Forum:Coyote Starrk and Lilynette Gingerback

Here you can discuss the 1st Espada, Coyote Starrk, and his other part, Lilynette Gingerback. Existing topics are listed below, but feel free to add new ones if what you want to discuss is not covered here already. Do not add create new forums about Starrk and/or Lilynette, as they will be deleted and their content moved to the appropriate forums.Twocents 23:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Existing Topics
All of these topics are open and available for discussion. Twocents 23:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Starrk's Name
Wow, that Coyote part really screwed up Starrk's coolness.

It doesnt fits Starrk's Personality to me. But the name is alright Its made to sound like a gunslinger wild wild western name obviously.Heruga59 02:18, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Actualy, it fits in my opinion. Coyotes and wolves are both canines, and Coyote's live out in the west where the gunslingers that Starrk is based originated from. Besides when you think about what his full name means, it can mean grim coyote or cool coyote.--Moe1216 21:59, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Or Wile E Coyote. TomServo101 22:22, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what the writer's opinion of the name 'Coyote' is but if I had to hazard a guess he wasn't thinking of the cartoon coyote. More likely he was probably drawing on the Native American idea of a trickster god similar to Loki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_(mythology)

Starrk could be said to share some qualities with Coyote.

Great Cthulhu 02:43, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

He is referenced to Gunslingers by the guns and Wolves by the spanish name of his resureccion Los Lobos. The Coyote in Amerindian mythology is quite similar to the Fox in Japanese mythology. In this case, because he is a clever, morphing but tricky opponent. …or is it because at the beginning he wanted to use the fox concept, but as it is already used in the Naruto series, he changed it to coyote... Baronofash 05:11, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Starrk, Lily and the Wolves
As we all know, Arrancar of Espada level are all Menos. As we all know, Menos are several hollow as one. Now, I have an idea that Starrk might have had a split personality before Shinigamification. Being split between the dominant spirits of Starrk, and Lily. As a Arrancar, this split personality became their unique method of ressureccion, due to the fact that instead of a single hollow dominating control of the Menos, there were two. Now that we've seen his wolves, perhaps those are the rest of the spirits that comprise them? I know it sounds far-fetched, but perhaps the split personality explains the two. One eye 04:56, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Starrk's Immense Spiritual Pressure
In the recent chapter, Starrk remembers his life before. He says that those around him lost their souls and died just by being around him. Could this be attributed to his immense power? Since he (and Lilynette) is (are) the Primera Espada, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to assume that he was strong long before he (they) became an Arrancar since we know that Barragan's power was great enough that he was called the King of Hueco Mundo. --Shinitenshi 16:14, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

It could just mean that his very presence "sucked up" their souls. Hollows suck up spirit particles just by standing around. So do quincy and even Shinigami to a lesser extent but I believe the ambient sucking up is the greats for hollows. So that's what could have happened when Starrk said that just by "being around us our friends lost their souls". I.e. he killed them just by being with them. However, this is all speculation so for now I think we just have to leave it as "we don't have a clue what he means exactly". Tinni 16:38, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that this also means he split himself into two beings, to lower his spiritual power. This way, he wouldn't kill weaker Hollows so fast. Lilynette might just be immune to his power... considering that she IS a part of him. Abedeus 09:59, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

The masks in the flashback were broken, that suggests combat to me. ZeroSD 12:53, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Starrks aspect of death is loneliness and since hollows fight all the time it could just mean that whatever pack he was in had their numbers reduced that eventually all of them died leaving him all alone and to save himself from that he split forms.--SalmanH 20:00, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Closed Topics
These are old topics on Coyote Starrk and/or Lilynette Gingerback, and barring new information, they do not need to be added to. Twocents 23:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

If Starrk dies, do you think Lilynette will too?
While in his Ressureccion, I mean. I figure yes, but I suppose there could be alternatives. Twocents 22:06, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

I would tend to agree with you on that. If he died even though sealed they are separate, it seems as though she would die too as they are apart of each other. By their own interaction is seen that they are connected to each other and and when they do the ressureccion that becomes all the more obvious. Not to say it will be at the same time but probably as long as shortly after. Even still she wouldn't be able to survive on her own, as she is considerably weak compared to other arrancar and without him she can't release it would seem, he has the majority of the power obviously.Salubri 22:36, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Starrk's Gonna Die
This is simply to inform people that this discussion occurred. There is no need to continue it. Twocents 23:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)