Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner/Archive 9

About the Technique Desgarron
Well, guys, mind me if I am being rude or something, but see that, "Tear" is not the exact meaning of the action that "Laceration" means. "Tear" is used to describe the act of tearing apart something while using a general description of the act going on; where Laceration is a word that means something that involves more violent slash-hack type tearing through something which is the technique - Desgarron of Grimmjow is. Plus, while the Spanish means the both of the English words, the Laceration is more appropriate here I think as "Desgarron" is something that fits the term "Laceration" than "Tear". Also, in the anime the term "Laceration" is used instead of "Tear". So, wouldcha mind considering "Laceration" instead of "Tear" in the translation for Desgarron, please? Ryuga Vincent (talk) 20:21, January 25, 2013 (UTC) Ryuga Vincent

Well, lacerate and laceration are, *technically*, kind of synonyms of tear, deriving from Latin lacer, torn; however, my Spanish dictionary has desgarrón translate as "big tear"--being an augmentative of the underlying stem desgarra- "tear"--and laceration does tend to convey, by its very length (three syllables to one in tear) and rarer use, a higher degree of tearing, so I'd be cool with changing the trans. of Desgarrón to "laceration" or "great tear". Adam Restling (talk) 04:14, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Unohana's Bankai
Supposedly the raw for 526 gives a different name (皆尽) then the fan translation which has been translated as Minizuki, which cant be the name as its the general name of her zanpakuto. We obviously need the translation for the kanji we placed here.--

I found something that may help you, Adam. A well known translator on BA had this to say. Many other translators have confirmed this, but this wiki needs your confirmation. Thank you very much!--Kisukeiscool100396 (talk) 22:09, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

''Unohana's bankai is written in kanji, which is called 皆尽, different kanji from her shikai 肉雫唼 .. but the same pronounciation : Minazuki a bit more changes...''

Unohana's bankai : 皆尽 means "Deplete everything" if anyone is interested, while her shikai 肉雫唼 means "Purify the flesh"

Mangahead's RAW is out and it really is as said before, the Bankai name is pronounce as Minazuki just as the Shikai, however it is written with the kanjis 皆尽 instead of 肉雫唼. Source: http://mangahead.com/index.php/Manga-Raw-Scan/Bleach/Bleach-526-Raw-Scan/04.jpg?action=big&size=original&fromthumbnail=true - Gorenja (talk) 17:40, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

The raws are out now, and Cnet's translation is also out. They also said that her Bankai's name is pronounced and romanised the same as her Shikai, but it translates to "An End to All Peoples' Lives". Here's a link to Cnet's translation- .--Yomiko-chan (talk) 18:38, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Like you guys said above, the raw confirms 皆尽, read Minazuki, is her Bankai. Lit., "all (things)/every(thing)" + "be spent, be consumed, end": -zuki < tsuki, here, is the infinitive/gerund form of the verb tsukiru, which is the intransitive form, meaning "(oneself is) spent, consumed, (coming to an) end"--that is, "all things" are the things ending, not the things which are ending something else.

For those reasons, I would translate it as, most faithful I can be to the seeming intent (based on the lit.), "all things' end"--i.e., "the ending of all things".

Special note: the "translation" of Unohana's Shikai Minazuki as "purify the flesh", it should be noted, is an extremely liberal interpretation (did Kubo claim that was it???). The Kanji themselves, 肉雫唼, are "flesh, meat" + "drop, trickle" + a very rare Kanji used (in Chinese) for vulgar chewing, "the gobbling sound of ducks", and even "speak evilly"--lots of bestial/unsavory mouthings, in other words. The reading seems to be based on minazuki (水無月 "waterless moon"), the "sixth month of the lunar calendar" ("waterless" prob. referring to the moon's fullness at this time), during which summer purification rites (minazukibarae) were undergone.

If I were to do a translation based on the Kanji of the Shikai, it would prob. be "flesh-drops' gorge"; but "purify the flesh" is quite a reach, in that it consists, itself, of several reaches. Adam Restling (talk) 03:35, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the translation. So does the translation of her Bankai confirm the flesh melting thing as literal?--Yomiko-chan (talk) 03:57, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea what her Bankai does, really, even with its Kanji revealed. Hopefully, Kubo will spell it out for us some time (soon). Adam Restling (talk) 04:02, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

God of the Sword
His title apparently is "God of the Sword" (刀神, Tōshin) is always trying to make sure this is an accurate translation.--


 * Looks like your Kanji and rōmaji are indeed correct up there: Tōshin (刀神), "Sword God". But maaaaaan, are Mangahead's raws blurry. Adam Restling (talk) 11:46, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Error on Oshō page
I think there is an error on his page. His is name is listed as Osho (和尚| Bonze). That's not right is it? I tried to fix it but my edit was undone for some odd reason. I thought it was established that Bonze is an error, but is there something I'm not getting? Here is the Raw where his name is first said.--Kisukeiscool100396 (talk) 01:43, January 17, 2013 (UTC) http://raw.senmanga.com/Bleach/517/8


 * See here for some of the details; but, in summation, it was Mangapanda that "translated" the kenning for this character, Oshō, as "Bonze". I'd probably just leave it as Oshō, then give some kind of explanation, further down on the page, like "Oshō is an honorific term for an esteemed or head monk or priest; it's unknown whether this is to be taken for his more formal title, or simply a nickname given him by Kyōraku, based on his appearance."


 * What do you mod folks think? Is writing it "Oshō (和尚 Bonze)" in the article kind of confusing or misleading, in light of the ideas in the above? Adam Restling (talk) 21:34, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Yuki's hair clips
He says that they are used for self-destruction?) It's just a joke or what? — talk 15:40, January 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * From what I have seen of some fan translations, it appears that Shino says he is joking/lying. 12:33, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Shino speaks in another one of those slangy dialects Kubo's annoyingly fond of, but she does seem to be saying it's a gag: uso (嘘 ~ ウソ), lit. "lie/falsehood", is often used, informally, the way we use no way, yeah, right, or other such sentiments, much as it seems is the case here. Adam Restling (talk) 03:57, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Bount Mansion
On the Bount Mansion page, the romaji translation for バウントていたく is "Baunto no yashiki". I believe the kanji says "Baunto Teitaku", whatever that means. -- Aassdddai  talk  09:23, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Teitaku, in the meaning "mansion, residence", is spelled, in Kanji, as either 邸宅 or 第宅. I tried Googling バウントの邸宅/第宅 Baunto no teitaku and just バウント邸宅/第宅 Baunto teitaku, but I couldn't seem to find both words together in such a way--only results which had paragraphs incorporating "バウント" and then, later on, "邸宅". I guess, as a placeholder, though, バウントの邸宅 Baunto no teitaku, works alright, unconfirmed though it now seems to be. Adam Restling (talk) 03:48, February 19, 2013 (UTC)