him him on a guess.Barragan may have been the only hollow in his espada that was a threat to him because of his abillity, way to ignore everything else in my post.Saimaroimaru 00:24, 29 August 2009 (UTC)