Bleach Wiki talk:Image Gallery/Archive12

Balgo Parks
Wish the projection image of him during the ToH meeting in the anime didn't have the holographic filter on it, but oh well. Basically the manga image but in anime, with colors and all that goodness.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)

This is actually a downgrade if you ask me. 19:24, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Osushi
This is the first time I've ever proposed replacements for multiple different profile images on the same character page, so I've had to get creative with presenting them, hope that's alright. More straightforward replacements for manga images with anime equivalents - only point against here that I can think of is that Osushi isn't facing forward in the main proposal, but try as I might that's the best full shot I could get of him out of the movie.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) Of both, as proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Of both as well. Timjer (talk) 10:32, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) Sure, why not.  19:24, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Macy Baljure
Hoo boy, lots to go through here. Main and Tertiary are pretty straightforward upgrades from manga to anime, especially Tertiary with Macy now facing forward instead of 3/4ths, but if her body/arm look a bit weird in Secondary, that's due to the shot looking sorta down on her while she's being carried into the air - but I personally think the brighter colors and entire head being visible make up for that.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) Of all three, as proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Don't see any problems for any of the three, so go for it. Timjer (talk) 10:32, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) Go for it.  19:24, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Cinderella
More straightforward stuff, albeit with molted!Cinderella looking a biiiiiiit different in the anime. But whatever, it's still well-drawn.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) Of both, as proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) All good enouhg for me. Timjer (talk) 10:32, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) Good like for like colour versions.  19:24, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Bruno Bangnyfe
The Secondary one is pretty much objectively better in my opinion, but Main is a bit more up in the air depending on whether you prefer Kubo's style with the somewhat darker colors or want to use the anime version across the board. As for me personally...--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) Of Secondary only, as proposer (I'm in the "Kubo where possible" camp).--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Of the Main one. But I'm a bit on the fence when it comes to the much darker Secondary one. Timjer (talk) 10:32, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) Yes.  19:24, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Tronbone Takkinen
Basically only putting this up for discussion in case others want it.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) I love how faithful the film's designs are, but the darker colors kill this one for me - the colored manga image is perfectly suitable.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Darker yes, but at least it doesn't show, ehm, you know in the background. Timjer (talk) 10:32, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) Looks like a person instead of a cloud with a face, even if the hat is much smaller looking.  19:24, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Cquntnire Milieve
Finally, a colored image for this one, even if it's kinda dark.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)~
 * 2) Darker yes, but I suppose it's the best we have for now. Timjer (talk) 10:33, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) Its grand.  19:24, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Sullivan Squire
Unfortunately the only properly lit shot of Sullivan in the movie has her facing sorta away, but I still prefer it over the last two iterations of her profile image.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) The current one is way to dark. ~Sccq98 (talk) 13:50, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) Not great but its a bit better.  19:24, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Arkvine
Another objective upgrade, both for color and detail.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Same reasons. Timjer (talk) 10:32, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) Yup  19:24, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Harry Shayk
Now he's facing at 3/4ths instead of sideways and is in color, points all around.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Same reasons. Timjer (talk) 10:32, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) Yup again.  19:24, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Wolfgang Slashhaut
The proposal may not have him facing forward, but now he's better-lit and you can see his full face/head.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 10:24, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Same reasons. Timjer (talk) 10:32, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) The lighting isn't perfect but it's still better than in the current one. Sccq98 (talk 13:52, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) Good improvemnt, previous pic was quite poor.  19:24, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Tier Harribel
At Timjer's request, I've found Harribel's pre- and post-Resurrección mugs in my colored manga and put them up as a replacement for what we're currently using from the anime. His points, which I agree with, are that the anime visibly lightens Harribel's skin tone compared to the manga and censors parts of her design, mainly her mask fragments, so in the interest of accuracy it makes the most sense to use a manga image. These might not be the best replacements, but it's a start and I can always find a better one further down the line.--Xilinoc (talk) 15:59, October 10, 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) For both Proposal Mainand Proposal Secondary 2, as (joint) proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 15:59, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) As (joint) proposer, for both Proposal Mainand Proposal Secondary 2. She may not face the viewer as much in Proposal Main, but IMO the overall quality and faithfulness is better. Timjer (talk) 16:03, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) Proposal Main, while not perfect, is more faithful to her appearance, as is Proposal Secondary 2. FutureEeveeKing13 (talk) 22:16, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) New pics are actually her, so support new main one and for the two options, I think between those its going to have to be the blood/debris-less Op. 2.  08:35, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

New Background
Well, it took a truly unnecessary amount of work due to FANDOM's arbitrarily low background image filesize limit of 300kb, and it wounds me to have to upload JPGs for anything, let alone this...but I've managed to put together two alternatives to the current, long-standing TYBW background image for the wiki. Why? Well, I personally like it, but I've had it brought to my attention that it can cause considerable visibility issues since the wiki uses white/gray text and that tends to blend in/disappear when the central portion of the background image has lots of light colors, as ours currently does. Plus, with BURN THE WITCH officially on its feet and part of the wiki, I and others feel that the background should no longer be just Bleach-oriented, even if that comprises the vast majority of our content. Hence, two proposals with black central portions (which might necessitate changing image caption text from gray to white for readability, an easy enough fix I think) and equal representation for both Bleach and BURN THE WITCH on its sides (debated trying to do some sort of collage, but I don't know that my skills are good enough for that to be front and center on every page of this wiki, so I just stuck with cropped color spreads). You're free to critique these two or add options of your own, but I do think it's time for a change.--Xilinoc (talk) 05:30, 16 December 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) Of the two that are currently up, I prefer Option 2, since landscapes present a more neutral contrast to page content than characters do.--Xilinoc (talk) 05:30, 16 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Neutral. As I said below, I think its time for a change. Renewed anime on its way, second season of Burn the Witch so in favour of having the two showcased. I take Xil's comment about colour contrast aboard, but personally I wouldnt use option 2 as frankly Karaura Town is not the most distinctive or important place, but even if it was SS, I think better to use the characters than places (already in topnav, not in favour of it all being the same). As for which characters, obviously Ichigo should be there, but I find it hard to justify not having Rukia in there too (is there a colour version of this or similar?), or alternatively Ichigo & Yhwach/other Quincy given thats what Bleach will be in 2021. Same goes for BTW, I get Noel isnt there due to difficulting in cropping, but she should be, more important than the two lads. That being said, if thats not possible, I'll take op 1 over op 2. 11:05, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, you've got a point about both. If we'd prefer characters over locations, I can rework the second one to be more inclusive - I just went with what sprang to mind for options. Unfortunately, the fairly narrow side-space limits options as far as single, non-edited images go, so no promises that it will look perfect. But I appreciate the input.--Xilinoc (talk) 11:09, 16 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Neutral. Honestly, I can't decide either. The locations background isn't bad, but I'd prefer if it showed SS and Reverse London instead then. The character one on the other hand is something I'd choose first, but can we perhaps add Ichigo and Rukia both from the final arc for the Bleach side? Timjer (talk) 11:36, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

In a fit of inspiration from Yyp's critique, I not only managed to fit that Ichigo/Rukia color spread onto the left side, but also tracked down transparent PNGs of the Noel and Ninny promotional art and arranged them on the right in what I think is a decent composition. Unfortunately, I can't get rid of the color surrounding Ichigo and Rukia to make it a matching black while keeping it looking good, but otherwise I think this addresses the problems with 1?--Xilinoc (talk) 11:40, 16 December 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) Now of Option 3 instead.--Xilinoc (talk) 11:40, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) I too support option 3, but I did create a different variation of option 3 that looks a little bit cleaner. 15:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) op3 - for me this is a winning combo from Xil and Lemurs.  19:28, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * 3 - same reasons as above. 1's missing Noel, 2 is overall lacking due to only being locations, and 4 is really just a messier version of 3 on the left.
 * 1) I support Option 3 as well. Timjer (talk) 20:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Getsuga Tenshō profile pic
So, as I said here, maybe we should change the Getsuga Tenshō profile pic to a manga one. If anyone has better ideas, by all means suggest them. Timjer (talk) 20:46, 9 January 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) Of what we've got here I'd say Proposal Main 2 works best, for a number of reasons: it's the technique in action (being fired) rather than charged, you can see its size and shape clearly, and there's not a second technique being fired/miscolored (hello, Nake Benihime). I'd be fine with this one.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:26, 9 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Huh, I didn't even realize that was supposed to be Benihime's powers because they weren't crimson... Timjer (talk) 10:56, 10 January 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) Xil's explanation for his choice is good enough for me. I also support Proposal Main 2 for now. Timjer (talk) 10:56, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) Number 2 is good enough. Same reasons.  11:36, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Reiatsu profile pic
Likewise, as I suggested here, what do people think of switching this filler example with a canon example? Timjer (talk) 16:54, 10 January 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) As the proposer. Timjer (talk) 16:54, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) This is a much nicer one, in addition to not being filler, so yes.  18:30, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) Fine by me - back in the day, the profile image for Reiatsu was a PNG of the pillars in the current GIF, and under the impression that it was the only time multiple Reiatsu colors were on screen together, I thought it made more sense as a GIF. A canon replacement is more than sufficient.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:11, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck
I'm on a roll here it seems... So yeah, wanted to switch Child Nel's infobox image with a manga one, and while I'm at it add a third one of her pre-timeskip design. Timjer (talk) 21:11, 10 January 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) As the proposer. Timjer (talk) 21:11, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) Heck yeah to both, manga accuracy.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:34, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) Main actually shows the mask so that on its own is enough but yes, proper colours are preferable.  10:26, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Yasochika Iemura
Once again, filler comes in clutch for situations where the canon falters. Put simply, the current profile image for Iemura is not good; he's not centered, not facing the camera, and showing too much of his body/surroundings, but this alternative I found (which might be the ONLY good front-facing shot of him in all of Bleach) remedies all those problems (along with properly portraying his hairstyle). Not even a contest, imo.--Xilinoc (talk) 04:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) As uploader and proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 04:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) Not the greatest picture ever, not sure what it is but it looks off (maybe Ive just never seen this guy head on before?), but it is vastly more suited to profile picture duty.  10:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) I agree. Not perfect, but still better than the original. Timjer (talk) 18:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Mabashi
Speaking plainly, there's nothing super wrong about Mabashi's current profile pic - he's facing the camera, centered in the frame, decent quality, so on and so forth. However, this second frontal shot of him from the same episode is higher-quality, closer to his face and thus more detailed, and doesn't have him tilting his head, in general just being focused on and portraying his design better. That said, it partially cuts off the top of his head, buuuut he doesn't have much going on up there anyway so I don't feel like that's really a point against it.


 * 1) As uploader and proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 18:24, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) I'd keep the current one. Its fine. Maybe the bottom could be cropped a little if you want it to be closer up. There really isnt any detail to see in this guy's face, it doesnt make much difference and can be achieved that way. The tilt is not an issue. Plus current one doesnt cut off the top of his head.  19:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Kaname Tōsen (pre-defection)
So Tōsen's first profile pic has bugged me for a long time - it's high-quality enough, but it's from the side for no reason I can think of and just looks kinda weird overall, especially with direct comparison to his second, post-defection profile pic that's front-facing. But I didn't have anything suitable to replace it with...till now. Episode 44 provided an alternative that, while a bit shaded, shows him completely from the front, gives more texture/detail to his hair, and even lets you see the outline of one of his eyes through the visor - imo, it's an improvement on all fronts. (That said, his hair IS actually just black in the manga per the cover of VICE IT, so eventually I'll put up colored manga alternatives for all his profile pics, but we can cross that bridge when we get to it and fix this for now).--Xilinoc (talk) 08:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer.--Xilinoc (talk) 08:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) Better  09:12, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) Yeah, makes it more obvious that it's a scarf and stuff!!

Grand Fisher (Arrancar)
So I've only recently noticed it due to the page using Grand Fisher's original Hollow form as the primary page image, but what we currently use to represent/display his Arrancar form...doesn't sit right with me. Not only is it kinda small and not super detailed, but it fails to show the most crucial part of his new design - the fact that his face is visible underneath the mask, which is more like two separate visors now - and instead looks like Grand Fisher went through some kinda Dragon Ball-style evolution rather than transforming into a more humanoid being. So for a change, I've found multiple alternatives from the one episode we see his face in, as well as from the manga (totally forgot to put one up the first time around, lol); 1 shows both just part of his face but also his full mask/head and shoulders, 2 is more of a close-up but still preserves almost all of his mask, 3 is the closest to a standard profile image but isn't fully head-on and cuts out a fair bit of his mask, 4 is more zoomed-out than 1 to strike a sort of balance between the full-body images we used for Hollows and the head/shoulders-only ones we used for other characters, and 5 is sort of a happy medium of them all. Up to you which one works best.--Xilinoc (talk) 08:08, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) Personally, I most prefer Option 5 both for the improved detail/texture over the anime stills and also for hitting all the important stuff I think this needs - the big ol' Hollow hole, the humanoid face under the mask with the eyes and mouth visible, and the mask being clearly detailed.--Xilinoc (talk) 08:08, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) I'd vote for either Option 3 or Option 5, the former because it's the best close-up, the latter because it shows the most detail. Timjer (talk) 10:44, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) 5. Best one including his face and mask.  13:25, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 4) 5 no question. It’s the most crisp version and gives the best look of him.  14:21, 25 May 2021 (UTC)