Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner

The Translation Corner is a group of Bleach Wiki users who are tasked with translating the various names, abilities, techniques and etc. found in the Bleach Universe. Being that Bleach is a Japanese manga that use Japanese, Chinese, Indian, German, Spanish and English language in various instances and cases, the use of translators is a focal point to the continuation of accuracy on the wiki. All users should read our Translation Guidelines before you start translating.

Roles of the Translation Corner
The following are the duties of the corner:


 * 1. To assure the correctness of all translations that are presented on the site.


 * 2. To determine the outcome of Contentious Translations: If a translation is questioned at all, that should be brought up in this section. In this way a translator, committee member or admin can explain why the translation is used or conversation can take place for translations that are harder to classify.


 * 3. To determine the correct translation of Zanpakutō (names, release calls, etc.): This section is for requests for translation of zanpakuto and zanpakuto related translations.


 * 4. To determine the correct translation of Character and element (e.g. devices) names: This section is for requests for translation of characters/techniques/equipment and general key words.


 * 5. To determine the correct translation of General/Other translation issues (e.g. conjugation/miscellanea): This section is for requests about translations that don't fit any particular criteria such as conjugation or such things such as accents used in the names.

Associate Members
The following users are approved members of the Translation Corner. As per the rules of the corner, any non-members answering translation questions will have their posts removed. If you are not a member of the Translation Corner, DO NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THEIR BEHALF!
 * Adam Restling (Primary Japanese Translator)
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 * Mad6

Inactive Members
The following users are still members of the Translation Corner. Their names have been placed here due to prolonged inactivity. Should they return, they retain the right to answer translation questions as official members of the Corner.
 * MarqFJA
 * Vraieesprit

References & Sources

 * Kanji-to-English:
 * Tangorin
 * Mahou Kanji Dictionary
 * Kanji Networks
 * OldNihongo.J-Talk.Com
 * Denshi Jisho
 * Basic Japanese verbal data: The imperative inflection of Japanese verbs

Associate Box
Ok folks I have finally gotten around to makeing the Associate Box. You can put it on your user page using the command. Below is what the box looks like. Tinni  (Talk)  14:37, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Translation Guidelines

 * Anyone doing any form of translation. Looking up on Google Translate or similar translation tools, is not translating. You are not doing the site any favors by doing amateur translation. Please refrain from using such tools.


 * This is not a conversation page. It is a simple question and answer page for translation. All conversations should be held on a particular user talk page or the talk page of this page.


 * Users should simply place their request and wait for it to be answered. To keep it simple, if the user posting the request has no real understanding of translation, the point is not for you to learn how to translate here. Usage of the page should extend no more then to asking for a translation to be done. Please refrain from badgering the translators for understanding on why a translation is translated a certain way. If you knew anything about translation you wouldn't be asking someone else to do it, therefore it makes no sense to argue with them.


 * If you are not a member of the translation corner, please do not answer translation questions. Leave it to our translators so as to avoid confusion.


 * Admin have the final say on the translation being placed into a article.


 * If you are not a translation corner member and are answering posts or giving opinion on this page they will be removed, this is a translation corner member answer page, not a conversation page.

Yūkōjōchū Muramasa and Shisō Kekkai
This is more a case of contentious renderings or something, but...

The above two technique things are anime-exclusive, so we don't really have visible kanji and thus furigana to base their names off of. However, something strange happened in the dub of the Zanpakutō arc, where they were named: in episode 250, Kōga calls out his technique as  Mū kōjōchū Muramasa, and in episode 251, Yamamoto refers to the sealing Kidō as Shisō Ke ppō  (might be -ppo, dunno). Does anyone have an explanation for that, or what the different names might mean in terms of kanji meaning?--Xilinoc (talk) 17:33, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

Sōgyo no Kotowari
This has been bugging me for quite some time. On the wiki, we've officially translated Sōgyo no Kotowari (双魚理) as meaning Truth of Pisces (双 meaning "pair/twin", 魚 meaning "fish", 理 meaning "justice/truth", and the "no" indicating 理 is the possessor). That sounds all well and good for the translation, since "pair/twin" + "fish" logically = Pisces, the twin fish constellation.

However, I decided to check the kanji on Tangorin for funsies, and found that the Japanese language actually has its own set of kanji for the word/symbol of Pisces - 魚座 (魚 being "fish" and 座 being "seat/gathering"...which apparently together form the word for a celestial constellation. Go figure). Now, this might just be Tangorin being inaccurate, but I have a feeling that Viz's translation - Law of the Twin Fish - is more accurate in regard to the second part of the name. Adam, if you could determine what's going on here and if it's actually accurate to use Pisces in the translation when the name itself doesn't have the kanji for that term, that'd be wonderful. Thanks in advance.--Xilinoc (talk) 03:27, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

English Transliteration for Attacks
I noticed that we use romanization to name English attacks like Sandobaggu Bīto and Mashiro Sūpā Kikku, yet we have Deadly Darts as it is instead of Deddorī Dātsu. I highly suggest we move Sandobaggu Bīto to Sandbag Beat and etc.. After all, for all the Arrancar and Quincy attacks, we use their proper names instead of romanization as titles (Heilig Pfeil instead of Hairihhi Bufairu, Cero instead of Sero). Just to be consistent in naming pages. Yatanogarasu (talk) 20:50, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Bonze
I finally got the raws of the latest volume and found one thing we missed. When Ichibei explains his title to Renji he actually explains which hieroglyphs are used. So Manako is 真名呼 which means [the one that] calls the real name. And it seems that homophony with eye/perception is made on purpose. 05:06, June 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Funny that this just now hit me. I thought something on his page looked weird. Since the kanji for "Manako" weren't given when his title was first revealed, doesn't that mean that its translation as "Perception" had no basis to begin with? I mean, I don't doubt that it could be a pun, but I don't think we ever actually got the kanji for it (眼). Mohrpheus   (Talk)  19:13, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

Episode 230-265 sans 256
Having seen the considerable difference between the current title of Episode 256 ("Byakuya's anger, collapse of the Kuchiki family") and Adam's rendering of its kanji/kana ("The Enraged Byakuya! Collapse of the House of Kuchiki"), I've decided to do the same to the other episodes of the Zanpakutō and Tōjū arcs, so Adam, if you could take a crack at each of the following, I'd appreciate it very much.


 * Episode 230:


 * Episode 231:


 * Episode 232:


 * Episode 233:


 * Episode 234:


 * Episode 235:


 * Episode 236:


 * Episode 237:


 * Episode 238:


 * Episode 239:


 * Episode 240:


 * Episode 241:


 * Episode 242:


 * Episode 243:


 * Episode 244:


 * Episode 245:


 * Episode 246:


 * Episode 247:


 * Episode 248:


 * Episode 249:


 * Episode 250:


 * Episode 251:


 * Episode 252:


 * Episode 253:


 * Episode 254:


 * Episode 255:


 * Episode 257: (note: I have a feeling the rōmanji here is off as well)


 * Episode 258:


 * Episode 259:


 * Episode 260:


 * Episode 261:


 * Episode 262:


 * Episode 263:


 * Episode 264:


 * Episode 265: (note: the kanji on this episode's page is actually from the previous episode, so if you could add what the kanji should actually be to your response, Adam, I'd greatly appreciate it)

Thanks a great deal in advance.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:12, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I've been dead for so long, and prob. will be for a while yet :(--it's always busier in the spring and summer.

Prob. most of these are pretty close to correct, but I'll check and give mine if it seems apt (a lot of it will come down to aesthetic, e.g. when a more straightly-lit. interpretation seems too stilted). I'll prob. also do these in "installments", since there are so many, and that way I *hope* to avoid careless mistakes etc.

230 I'm not sure why -ka is hyphenated--in English we don't say material-ize(d)/ization--but I dunno if it's just the habit on the wiki or not.

231 It seems it's better as Byakuya, Sakura to Tomo ni Kiyu, but yeah, it's pretty much "Byakuya, Disappearing With the Cherry Blossoms/Sakura".

232 Madoi can mean "perplexing", but it seems chiefly to mean "delusion, beguiling" and thus, owing to this and the word order, *I* would translate it something like "Sode no Shirayuki vs. Rukia! Delusion of the Heart".

237 Since ~seyo is apparently an alternative imperative of the verbalizing suffix ~suru "do", I would prob. translate "Sui-Feng, Surround the Zanpakutō".

238 Keno seems better translated to "aversion, disgust", but this may be a split-hair-ity.

239 Again, it seems to be an imperative in the first line (目覚めよ mezameyo), sic. "Awaken, Hyōrinmaru!". Also, gekitou, according to this wiki's habits, should be gekitō.

240 Based on the word order etc, I'd've used "The Treacherous Byakuya" but, again, splitting hairs, perhaps.

242 May be nitpicking, but shouldn't we just use the ampersand (&) instead of the word and? Plus, sou~ (as above -> sō) in this usage is prob. a prefix, so it should prob. be one word, sōshutsugeki.

244 This is tough, since man o ji shite (if we're following the above habit of separating the verb stem from forms of suru like seyo and shite) seems to, more lit., mean "holding/having the fullness", but seems to be meant to express "wait for the chance/opportunity; bide one's time", so I prob. would've used "Awaiting His Chance..."

I'll try to finish next time I edit :). Adam Restling (talk) 11:37, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Satyr Tōjū Kanji
I've been forgetting to do this for a while now, but in episode 256, the Satyr Tōjū appears to have a single kanji printed on his kilt thingy. Since I'm unable to identify it from sight, could someone list said kanji on here and give its meaning? Thanks in advance.--Xilinoc (talk) 20:33, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

Chapter 502 Title
It seems as though we never got a proper rendering for Chapter 502's kanji title (散桜), so if someone could do that, I'd appreciate it.--Xilinoc (talk) 07:55, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

Quincy Zeichen
I was watching episode 164 because reasons, and therein, Uryu refers to the Quincy cross as the Quincy Zeichen. After doing some digging, I found this was in the manga as well, and we'd apparently never noticed it until now. This is a raw of the page it was mentioned on (panel in question has "Quincy Zeichen" written in Roman letters on it, can't miss it), so I'd greatly appreciate it if Adam or someone else could post the kana, kanji, and "official" translation, as well as a translation of the sentence in full so we know what, exactly, is being said. Thanks in advance.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:48, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

Location of Reiōkyū
http://www.iibq.com/comic/82012129495/viewcomic138823/?p=173&s=0

Evidently, Mangastream and Mangapanda had conflicting translations regarding this page, and Cnet's translations do not go back that far. Where exactly is Yamamoto saying that the Palace is in relation to Soul Society? The current interpretation is that it is in a different dimension - does the text agree with that? Mohrpheus  (Talk)  02:46, July 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * For reference, we're talking about the middle panel here.--Xilinoc (talk) 07:03, July 4, 2014 (UTC)