Bleach Wiki:Chat/February 4, 2013

 [12:38]  Hi CiFeR215, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [12:38]  still bored [12:49]  Hi Kamikaze839, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [12:50]  GoOOOo RAVENS [12:59]  hey Kami [12:59]  got it on i see [01:00]  who are you for [01:17]  Ravens too [01:19]  there kicking ass right now [01:19]  Nicee [01:20]  thanks God [01:20]  I'm rooting for ravens because if the ravens win, then the redskins will be the best team for beating the super bowl champ, along with the other teams that beat the ravens [01:21]  honestly unless the Giants are playing i usually watch primarily for the commercials [01:22]  At least you aren't a cowgirls fan [01:22]  usualy good food too but my plans fell through for tonight so i'm watching with my bro [01:23] <CiFeR215> lol [01:23] <CiFeR215> yep [01:24] <Kamikaze839> isme says that endurance is the ability to fight over a prolonged period of time, though I would say that's more of stamina than endurance [01:25] <CiFeR215> i would too [01:25] <CiFeR215> but if we are calling endurance i think it should be added in a few spots [01:27] <CiFeR215> i see it was removed [01:28] <CiFeR215> why is that? [01:29] <CiFeR215> i don't get why it was removed everything seems valid to me [01:31] <CiFeR215> aahhh man come on it was removed on all pages? [01:34] <Godismebot> Hi Salubri, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [01:35] <Kamikaze839> Hey Sal [01:36] <Salubri> hi [01:36] <CiFeR215> hi Sal [01:36] <CiFeR215> maybe you know [01:36] <CiFeR215> what's up with the endurance/durabilty thing [01:36] <CiFeR215> ? [01:41] <Salubri> well for one under Nnorita, you state resilience which is durability so that doesnt belong, then you say he fought kenpachi on even grounds which is more to do with his swordsmanship skill [01:41] <Salubri> lastly arrancar in general have an issue as their durability is primarily provided by their hierro [01:42] <Salubri> they basically regenerate after release [01:42] <CiFeR215> so basically for arrancar both are combined into there hierro section than? [01:42] <Salubri> you could say that [01:42] <CiFeR215> ok so than could i add what i put on into there hierro section? [01:42] <CiFeR215> oh wait what happened? [01:42] <CiFeR215> lights went out? [01:43] <CiFeR215> i missed it [01:43] <CiFeR215> anyway would it be ok to add to the hierro sections than? [01:44] <Salubri> also endurance is commonly implied by all characters in the series with exception its not necessary to list unless its greatly significant [01:44] <CiFeR215> i get that [01:44] <CiFeR215> makes sense [01:45] <CiFeR215> i was only going to add to like Stark, Grimmjow, Nnoitra, maybe Hallibel [01:45] <Salubri> fighting and sustaining injuries is expected so being about to tolerate said injuries is nothing new [01:45] <CiFeR215> i wouldn't add for like aaroniero or zommari for example [01:45] <Salubri> some of the characters abilities also already account for how they are capable in that regard [01:47] <CiFeR215> i still think that it's noteworthy that some characters, like Starrk and Nnoitra are particularly tough in this regard that they have greater endurance/stamina than the average arrancar [01:49] <Salubri> also on Starrk you state something about the wolves being more powerful then cero. Its not necessary as once starrk explains that the wolves are pieces of his soul its already determined to be far more powerful then a cero could be, starrk states as much anyhow as they are beyond cero. Then the part at the end you state Anime directly in the article which is not allowed. Also what happens in the manga takes precedent over anything in the anime especially if it contradicts the manga. That info would be relevant only to trivia section [01:49] <CiFeR215> i'm ok with it being added to hierro too if that's how it has to be but do you at least see my point Sal? [01:50] <CiFeR215> wait i though i put the episode number if not i made a mistake sory about that [01:50] <Salubri> In the anime it was shown that Lilynette actually manifests as the wolves and should they be destroyed, she dies along with them.&lt;ref&gt;Bleach anime; 283&lt;/ref&gt; this is what you put [01:50] <CiFeR215> what's wrong with the reference [01:50] <CiFeR215> ? [01:51] <CiFeR215> just so i know [01:51] <Salubri> beyond that as i just stated you used in the anime in the sentence which is not allowed [01:51] <Godismebot> Hi Kamikaze839, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [01:51] <CiFeR215> OH ok i get what you're saying now [01:51] <Salubri> secondly manga takes precedent which is why it wasnt listed in the first place [01:52] <Salubri> if anything it maybe a trivia section post. [01:52] <CiFeR215> not the actual reference but the sentence itself? [01:52] <CiFeR215> ok so that could go into trivia than but what about the endurance thing? [01:52] <CiFeR215> add to hierro? [01:54] <CiFeR215> idea [01:54] <CiFeR215> what about for arrancar adding to a stamina section instead of endurance? [01:54] <Salubri> thats something that will likely have to be brought up to the committee cause its questionable if its a necessary addition as most if not all of what you would have is already listed there under hierro. [01:55] <CiFeR215> i see hierro as how much damage they can take [01:55] <Salubri> stamina is questionable fights dont last more then minutes in bleach so stamina would be pointless to note [01:55] <CiFeR215> what i'm shooting for is how much damage they can take but still fight [01:56] <CiFeR215> so wether its called stamina, endurance or whatever i think it should be added no? [01:56] <Salubri> Im not certain about that [01:56] <Kamikaze839> Remember Cifer, anime's tend to be confusing [01:57] <CiFeR215> lol [01:57] <CiFeR215> i am genuinely confused aout this though [01:57] <CiFeR215> about* [01:57] <Salubri> way to much overlaps in what is already listed on the page, what that would essentially be doing is breaking small details down way too much [01:58] <CiFeR215> than why list 2 seperate sections for a shinigami? [01:58] <Salubri> if its already stated then why state it another way [01:58] <Salubri> what two sections? [01:59] <CiFeR215> durability which i see as the shinigami counterpart to hierro [01:59] <CiFeR215> and than there is the endurance section [01:59] <Salubri> on what page [01:59] <CiFeR215> Zaraki for example has both endurance and durability listed [02:00] <CiFeR215> that's what made me start thinking about it [02:00] <CiFeR215> something seems unbalanced there between shinigami and arrancar [02:00] <Kamikaze839> blackout bowl [02:00] <CiFeR215> lol i know wtf [02:02] <CiFeR215> also Sal don't mean to dwell on this since i know it's not that important it's just that i'm genuinely confused about it [02:03] <Salubri> its relevant to his character, the problem i think your having is that your look for balance or something to that affect your just not gonna get it with the arrancar for many reasons. Such as they arent prominent characters so the amount of info isnt there. Just because something was done for one character or another doesnt mean that necessary all characters get the same treatment, all characters are case by case at best. [02:03] <CiFeR215> i get that but some arrancar seem to be...well...harder to keep down than some others [02:03] <Salubri> all characters while heirro is similar to durability they arent considered counterparts [02:04] <CiFeR215> as is the case with the shinigami [02:04] <CiFeR215> hmmm [02:04] <CiFeR215> not sure i get it Sal but i will take your word for it since you're probably right [02:05] <Salubri> any more then an arrancars zanpakuto could be considered an actual zanpakuto in anything but name. they have a sword like a shinigami but thats where the comparison ends. [02:05] <CiFeR215> but isn't hierro basically like there armor? [02:06] <Salubri> basically [02:06] <Salubri> shinigami are more durable then a human but they have no armor [02:06] <CiFeR215> so than why not add something about those that can fight on even after there "armor" is bypassed? [02:07] <CiFeR215> not all arrancar would fall into this group but surely some right? [02:07] <CiFeR215> Zsayelaporro for example would be ok with just hierro [02:08] <CiFeR215> but Nnoitra was on a whole different level combat wise [02:08] <Salubri> better question is who has sustained injuries to the point of likely being dead and kept fighting, i dont recall one arrancar. They have sustained at best considerably grievous injuries and kept fighting but nothing that stands out [02:08] <CiFeR215> hierro and high endurance or tolerance for pain or whatever [02:09] <CiFeR215> Nnoitra was nearly cut in half by Kenpachi and refused to stop fighting until he was dead [02:09] <CiFeR215> Grimmjow was on the verge of death and stayed going too [02:09] <Salubri> nnorita had the hardest hierro supposedly and a level of high speed regeneration [02:10] <CiFeR215> and Grim [02:10] <Salubri> grimmjow was defeated not dead if anything he was beat uo [02:10] <Salubri> up [02:10] <Salubri> severly [02:11] <CiFeR215> i must be honest man i'm not sure i see the difference i still sort of think that certain arrancar are particularly tough hierro aside damage them and they keep coming [02:12] <CiFeR215> Aaroniero for example took one good shot and it was all over so for him he was kind of weak [02:12] <Salubri> he got stabbed in the head [02:12] <CiFeR215> Baraggan had have his skull blown off [02:12] <CiFeR215> half* [02:12] <Salubri> in a particuarly vulnerable spot considering it was glass tube [02:13] <CiFeR215> but kept on coming until he just couldn't anymore [02:14] <Salubri> thats a very simple way of looking at it but, barragan had a piece of his skull blown off otherwise he was fine, secondly its questionable of what qualifies with him considering he was a skeleton. [02:14] <CiFeR215> true [02:14] <CiFeR215> i definetly see where you're coming from [02:14] <Salubri> the point is its case by case [02:15] <Salubri> starrk sustained injuries true, but noting significant enough, it wasnt like he had half his body blown off and lived to talk about it [02:16] <Salubri> also no one questions his ability surpassing most of the espada [02:16] <Salubri> so then it comes down to how many other ways are you gonna say the same thing over [02:16] <CiFeR215> lol [02:17] <Godismebot> Hi Xilinoc, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [02:17] <CiFeR215> chill man i still think i have a valid point but ok [02:17] <Xilinoc> Talking about endurance? [02:17] <CiFeR215> yep [02:17] <Salubri> his hierro sections says essentially the same thing you put except under a different name and references [02:17] <CiFeR215> i'm lost though [02:18] <Xilinoc> I had always thought endurance=ability to continue fighting despite injuries and durability=resistance to damage, but it would appear I'm wrong. [02:18] <CiFeR215> me 2 i guess [02:18] <Salubri> i was trying to explain hierro is like armor its essential to their durability and endurance. Shinigami dont really have the equivalent [02:19] <Xilinoc> Yeah [02:19] <Xilinoc> Wit the possible exception of Zaraki. [02:19] <Salubri> yea [02:19] <CiFeR215> what about the little part i added about Grimmjow using his tail to strike with reference? [02:20] <Salubri> but even his is something learnable and involved using reiryoku/reiatsu [02:20] <Salubri> you have to talk to godisme about that [02:20] <CiFeR215> k [02:20] <Xilinoc> He is true super sand. [02:20] <Xilinoc> No one else is. [02:21] <CiFeR215> it's not like i really care about the endurance thing it's just sort of confusing since endurance and durability are so similar [02:21] <Xilinoc> So no one else makes their opponent's hands bleed instead of themselves. [02:22] <CiFeR215> no problem with tweaking the hierro sections though right? [02:23] <CiFeR215> also [02:23] <CiFeR215> you guys watching the superbowl? [02:23] <Xilinoc> Nope [02:24] <Xilinoc> I don't find football interesting. [02:24] <CiFeR215> Giants aren't playing so i'm just watching for the commercials [02:24] <Salubri> i would say hierro is arrancar specific ability that is similar to armor its their durability with a bit of endurance concept mixed in. [02:24] <CiFeR215> most of the time neither do i really [02:24] <Salubri> nope im noy [02:24] <Salubri> not [02:24] <CiFeR215> i could agree with that Sal [02:25] <CiFeR215> but i think it that the hierro sections don't really point that out well [02:25] <Salubri> as far as tweaking anything, if it already states it then best to leave it as it is [02:25] <Xilinoc> Similar to how reishi manipulation is (so far) exclusive to the Quincy, at least within the canonical storyline [02:25] <CiFeR215> ur prolly right though i will leave it be [02:25] <Salubri> who else would it be exclusive to [02:26] <Salubri> ? [02:26] <CiFeR215> oh yea [02:27] <CiFeR215> anyone think Zsayelaporro could be considered a genius intellect type? [02:27] <Xilinoc> Bounts, sort of [02:27] <Xilinoc> They can absorb it [02:27] <Xilinoc> Which could be considered a form of manipulation [02:28] <Salubri> really Xil the bounts [02:28] <Salubri> im not even having a conversation on the bounts (anime filler) [02:28] <Xilinoc> Yup [02:29] <Xilinoc> Like I said, within the canonical storyline [02:30] <Salubri> idk about szayel [02:30] <Salubri> one can be a scientist and inventor and not a genius [02:31] <CiFeR215> true [02:32] <Kamikaze839> ideed [02:32] <CiFeR215> hey at least you guy are knowledgable about this stuff not like some people that just argue based on there opinion alone [02:32] <Xilinoc> Yup [02:32] <Xilinoc> Like the fanfic wiki [02:32] <Xilinoc> And those who think Narita's novel is canon [02:32] <CiFeR215> oh man i went on ther for like 2 minutes and had to get off cause i was getting soooo pissed [02:33] <CiFeR215> someone did the 10 most unpopular characters check it out [02:33] <CiFeR215> you won't believe it [02:33] <Salubri> such as? [02:33] <CiFeR215> apparently Ichigo isn't all that popular [02:33] <Salubri> i can see that [02:33] <Xilinoc> Really now [02:34] <CiFeR215> which is b.s i dont care [02:34] <CiFeR215> he is the "me too" character that EVERYONE likes [02:34] <Xilinoc> I assume Rukia is the most unpopular because "ugh so bitchy and can't bankai" [02:34] <CiFeR215> Yamamoto too who is one of my favorite characters [02:35] <Salubri> that i think is wrong. [02:35] <CiFeR215> no but Soi Fon was listed for that reason i love Soi Fon so i was pretty pissed about that [02:35] <CiFeR215> what is? [02:35] <Salubri> yama shouldnt be on that list [02:36] <Xilinoc> He really shouldn't [02:36] <Salubri> but then again its the fan fiction wiki look at the crap thats on there [02:36] <CiFeR215> i agree [02:36] <CiFeR215> they put him at number 6 [02:36] <CiFeR215> i HATE THEM!!!! [02:36] <CiFeR215> lol [02:36] <Xilinoc> I think Yamamato is a cool guy. He kills Stern Ritter and doesn't afraid of anything. [02:36] <CiFeR215> here is the list [02:37] <CiFeR215> [02:37] <CiFeR215> 1 Top Ten Most Hated BLEACH Characters [02:37] <CiFeR215> 2 10: Zommari Rureaux [02:37] <CiFeR215> 3 9: Soi-Fon [02:37] <CiFeR215> 4 8: Sado [02:37] <CiFeR215> 5 7: Kon [02:37] <CiFeR215> 6 6: Yamamoto [02:37] <CiFeR215> 7 5: Kenpachi Zaraki [02:37] <CiFeR215> 8 4: Orihime Inoue [02:37] <CiFeR215> 9 3: Ichigo Kurosaki [02:37] <CiFeR215> 10 2: Byakuya Kuchiki [02:37] <CiFeR215> 11 1: Tōshiro Hitsugaya [02:37] <CiFeR215> 12 End [02:37] <CiFeR215> [02:37] <Salubri> i dont like ichigo myself but that do to a neglectful amount of character development on him as well as O.P. with no reasonable explanation. [02:37] <Xilinoc> OK, Hitsugaya I can see because of the fangirls [02:37] <Salubri> wait a minute [02:37] <Xilinoc> But Sado? Really? [02:37] <CiFeR215> Hitsugaya and Soi Fon are my faveorite captains too [02:38] <Xilinoc> What's wrong with Sado? [02:38] <CiFeR215> i know poor guy just tries to help out his friends and always gets smacked around for it [02:38] <Salubri> this ridiculous hate for hitsugaya is kind of stupid when there are so many people who love Ulquiorra so that doesnt make sense [02:38] <Kamikaze839> yeah [02:38] <CiFeR215> why hate on him he is such an awesome character [02:38] <Salubri> he has far more fan girls and guys who are man crushing on him [02:39] <Salubri> no not really and you already know why [02:39] <CiFeR215> why? [02:39] <Salubri> everything they like about him is just not true [02:39] <Xilinoc> Man crush on Hitsugaya? [02:40] <CiFeR215> honestly i think he is badass and don't get me started on Hyorinmaru [02:40] <Salubri> they think he is powerful, yea compared to everyone listed below him in the espada and ichigo for a minute or two [02:40] <Salubri> he has a second release pointless as well still lost [02:40] <CiFeR215> i have a crush on Rangiku ;) [02:40] <Salubri> no mancrush on ulquiorra [02:40] <Xilinoc> Ulquiorra's segunda etapa gives him a tail and the ability to makes places asplode [02:41] <Xilinoc> Not very different from regular Resurreccion [02:41] <Salubri> exactly [02:41] <CiFeR215> lol Xi u really don't care for him do you? [02:41] <Xilinoc> And who mancrushes on Ulquiorra? [02:41] <Xilinoc> Cifer, I don't not care for him [02:41] <CiFeR215> who mancrushes? [02:41] <Salubri> you [02:41] <Salubri> and anyone that like ulquiorra [02:42] <Xilinoc> But the ridiculous fanfare around Segunda Etapa is unecessarry [02:42] <CiFeR215> HELL NO!! [02:42] <Salubri> there is no justifiable reason to like him [02:42] <CiFeR215> nel [02:42] <CiFeR215> rangiku [02:42] <CiFeR215> soi fon [02:42] <Xilinoc> But Sal, he's so deep and meaningful [02:42] <CiFeR215> thats what i'm talkin bout JACK [02:42] <Xilinoc> /sarcasm [02:42] <Salubri> he had no personality [02:43] <Salubri> a bowl of fruit had more going for it then he did [02:43] <CiFeR215> first i want to get it straight that the only reson I liked him was the same reason anyone liked him [02:43] <CiFeR215> segunda etapa [02:43] <CiFeR215> but he isn't my fave or anything even though i chose a pic of him on here [02:43] <CiFeR215> also Hitsugaya is still cool [02:44] <Salubri> did we not just prove that release false and pointless [02:45] <CiFeR215> no and nobody can because of what happened [02:45] <Salubri> what happened [02:45] <CiFeR215> first Ulq is owning than Ichigo Op's him like there is no tomorrow [02:45] <CiFeR215> who knew Ichigo would go all hollow on his ass like that [02:46] <Salubri> so let me get this straight [02:46] <CiFeR215> shoot [02:47] <CiFeR215> man you guys will have me changing my pic by the end of this lol [02:48] <Salubri> if ulquiorra does it then its fine but if ichigo (the main character) does it to the expendable bad guy we all know is gonna die then its O.P. and doesn't prove that the second release was basic plot device trash. Because last i checked it was always hinted at about this inner hollow form, and ulquiorra's came out of nowhere. so i think you have that entirely backwards. [02:50] <CiFeR215> no all i mean is that we really don't know what segunda etapa does or doesn't do for him(looks and techniques aside) because Ichigo was getting owned before AND after segunda etapa than just went all super saiyan hollow on his ass and ended it so nobody can really say anything much about segunda etapa [02:50] <Xilinoc> If Ulquiorra had any abilities beyond Lanza de Relampago, he would've used them [02:51] <Xilinoc> He had many chances to [02:51] <Salubri> it changed his appearance which is odd considering the second release appearance would have been the first on any other arrancar. it also gave him a black cero. big deal. it didnt do anything more then what we saw or else he would have used it in this amazing fight right? Yea Aizen had more going on his transformations then this pointless second release did. I think your looking for more to be there then looking at it for what it was [02:52] <CiFeR215> i'm not saying he does i'm just saying that segunda etapa is in a class of it's own for now [02:52] <Xilinoc> Until Grimmjow and Harribel have it because plotkai [02:52] <Salubri> no not really its in a class of someone who lost [02:52] <CiFeR215> lol [02:53] <CiFeR215> it can't be compared to anything its just Ulquiorra's second release [02:53] <Xilinoc> I still think Ichigo would've beaten the crap out of most of the people in Fake Karakura town had he gone there in that Hollow form [02:53] <Salubri> Even if Grimmjow had it theres gonna always be someone to own him proving its ineffectiveness. Imagine it verse a Volstaang. [02:53] <CiFeR215> oh hell yes he would've [02:54] <Xilinoc> I'm not even sure what Segunda Etapa does to an Arrancar. [02:54] <CiFeR215> it's clear it gives him some kind of power boost but we will never know to what extent agreed? [02:54] <Xilinoc> Unlike regular Resurreccion, we can't compare two character s and say "oh, they both gain this, so that's an added effect" [02:54] <Salubri> you say it cant be compared to anything but we can, compared to a hollowfied ichigo it doesnt hold up. [02:55] <CiFeR215> but hollowfied ichigo is in a class of it's own too [02:55] <Xilinoc> That hollowfied Ichigo is the definition of OP [02:55] <Salubri> matter of fact with what it can do it did nothing to help ulquiorra he was basically showing off [02:55] <CiFeR215> thats like comparing a bankai with aizen and the hogyoku [02:55] <CiFeR215> exactly it is op [02:55] <Salubri> its shiny and nice ot look at but not practical when used [02:56] <Salubri> not really he used some sonido, regeneration and a cero nothing out of the ordinary he was just superior. [02:56] <Salubri> O.P. is anything the Vandenreich and Aizen does [02:56] <Xilinoc> And the kersplodey lance [02:57] <CiFeR215> my head is about to kersplode [02:57] <CiFeR215> heheh [02:57] <CiFeR215> ok question for you guys [02:57] <Xilinoc> Shoot. [02:57] <CiFeR215> hottest Bleach girl? GO [02:57] <Xilinoc> Hmm... [02:57] <Salubri> idk [02:57] <CiFeR215> yes u do [02:57] <Xilinoc> Objectively, Rangiku. [02:58] <Xilinoc> /Nel [02:58] <CiFeR215> i could agree with that Xi [02:58] <CiFeR215> Rangiku [02:59] <CiFeR215> cmon Sal who's ur pick? [02:59] <Xilinoc> Sal has no emtotions. [02:59] <Xilinoc> emotions [02:59] <CiFeR215> aha [02:59] <CiFeR215> he's Ulquiora [02:59] <Xilinoc> No. [02:59] <Salubri> i have emotions just for real females [02:59] <Xilinoc> He's not emo. [03:00] <CiFeR215> jk man [03:00] <CiFeR215> not asking which character you would propose to lol [03:01] <Godismebot> Hi HumpingYourMom, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [03:01] <HumpingYourMom> Yo [03:01] <HumpingYourMom> The adventure time wiki was bashing you guys. [03:01] <HumpingYourMom> j/s [03:01] <Xilinoc> Really now. [03:01] <CiFeR215> dude u need 10 edits to be here [03:01] <HumpingYourMom> Uuh. [03:02] <HumpingYourMom> I have more then 10 edits on my main. [03:02] <CiFeR215> oh ok [03:02] <HumpingYourMom> I can relog if it's an issue. [03:02] <CiFeR215> so they were bashing us eh? [03:02] <HumpingYourMom> Yes. [03:02] <HumpingYourMom> Then I tried to troll them for it. [03:02] <HumpingYourMom> And swiftly was banned. [03:02] <HumpingYourMom> Then I had like 10 friends troll them. [03:02] <Xilinoc> What part were they bashing? [03:02] <HumpingYourMom> Well it wasnt JUST bleach. [03:02] <HumpingYourMom> It was anime in general. [03:03] <Xilinoc> Wow. [03:03] <HumpingYourMom> But they dug heavily into bleach. [03:03] <Xilinoc> I'm sure. [03:03] <HumpingYourMom> Using it as an example. [03:03] <CiFeR215> anime? [03:03] <HumpingYourMom> Though in their defense, bleach has gone down hill a bit. [03:03] <CiFeR215> in general? [03:03] <HumpingYourMom> Yes. [03:03] <CiFeR215> are they stupid ? [03:03] <Godismebot> Hi HumpingYourMom, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [03:03] <HumpingYourMom> I was wondering what that was. [03:03] <HumpingYourMom> It's a bot. [03:04] <HumpingYourMom> @_@ [03:04] <HumpingYourMom> I've never understood those. [03:04] <CiFeR215> yep [03:04] <CiFeR215> no [03:04] <CiFeR215> Naruto has gone down hill not Bleach [03:04] <HumpingYourMom> While I'm here~. [03:04] <HumpingYourMom> LOL [03:04] <Godismebot> Hi Godisme, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [03:04] <HumpingYourMom> Naruto? [03:04] <Xilinoc> Oh my [03:04] <Godismebot> Hi HumpingYourMom, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [03:04] <HumpingYourMom> Whoa. [03:04] <HumpingYourMom> o-o [03:04] <HumpingYourMom> What was that for? [03:04] <HumpingYourMom> Is it the name? [03:05] <Godismebot> Hi Godisme, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [03:05] <CiFeR215> maybe [03:05] <Xilinoc> I was wondering when that would happen. [03:05] <HumpingYourMom> Because I can get on my main if it's that. [03:05] <Xilinoc> ... [03:05] <CiFeR215> i wondered if the name was ok too? [03:05] <Xilinoc> God, did he need 10 edits on this wiki or was the name bad? [03:05] <Godismebot> Hi Skarrj, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [03:05] <Skarrj> O_o [03:05] <Skarrj> You didn't have to ban me. [03:06] <Skarrj> And I've done more then 10 edits on my main. [03:06] <Skarrj> Which I'm on. [03:06] <CiFeR215> dam that was quick [03:06] <Xilinoc> ... [03:06] <Skarrj> As I was saying... [03:06] <Skarrj> Ginjo. [03:07] <CiFeR215> Xi i'm currently looking for a different image to use now [03:07] <Skarrj> Why aint he on the list of Getsuga Tensho users? [03:07] <Xilinoc> Wait, is AT wiki bashing us or Bleach? [03:07] <Skarrj> They said the wikia was shit. [03:07] <Skarrj> But that was a different thing. [03:07] <CiFeR215> there shit [03:07] <Skarrj> ^ [03:07] <Skarrj> I said that too. [03:07] <Skarrj> And I was banned. [03:07] <Skarrj> lol [03:07] <Xilinoc> I can't possibly imagine why. [03:08] <CiFeR215> bunch of haters! [03:08] <Skarrj> Someone brought up DBZ wikia. [03:08] <Skarrj> And that they didn't know it had one. [03:08] <Skarrj> And from there they went into anime. [03:08] <Skarrj> And were just bashing wiki after wiki. [03:09] <Xilinoc> Wow. [03:09] <Skarrj> Though I admit, for a simple TV series, they have a ton of pages. [03:09] <Skarrj> And they have the largest active community I've ever seen on a wiki. [03:09] <CiFeR215> who has time to sit online bashing anime's? [03:09] <Skarrj> &lt;--- [03:10] <Skarrj> I play fan-made anime games. [03:10] <Skarrj> And make my own. [03:10] <Skarrj> And people bash bleach constantly on them. [03:10] <Skarrj> lol [03:10] <Skarrj> Well... [03:10] <Skarrj> Not CONSTANTLY. [03:10] <Skarrj> But if people bring up animes running longer then they should. [03:11] <Skarrj> People will talk about how trollish Kubo has gone with bleach. [03:11] <Skarrj> And that it should've ended after Aizen's death. [03:11] <Skarrj> And how Ichigo has literally been every race. [03:11] <Xilinoc> Aizen isn't dead though. [03:11] <Skarrj> And that they're gonna pull a DBZ and run for 70 years. [03:11] <Skarrj> Well true. [03:11] <Skarrj> But after his defeat you'd have expected the series to have... Ended. [03:12] <CiFeR215> ok new pic on my "crush" [03:12] <Xilinoc> Too many unresolved plot points. [03:12] <Skarrj> They should've ended bleach. [03:12] <Skarrj> And done a spin off. [03:12] <CiFeR215> nope [03:12] <Skarrj> I was expecting them to do a spin off following some human who was a fullbringer. [03:12] <CiFeR215> nope [03:12] <Skarrj> Why not? lol [03:13] <CiFeR215> a spin off will never happen [03:13] <Xilinoc> Because Ichigo's the prototagonist. [03:15] <CiFeR215> they prolly won't even finish the actual Bleach anime nevermind a spin off [03:15] <CiFeR215> Sal is silent on this one heheh [03:18] <CiFeR215> wow there is a bleach pairing for Jinta and Ururu? [03:18] <CiFeR215> what's wrong with people? [03:18] <Xilinoc> Shh, Sal is working on his plan of world domination. [03:18] <Xilinoc> Everything is wrong with people. [03:19] <Xilinoc> And by people, I mean everyone else. [03:19] <CiFeR215> is that why the plan for world domination is needed? [03:19] <CiFeR215> man gota change my username now [03:19] <Skarrj> Tite Kubo is gonna ride bleach into the ground. [03:19] <CiFeR215> "CiFeR215" with a Rangiku pic heheh [03:20] <Skarrj> He has made Ichigo EVERY race. [03:20] <CiFeR215> i suppose u could do better? [03:20] <Skarrj> What do you mean? [03:21] <CiFeR215> i think he's doing ok with Bleach he knows what he's doing he did create it from the ground up after all [03:21] <Xilinoc> Ichigo isn't an Arrancar or a Hollow. [03:21] <Xilinoc> Or a Bount. [03:21] <Xilinoc> Or a Zanpakuto Spirit. [03:21] <Xilinoc> Or a Reigai. [03:21] <CiFeR215> or togabito [03:21] <Xilinoc> Or a Toju. [03:21] <Skarrj> Well arguable. [03:21] <Skarrj> Bount are anime only. [03:21] <Skarrj> If Kubo had thought them up first... [03:21] <Skarrj> lol [03:21] <CiFeR215> oh wait [03:21] <CiFeR215> lol [03:22] <Skarrj> Zanpakuto Spirit would've been impossible and isnt one of the major races, if you even consider it one. [03:22] <Xilinoc> Arrancar, Hollows, Zanpakuto spirits a ren't. [03:22] <CiFeR215> not the point he clearly hasn't been every race [03:22] <CiFeR215> just visored [03:22] <CiFeR215> shinigami [03:22] <CiFeR215> human [03:22] <CiFeR215> fullbringer [03:22] <Skarrj> He has been Vaizard &amp; Fullbringer. [03:22] <Skarrj> Those are both hollow incarnations in other forms. [03:22] <Skarrj> He has undergone hollowfication. [03:23] <CiFeR215> but he's still human [03:23] <CiFeR215> with said powers [03:23] <Xilinoc> Fullbringer isn't a Hollow incarnation. [03:24] <Skarrj> It uses the reishi of a hollow. [03:24] <Skarrj> And is hollow in origin. [03:24] <Xilinoc> It's a person who's mother got attacked by a hollow, and who gained abilities similar to said hollow. [03:24] <CiFeR215> Captain Sal-san... [03:24] <CiFeR215> what do you think? [03:24] <Xilinoc> I stress the similar part. [03:24] <Skarrj> That is wroung. [03:24] <Skarrj> The powers arent similar to the hollow. [03:24] <CiFeR215> no it's not [03:24] <Skarrj> The powers are unique to the user. [03:24] <CiFeR215> .... [03:25] <Skarrj> Yes? [03:25] <CiFeR215> wait now im not sure [03:26] <CiFeR215> wtf [03:26] <CiFeR215> making me second guess myself [03:26] <CiFeR215> lol [03:26] <Skarrj> Ichigo's powers resembled his Shinigami powers and were infact his shinigami powers. [03:26] <Xilinoc> ... [03:26] <Skarrj> They didn't resemble the powers of the hollow that injured one of his parents. [03:27] <CiFeR215> hhmmmm [03:28] <Salubri> what [03:28] <CiFeR215> oh good [03:29] <Skarrj> Sal. [03:29] <Skarrj> Baby. [03:29] <Skarrj> D: [03:29] <Skarrj> Who is Vanessa? [03:29] <Skarrj> And why was she calling you at 6:30? [03:30] <CiFeR215> hey Xi am i missing something here [03:30] <Xilinoc> I am too. [03:31] <Xilinoc> Either that or Skarrj is "trolling". [03:31] <Skarrj> I am not. [03:31] <Xilinoc> I'm betting on the latter. [03:31] <Skarrj> Oh [03:31] <Skarrj> That was me trolling. [03:31] <Skarrj> lol [03:31] <Skarrj> But in my defense... [03:32] <Skarrj> In the near 40 minutes I've been here... [03:32] <Skarrj> No one but me has mentioned anything related to updating. [03:32] <Xilinoc> Updating what? [03:32] <Skarrj> The wiki. [03:32] <CiFeR215> dude you just missed a long ass discussion about that [03:32] <CiFeR215> that i lost lol [03:33] <Skarrj> Edit Count Requirement - Any user entering chat will be required to have a mainspace edit count of ten edits. This is because Bleach Wiki is a content focused encyclopedia style wiki. The focus of the wiki is to build information, not to chat. Users who use the chat should be editing in addition to chatting. [03:33] <Xilinoc> I'm working on the grammar corner right now. [03:33] <Xilinoc> That's my thing, man. [03:33] <Skarrj> Someone needs to update any and every article on the quincy. [03:33] <CiFeR215> my idea got shot down so i'm looking for a new project to work on [03:33] <Xilinoc> With what? [03:33] <Skarrj> With what? [03:34] <Skarrj> They havent been updated to include the new information of the final arc. [03:34] <Skarrj> Neither has the human page. [03:34] <Skarrj> The Yourself is a human in origin ability. [03:34] <Xilinoc> Someone will get around to it [03:34] <Salubri> i love when people come here and dont know what their talking about [03:34] <CiFeR215> yep [03:34] <Skarrj> I don't know what I'm talking about? [03:35] <Salubri> nope but considering you think you do be specific and tell us [03:35] <Skarrj> Alright. [03:35] <Skarrj> Uno Momento. [03:35] <CiFeR215> oh boy Sal [03:35] <Xilinoc> Pfft, Sal. [03:36] <Xilinoc> You sure know how to insult someone. [03:36] <Xilinoc> I find it amusing. [03:36] <CiFeR215> actually so do i [03:36] <CiFeR215> when it's not me lol [03:36] <Skarrj> LOL No. [03:36] <Skarrj> Someone updated the pages recently. [03:36] <Salubri> humm [03:36] <Salubri> imagine that [03:36] <Skarrj> They hadnt been updated for MONTHS. [03:36] <Salubri> and yet [03:36] <CiFeR215> someone got around to it [03:36] <Skarrj> Around to it. [03:37] <Skarrj> Most wiki are updating their information right away. [03:37] <Xilinoc> Come back on wednsday, watch the edits fly. [03:37] <Skarrj> I came here when one of the chapters came out hoping to edit. [03:38] <CiFeR215> good point Xi [03:38] <Skarrj> Hardly anyone was editing. [03:38] <Skarrj> Like you said, people get around to it. [03:38] <CiFeR215> they are pretty quick when a new chapter is out [03:38] <Salubri> you were saying [03:38] <Salubri> what again? [03:38] <Skarrj> Also. [03:38] <CiFeR215> imo [03:38] <Skarrj> The human page really wasnt updated [03:39] <Skarrj> The quincy articles were. [03:39] <Salubri> do you know why can anyone fathom a guess on the human pages? [03:39] <Skarrj> What? [03:39] <Skarrj> O.o [03:39] <CiFeR215> nothing to edit yet? [03:40] <Salubri> that would be it [03:40] <CiFeR215> thought as much [03:40] <Salubri> whats there to edit [03:40] <Skarrj> The quincy section has only 3 people listed under it. [03:40] <Salubri> probably cause its an example [03:40] <Salubri> and not for a complete character listing [03:41] <Skarrj> That is the only human sub-type that isnt a complete listing. [03:41] <Skarrj> My mistake. [03:42] <Salubri> that page will be redone as soon as what to do with it is determined [03:42] <CiFeR215> Sal wins [03:42] <Skarrj> Well I have one question for you... [03:42] <Skarrj> Would you say the chat is a positive? [03:42] <Skarrj> Or are there any negatives that come along with it? [03:43] <Skarrj> Like do you have a problem with people discussing edits here instead of primarily on the talk pages? [03:43] <Salubri> its not advanced enough but whatever else its fine by me [03:43] <Skarrj> Ok. [03:44] <Skarrj> I'm trying to get the other wikis I edit on to add 'em. [03:44] <Skarrj> And Bleach Wiki is a prime example of a major wiki with one. [03:44] <Skarrj> So I was just wondering how it was going here. [03:44] <Skarrj> Well... An active one. [03:44] <Skarrj> Most wikis, major or not, don't have anyone on theirs. [03:44] <CiFeR215> hey Xi ur pretty silent there working on a plan of ur own? [03:45] <CiFeR215> Ravens won guys [03:45] <Xilinoc> Yes. [03:46] <Xilinoc> I need a counter-plan in case thing go south. [03:46] <CiFeR215> good idea can never be to careful [03:46] <CiFeR215> heheh [03:47] <Xilinoc> Especially when the plan which might need to be countered is Sal. [03:47] <Xilinoc> Sal's [03:48] <Salubri> You actually think you can counter my plan [03:48] <Salubri> id like to see you try [03:48] <CiFeR215> God, Sun and Sal are like captains [03:48] <CiFeR215> heheh [03:48] <Salubri> especially considering you dont know the details [03:49] <CiFeR215> challenge [03:49] <Salubri> captains of what [03:49] <CiFeR215> the wiki [03:49] <Xilinoc> Sal, it's easy. [03:49] <Xilinoc> All I have to do is plan for everything. [03:49] <CiFeR215> ok Aizen [03:49] <Salubri> not really godisme and SunXia are committee members [03:49] <CiFeR215> i'm just going by edits [03:50] <Xilinoc> Well, Yyp is like Yamaji in that case. [03:50] <Xilinoc> 300 years old and 300,000 plus edits. [03:51] <CiFeR215> heheh [03:51] <Xilinoc> 3000 [03:51] <CiFeR215> ok Sal [03:51] <CiFeR215> you're Shunsui [03:52] <CiFeR215> and hey you still didn't tell me your pick ;) [03:54] <Salubri> yea i didnt' [03:54] <Xilinoc> Cifer [03:54] <Xilinoc> I don't think he intends to [03:54] <Xilinoc> Just htrowing that out there [03:54] <Xilinoc> throwing [03:55] <CiFeR215> yea i know [03:55] <CiFeR215> my attempt at humor [03:56] <CiFeR215> how can i change my username now that Ulquiorra is dead to me [03:56] <CiFeR215> ? [03:58] <Salubri> should of did that when Cifer actually died, he turned to dust i dont think you can get deader then that [03:59] <CiFeR215> "somebody please help me i have a flat tire!" [04:00] <CiFeR215> ok than tonight you've witnessed the birth of CifGiku [04:00] <CiFeR215> heheh [04:01] <CiFeR215> wow was expecting a big response from that lol [04:03] <Salubri> You should change your name, Statefarm neighbor [04:04] <CiFeR215> don't know how [04:04] <CiFeR215> too lazy [04:05] <Salubri> if you actually wanna change your user name you have to send a request to the central wiki [04:05] <Salubri> they'll change it no problem [04:05] <Godismebot> Hi Lemursrule, welcome to the Bleach Wiki Chat! Please remember to follow our Bleach Wiki:Chat Policy when you are here. Also note that you need ten productive edits to articles to be in here otherwise you will be asked to leave. [04:05] <CiFeR215> thanks [04:05] <CiFeR215> hey Lemurs [04:05] <Lemursrule> so how does it feel god [04:05] <Kamikaze839> I just realized I still had this window open [04:05] <Salubri> he aint here [04:05] <CiFeR215> Ravens won man [04:05] <Lemursrule> I know [04:06] <Lemursrule> I want to rub it in his face [04:06] <Salubri> to be fair they only barely won lemur [04:06] <CiFeR215> will prolly send a request for new name now [04:06] <CiFeR215> bye bye ulq [04:07] <Lemursrule> yes [04:07] <Lemursrule> but it still will burn him [04:07] <CiFeR215> decent game too [04:07] <Lemursrule> That was one of the best games Ive seen in awhile [04:07] <Xilinoc> Oh hi Lemurs [04:07] <Lemursrule> what [04:07] <Lemursrule> a [04:07] <Lemursrule> game [04:08] <Xilinoc> So Lemurs, how about those Kubos. [04:08] <Kamikaze839> Beyonce had to drain the power [04:08] <Lemursrule> lol [04:08] <CiFeR215> Ichigo for quarterback [04:08] <Lemursrule> the Kubos were amazing [04:08] <CiFeR215> i know lol [04:08] <Xilinoc> You kidding? [04:08] <Lemursrule> who actually recoded [04:08] <Xilinoc> Kenpachi for quarterback. [04:09] <CiFeR215> that was a first right? [04:09] <CiFeR215> oh better yet [04:09] <Xilinoc> Just take off his eyepatch and he'll charge through everyone. [04:09] <CiFeR215> tushe Xi [04:09] <Xilinoc> And Aizen for team captain. [04:09] <CiFeR215> He wins before the coin toss [04:09] <Xilinoc> Urahara for wide receiver. [04:10] <Salubri> no aizen wouldnt be team captain he would create illusions of a team that only he is on [04:10] <CiFeR215> cause he planned for every play [04:10] <Lemursrule> hahaa [04:10] <Xilinoc> Exactly. [04:10] <Lemursrule> nice on sal [04:10] <Lemursrule> one [04:10] <Xilinoc> He is the team.