User talk:Loxegan

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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! (This is an automated message generated after your first edit here.) Yyp (talk) 14:57, April 24, 2019 (UTC)

RE: About the CFYOW discussion
Since you are new here I will respond this once. Please understand I have had this discussion on repeat for years since the series ended.


 * I am sorry if you misunderstood what I was trying to say, I do not consider this wiki arrogant

Well you considered our views and decisions to be such thus this is what it came across as.


 * I was specifically referring to the case of the CFYOW novel specifically seems to be being unjustly attacked with a fair amount of bias

You are new here so I can see why you would feel so but allow me to provide a history lesson. CFYOW is far from the only novel ever released by authors that are not Kubo. You can find a list here. The Novels are not released in English and often their "revelations" completely break continuity without fixing it or resolving contradictory things. So it was decided by the team in 2012 that (you can see it hasn't been altered in that time) our Canon Policy would be to treat the Novels as non-Canon. And this has been our policy since then.

When people, starving after the ending of the Manga and wanting more, started whining about these recent Novels I opened a discussion on the matter. The conclusion and decision of the team was to maybe have, in the future, Tabs that have information for the Novels to have that information. Often referencing is a hindrance but that was the agreement that we would discuss it but only after the Novel articles were filled in to our standards.

So, as you see, the Novel is being treated the same as any other ever was. In fact, we are considering doing different things in the future but only after these articles were completed and no longer stubs. However, people were not interested in doing any of the work in that regard, just interested in having the info they liked added to the Canon Manga articles. The wiki is a voluntary thing and I certainly have no interest in the Novels and neither to much of the team so I'm not going to do the work of the people complaining that they want things added in without doing the work themselves.

You said that our Wiki is one of the best and yet we hav never had the Novels on our site. For example, this article has remained blank for 15 years, and not one person complained about it. That's the first novel that was ever released, wasn't written by Kubo, was written by Makoto Matsubara. Yet, now when another Novel is ignored by our team, its suddenly this awful, arrogant place? Or we are suddenly biased? Nothing sudden about it. We are merely treating this Novel the same as any other. Why should one get preference? Because the Manga's over?

There is a middle ground. Those articles are filled out and sourced/referenced and then we can add the info elsewhere. That was the decision made at the time and what we still uphold. I am literally almost the only team member that continually replies to these discussions, because as far as they are concerned, the decision was made 7 years ago and then almost 2 years ago again. Only recently has Timjer tried to contribute to the articles in question which we are grateful for.

So yeah, I am not having this same discussion over and over often because they get heated when people do not want to accept our decision. Also the point I made about the Brave Souls game is that EVEN within that game the Novels are included in the NON-canon side stories and events and not in the Canon side as the game has that separation. Hope this helps.