Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-35233810-20180412205933/@comment-35301307-20180519151601

Ryusei-6 wrote: Wri-El wrote: Ryusei-6 wrote: Guys I saw a video on youtube in which the person put together a new order for the espadas but i didnt agree with it here is my order for them:

1. Stark all the way. this is because he never really went all out on Captain Shinsui. for the mere fact Aizen was depending on him i think this is a no brainer

2. Baraggan King of no one. this to me could have gone either way with number one. his power is so OP and i think he should have displayed more of it. there was a lot of plot shielding that went into his defeat. tho it made sense, how is was done was not so good.

3. Ulquiorra cold silent type. well to me he is the best but his power dont come close to ones above him. he showed great skill against ichigo killing him twice. that second form tho really takes the cake.

4. Nnoitra the real mad man. the way he fought against kenny really showed he is above Harribel. especially with the way she fought against Tourshiro. Nnoitra would have made quick work of him since Tourshiro also struggle against Luppi.

5. Grimmjow the beast. by looking at the way he took out Luppi there is not doubt that grimmjow would have been a beast on that battle if he was allowed to go to the world of the living.

6. Harribel Beauty with an attitude. with her poor showing against Tourshiro who beat her, tho he struggled at the start, if she was the real 3rd espada, it should have been a quick victory seeing how he struggled to beat Luppi the former 6th espada. i will admit tho, both cancel each other out, but she had more power so she should have come out on top. this my real disappointment with the espadas.

7. Yammy the angry man. well for the mere fact it took 2 captain class soul reapers to bring him down this puts him way above everyone below him.

8. Szayelaporro the mad scientist. he doesnt change. his powers were real impressive. his own ego was his undoing.

9. Aaroniero the greedy bastard. he doesnt change. his arrogance was his undoing. losing to rukia like that.....sigh.

10. Zommari the desperate fool. while there is no shame in losing to Byakuya. however, the way he lost was pathetic. every other espada went down fighting to the end. he well, he went down begging for mercy. like really. so pathetic

So that is my ranking of the Espadas. what are you guys ranking and why. To be entirely honest the ranking made little sense, mainly because there too many inconsistencies.

Ulquiorra was definitely more powerful than Yammy. I mean Yammy number 0 made no sense. If the 0 Espada was the most powerful Eapada then the ranking should have been this...

Espada 0: Starrk Espada 1: Barragan Espada 2: Harribel Espada 3: Ulquiorra Espada 4: Nnoitra Espada 5: Grimmjow Espada 6: Yammy Espada 7: Szayelaporro Espada 8: Aaroniero Espada 9: Zommari

Also Hitsugaya initially said that Aizen would only make his move after he had ten Vasto Lorde Arrancars which didn't happened. And he also said that a Vasto Lorde (not even an Arrancar) was more powerful than even a Captain class Shinigami. So it would make sense that any Vasto Lorde Arrancar would've needed several captains working together to defeat just one Vasto Lorde Arrancar. But that's not what we saw.

It was like everything was so rushed that it stopped making sense halfway through.

Also not sure if this is the best place to discuss these things. After all the administrator has shown the clear inability to accept other people's opinions. If it wasn't plainly said or shown in the Anime and the Manga then she definitely can't see pass it. If not for your more recent questions this page would be more dead than the Bleach Manga.

Firstly, the line-up was about battle experience so that is why i placed the espadas in that order base off how they did in their battles. Secondly, as shown in the anime and manga espada 1 was already arrancar while espads 2-4 were vesto lordes ( I still say espada 5 was one too but that my opinion). Therefore any other epanda bellow thos ranks would have to take just a single captain to take them down as shown in the anime. Also in the anime, it took multiple captains/personnel to take down 1-4. Thirdly, you are right man the anime and manga was being rushed to the concluding battle between Ichigo and Aizen. To be honest, the only person to get any sort of character development was Toshiro during that battle; as in the end he was seen training to make his zanpakuto stronger(name any that I am missing). Finally, Salubri is right man all opinions matter whether you agree or disagree with them. Everything is subjective so try to be respectful and respect others' opinions and let it end there. Like I said in my previous comments, this is just good fun with fellow fans of the series so let try to have fun.

Maybe we shouldnt use characters like Ulquiorra and Grimmjow in strongest form for top?

1.After all Ulquiorra debatable with his second form, his reiatsu lvl is unknown fought with hollow ichigo v2 who is truly stronger than all espada

2.Grimmjow in 1000 blood war is much stronger ,faster and has reiatsu more higher than he had and show partial release. And we didnt know how powerfull he is and numbers became old. And bluth more tough than hiero.

And all character who fought with Ichigo became stronger in next arc.

As for class, said that zero squad >gotei 13, but Zaraki Kenpachi without doubt kill all except Ichibey. For now class vesto lord is nothing compared for captains except weakest.

I mean you saw, how strong became Rukia and Renji who won against quincy who beat Rose and Kensei, Rose with shikai counter wolves Starrk in release before they explode. So leutenants became as one of the most powerful captain class

And as said Aizen battle between shinigami is battle between reiatsu, with weaker reiatsu you couldnt harm stronger character.