Bleach Wiki:Anime Summary Unit/Discussion Archive

I've added a detailed example of the format for powers & techniques section. Feel free to discuss, add examples of anything I may have missed & make changes to improve it. --Yyp 12:28, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I'll read over it and see if it might need anything added or changed. The 4th Hokage 12:54, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I have slightly changed the Powers and Techs section. What do u think? The 4th Hokage 13:23, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * That's fine. I agree with the senkaimon not being in the powers section, since it is more an object rather than a power. But then again, Renji opened one with his zanpakuto when Rukia was arrested - so I can see an argument for it being listed as a power. And as I said, if you come across any other things that don't fit easily into the current headings, post it here. --Yyp 13:42, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I have added a bit to say that the Bakkōtō and Dolls should be listed in the same style as Zanpakutō. And if anyone can think of a better way of classifying Inoue's & Sado's powers (& Ishida's for that matter), it would be appreciated. --Yyp 14:04, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Powers used by humans? Just saying, they are all humans as distinct from shinigami, vizards or arrancars. Tinni 14:26, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Yyp I see your point. Hmm, well lets put it this way. I felt that Renji used his Zanpakuto like a key, i.e he opened the gate with it. However he didn't create the gate or its doors, nor did he create that particular Senkaimon in the first place. As to why he used his Zanpakuto to do this is unknown as no one else has been seen doing this since. Maybe he just wanted to use his sword. The 4th Hokage 14:11, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * No one else has really been shown opening the door to soul society from the living world side for just shinigami. Well Urahara in the movie still used that transfer gate or whatever but that's a movie. Anyway, point is that the gate has only been opened once from the living world side and that was by Renji by using his zanpakuto as a key. Every other time the gate has either been opened from the soul society side or transfer gate was used because the shinigami had humans accompanying them. So at this point the conclusion we have to draw is that to open the door to Soul Society from the living world side, you need a zanpakuto. If the shinigami loses their power or at least their zanpakuto then they also lose the ability to return to Soul Society. Makes sense given Rukia couldn't return when she didn't have a zanpakuto and so technically wasn't a shinigami. Tinni 14:26, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I am in need of alittle advice. In the page The_Man_who_Hates_Shinigami one of the featured characters is the elder of the Rukon district. This guy doesn't have a page here nor was he given a name. So my question is can I remove him from the list? The 4th Hokage 14:19, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * No, we often have characters like that in both the chapter character lists and the episode character lists. It should be fine to just leave him there. Just don't link his name. Tinni 14:26, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay. Thanks for the advice, I will leave it as such. The 4th Hokage 14:30, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I think that Chad and Orihime are fine in the sections they are. Uryu is a slightly more difficult case. After some thought, I think he should be listed in the same manor as Orihime and Chad, and others like them. His powers are unlike that of a Zanpakuto or Doll. Zanpakutos and Dolls have an individual personality and are basically conscious beings. Uryu's weapons like his bows or the Seele Schneider are not. As such I feel they should be listed under Techniques used. The 4th Hokage 14:46, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * To add to what Tinni said about pageless characters - you'll come across characters like that now and then (Hitsugaya's grandmother is another). Just give their name, or if they don't have one, use a short, descriptive name for them. "Human Powers" and "Quincy Powers used" (or some variation on that) sounds good, but I'll leave it up to you guys. --Yyp 14:51, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Adding to what Yyp said, I did initially notice on some of the chapters that someone had put things like, "A Hollow." "A Gillian." for characters I personally, think that's pointless because it's not specific enough to point to any one character and it doesn't provide any useful additional information. So you don't need to include that, or if you see that someone had put something pointless like that, then you can remove it. Twocents 18:48, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I have added some things to the Powers and Techniques list, what do u uys think? Is what I said okay? The 4th Hokage 13:09, November 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * What you wrote is fine. I've changed what I originally wrote there to remove the "I think" bits, so it looks a bit better. --Yyp 14:33, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

With regards to the recaps section, the episodes themselves contain a little bit from the previous episode. Do we leave these bits out of the summary because it'll be in the previous one? TomServo101 15:39, November 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, that is correct. It is the fifth rule above in the Article Guidelines section. It wasn't there when the page was made, but it is now. The 4th Hokage 15:43, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

This is a question for anyone who might know. The orb that was used by Ichigo and co. to break into the seireitei. I don't know what its name is, but does it have its section in another page? Also should it be linked in the Synopsis section? The 4th Hokage 16:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Episodes 44, 47 & 48 have had characters and powers added. TomServo101 11:33, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

When editing anime summaries, should we include characters in the recaps/previews of each episode in the "Character Appearances" list? SerialSniper14 18:47, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * No to both the recaps & previews, but I usually add characters that appear in the omake at the end of the episode with "(Omake)" written after the character's name. Thanks for helping out with the project. -- Yyp  (Talk)  18:56, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm working on the episode when Ichigo first meets Hollow Ichigo, but obviously Ichigo doesn't know that's his inner Hollow yet, and anyone watching from the beginning wouldn't know that either. The previous editor called him "Shadow Ichigo," so should I leave it as Shadow Ichigo for the sake of avoiding spoilers? Also, I need to know what to put in the "Characters In Order of Appearance" box because right now I have "Hollow Ichigo" SerialSniper14 06:03, January 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well considering the fact that name "Hollow Ichigo" would appear in the character list, I don't think you have to worry about that too much. In addition, as a wiki, people are aware that we contain spoilers for already released information. Therefore, anyone reading the past anime episode summaries should expect spoilers so it is fine. Tinni   (Talk)  06:24, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Do we want to include individual characters from Orihime's Shun Shun Rikka in the characters list? Perhaps only if they have significant dialogue? SerialSniper14 (Talk)  03:20, January 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's pretty much my stance. If they talk, put them in. But if they just fly about doing what they do - don't bother. Especially since, in that case their appearance will be covered in the powers section. Tinni   (Talk)  03:29, January 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Agreed then. It just so happens the episode I'm covering used all of the Shun Shun Rikka techniques and all but one of the six had a dialogue. As if they couldn't have made things easier. SerialSniper14  (Talk)  04:12, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Looking at things right now, I'm going to opt not to include Ririn, Kurōdo, and Nobas' powers in the Powers and Abilites lists. They don't have specific names with translations, meanings, etc. and they are used constantly throughout the Bound arc. It just doesn't feel necessary to include all of their overly repeated moves every time. Does anyone object? You can see an example of what it would look like for every episode here. SerialSniper14 (Talk)  04:46, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Contribution Box
Guys I was procrastinating so I decided to make some contribution user boxes. Below is the one I made for you guys. Feel free to change it. Certainly you don't have to use it. It's just something fun. If you do want to use it, you can use it using the command  Tinni   (Talk)  06:03, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Summary/Synopsis Inconsistency
I've noticed that some episode articles have Summary as a heading, while others use Synopsis. This inconsistency needs to be fixed. It should be Summary on all of them, as per the volume/chapter pages. I'll start going through it fixing them now. -- Yyp (Talk) 12:32, March 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Right, I've fixed this and fixed a number of image size problems on the articles too. For anyone creating a new episode summary article in the future, please remember that it is Summary, not Synopsis or Plot. Thanks -- Yyp (Talk) 14:55, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

First names vs. Last names
Something I've wanted to address is which names to use in the summaries. I don't think we should necessarily pick one or the other, but shouldn't we standardize it to an extent? Up until now, I've been using Hitsugaya instead of Tōshirō (because it's easier to type) and Uryū instead of Ishida. Thoughts? SerialSniper14 (Talk)  00:14, March 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thats a good question. In the case of Uryū I have always used Ishida due to the fact that when typing Uryu it is correct to use the spelling Uryū. I don't have to paste the ū everytime his name is brought up. Tho this is a minor inconvenience and if u think we should say Uryu, I will change it to say that. I always refer to Chad and Orihime, by those names. Never, Inoue or Sado, unless the case is special. And of course the two main characters, Ichigo and Rukia r always called Ichigo and Rukia. Never Kurosaki of Kuchiki.


 * In the case of Captains, I think it would be best to use their last names. Initially I used their first names, i.e Toshiro, Kenpachi, Shunsui etc; with few exceptions such as Aizen, Tosen, Unohana and Yamamoto. However, I changed it back. I agree that constitency is key and thats y I like the fact u decided to Archive finished eps. I want to go back and look at how things have been done and fix any inconsistencies. In the case of Lieutenants, I usually use the first names, Shuhei, Izuru, Nanao, and I think Renji should always be mentioned by his first name, though this is negotiable.


 * For other characters; minor, supporting, whatever, I usually use the name they r commonly referred to. Such as in the summary I just finished, whoever first did it used the Bounts name Ryō Utagawa, he just said Ryo. However, he was commonly referred to as Utagawa during his screen time. So I used Utagawa during the summary. Same with Kariya. He was almost never called Jin, so we say Kariya. Kisuke is, well. I have always called him Urahara as he is usually called this, with Yoruichi being the exception. Espada and Arracar in general should be referred to by there common names, Grimmjow, Starrk, etc. I can't think of anything else to say right now, so I would like to hear what u think, Serial. And if anyone else has any input on this please say something. Minato  (Talk)  00:46, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

I've been using Uryū and just pasting it every time it comes up. I've been using Sado, given that that's his real name (Chad was a nickname from Ichigo). The Captains' last names sound good except for Ichimaru I've been using Gin. Lieutenants I usually go with how common and well-known the character is (Hisagi, Momo, Izuru, Rangiku, Iba, Ikkaku (not a lieutenant, I know), etc.). Everything else sounds good too. Generally I've been sticking to what feels most natural and rolls off the tongue to give the summaries a more natural flow. SerialSniper14 (Talk)  01:05, March 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Srry bout the broken link. I fixed it. With the exception of Hisagi(which I will start calling him by from now on)thats mostly what I've been doin aswell. I'll change it to say Uryu from now on. The only thing I disagree with is Sado. I kno its his real name, but Orihime and Ichigo even in the Japanese version call him Chad. In the American version, basically everyone calls him Chad, except for his enemies. Since its an english wiki I feel he should be called Chad, but I won't be a whiner about it. I just think most people kno him as Chad, thats all. Minato  (Talk)  01:16, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

No, I completely agree about using mostly english terms for an english wiki, however, I was under the impression that he is known as Sado even in the Japanese version. Mostly notably, I seem to recall hearing Orihime say "Sado-kun" repeatedly. Maybe I'm wrong, I'll be sure to look into that though. SerialSniper14 (Talk)  01:28, March 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think u might be right. Especially in the new arc, if I recall Orihime has been saying Sado-kun. IDK y, but I always thought she was saying Chado-kun. However, after looking at his page he is commonly referred to as Sado instead of Chad. So I guess I'll start calling him Sado. Minato  (Talk)  01:37, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

In the case of characters such as Ichigo, Rukia, Uryū, Orihime, Keigo, Isane, Ganju, etc that share their surnames with other characters, I referred to them by their first name instead of surname just to avoid any potential confusion. Otherwise, I usually use which ever name they are called most. In cases like Urahara where some people call him Kisuke or Kisuke-san, and others call him Urahara, just use your best judgement. Yyp (Talk) 09:16, March 25, 2010 (UTC)