User talk:Lordofninjas1

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Hi! I'm Kamikaze839 of the Policy and Standards Committee. Please be aware that talk pages are for discussing maintenance and improvements to articles. What you have been posting is better suited for a blog or in the wiki forums. Thanks for your cooperation. --Kamikaze839 (talk) 18:43, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

I believe what I have been Posting are improvements to the Articles as you Improve the Articles by having More information about them on them and since I am providing Information based on Source Material and such things it is information that can be thought of and potentially used to post on the Articles thus improving said Article by having More information on the Articles Subject and such. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 18:53, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * We do not include things in the articles that have yet to be stated. None of what is known of Osho points to him being the Kido captain and your theory on Shutura is very stretched at best. This is no more than speculation at the moment. --Kamikaze839 (talk) 18:55, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

I understand that it is Speculation and that you don't post on Speculation (I even mention in the things that this is just Speculation and my opinion and such) but it is Speculation based on the Culture of the writer (in this case Japanese Culture) and information provided from the Source material and such. I'm not saying "oh you have to post this because it is correct information" because as far as I know I could be dead wrong all I am saying is based on the way that Kubo creates his characters and names them and such things and things mentioned in the Source Material I am making Logical assumptions that do make at least a little bit of sense that you guys may consider and think about and such (and while it is based on Evidence from source Material its not like I'm just pulling all this out of my butt and saying something like Ichigo is 200 Million years old or something (although I do know some people who would try to do that) so it does have some basis in whats Provided for us and again I'm not saying "post the information or I'll hate you forever and keep arguing with you about it and whatever" I'm just giving stuff to think about based on what we already have given to us and making Logical assumptions off of those things.) Lordofninjas1 (talk) 19:13, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

We're not saying you can't do that. However, talk pages are not the place to do it. As Kami said before, this type of content should be put in a blog or posted on the forums. Talk pages are places where decisions are made regarding changes to their respective articles, not where fans post their opinions.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:16, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Except that these could potentially one day be a change to the Article and so a discussion needs to be made about it. its information about it and it fits in with the article we are just waiting for a yes or no from Tite Kubo as to whether they are accurate or not. and its not really my opinion its more of a "well we have this evidence that says this and everyone knows that this says this and it ties in with this part of the Articles description and so it may have a possibility of somehow tying into it one day" an opinion is basically "I think Ichigo Should Be a Girl (rattle off some reasons that don't have anything to do with In-Universe Material) so yeah" Opinion is "I hate this or like this because (rattle off non-In-Universe Reasons" while what I'm doing is something completely different therefore it is not an opinion. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 19:40, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

If the change is one day made to the article, it will be when it is expressly stated or shown in the manga, not because someone brought up the possibility of it being true beforehand. And yes, it is your opinion. You are taking various things about these characters and formulating theories on them. A theory is interchangeable with an opinion in this case, as it is what you think is true. Therefore, it is an opinion and speculation, something we do not allow. I would advise you to read the Speculation Policy as well as this blog before you respond.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:49, March 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Information on the site is as it comes, we dont need to have discussions about maybe and what ifs to possibly put into articles some day. We dont create the story nor do we interpret content to put in the articles later on based on that. It is not our job to determine beforehand whats to take place or what can take place. That is entirely Kubo's job, unless your kubo anything stated is nothing more then opinion, assumption, speculation and at best the info we have may heavily favor something but unless shown or stated within the source material where there can be no question what is being said or taken place we do not put it into articles. Its that simple. Respect that and stop arguing with our staff please.--


 * We are an "in the moment" Wiki, meaning that we only deal with what is currently concretely known, whether it be through Kubo's interviews or what is shown in the manga. We don't use what we have to look to the future, only focus on what we currently know. --Kamikaze839 (talk) 20:02, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

RE
I don't have long it is very late here and I am unwell!! We understand your concern about the article but please understand that when something isn't done it is not out of laziness or anything like that it is because people are in the middle of other tasks!! It was I who was mentioning about doing something from over four years ago due to complications we haven't done them yet namely completely rewriting This Article and adding images to it at the same time which is very time consuming, if you compare the changes in the History of the article you will see just what I have changed and I am rewriting all the articles associated with that arc!! Getting angry at us for not doing one article is not really productive as we will do it when somebody has the time or opportunity!! People edit here of their own free will we do not order them to do so and expect the same in return!! So please be patient, the manga chapters are not my specialty so no doubt someone will get to it when they can!! Thanks!!

oh. well hope you get well soon. not to be rude but if you notice I did state that I understand you guys are busy but that it could be construed as laziness and such. I also stated that I know that not everyone is in the middle of a task so someone should be able to do that. I'm not really sure what would take 4 years to work on that article as you could just watch all the needed episodes and such and keep notes and then just type all of it in. I have tested this and easily got through multiple arcs within only a few days. even with work and/or school and sleep you still have about 7 hours or a day to watch episodes (which equals out to about 14 Episodes a day) just saying, not trying to be rude just trying to be helpful I've added to articles and put pictures on them (not on here but other wikis) and its super easy and non-time consuming to do so at all (at the most it takes about a half hour to an hour) why are you completely rewriting the articles? just take out the incorrect parts and fix it with correct parts (again not trying to be rude or anything its just common sense and such). I'm not really getting angry I was just stating that it needed to be done and felt like no one was paying attention to me trying to be helpful in that respect (which I'm sure you know would make anyone feel upset or angry) and as I stated previously I know there are people who have the time and opportunity to do it but for whatever reason arent. I know people edit of there own free will I'm not asking you to command them to edit just pass it on like "hey this article isnt complete and I know you have some free time so if you are willing you could fix it and make the wiki better or you could pass it on to someone else you know that has free time (making it commanding but at the same time giving them the option of free will) I am being patient however that is the only way some people are able to get there manga fix (due to parental blocks on there computer, not knowing how to get to or access Manga sites etc.) I know some people like that and it will only make your wiki look better as it has complete articles and not just sporatic good article bad article etc. I know they aren't your specialty but I bet you know someone who it is there specialty and they have some free time so let them know that it needs to get done (like I said above commanding but with the choice of free will) and get them to do it. so yeah. again not trying to be rude just giving you options and ways to make things a lot easier on yourself and ways to improve the wiki and everything. so yeah. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 18:26, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * She's not saying it took her 4 years to complete, she's saying the article hasn't been worked on in 4 years because we've been busy with other things. Also, you yourself said you got through multiple arcs in a few days (sic). If this is so, you should easily able to read 1 chapter and write a summary. From my perspective, you still sound like you're trying to push work onto other people rather than do it yourself, and the fact that you're saying we're lazy for not doing 1 chapter summary isn't helping your case of "I'm not trying to be rude or offensive". Seems like sheer hypocrisy to me.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:12, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

If you continue to use the world lazy in regards to people here who actually add to articles then I will recommend another form of banning!! We are well aware of things that need done and things that need rewriting are in need of it for a reason, they do not have all the information that is required of them!! And you are writing essays on one thing, if the summary means that much then edit it and if it needs altering you will be informed!! Otherwise this insulting conversation is moot!!

@Xilinoc: ok just a bit of confusion on the 4 year thing was all. Multiple arcs of the Anime in a few days (I think I specified that but if not then its the anime) and I havent really read a full arc of manga at all ever (especially since my computer doesn't do too well anymore) I'm not trying to push work on others as I've stated before I would gladly do it if I could and all that but I can't, and I'm not saying you are lazy (read again it says that what your doing from my opinion CAN BE CONSTRUED as being lazy).

@SunXia: again not using lazy, I said that I know you guys are busy but whats happening MAY BE CONSTRUED as being lazy. ok well if you are well aware of it then get them done, as I stated before I know you have people who aren't doing anything or whatever that can and are able to do them, and I know why things need to be edited and worked on and all that (that part didn't need to be said) just update it as the information comes in, easy right?. I'm writing "essays" because thats the only way I can get people to understand the full picture and all that. and as I've mentioned before I would love to do the summary if I could but for reasons previously stated I am unable to. not being insulting at all (I even say that I'm not being insulting or whatever) so that last part is just a waste of words and breath. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 23:39, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

What I find somewhat astonishing that you as a user would have the audacity to come on the site and tell people, who give of their free time from work and real life who edit here as much as they can, what they need or should be doing when you yourself have not contributed anything. Then on top of that you make a notion that people are lazy or as you put it can be construed as lazy in your own opinion. Then you say your not being insulting, which is interesting cause now your dictating how people should feel about how you speak to them, when the consensus seems to say your being insulting. Stating that you would do work but cant. As in you would if you could is also no excuse, if the world worked on i would if i could then this would be paradise. Regardless of your inability to do whatever yourself for whatever reason doesnt give you the right to tell other people they should do it when you dont take into account their own situation, its highly hypocritical. Then you state you know we have people doing nothing, it amazes me the level of clairvoyance you possess to tell someone that you know that they arent doing anything and therefore can work. Who are these people that you know arent doing anything? In short I dont think you need to be telling anyone what they should be doing and instead of writing long condescending messages explaining why your "not" being insulting you could be doing something more constructive with your time.--

I know they give of there own free will and time (I never said they didn't so that didn't need to be said) I'm not saying they should be doing it I'm saying this needs to get done by somebody (as I've stated before would if I could) so that they know so that they can better the wiki and such. being lazy and construed as lazy are 2 different things and yes the actions and way things were done can be seen as being lazy. I'm not trying to dictate anything, I'm saying that the way that I intended things to come across and such wasn't meant in an insulting way, I'm not saying feel this way I'm saying that my intention was different then how you may think of it. explain your thoughts as to how a world of "I would if I could" would be paradise, I can think of some things that won't make it paradise. how am I not taking into account there situation? did you not see that I even mention "I know you guys are busy and have stuff to do" if thats not taking there situation into account I don't know what is and again I'm not saying they should do it I'm just saying that its something that needs to get done. I'm not saying that the people I was specifically talking to weren't doing anything, I was saying that there were users on the wiki who aren't doing work or important things for the wiki and have time to do so. I haven't paid any attention to names or pictures or anything but I know that there are people who are that way. again I'm not telling anyone what they should be doing only that something needs to get done. the messages are long so that I can cover all the points you make and such and so that you can usually get the full picture of whats going on (the better and more detailed the better and easier it is to understand). again intention was not to be condescending, I know I can come across like that at some points in time and I am working on it but that isn't my intention or anything. I would be doing something more constructive if there was more constructive things to be doing and I have been trying to be helpful and constructive (don't tell me that I'm not because I know I am at least trying to be). and I thank you guys for finally posting the summary for the chapter, see all I was doing was trying to be helpful and have you guys improve the wiki (which I finally succeeded in) doesn't it feel good to have something in order and complete and everything then have to worry about it? not to mention that that is the only way some people can actually get the manga and everything (due to parental blocks on there computers, not knowing of any manga sites and/or not knowing manga can be found online, etc. etc.) so you are in turn being helpful and better for users and everything else, again doesn't that feel good? Lordofninjas1 (talk) 19:57, June 6, 2013 (UTC)