Forum:Do U Think Gin Could Turn On Aizen

I know this a stretch n has no support or anything, its jus an idea but could gin turn on aizen. All I can give is gin is as cunning as aizen and showed a little compassion towards matsumoto when he left--Jwill35 15:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

can i get an opinion

Good question i don't know both have mental issues i think. Aizen is a megalomaniac and Gin seems like a sociopath. So its like the dictator verses the serial killer, who would win. I think all said and done they are probably about even without Aizen's cheap zanpakuto special ability.Salubri 15:28, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Good point i mean gin always seems like he knows alot if not more about aizens plans than aizen--Jwill35 15:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think Gin would betray Aizen. Despite his less than noble actions, Gin has been a loyal ally of Aizen. Aizen himself holds both Gin and Tosen in high regard and would kill even the Espada if they tried to harm them. Yes, they are all evil, but even evil people believe in loyalty. Plus, if Gin wished to betray Aizen, what would he gain from it? Most likely, the Arrancar wouldn't follow him, because they are loyal to Aizen and appear to only respect Gin and Tosen because they Are Aizen's right hand men. Plus, Aizen is fearless, and both Gin and Tosen are afraid to die (said so by Zaraki), and the Arrancar only follow Aizen because of his power and his lack of fear, as Iceringer said made him inspiring to those born from fear(the Hollows).--Moe1216 19:20, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Thats a valid point. If anyone would turn on Aizen i think it would be Tosen. He seems the most unsure and he obviously is a hypocrite as Aizen's path is neither justice nor the path with the least bloodshed but the most. The reason i say unsure is the flashback between tosen and komamura a bit before komamura was introduced to Aizen by tosen. Tosen seems uncertain about answering a question komamura posed to him. Also if you notice true enough that Aizen considers both trusted right hand men but if you notice both act different in relation to aizen. Gin acts as a equal/friend/and co conspirator. Where tosen acts as a subordinate/servant. He is not as free and open to talking with aizen as gin is nor does he question aizen or show any real understanding of aizens mannerisms or mind like gin only seemingly following orders.Salubri 19:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Man, thats a good point. I never tought of it like that. Tosen does act more like a servant than an equal, plus he seems almost too submissive to Aizen. If what he believes contradicts Aizen's plan so much why would he continue? There may one thing he is trying to do, but it's just a hypothesis with no validation. What if Tosen wants to get rid of the gotei 13 to get revenge for the death of his friend? She too was a soul reaper, but she was killed by her husband who was also a soul reaper, but more violent. It kind of makes sense, and since Tosen believes that murder in the name of good is righteous, he might have no problem with destroying something he believs is evil, like Zaraki. So in his mind, the path he follows with the least blood shed most likely would mean the blood of his allies', not his enemies'. Once again, hypothesis so don't burn burn me at the stake please:).--Moe1216 19:53, 16 July 2009 (UTC)