Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5042719-20160306184758/@comment-957629-20160307021516

I locked the original discussion with the summary that Ichigo was related to the Shiba Clan meaning I did not deny that they were family or blood related in some capacity. We do not know how they are related as at no point in the Chapters since the mention of an "uncle" was it stated that Isshin was the uncle.

The reason the discussion was locked was because there is a lot of speculation going on with no proof in the Manga and it was thus going around in circles with claims being made all over the place.

Ichigo is not part of the Shiba Clan in the exact same capacity that Whilhelm II of Germany was not a member of the British Royal Family. He was related by blood but was not part of that House. He was part of the House of Hohenzollern while his cousins in Britain were part of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and then the House of Windsor.

Isshin is a former member of the Shiba Clan and will be listed as such until we get confirmation that he has returned to the clan he left when he abandoned his post and then married his wife and joined her family. If he is shown to be part of the Shiba Clan again then he will we listed as such, and that page has now been corrected. One page is not proof, mistakes can be made and peoples beliefs sometimes filter through.

This discussion is over because all you will say is that Isshin is a member of the clan and is the uncle because you believe him to be and others believe him to be. I haven't even said whether or not I think he is but we deal with facts from the series here, proper confirmed facts about Bleach, not our feelings on the matter.


 * Fact: Isshin was born into the Shiba Clan.
 * Fact: He abandoned the Shiba Clan and the Gotei 13.
 * Fact: He joined Masaki's family and took her name and now is the head of the remaining Kurosaki Family.
 * Fact: Through Isshin, Ichigo, Karin and Yuzu are related (in an unknown capacity) by blood to the Shiba Clan.
 * Fact: The Kurosaki siblings are not part of the clan and have not grown up in the clan.

Possibility: Ichigo may not be able to leave Soul Society after this battle so may join the clan, might have to stay in another capacity.
 * Possibility: Isshin could rejoin, or may have already rejoined, the Clan if Kubo decides the story needs this. But this is speculation without stated facts.
 * Possibility: Isshin is the "uncle" they spoke of, but that is blood relation, doesn't confirm Clan membership, shown by my example above.
 * Possibility: Ichigo may in the future be inducted into the Clan or may have already been inducted off-screen, as it stands until it is shown, it is speculation.

Now with the conclusions clearly stated, from references in the manga on respective articles, I am closing this thread again as we will go in circles. The Shiba Clan article has been corrected and now matches the Isshin article. I am sorry that I misunderstood what article you were discussing as I was reading the developed Isshin article.

Thank you for showing us that error, no need for the screenshot on the matter as the mistake and correction with always be on the history page for the Shiba Clan.

Hope this helps you understand a bit better. Ichigo has not been shown as a member of the Shiba Clan but he has been shown as a member of the Kurosaki Family with his father and sisters and deceased mother. This in now way takes away from the fact that they are related to the Clan by blood but they are not currently active members of that clan. This may change, who knows.

Kind regards

-Sun