Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner

The Translation Corner is a group of Bleach Wiki users who the task to translate the various names, abilities, techniques and etc. found in the Bleach Universe. Being that Bleach is a Japanese manga that use Japanese, Chinese, Indian, German, Spanish and English language in various instances and cases, the use of translators are a focal point to the continuation of accuracy on the wiki. All users should read our Translation Guidelines before you start translating.

Roles of the Translation Corner
The following are the duties of the corner:


 * 1. To assure the correctness of all translations that are presented on the site.


 * 2. To determine the outcome of Contentious Translations: If a translation is questioned at all, that should be brought up in this section. In this way a translator, committee member or admin can explain why the translation is used or conversation can take place for translations that are harder to classify.


 * 3. To determine the correct translation of Zanpakutō (names, release calls, etc.): This section is for requests for translation of zanpakuto and zanpakuto related translations.


 * 4. To determine the correct translation of Character and element (e.g. devices) names: This section is for requests for translation of characters/techniques/equipment and general key words.


 * 5. To determine the correct translation of General/Other translation issues (e.g. conjugation/miscellanea): This section is for requests about translations that don't fit any particular criteria such as conjugation or such things such as accents used in the names.

Associate Members

 * Adam Restling (Primary Japanese Translator)
 * MarqFJA (Secondary Japanese Translator)
 * (Japanese)
 * Lia Schiffer (Primary Spanish Translator)
 * Vraieesprit (Japanese to English Translation)

References & Sources

 * Kanji-to-English:
 * Tangorin
 * Mahou Kanji Dictionary
 * Kanji Networks
 * OldNihongo.J-Talk.Com
 * Basic Japanese verbal data: The imperative inflection of Japanese verbs

Associate Box
Ok folks I have finally gotten around to makeing the Associate Box. You can put it on your user page using the command. Below is what the box looks like. Tinni  (Talk)  14:37, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Translation Guidelines

 * Anyone doing any form of translation. Looking up on Google Translate or similar translation tools, is not translating. You are not doing the site any favors by doing amateur translation. Please refrain from using such tools.


 * This is not a conversation page. It is a simple question and answer page for translation. All conversations should be held on a particular user talk page or the talk page of this page.


 * Users should simply place their request and wait for it to be answered. To keep it simple, if the user posting the request has no real understanding of translation, the point is not for you to learn how to translate here. Usage of the page should extend no more then to asking for a translation to be done. Please refrain from badgering the translators for understanding on why a translation is translated a certain way. If you knew anything about translation you wouldn't be asking someone else to do it, therefore it makes no sense to argue with them.


 * If you are not a member of the translation corner, please do not answer translation questions. Leave it to our translators so as to avoid confusion.


 * Admin have the final say on the translation being placed into a article.

Yamamoto Question
Does anyone have the kanji for Yamamoto's bankai? Because, if whoever edited it already, got the translation right, then wouldn't the full kanji go something like 残火太刀 (ざんかのたち)? --Reikson (talk) 16:35, September 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * You're right; whoever edited the page left out a good number of Kanji. For more data, see here.


 * So far, the only data I have is the statement in the English-translated chapter that the Bankai is called Zanka no Tachi, and that this is translated "longsword of the remnant flame" (< my own slight tweaking). But there's no raw I have for use to confirm either of these things: my tentative Kanji renderings (not knowing how tachi was written, or if a kana no was used or not) are based on the two bits of translation data I have, so I need a good raw to truly confirm the accuracy (esp. after the recent trouble with Sasakibe's Bankai's name). Adam Restling (talk) 21:37, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Shishinrō
In translating the Bleach GC terms, I came across Shishinrō. Turns out it's 四深牢, possibly 'Four-deep jail'. Yet there's only one mention of Shishinrō on this wikia, with no kanji or anything. Turns out, you refer to it as Penitence Cell, Repentance Cell (Viz terms), and Shrine of Penitence. I'm guessing that's not ideal, (certainly, switching between four names isn't) so thought I'd mention it here. The Shishinrō kanji can be seen on chapter 94 page 5. Bluesun1 (talk) 14:03, August 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Those Kanji do indeed mean "four deep prison(s)". As I think I posted earlier, there are oodles of older BLEACH terms that yet go wanting for Kanji, or accurate translations, based on various factors, including the fact that their age produces the illusion that they're settled business, and it's rarer someone looks back; early, error-riddled translations that haven't been contested, etc.


 * Keep up the good work at combing through for missed errors etc. :) Adam Restling (talk) 08:58, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Shin'ō
One method of romanisation is to romanise n + vowel compounds with an apostrophe, to prevent them from being mistaken for na-gyō sounds. Whether applied or not, it should be done so consistently. Yet at the moment you have Jin'emon Kotsubaki (uses apostrophe), Shin'etsu Kisaragi (uses apostrophe) and Shinō Academy (no apostrophe). Whichever is this wikia's rule should be followed, and at least one article renamed with/without an apostrophe. Bluesun1 (talk) 14:54, August 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Good point. Personally, I dislike the look of the apostrophe, even as I do certain stylized mishmashes like jyo for jo(u) or, indeed, using ū for uu etc. in native Japanese words (it's easier to write uu then to paste a macron ū in most cases). I support them for things like katakana spellings, since there the macron is the equivalent of the "long sign" kana /ー/ in non-native, expressive, or other informal usages.


 * Still, one style should be chosen, and then stuck with, for consistency's sake. Adam Restling (talk) 09:07, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Kangetsu ni Saku
Seeing choices enacted on Chapter 504, Chapter -12.5 also should be changed into Japanese. Currently you have it as '-12.5. Blooming Under a Cold Moon'. But as you can see on your own image, the title is in Japanese. Bluesun1 (talk) 00:54, August 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think we should keep the translation--or, rather, tweak it slightly to "Bloom to a Cold Moon" to be more correct ("under a cold moon" should be kangetsu no shita ni or something similar)--but should add the Kanji, as this is one of those rare Japanese (rather than English) chapter titles.


 * Ideally, we could someday add kana and Kanji alike to all the titles, wherever they may be lacking. Adam Restling (talk) 09:16, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Chapter 504 Name
Low priority but could we get a translation of the title of chapter 504 please so it can be noted on the page and Chapters page as is done with previous cases of the titles being in kanji. The kanji are 雷鳴の彼方へ and link to the raw. As I say its not a priority, but would be good to have at some stage whenever one of the translators has the time. Thanks 20:41, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * "Raimei no Kanata e" -- "Beyond the Thunder" is a perfect translation. "To the Thunder's Beyond" is more literal, but unnecessarily wordy and awkward. I'd go with the first. L44021 (talk) 01:12, August 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * L is correct, esp. since the strictly lit. is only really necessary in the Japanese itself, because of its necessary structure (compared to English).


 * The only possible amendment I might suggest is to make it " To Beyond the Thunder", taking into account the usage of the particle he (pronounced and often written as simply e) "to(ward)"--simpler "beyond (the) thunder" would probably just be raimei no kanata, lacking the he; but that would be it. Adam Restling (talk) 09:25, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Bleach novel: Spirits Are Always With You
Here are full Japanese raw scans for the books:--B14 (talk) 15:44, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/iICc9gh995ysQuXGcpUmG0yUajyHEolGlTMsxastkz6hAEXy481xNA
 * http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/fnEl%2B9Qyj7umBRnesQRA2qinXqpK%2BCnU

Colorful Bleach OVA DVD
Since the cover is on here, what does it translate to?

Tman7776 (talk) 02:05, June 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks like the title of this particular Color BLEACH is "Operation Thirteen Court Guard Floats" (護廷十三屋台大作戦 Gotei Juusanyatai Daisakusen), the first part of course punning on "Thirteen Court Guard Troops" (護廷十三隊 Gotei Juusantai). A yatai (屋台) is a small stand or float used for festivals; sakusen (作戦), frequently prefixed (as here) with dai- (大) "great/big", is usually used for "(military) operation, strategy" (e.g. "Operation Overlord" would probably be Overlord Daisakusen)--its more lit. meaning is "do/produce war/fight". Adam Restling (talk) 11:54, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

The Translation of Volume Poems
Earlier today, I edited the volume poems on ten Wikia pages to have their translations match the ones present Viz's volumes. The pages in question are: KING OF THE KILL FEAR FOR FIGHT THE LUST SHOCK OF THE QUEEN KINGDOM OF HOLLOWS VICE IT Love me Bitterly Loth me Sweetly EL VERDUGO BEAUTY IS SO SOLITARY THE BAD JOKE

I had done this in the past to little opposition, but it seems as though the rules have changed. Moreover, a significant number of Bleach Wikia's volume pages already utilize the Viz translation for volume poems. Is there an issue with my edits, or should we leave them as is?

Moreover, should the Wikia use Viz's translations? Or random ones found on the internet? If I were to interject my own opinion, I have found that many amateur translators leave the poems broken and devoid of meaning. Phrasing becomes inconsistent and there are blatant errors. That's not to say that Viz is perfect, but I find that their versions are far more correct. Anyways, shall we discuss? L44021 (talk) 16:04, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Anyone? To be clear, I'm fluent in Japanese. Moreover, the Wikia even uses some of the translations that I've personally done myself--SHOCK OF THE QUEEN, to name one. I'd be willing to contest any issues anyone has with Viz's translations. I command a thorough knowledge of the language and can prove which of Viz's translations are more accurate (which is most of them by a significant amount). L44021 (talk) 00:58, August 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm all for someone like you, far fluenter (< a real word?! maybe not ;) ) being here to handle the longer and more idiomatic passages which, as I've always said, daunt and thwart me (I'm best at words in isolation, or small expressions).


 * Viz's work should generally be taken with a grain, if not a pound, of salt, if you ask me; need I recall the reports of them translating Cero as "Doom Blast" > "Doom Cero"? They're useful, and in a lot of cases probably not too far from decent translations; but it sounds like we'd be better suited to having someone like you, or a group of someones like yous (?), to make your own translations direct from the original Japanese--perhaps with input from me, since I enjoy contributing (when my PC allows it) and I enjoy poesy, and would cry if you guys had no more use nor welcome for me XD. Adam Restling (talk) 09:34, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Bleach GC
The page for the Bleach GameCube game contains a list of stages in an odd romanisation form which is different to the rest of the wiki. (It looks like Nihon-shiki, but 'say'?) However, most of these romanisations can be recovered and should probably thus be translated. unfortunately, searching for kanjified versions, I can't seem to get any results, which suggests there's no equivalent Japanese list. :/ They are: Bluesun1 (talk) 14:03, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Original text: 'corrected romaji': possible kanji 'Translation'
 * Senzaikyumae: 'Senzaikyū-mae': 懺罪宮前 'In front of the Senzaikyū'
 * Syokeiyouato: Likely 'Shokeijō-ato': 処刑場後 'Remains of the Execution Site'
 * Soukyokuno Oka: 'Sōkyoku no Oka': 双殛の丘 'Sōkyoku Hill'
 * Sisinrouwatarirouka: 'Shishinrō Watarirōka': 四深牢渡廊下 'Shishinrō Passage'
 * Sanbantaitaisaymae: 'San-bantai Taisha-mae': 三番隊隊舎前 'Outside the 3rd Division Barracks'
 * Senzaikyuhiroba: 'Senzaikyū Hiroba': 懺罪宮広場 'Senzaikyū Plaza'
 * Rukongai: obvious
 * Seireitei - Yanenoue: 'Seireitei - Yane no Ue': 瀞霊廷・屋根の上 'Seireitei: Roof'
 * Seireitei - Mori: 'Seireitei - Mori': 瀞霊廷・森 'Seireitei: Forest'
 * Soukyokuchika - Benkyoubeya: 'Sōkyoku Chika - Benkyōbeya': 双殛地下・勉強部屋 'Training Room - Underneath the Sōkyoku'
 * Seireiteidori: 'Seireitei-doori': 瀞霊廷通 'A Street in Seireitei'
 * Chikasuidou: 'Chikasuidō': 地下水道 'Sewers'


 * Looks like a good job, and very exhaustive, Sun, thanks :). Indeed, many of the former names do appear to have been derived from some confusion of Nihonshiki forms, riddled with elided letters (e.g. the second's element, Syokeiyou~, does seem to have been meant to be Syokei z you~ = Hepburnshiki Shokeijou~) and wildly inconsistent word boundaries (as the yanenoue for yane no ue you cite, etc.). Adam Restling (talk) 09:45, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Chapter 502: San'ou
Hello again Adam. It's nice to see you're back! PC problems again? I know how that feels. I'm having some of my own XD! Anyway, I need some help with finding some kanji again. If you don't already know, on this wiki if a chapter name is in Japanese the page name is in Kanji (example 504. 雷鳴の彼方へ) but for whatever reason chapter 502. San'ou is in romaji. I have found the raw but I can't seem to find the kanji. If you could please use your super awesome kanji finding powers that would be great! Thanks!--Kisukeiscool100396 (talk) 19:15, September 4, 2012 (UTC) http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg444/scaled.php?server=444&filename=bleach502raw4.jpg&res=landing


 * Nice to be back, however long it lasts :) (hope it's long XD).


 * Looks like the Kanji are 散桜 "scattering sakura" (i.e. "scattering cherry blossom[s]"), a darkly-poetic allusion and reversal of Byakuya's signature weapon.


 * And especial thanks for providing me the raw link; with Ju-Ni apparently gone, I'm having trouble finding raws of any kind of quality lately (Mangahead's can sometimes work, but they're often so grainy it can obscure certain things, like the oh-so-helpful furigana). Adam Restling (talk) 02:23, September 5, 2012 (UTC)