Talk:Retsu Unohana

Inventing Zanjutsu
In her "Powers & Abilities" section, specifically under "Master Swordsman", Restu is incorrectly credited with inventing the art of killing. Both BadKarma's and Cnet's translations of chapter 523 confirm that she didn't actually invent it, rather Shunsui was just apologizing for having the two fight under the pretense of "introducing zanjutsu" to Zaraki. Blackstar1 (talk) 16:09, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

As far as I know, we have been using Cnet as our primary source ever since Ju-Ni stopped doing scanlations. Unless someone wants to take it up with the Translation Corner, I think it would be safe to make the correction. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  16:25, March 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hmmm it doesnt say she created Zanjutsu, it states the Art of Killing, not the art of swordmanship which is very different given Swordsmanship can be used defensively!! She has been stated as a diabolical criminal, the worst in Soul Society's history, so I guess it is meant to reflect her previous bouts of slaughter and mastering every way to use a blade to kill a person, hence the killing part!! So it's not needed to change however, both of those have different translations on that topic!!

Hey what do you mean?-- User:Jmootam1999 Loves Naruto 12:26, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Death
Although Unohana received a seemingly fatal blow from Kenpachi, the same thing happened to Byakuya, who is still alive. Until it is officially confirmed that Unohana is dead, the article should be changed back to her still being alive.Steveo920, 00:35 March 30, 2013
 * We were outright told that she is dead - she more or less said so herself. There is nothing to contradict this. Byakuya turned out to be alive, so we changed his article accordingly. If that's the case here, then we will do it. Until then, we are not making assumptions. Mohrpheus   (Talk)  15:07, March 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * When was it stated that she truly died? True, Unohana felt certain she is going to die, but the same was said for Byakuya. Steveo920, 20:26, March 39, 2013


 * As already said, she stated she was now going to die, she is a healer, a very experienced one at that, she knows when someone is dying!! If it's stated in the Manga, it goes in the article unless otherwise proven wrong!!

Unlocking
Can you guys unlock this page as well? I see some edits that are needed, and would like to help. TechGenusMaster (talk) 16:12, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Is there a reason why this page is still locked? It needs some editing --Shinitenshi (talk) 23:06, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Such as?

The history section, particularly the stuff that happens before the TBTP arc. It's somewhat disjointed.--Shinitenshi (talk) 23:13, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Not to mention the 13+ incorrect capitalization of Reiatsu! XP I am sure there are other things too. 01:36, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hidden blade
Since Unohana used hidden blade to wound Kenpachi during their fight shouldn't the blade be added to the article as her equipment? Night486 (talk) 18:25, May 9, 2013 (UTC)Night486

Arrancar arc
I'd just like to know why my edit was reverted. I tried to add that she was present at the captains meeting in chapter 188 in the Arrancar arc. It was referenced and true information so I'm slightly confused as to why it shouldn't be on her page. If someone could tell me why I'd be grateful. --Ginhikari (talk) 19:41, May 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * A simple appearance isnt noteworthy. She is principle character in the series, if she was rarely thought about or seen then it would be significant enough to warrant an appearance mention. It therefore would go without saying that she already is expected to be there. If her role was wider then yes that would be enough to warrant a edit.--

Ok, I understand and you're correct. But if thats the case shouldn't we remove that information from Kyōraku, Komamura, Suí-Fēng, Byakuya and Yamamoto's pages? --Ginhikari (talk) 06:38, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Personality
"Unohana is a soft-spoken, polite, and caring woman who uses honorifics when addressing everyone, including her subordinates and the enemy." Can we add that Isane is exception since she never uses honorifics with her, but simply calls her Isane? Example: Bleach manga; Chapter 380, pages 15-16 Night486 (talk) 23:06, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Past tense
In the introduction past tense is used, and I understand that it is because she's dead. But in articles such as Ulquiorra's and Nnoitra's, present tense is used even though they're dead. What should be used in the introductions of articles about deceased characters? --Ginhikari (talk) 18:48, September 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * It should be present tense. 18:57, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

Then I'll go ahead and change it in Unohana's page. There seems to be the same thing on Yamamotos page, should it be changed there too? --Ginhikari (talk) 19:14, September 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * All intro sections should be in present tense. Only the history sections should be in past.


 * Actually Xil brought this up to me previously and I said it was acceptable for the intro to be past tense. Fact is if she is dead it makes no sense to state she has a position a dead person cannot fill. Xil brought up the point that other pages didnt have that, but I also pointed out that no other group has a established organization that still is any real form of existence. Further conversation would need to be had but that the general reasoning behind that change.--

Sorry to open this up again, but on Chōjiro's and Kaien's pages it says that they are former lieutenants, those pages don't use past tense. I think we should either change the intros on the Chōjiro's and Kaien's pages or the intros on Retsu's and Yamamoto's pages to match the other, to keep the consistency on the wiki. What do you think? --Ginhikari (talk) 15:31, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Title Section - Incorrect
Wrong/Incorrect Information on the "Titles" Section.

In the Titles section on Retsu Unohana's page, it says Kenpachi Zaraki was the next Kenpachi after Retsu was.

There are 9 other Kenpachi's in between Retsu and Zaraki, including Kiganjō.

In my opinion, if you are going to still have the "Titles" table, Kiganjō should be listed as the Kenpachi after Retsu, considering he held the title before Zaraki and we don't know any of the other Kenpachis.

Smac919 (talk) 01:57, February 20, 2014 (UTC)

Shunpo Skills
I think her skill in shunpo should be looked over again.Her page only sates that she can keep up with the average captain,when Sajin's page had this he was only an Practitioner. Naruto 45 (talk) 22:49, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Unohana's Bankai's Special Ability
I see it is still listed as unknown but I thought it was made clear that the liquid substance from her Bankai caused the victims skin and body to disolve/melt/erode away. The reason Kenpachi kept regaining his skin is because she was healing him, mentioning she would "kill" him over and over again and then heal him. Let me know what you all think, and if one of you would be mind filling in the details of it on her page. Reeves92 (talk) 07:29, February 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thats not something anyone came up with, while its a seemingly interesting and possible situation. The issue there is healing doesnt work that fast, healing kido is a considerable time consuming process and in that particular situation it was the last point of their altercation. Thus it didnt seem to work the way your pointing out. The whole situation was a little inconsistent and empty on the explanation department even by visual analysis so thats why we really didn't have a logical explanation. It was safer to put nothing then speculate with something we werent sure of. --