User talk:Yyp

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Templates and Articles
Ok I spent most of the day updating or making templates unique to the sight or rather specifically for the sight. In light of that there are some in general at the moment that a question a need to keep. Template:Flickr4, Template:Flickr5, Template:Quote, Template:Lorem ipsum and Template:Spoiler. On that note what has either been added and updated include: Template:Block-request, Template:Discussion Resolved, Template:SectionUC, Template:Sectionexpand, Template:Talkheader, Template:Unsigned, Template:Uw-vandalism1. All these should be looked at and used quite alot now. We also need to be promoting the use of the Bleach Wiki:Sandbox for users. I also wanted to put forth the concept for a new Image Gallery and Bleach Wiki:User Groups.--Salubri (Talk)  01:58, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Also if I created a Bleach specific answers site would you be cool with that. --Salubri (Talk)  02:37, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Bleach Answers
Check it out and let me know what you think. []. Salubri (Talk)  23:30, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

user restrcition
that's great thank you very much for a push in the right direction it's much appreciated. Wolfwood (Shoot)  09:53, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

p.s. you do an awesome job here. :)

How about creating new templates where we can vote for an Issues?
Hey Yyp, I already post one on Salubri's talk page. Anyway, first I want to say this again honestly:- what you guys admin has done here was awesome I mean the info in here are very detail. That is the reason I join the wiki. And I wanna say Salubri's recent blog about http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Salubri/Outsider_Looking_In/Level_of_Detail. is great. So I was hoping in our recent skirmish about Hollow Ichigo (between me & Salubri) in the discussion page other than that how about you guys creates a template where user can raise issue and other users will be able to vote and give comment/opinion/discussion like the one Salubri posted on the blogs above? I think it will helps user who wanted to contributes to the wiki but when they tries to edit because they did not read this wiki's policy are found in the wrong end just like when I first started. The result of the issues being voted whether it be deemed as new info, then can be added to the existing info thats already slated in the wiki. I mean thats the only way in my part as a new user of this wiki can contribute to the wiki's progress. What do you think? Soulreaper1234 10:09, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Soifon
We are really gonna need a pic for Soifons banaki and a gif for her attack. Hopefully we have someone skilled in both seeing as Tinni is out till the 26. --Salubri (Talk)  15:39, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Icons
The icons are for partly to designate what level of protection a page has if it is in fact protected. We also have icons for the various groups and one special one for articles that have been featured. They all if clinked link to the respective pages just a little something to add on to the pages. Nothing big. Salubri (Talk)  23:30, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Asking permission?
Hi Yyp, I am starting a wikia about bleach blog spot, so I am asking permission from you guys if I could ask any user in here join the wiki, and it is all different from this one check this out http://bleachblogspot.wikia.com/wiki/Bleach_Blog_Spot_Wiki - hope you guys does not mind. Soulreaper1234 12:28, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Starrk
Hey Yyp,

I posted 3 images from the latest episodes of the Bleach anime on the Starrk Talk page to suggest a picture chage for Starrk's article. The discussion was closed when I opened it today and before it got closed, I didn't get much of a response. So seeing as your an administrator, I'll post the images here so I can hopefully get a proper response from you. These 3 images are from episode 276 of the anime. I'll leave the decision making to you on whether you think we should use one of these images or not for Starrk's article picture. Leave a message on my talk page so that I'll receive your opinion. Shiro Spiker II 09:16, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Isshin's Zanpakutou
Some people are angry at me for using "scathing ~" :( because, though it seems to be a valid meaning of the graph, they feel it's still too far from the lit. meaning of "sharp(ened), pointed" (admittedly, as I noted above, it was a tough one for me, too). I usually try to choose an English trans. that can, as best as trans. itself allows, encompass all the possible interpretations of a Japanese word (esp. since Kubo doesn't seem to choose any single meaning as the sole one he intends), but it's not easy, and sometimes not possible.

The best alternative I could think of--which combines both the lit. and figurative usages--was "trenchant moon." It's a bit less common a word, but trenchant *does* mean "vehement" or "caustic, cutting, scathing," but also lit. meant "cutting" (Old French trenchant, present participle of trenchier "cut"). I don't know how much some of the objectors would embrace it, but I think it may be the best, now that I've had additional time to scan for such an apt-for-all-senses word (esp. with such a seemingly-rare character as the one Kubo used for en).

So what do you guys think? Sorry to turn around on you, but I always want the best I can offer, and was concerned about the objections "scathing" raised. Luckily, that's what edits are for :). Adam Restling 09:47, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Harribel, Byakuya
I have done a lot of thing to these pages, but they disappeared then.Why?

Blogs
Is there something going on with the blogs? I cannot comment on any of them--God (Pray)  22:31, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. It seems to be good now, thats strange though--God (Pray)  23:32, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rollback request
Hi. I posted a rollback request back in March (Bleach Wiki:Requests for Rollback) and didn't receive any sort of reply. I don't like nagging cause I know how busy you guys are, but maybe you can just tell me yay or nay (And if nay, why not). WD  Talk to me  13:15, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Bleach Answers
But I saw someone who asked why the Template of the current episode isn't updated. Do you mean to tell me that you don't allow that at all? So tell everyone, not just me. Even if the one asking about pages if "unregistered"!--Gran Danku 15:49, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Quincy Final Form Move
A proposed move by Mohrpheus and Godisme:


 * "Hello, I was just wondering whether or not you could move the Quincy Final Form page to Quincy: Letzt Stil, since that is the most accurate translation from the source material, as confirmed by Adam on its talk page. The naming issue was resolved a while ago, but I suppose this just fell through the cracks. Mohrpheus 03:28, July 4, 2010 (UTC)"


 * "If we were to move it, why not move it to Quincy Last Stage as that is what Letzt Stil means. --<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  03:34, July 4, 2010 (UTC)"

What do you think? <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  03:43, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry
Hey sorry about that Godisme Userpage thing..I got excited and in the heat of the moment forgot completely why the Talk page existed. <font color="dark grey" face="Tallys">BlazeUchiha <font color="red" face="Eurostile">(Talk)  15:02, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Pics and Gifs
There seems to be a large load of unnecessary pics on the site. Normally I wouldn't care to much about what users put on their own page but there is an influx of users just uploading pics to place them on their page. Now in the effort to categorize the images and gifs on the site i have started to delete alot of the unused or useless ones and while doing so i have seen a few people add pics for the specific purpose of clogging their page with them and while some are from the series they are not used in any of the articles. Then those same people who arent really active leave and disappear for months if not years and we are left with useless forgotten images. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  02:36, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Don Kanonji
I m trying to do a grammar check on Don Kanonji's page but I need to know the correct form of his name. Some parts has it listed as Don Kanonji while later in the article it is written as Don Kan'onji. Which is correct?--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  05:16, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Books option for the menu
Hey, ever since that user brought up the post about the databooks in Forum:Adding_Bleach_Novel_and_Art_Book_Section I have been thinking about how hard it is to find the books pages and the music pages for that matter. I thought we had a link to the music thing but that seems to have been removed. So I was wondering if it would be a good idea to put in "Books" and "Music" buttons on the side bar menu just below Movies and Video Games. Actually, if space is an issue, we could probably just have a "Other Media" menu option that expands into "Books", "Music", "Movies", "Video Games" etc. What do you think? Tinni  (Talk)  07:42, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Recreation of Sections that have been deleted
Why did you recreate a section that I deleted? It's my right to delete a section that I don't want.--Gran Danku 22:20, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Page moves
Could you check out the talk pages of Talk:Quincy Final Form and Talk:List of Bleach Books regarding moving them to a new name. Thanks. The Shadow Dragon 18:53, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

BIG BLEACH NEWS
check out my blog for more info http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Lemursrule/New_Bleach_Film_Overseen_by_Kubo --Lemursrule 04:57, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Image
Ok after watching the anime im concerned with some of the pics. Nothing is wrong with them really but we are missing some obvious mask shots. I think a better pic illustrating Hachi's power can be put up as the current one is before he uses his power while the manga one we had was from after he used the power. There was also big points that we didn't get pics of yet.<font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  14:31, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Lisa's is fine I seriously doubt there will be good shots from the anime that actual match the quality of the manga pics. I was greatly disappointed when i saw the pic of shinji confronting aizen and was sure that when i watched the episode i would find a mistake pic had been taken and the right one was overlooked. Boy was i wrong. In any case i asked tinni if she could get together some gifs namely the hachi power, rose power and hiyori's cero attack. Hopefully that will fix the hachi issue as the current pics are definitely off from the manga's depiction but we'll work it out. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  15:30, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Profile Pics discussions
So are we gonna be doing the discussions on profile pics on the image gallery talk page seeing as it has archive for such things and the new guidelines include that. As of late i haven't seen that change and a continual pointless crowding of the article talk pages with walls of back and forth that never seem to end. When more important article conversation can be held.<font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  16:20, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Spoiler Question
Excuse me, but who's in charge here? The head admin, I mean. Is it OK if I put a spoiler on my page, but put a spoiler warning before it? I was giving my reasons on who the Top 3 strongest captains were and one reason was because one of the captains killed a strong character? Is that OK? If it isn't, I apologize, I didn't know. -Bluestripe the Wild

Alright, thanks. Do you think we should make character userbozes? For instance, "This User is a fan of Ichigo Kurosaki." -Bluestripe the Wild

What do you call Junk Trivia?
Just what exactly do you can call Junk Trivia? I would like to know, since appearently all I'm doing is creating it on here. Willotaku :3 04:35, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, OK then. -Bluestripe the Wild

How do I join a Group?
For things like Grammer Corner and relate pages, do I simply just click edit and insert my username or signature to join up? Willotaku :3 01:04, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Vizard Images
Sorry, I forgot about the fair use and the rationale. I actually am pretty paranoid about adding them ASAP, and you can see it in every picture I've uploaded so far, but last night I freaked out with having to follow all the new procedures and completely forgot about the old ones, and then I had to go to sleep. I'll add them now. I'm glad the pics I found are useful I still have to find some for Ichigo's training but I'm on it. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  01:20, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Images
Hi, recently I've been having problems when trying to upload new versions of old pictures because the system tells me "The file is corrupt or it has the wrong extension". It's not happening all the time, but I've had this problem with two pictures already and I have no clue of what is causing it. I even tried to take the same shot multiple times with different file names and nothing. I know the extension is the right one, I always make sure they're .jpg, and the files are working fine in my PC. I'm trying to replace File:Vizards pin Hollow Ichigo to ground.png and File:Hiyori Mask Cracks.png with higher quality versions but I keep getting the same problem I already mentioned, and Tinni told me to ask you about it. Thanks Lia Schiffer   (Talk)  08:27, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't even noticed they were .png. I'll try uploading them in .png then. About the archiving, is it absolutely necessary or was it just a suggestion? I mean, I know I'll have to do it at some point, but I don't really feel like I need it yet. Thanks for the help Lia Schiffer   (Talk)  08:53, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Redesignation of the List of Hollows
Hey. I'd like your input and opinion on a discussion I'm trying to start in the List of Hollows discussion page regarding redesignation of the list. WD  Talk to me  22:34, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Partial protection
Can I get some sort of protection on Zangetsu (spirit) page please? It seems that new users who do not read the talk pages continue to add manga information and other junk on Zangetsu's page and so I think its best to just protect it somehow. Maybe something similar to the Zanpakuto page. Thanks. Tinni  (Talk)  06:43, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Visored vs. Vizard
So, uh, since you completely ignored my last argument from April 24th and simply stamped on "resolved," I figured I'd post the exact same message again. I hope you'll actually respond this time.

You left a message regarding my reopening of a topic for discussion, but that was because literally nothing was discussed. Not only did I provide evidence that the Japanese media clearly only uses "Visored" as a romanization, but aside from that the person who closed the discussion only proved that there was one point where the Viz translation used 'Vizard' despite later issues correcting this. What about Viz's choice to romanize "Yasutora Sado" as "Chad Yasutora"? They corrected that, and literally this is the exact same thing. It's not an open and shut case, and it's definitely worthy of discussion.-Mr. Toto (talk) 04:51, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

spoilers question
I have new information regarding. I'm not going to go into specifics. I'm still unclear about one thing in the spoiler policy. Should I wait to post this information after the english scan for Bleach 414 is released? Thank you. Saboor42390 (talk) 15:18, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Gin's Page
OK until Adam comes back with a translation on Gin I would keep his page locked as Im confused at what to do with his zanpakuto explanation. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  01:51, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

So lets figure this out from the JU-Ni translations I can gather that he pretty much said what we think he said probably better then mangastream but the way JU-NI has means we have something to consider when Gin says he lied do we take that as everything he said about the bankai to be a lie or that they are fact but thats not what the important thing is its the poison dust. I would go with that seeing as this is the second time he has said something along these lines when talking to Ichigo first he talks about the length and then admits thats a lie and then says its about the speed of the expanding and contracting. So we can pretty much state that he was accurate in all things but he has been misdirecting and omitting the abilities of his bankai. First it was the length then the speed and not its about poison. If we agree on this then its just a matter of placement which can either be in the main special ability paragraph or on its own. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  21:12, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

The specifics are what they are im not concerned with them at the moment as the deletion of that would make for a pretty crappy description, I am under the impression that he commonly deals in lies of omission and why he never gets into the specifics particularly he did mention length and speed they were just further elaborated from what he said. The point we are in agreement on is that the actual point is the poison. Ill figure out how to incorporate it. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  21:48, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Pages
Is chapter 414 going to be in the july or August votes. Im just wondering considering that since it was delayed i doubt we will get the Ju-Ni quotes or the pictures put up on the voting pages before July ends and this chapter was so full of important quotes and pictures that i want to know where if it will face a fair vote? thanks for any info. GinIchimaru (talk) 01:54, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Protection
Hey, the other night when we were having trouble with people posting spoilers, Arrancar109 protected Aizen, Gin, Isshin and Ichigo. Can you unlock all those except for Gin obviously--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  18:16, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

OK thanks!--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  18:29, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Coloration Policy
Well recently there was a ridiculous and unnecessary argument on Rangiku's talk page about the coloration of her hair. Some thought it read and Tinni pointed out in the Anime its golden blond. The problem stemming from the fact that this is a mess up on our part in the lack of a clearly distinctive policy on this. On account I pointed out naming her a golden blond is inaccurate as all the pics we have of her are anything but that color. Tinni pointed out the policy says manga before anime. She was right up until I very a obscure point in the manual of style that basically states what I had thought. Manga trumps anime in everything except anime only content and coloration. Seeing manga is 99% black and white and rarely does Kubo do anything in color as well as the fact that 99% of are coloration on the site comes from the anime and not the manga. Hence why this point was placed. What I would suggest is that this point be clarified and made know. We can simply list the anime colors and they would correspond with the anime pics and not add to confusion for the small amount of articles that have coloration differences between the manga and anime. One Issue that we would need to directly address is the coloration of Orihimes eyes which seems to change but I believe its either brown or grey buts that up in the air. The other contention is some peoples thoughts on Gin's hair in the manga they feel its silver and the anime its more purplish. I for one have never seen his hair as anything more then silver in the anime and anime shading does weird things especially at different angles. We have come across multiple times when a persons hair may look purple but it is actually black and was listed as such. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  12:58, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ok well then you two will have to deal with that im not remotely for calling Rangiku a blond the page would be multiply changed for people stating that doesn't make sense to call her blond and id agree with that. The obscure color is so far removed from the color we commonly associate her with and it has been consistent sense her first appearance. You will also have to come with a bases for how manga trumps anime on color when it doesn't deal in color. If anything i would use the anime color and list the manga color in trivia because manga shouldnt determine color as thats not its media it uses. It totally undermines using the anime as the primary source for color entirely. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  22:07, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Rudeness
Perhaps you are right, and I agree that the language I used wasn't a good idea. I'm sorry for that, but the purpose and message I was trying to convey, I do not apologize for. I may not understand fully how this place works, in terms of admins and rules fully, but I do know common sense. And not using a translation because of some stupid thing like "we don't use that because it's spiced-up" is a load of b-word. (Keepin' it PG). Look, I'm sure you've done excellent work here, and I respect that greatly. But the point I was making is that this wikia is used and read by actual Bleach fans, or even fans getting into Bleach, who do read the manga anyways, and often do read it on different sites. MangaStream may spice up translations, but at the same time, it should be noted that the spoilers (which were the same for every site I checked, and I do mean every site) said the same thing that MangaStream's translation of 414 said. Gin's Bankai destroys Cells upon turning to dust and being placed in a target's body. How much clearer can a direct copy make it? Are we looking for the color of the dust? Or how quick it takes for the dust to enter the body? Or the size of how much is needed to kill? Face it. You, and everybody else on this wikia who are supporting the "don't use Mangastream" campaign don't have a logical reason for waiting for another translation besides that whole direct stuff, which I just proved to you doesn't mean anything in the final result. P.S. I tried very hard not to swear, even though I really wish I could right now. --Seireitou-shishō (瀞霊冬川平) 13:08, August 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but he speaks the truth. As much as I've tried to keep my mouth shut (because everytime I open it whether it is to be helpful or just to point something out, I get jumped on by two or more people), he's right. MangaStream is extremely accurate on this matter. You're totally right that compared to Ju-Ni, it's translations are a little more spicy or whatever, but the explanation of the Bankai will not change from one translation to the next. Even the spoilers got it right. You may find it worded a different way, as would you in all translations, but the meaning is the same. Secondly, how do you go about saying which translation is the most "accurate" or not? Because Ju-Ni takes it's time (I mean for heaven's sake, it's the Monday after the chapter came out!)? I mean, what's your proof? I used Narutopedia as an example because it's a very reliable source, and I must say it's much more reliable than this wiki. They use MangaStream's translations to cover the important stuff and then use thier own translators to fix any of the other issues with translations, which is what I believe you guys should do, instead of waiting four or five days for Ju-Ni to get it's act together. That is why you have a Translation Corner after all. The sad thing is, Narutopedia doesn't even have half the rules and project pages you guys do (I haven't found a single manual of style that they follow or anything) and yet they still manage to keep everyone well informed. Now, one way or another I'm fed up with this wiki, so I won't be returning. It's up to you whether or not you wanna reply. I hope that you do not find this message rude, as I am just trying to convey my complaint and opinion in a proffesional manner without disturbing the talk pages or attacking any user in particular. Thank you for your time. ~ The Silver Flash of Konoha (My User Page 18:55, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

You forget Risa, Iduru, Syunsui and Sui-Feng
I saw the message you left on the admin page and wanted to point out you forget to flag the Gotei 13 characters for name change. Lia had brought up Risa and Iduru in the past, Risa based on clear card and Iduru based on a the Zanpakuto poll winning drawing. At the time we went with Viz but as it turns out the score for romanization accuracy mostly lies with the clear cards - which had romanized Izuru as Iduru and Soifon as Sui-Feng. Anyway, just wanted to bring that to your notice. I'll be away from a bit longer then I first expected to but hopefully I'll be back soon to help with the new content. Tinni  (Talk)  16:19, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yamamoto
We already went over Yamamoto's name with the translation corner sometime ago and determined that Genryusai is a honorific title not his actual name hence why its positioned how it currently is. You provided a change in name order thats incorrect the way we right western names even though it is shown like that in the book. There apparently is no change to the spelling.<font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  18:36, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Also where do u have scans for masked. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  19:10, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Isshins past.
it has been confirmed.but since you say so i'll put it's unconfirmed okay?.

People entering info from Masked
Well, people just do not listen. It clearly states on the masked project page(and I also believe this violates the spoiler policy), do not enter new info until it is confirmed by the translation team, etc. I undid edits by DOGGA	and stated to do not post new info until masked is released on the 4th. I have a feeling that myself and other members of this wiki will be dealing with this for the next 24-48 hours, We do not want a repeat of last week. Just thought I would give you the heads up. --Lemursrule (talk) 01:11, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Mayui's reiatsu
Why mayrui has only great spiritual pressure?If he is a kidou master, he has to has immense spiritual pressure.

Medi Edits
So I was wondering you do alot of the media edits and what not do you know of a way to make a pop up for new users which tells them to read the policies and manual of style before making edits. I dont know because it seems impossible for them to go to the link on their talk page and read it themselves. They really disregard it and act as it doesn't matter it would cause less problems if that could be addressed. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  19:58, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Random
Hey do you have any idea on what the next poll should be on Im kinda out at the moment. Also what is your take on the coloration policy most of the discussion is on me and Arrancar109's talk pages. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  16:01, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Box about Espada & Vasto Lorde
Just in case you miss it otherwise, I put up my treatise on the box on the Masked Project page. :) Adam Restling (talk) 05:50, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Bleach Jigoku Hen (Hell Chapter)
I found this info about the fourth movie, since the page is locked.

The 4th Bleach Movie, " Jigoku Hen (Hell Chapter) ", will have Kubo Tite personally over looking the production.

Official Website : http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/bleach/

Animation Production : Studio Peirrot

Release Date (in Theaters) : December 4th, 2010

Trailer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yIVUiUNQc4

Summary : "HELL". is the place where a person is sent to who committed violent crimes when they were alive. SHINIGAMIs are forbidden to go there. One day prisoners revolt and make their escape to the KARAKURA-town where Ichigo and his friends live in. Ichigo and his friends are defeated one after the other by prisoners with overwhelming power. A mystery man appears ("KOKUTOO) who comes to their rescue. With Kokutoo leading the way Ichigo, Rukia, Uryuu, and Renji marches into HELL to save the world.

Now an endless, desperate struggle breaks out between Ichigo and his friends with the TOGABITO! User:Nick Arbeiter, facebook login

Tousen
Is Tousen an arrancar or a vaizard? 18:37, Aug 5, 2010, (UTC)

.ok i'm gonna answer this for you.he's a vizard since he gained hollow powers after his shinigami powers.IllusionZoroark 00:35, August 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Erm, no he is not. He was not transformed via the same method as the Vizard or Ichigo. And the powers he demonstrated are very different. 10:53, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Massage
Did you send me a massage? I'm Domynyk 19:51, Aug 5, 2010, (UTC)