Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner

The Translation Corner is a group of Bleach Wiki users who the task to translate the various names, abilities, techniques and etc. found in the Bleach Universe. Being that Bleach is a Japanese manga that use Japanese, Chinese, Indian, German, Spanish and English language in various instances and cases, the use of translators are a focal point to the continuation of accuracy on the wiki. All users should read our Translation Guidelines before you start translating.

Roles of the Translation Corner
The following are the duties of the corner:


 * 1. To assure the correctness of all translations that are presented on the site.


 * 2. To determine the outcome of Contentious Translations: If a translation is questioned at all, that should be brought up in this section. In this way a translator, committee member or admin can explain why the translation is used or conversation can take place for translations that are harder to classify.


 * 3. To determine the correct translation of Zanpakutō (names, release calls, etc.): This section is for requests for translation of zanpakuto and zanpakuto related translations.


 * 4. To determine the correct translation of Character and element (e.g. devices) names: This section is for requests for translation of characters/techniques/equipment and general key words.


 * 5. To determine the correct translation of General/Other translation issues (e.g. conjugation/miscellanea): This section is for requests about translations that don't fit any particular criteria such as conjugation or such things such as accents used in the names.

Associate Members

 * Adam Restling (Primary Japanese Translator)
 * MarqFJA (Secondary Japanese Translator)
 * Vraieesprit (Japanese to English Translation)

References & Sources

 * Kanji-to-English:
 * Tangorin
 * Mahou Kanji Dictionary
 * Kanji Networks
 * OldNihongo.J-Talk.Com
 * Basic Japanese verbal data: The imperative inflection of Japanese verbs

Associate Box
Ok folks I have finally gotten around to makeing the Associate Box. You can put it on your user page using the command. Below is what the box looks like. Tinni  (Talk)  14:37, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Translation Guidelines

 * Anyone doing any form of translation. Looking up on Google Translate or similar translation tools, is not translating. You are not doing the site any favors by doing amateur translation. Please refrain from using such tools.


 * This is not a conversation page. It is a simple question and answer page for translation. All conversations should be held on a particular user talk page or the talk page of this page.


 * Users should simply place their request and wait for it to be answered. To keep it simple, if the user posting the request has no real understanding of translation, the point is not for you to learn how to translate here. Usage of the page should extend no more then to asking for a translation to be done. Please refrain from badgering the translators for understanding on why a translation is translated a certain way. If you knew anything about translation you wouldn't be asking someone else to do it, therefore it makes no sense to argue with them.


 * If you are not a member of the translation corner, please do not answer translation questions. Leave it to our translators so as to avoid confusion.


 * Admin have the final say on the translation being placed into a article.

"Tenchi Kaijin" misspelled
Sorry to pollute the recently-archived corner already (XD), but I chanced to notice that in Zanka no Tachi's "North" ability, correct Tenchi ~ is misspelled Tenchi n ~ on Yamamoto's page. I tried to fix it (since it was minor), but am forbidden from editing the page; and for expedience, I'm bring this up here. Adam Restling (talk) 00:42, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

"I permit you."
I just realized that we're missing them, but what are the kanji and literal translation for the command Riruka that uses for her Dollhouse ability? Mohrpheus  (Talk)  15:29, September 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * According to the Japanese Wiki, the word for "permission" is, *apparently*, 許可 kyoka. But to confirm this, and get an accurate rendering of the phrase she uses it in, I implore someone who has it to post a pic from the raw--according to our refs on her page, it's mentioned in ch. 434 pgs. 13-17, and ch. 441 pg. 17. Raws from that "far" back in the series are hard to come by (at least for me) these days... Adam Restling (talk) 21:39, September 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * "あんたを許可する"わ("anta wo kyokasuru" wa) — ЖенёqSig.png 22:25, September 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you much, Zhyenyoq :). Looks like Riruka, at least in addressing Ichigo, uses the above, putting it in quotes, even. Anta is a coarse informal form of anata "you"--almost exclusively used by women--made the object of the following verb by the accusative particle wo; and kyokasuru is simply the verb "permit" formed from the noun kyoka permission; wa is the feminine verb-subsequent particle. Adam Restling (talk) 05:18, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect name kanjis
On Heizō Kasaki's article the kanjis for his name are incorrect, those are the kanjis for "Seinosuke Yamada"; it should be these kanjis 笠城 平蔵. Evidence is provided with this image: --EvilDragonLord(talk) 19:01, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hurtless Area
Sorry to bother you with more Fullbringer arc shenanigans. I thought we had it somewhere, but could you translate the literal Japanese term for Byakuya's Hurtless Area? Luckily we already have the raw this time around: Mohrpheus  (Talk)  04:15, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Nothing to be sorry for; Fullbring Arc stuff is as important as aught else :).


 * Looks like it's 無傷圏 mushōken "woundless zone". Adam Restling (talk) 05:02, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

Ebern's Incantation
Not sure if you have any way of getting the raw on hand, but if you can find it, can you translate the incantation Ebern used when he tried to steal Ichigo's Bankai? Mohrpheus  (Talk)  13:38, October 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Raws
 * I'm not very sure of these kanji :)

「溶けよ」 （アウフリーデ） 海よ雲へ （メーア･エ･ヴォルケン） 雲よ雨へ （ヴォルケン･エ･レーゲン） 雨よ霧へ （レーゲン･エ･ネーベル）

?[冫夂女]成すものよ （ジヒトバーレ･エ･） 見えざるものへ （ウンジヒトバーレン）

我等歓喜の末に （ヴィーア･グート･フロイデ･） 杯を地に伏せる （ターナ･ヴラント・デイル・ベッヒャー）

さあ!!! （ロス）
 * — ЖенёqSig.png 17:04, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

If I'm not wrong, the line ?[冫夂女]成すものよ is like this 姿成すものよ--EvilDragonLord (talk) 23:02, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

The chant appears to be in German. Here is what it says in my Weekly Shonen Jump Alpha.--Kisukeiscool100396 (talk) 23:50, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Aufreide. (Melt) '''Meer eh wolken, wolken eh regen, regen eh nebel. sieht balle eh um sieht ballen.' (Sea to cloud, cloud to rain, rain to fog. that with shape to that which is unseen.)''

Wir gut freude, Danach Vrund Dill Becher! (After our jubilation, the chalice will be turned face down!)


 * I don't speak German, but for what it's worth, the translation above matches pretty much exactly with the Japanese characters in the raw. 姿成すものよ is the right kanji for that line (shisei su mono yo). Vraieesprit (talk) 20:57, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

This one broke my brain, but, then, I don't have a great grasp of German grammar and idiom.

I don't think anyone's done this yet (at least above), but the katakana spelling seems to be:


 * Aufurīde
 * ''Mēa e Voruken Voruken e Rēgen Rēgen e Nēberu Jihitobāre e Unjihitobāren
 * Vīa gūto Furoide dāna Vuranto diru Behhyā
 * Rosu!!!

デイル seems to actually be ディル diru (note small i [ィ]); rosu, the furigana reading above saa (さあ), is, I guess, supposed to be *los, command (singular) form "draw! toss up" of German losen (saa in Japanese is usu. "come/go [on]"): the impression seems to be him evoking the elements in his "spell" to "do it, now!"

(note German nouns are, properly, all capitalized, so I tried to follow this above [where it seemed more certain])

The Weekly JUMP version seems to contain words (like aufreide, Vrund, and Dill) which seem not to occur in German (at least for the meanings they're ascribed above), whether I check a) my dictionary, b) Wiktionary (both English and German vers.), or c) Google searching phrases like "German ".

Plus, the katakana spellings seem odd if the words are accurate; for example: the -ei- in *aufr ei de would, in German, rhyme with English eye (like katakana ai), not have an "ee" sound, as here (katakana ī ); jihito- for sieht seems odd, since ieh is usu. a longer "ee" sound, and we should expect *jīhito; why is danach spelled as though *dahna instead of a more apt katakana *danāhha?; a word *Vrund should be Vurunto, NOT Vuranto, etc. Kubo mistakes, or... ???

I would've thought that the whole (Un)jihitobāre(n) things were forms derived from (un)sichtbar "(in)visible" (even if shiseisumono seems more properly "formative thing[s]", it's paired with miezarumono [見えざるもの] "unseen thing[s]"), perhaps elaborated as adjectival nouns *"things seen and unseen" (?), but I dunno.

I implore anyone with super German powers (XD) to help us out here. Adam Restling (talk) 10:08, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Loyd/Royd Lloyd
Here's another: with the raws for 510, I noticed that Royd and Loyd's names are depicted a little weird (to distinguish them since the kana are identical?), so I was hoping to get some confirmation from you guys. In addition, some clarification on their separate abilities would be pretty handy. Thanks! Mohrpheus  (Talk)  11:54, October 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would guess they've been put in roman characters because of what you said - the R/L character in Japanese is the same. At least, if that was what you were asking..?Vraieesprit (talk) 20:45, October 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I should have been more clear. Would "Rの" and "Lの" just be placed in front of ロイド・ロイド (Roido Roido) for the matching brother? Mohrpheus   (Talk)  21:18, October 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah, gomen. I was gonna suggest orientation (Left/Right) since they use those abbreviations sometimes for hidari and migi in Japanese, but unless I'm mistaken they're on the opposite sides for that to work. So I think you're probably right and that it relates to the fact a Quincy name ought to be written in roman script, where there'd be a difference.Vraieesprit (talk) 21:31, October 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just in case this wasn't answered in the above, the use of "Lの" (Eru no) and "Rの" (Āru no) are apparently just the "narrator" (Kubo) giving us explicit notes (along with spelling their names in those roman "labels") of which Roido is meant to be spelled with initial L-, and which with initial R-; they aren't meant to be nor needed as official "prefixes" of their names, from what I can see. Adam Restling (talk) 09:15, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Aizen War Power?
And yet another, this time by someone else's request. What is Juhabach saying about Aizen in relation to the special war powers? Mohrpheus  (Talk)  05:59, October 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * 特記戦力の一つとして我が麾下に入るよう言ったが案の定断りおった.
 * tokki-senryoku no hitotsu to shite wa ga kika ni hairu you itta ga an no tei kotowari-otta.


 * "As one of those with special war potential/power, I spoke to him about him coming under my command, but as I anticipated, he refused."


 * I don't know if Bwiki has an official translation for 特記戦力, but it literally means "particularly notable battle power". Vraieesprit (talk) 01:09, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

It was discussed previously here and though I don't believe a completely firm decision was ever reached, "Special War Power" is being used presently. Blackstar1 (talk) 01:19, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Soldat
Here's the kanji and katakana for the Soldat mentioned in chapter 511, as well as the raw. Blackstar1 (talk) 21:32, October 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Japanese characters mean "holy soldier", if that's relevant.Vraieesprit (talk) 22:02, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Kana is ゾルダート, isn't it? — ЖенёqSig.png 22:24, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think Blackstar is right. It looks like a 'so' to me, but the edge of the character is a little indistinct so at first glance it appears to be a dakuten ;)Vraieesprit (talk) 22:33, October 11, 2012 (UTC)'
 * I think I'm sure there is a dakuten. German 'Soldat' starts with 'z' sound. [zɔlˈdaːt] — ЖенёqSig.png 04:56, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

I think Zhenyoq is right (as Vraiee also intimated): there does seem to be extremely faint dakuten on the kana for so (making it zo), even fainter (by a smidge) than that of the one for da, so Zorudāto (ゾルダート) is prob. correct; although we might note that the plural should've been Soldaten, I believe ;). Adam Restling (talk) 09:29, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Underground Prison
Can someone please translate how Yamamoto refers to the underground prison on page 9 of chapter 510? Heres the kanji, 真央地下大監獄, and the raw. Blackstar1 (talk) 00:33, October 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think Yama's referring to it, I think it's a narration comment. 真央 means dead centre, but Central seems to suffice. Kanji order would make it Central Underground Great Prison. I would tweak it to Central Great Underground Prison, but that does shift the nuance slightly. Vraieesprit (talk) 00:56, October 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks again, Vraieesprit. Given the context, I'm more inclined to believe that its Yama's thoughts in response to Juhabach's question, though as there is some doubt, I think I'll wait to see if the term crops up again before making any changes. Blackstar1 (talk) 01:03, October 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * The word would have the same meaning irrespective of whether its a narrator or Yama. The translation would remain the same.Vraieesprit (talk) 01:12, October 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * What is the romanization for the kanji? Mohrpheus   (Talk)  15:40, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * shin'ōchikadaikangoku — ЖенёqSig.png 17:18, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Vraie's suggestion seems most apt: either "great central" or "central great underground prison"; like J.R.R. Tolkien said, in English, you should say "the great green dragon", not "the green great dragon" ;).

Thanks to everyone. Adam Restling (talk) 10:26, October 14, 2012 (UTC)