Talk:Bleach Wiki

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The Main Article Talk Page is for discussing the Main Page and the content that appears on it only. This is not the place for asking about other pages, or for placing posts that you just can't find somewhere to put. Please use the Bleach Wiki talk:Community Portal, the Forum:Improvements and Issues or the relevant article's Talk Page for that. Thank you. -- Yyp  (Talk)  12:25, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

New Layout
Hi, I'm Wendy, a helper with wikia. As described at Wikia's New Style, there are going to be some necessary changes to the ad layout on the main page. In order to accomodate this, the main page needs to be recast in a two-column format.

I've made the changes for Bleach Wiki. I tried to use all of your existing main page elements and only tweak the layout slightly from single-column to two-columns. Eventually, a new, 300px-wide ad will appear on the upper right and the content will slide down on that side.

Please let me know on my talk page if you have any questions, if you like it or hate it, or if there's anything I should change. -- Wendy (talk ) 19:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

New Main Page
I changed the Layout and the overall format of the Main Page I thought the other one was to plain and this will attrack new readers i fyou don't like it then go ahead and change it back but i like it. if you think we can improve it another way please leave me a meassage on my talk page and we'll make it better WhiteStrike 01:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Article of the Month
The Article of the month needs changing, i don't know how, so could someone please do that? Acacia Akiyama 17:02, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree -


 * I'll have a new one up soon WhiteStrike 01:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Done
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Anime/Manga info
Um,how come no one's changed that yet,the chapter already came out,and so did episode 203. GohanRULEZ 19:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Err.. I don't feel like making a "good" version for recent chapter/episode, but feel free to edit it at Template:CSL ^-^'

Problem with "Article of the Month" blurb
Erm, the blurb for the "Featured Article of the Month" section contains quite a handful of grammatical and spelling errors. ShotandBotched 19:44, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I only found two (One:Ulwuiorra two:Ulqiorra) NnoitraJiruga901 19:53, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * "Deflection" should be "defection", it should be ","under" Aizen's orders,", "ad" should be "and", and then there are the two misspelled Ulquiorras that you pointed out. ShotandBotched 21:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Not to be rude when i read the articl i noticed the mistakes but it doesnt really matter because i thought people would be able to correct it themselfes so there was no needd for me to report it. Hollow_Ichigo
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grammatical error
article of the month (4/09)contains grammatical errors. Vinak963 04:34, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
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Current Story for English Adaptation?
Do any of you think it would be a good idea to put a current story for the anime for the English adaptation? NnoitraJiruga901 21:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I think it is a good idea to put a current story for the anime, but why for the English adaptation? Gran Danku 20:29, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Navigation
Looking at the navigation bar, I noticed Nel is listed as a former fraccion. She was an Espada wasn't she? So shouldn't we make a section for previous Espada or something? Acacia Akiyama 16:11, 26 April 2009 (UTC) That would be the Privaron Espada. But technically, Nel was never a part of that faction.
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Random article
Sorry, I don't want to delete it, but placed as it was is simply awful and gives a really bad look on my page, actually, I don't see any places in the page it could fit to.

Article of the month pic
Should we change the picture of Harribel for the one that appeared in the latest chapter? Though the month is almost over, I think that one would look more elegant, because the present one seems like "we didn't find any better". And well, the new one is like the ones we normally use for the Article of the month. Just a thought though. Lia Schiffer 07:09, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
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Current Story...
When will you update the Current Story?

I sometimes come onto this site to read info on characters, but aside from that, something always irks me whenever I come visit the main page--the Current Story section.

Why is it written in a fashion similar to an ending to a DBZ episode?

"What path will this battle take as Tōshirō Hitsugaya prepares to use an untested Bankai technique..." "What will happen as Resurrección meets Bankai and what secret about Ikkaku does Tetsuzaemon Iba knows..."

The current story section should give the readers a brief outline of what occurred in both the Manga and the Anime, without sounding like that announcer in every DBZ episode.

Are you trying to tell the reader to go read/watch the Manga/Anime to find out what happens, or are you trying to--or should be trying to--give a good, brief outline on what happened.

Giving the readers what happened during the first half of the show/chapter, then telling them "What will happen as Resurrección meets Bankai and what secret about Ikkaku does Tetsuzaemon Iba knows..." is like slapping me in the face, and telling me to read/watch to find out the last bits, when that section is strictly supposed to give me what occurred in its entirety

Ya know? LLight 22:10, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Err... I don't know how to edit the part about current story, so I'll leave it to someone with skill to do it if that person deems it necessary... In the manga part it says Barragan and Harribel defeated... I think the word presumed should be inserted, because it isn't 100% for certain... Auron85 00:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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Automated transfer of Problem Report #21941
The following message was left by Blackcero via PR #21941 on 2009-05-08 19:43:00 UTC

Not so much a problem as much as it is something I couldn't edit. Under "Current Story..." I think it should be Having thought her opponent was defeated instead of "Having though her opponent to be defeated." I hope this doesn't come off as nitpicking but I couldn't edit myself.

-BC
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"With Harribel and Barragan defeated..."
This part of the "Current Story" section is awfully speculative. Neither of these Espadas have been confirmed dead, for all we know they might still fight on. My suggestion is that we avoid being so direct until their defeat if actually confirmed, try using something like "With Harribel and Barragan seemingly defeated...". The Seaweed Ambassador 21:11, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See? Told you so. This is just another example of this how particular Wikia is being poorly managed, along sysops constantly using rollback to revert good faith edits. Its impossible to improve a project if all of the content is polarized by such a small group of users. Rollback was created to undo blantant vandalism, other reverts should at least be explained so a constructive discussion can follow it. The Seaweed Ambassador 00:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

This system of conversations that Wikia incorporates is quite useless... I wrote the same thing you wrote about the statement in the current story (I always new they could not be defeated THAT easily) and no one answered it... I also asked who writes those things, being that I don't know how to manipulate the content of the Current story section, but, again, no response! Things aught to be changed around here... Auron85 17:44, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

In defense of whoever wrote that, I thought that was what the actual manga said.Medrike14 20:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
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Shunsui
Line in his feature says "Starrk finds himself fighting Starrk and as the two battle they develop an interest in seeing the others true power."

Should it not be "Shunsui finds himself fighting Starrk and as the two battle they develop an interest in seeing the others true power."
 * Thanks! It has been corrected now! WhiteStrike 23:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

there is a line in his feature that has been misspelled "He fights amd defeatas Chad as the later tries to make his way to rescue Rukia." Emperorjaganglee 07:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
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Current Events
How do you update the Current Events? gohanRULEZ 03:14, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Gohan-chan! I figured out how to change the current story part a day ago! When I saw it say someone interupted Shinji's and Aizen's meeting (referring to the ending of the chapter 366, when it was obviously Shinji the one who swooped the sword toward Aizen), I just couldn't sit and watch. I'll share with everyone how to change the Current story section. '''To change the Current Story section on the Main page, go to Edit this page. When the editor appears, scroll down to the bottom of the page and you'll find written in Bold letters Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page:. The editor we are interested in is TEMPLATE:CSL (EDIT)''' Use this power wisely. ;) Auron85 13:04, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Hm... I guess I'm responsible for the Current story updating (manga share)... But, please, don't hesitate to change it if you think it's too biased or incorrect! Also, there will be a period of time when I won't be able to do my part of the job, so if someone sees the Current story not updated even though the new manga issue is long out, do something about it! Everyone will appreciate it. Auron85 18:40, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
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Random Character Image
I just noticed that the image for Rose, is Mashiro. It's captioned as Rose, and links to his article, but the picture itself is Mashiro. One eye 07:58, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I've also noticed a similar problem with the image of the Cloning arrancar. Again, the name and link are for the Cloning Arrancar, but, the image is Gran Fisher
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Currently in the Anime
It hasn't been updated yet with the episode "Wonderful Error" with is unusual. Are we to leave it alone since this episode is just an episode of a time in the past? IchigoKitty 05:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The current story line is usually not updated until the manga chapter comes out. So it has been updated already. WhiteStrike 11:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, since there is no manga chapter this week, should the anime be updated soon? One eye 03:23, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
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Sept. Featured Article
Maybe this I'm just impatient, but I was wondering, when does the featured article of the month typically get updated? I'm looking forward to seeing a bit of change in the look on the front page - keeps things fresh. :) Twocents 22:11, September 4, 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree, whatt's going on?? I thought Lisa won the Article of the Month!! I mean, its over a week into September!!SunXia 20:47, September 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is under our attention. As I told Salubri, I'm searching for a suitable character image from the manga, as I'm not sure if she has a character page like the others did (it was a similar situation with Harribel). Once I've found one, I'll edit the page. Though, if anyone can also supplement one to us, Message me and I'll get the page changed. Either way, I'll be working on it. Arrancar109 21:08, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure she didn't have a title page, so you may have to use a picture of her from something else. --Yyp 21:11, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Yyp. It may not be in keeping with the rest of the featured articles, but it's better than nothing. If we do find a suitable pic afterwards, then changing it shouldn't be a problem. TomServo101 21:27, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Glad to see Lisa has gotten her moment at last. Good work on finding such a suitable picture. I think this pict is fine, just as effective as the character pics the others have tbh. --Yyp 21:50, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thank Twocents for finding the pic, as he managed to find a good one. Thanks, Twocents, as it is greatly appreciated. Arrancar109 21:55, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I'm a female, but you're welcome. ^_^ I'm glad to be of help. Twocents 22:00, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
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Oct. Featured Article
It's probably just me, but I think there's something wrong with Starrk's preview profile in the main page, and here are my reasons:


 * 1.) Starrk's profile in the main page is outdated; I mean, his introductory description should have been at least around the time when he fought against Love and Rose using his most powerful move: The Wolf Pack (NOT when he just released his Resurreccion). Lisa, who was featured last month, on the other hand, was introduced efficiently as her latest action during September was with Hiyori aiding Hitsugaya in battling Harribel.
 * 2.) If Starrk was July's Featured Article, his profile would most probably be the current post in the main page (releasing his Ressurreccion), which was up-to-date during that time.

I hope at least someone participates in this thread and I'd like to know what you guys think (but please, no flames). Thanks in advance.:)--Ethelion 03:56, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is not really up for debate, the fact is the ones that are used are those presented as chapter covers. The one used last month for lisa was only used because she had no chapter cover. So the only picture available was used. Also the introduction features him as he was originally featured if you want to know current stuff go to the page. No one but admin can put up the main page so theres no point of debating something that is not up for general edit. thank you.Salubri 05:26, October 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * Did you really read my previous message? I meant the TEXT DESCRIPTION, NOT the picture.--Ethelion 01:34, October 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * I understand exactly what you're saying Ethelion & I agree with U, but Salubri said its not up for discussion since an Admin usually does the main page, so theres not much we can do about it. Minato88 01:56, October 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for understanding man. I really appreciate it.:)--Ethelion 02:21, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
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Nov. Featured Article
Why is Starrk still the Featured Article of the Month? Wasn't it changed?--Lazer81095 02:31, November 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * Their working on it. Minato88 02:36, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
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Nov. Featured Article: Part II
How come Byakuya's preview profile is updated (not that there's something wrong with it)? Was there a more recent chapter cover that mentions him teaming up with Kenpachi (Again, not that there's something wrong with it; In fact, I'm ecstatic that these two powerhouses are finally teaming up!)? I mean, Starrk's preview profile was outdated when he won last month because it "only follows the presented chapter cover" when he released his Resurreccion, NOT when he was already fighting Love and Rose with it (which was what should have been in the preview because this was his last action when he won as last month's featured article). No flames please.

I hope I'm not the only one who thinks that a character's preview profile should be 'up-to-date', based on his current actions (i.e. Sept. Featured Article: Lisa Yadōmaru) and not because it's part of a chapter cover, when he wins as Featured Article of the Month, to keep things consistent. I also hope that you guys would participate again with my latest thread. Thanks in advance!:)--Ethelion 07:36, November 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not entirely sure what you mean - are you talking about the picture or the text?. Your use of "chapter cover" is very confusing. The reasons for the Starrk article being the way it was were explained to you already. Without knowing what exactly you are asking, all I can add to that is that the current feature article is (bar a couple of grammar/spelling edits) the same as when it was first put up, and the most up to date information at the time was used (Zaraki and Byakuya had just attacked Yammy at the time). --Yyp 14:25, November 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm talking about the text and by "Chapter Cover", I mean the manga page that contains the text describing the featured article. So are you saying that Kenpachi and Byakuya's intervention is already included in the text?


 * As for writing in upper cases, I humbly apologize for that. It's just that my last thread here in this talk page was rudely set aside by the one admin whom I didn't mention (I prefer not mentioning his name, at least out of respect) due to a substantial bad blood between me and that person with to him constantly giving me negative feedbacks since I came here. I hope you understand. I would greatly apperciate it if you could reply soon.--Ethelion 14:37, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

The featured article was put up after the release of chapter 380. Chapters 379 & 380 show Byakuya & Zaraki freeing Ichigo and telling him to go to Karakura Town. This is included in the final sentence of the featured article. --Yyp 15:02, November 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * You mean that final sentence was officially included in Byakuya's Cover Chapter Text in the manga? And what's your say in writing up your own text to keep things consistent? I mean, Lisa didn't have a chapter cover page of her own when when she was September's Featured Article, so the admin created one for herself (I remember you weren't one yet). So, what do you think?--Ethelion 16:02, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
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Featured Picture
I think that given that the picture is the point of the feature, it should be somewhat bigger. Right now the text is kind of dominating and I thought the point was to showcase the picture. Just a friendly suggestion. Tinni 07:25, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Latest Episode
When will 266 be put up? It should be there by now, it's been out for three days. --| WhiteArmor | (Talk) |-- 09:28, April 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * It can be updated by his anyone at this link: Template:CSL2 (the manga one is Template:CSL). Yyp  (Talk) 11:22, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Poll
I have no idea how that poll thing on the homepage works, but is it possible to have the number of votes each character is getting HIDDEN so as to not unnecessarily influence voters? Benihime101 03:46, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

yes this would be great. just show the numbers at the end and could they pls be sorted from best to worst voting. Sanji Taichou 20:27, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

June's Article of the Month
I have found this mistake within Urahara's summary:Gin has been a semi-regular featured character in the Bleach series, most commonly seen with Tessai and his helpers

which states "Gin has been a semi regular" which should be changed to Urahara. Please change this mistake. Ashleyyyy 23:31, June 7, 2010 (UTC)Ashleyyyy

Question about necessity of Manga Spoilers
I am aware that there are many people who do not read the manga, but avidly watch the anime. Leaving the debate aside about who is getting a better Bleach experience out of Manga/non-Manga readers, is there any way to revise the Spoiler Policy to hide or move manga spoilers? For example the "Status" category in the character data sections is so easy to accidentally read, giving away an entire fight often before it has even started in the Anime. It makes the site basically impossible to read for spoiler-conscientious Anime-only fans.

What can be done about this? Any ideas? DrKaii 13:29, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

On the spoiler page, we have a show/hide tab for the manga yet to be released. Could we use a tab like that to do a job here, or would it be overkill? TomServo101 (Talk)  12:39, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Your point is utterly illogical and therefore will not be considered. ALL the articles on the wiki are "manga-current". Therefore, most people doing anything on the wiki will be exposed to the "manga spoilers". By visiting this wiki, anime-only individuals are assuming the risk of being exposed to manga content. If they don't like it, they should find a Bleach Anime-only wiki. But we are not destroying the look and feel of articles as important as character profiles to appease anime-only fans. I don't really think there is much else to say on the topic. Tinni  (Talk)  14:09, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

To add to the point here. Manga is the content created by Tite Kubo himself written and drawn. Now if there are those who dont like reading or can't bring themselves to read like most of fans here do. Then I think thats a bigger problem. Manga is the real content like it or not. It is the content by which the site is based on. Anime-only fans are really doing themselves a disservice with the amount of inconsistencies, inaccuracies and made up content by secondary parties that is infused throughout the manga based anime and anime only arcs. There in truth is no debate on this site between whether or not a manga or non-manga fan is getting a better bleach experience. Its commonly held that manga is the better experience, no question sd it is directly from the creator, using the terms he wants, portrayed the way he wants. Anything else is secondary. As far as im concerned as a user/fan/admin im not for anything provided upon this request as far as the other admin and users i cant speak for them but I suspect they might be with me on this. --Salubri (Talk)  14:26, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

To be honest i am much more of an anime fan than mamga in most regards. I have been watching anime since around 1992 when the only stuff i could get were videos of the major movies like fist of the north star and manga was nigh on impossible to find. However even though i undertsand the issue i think that Salubri's point holds true. the fact is that this site as stated is based on the "manga written and drawn by Tite Kubo". if anything it is an extra service to the anime that the anime only content and comparisions are made. Enough is mentioned when finding the site on google which says the site contains a plethora of spoilers. there has to be set lines drawn and no one will ever be happy if restrctions are imposed. Wolfwood (Shoot)  14:56, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Wow I never realised how sensitive an issue this is to you guys. I never suspected you would have to struggle so hard to hold back from saying "DrKaii you are a complete and utter idiot, *$"!# off". All you needed to do was say "no, this site is officially and specifically a manga wiki" and that would have been enough. I never expected two large, emotional, aggressive paragraphs about how stupid I am for not thinking exactly like you, and disgracing your precious wiki with my foolish request. Did you know that there are people who watch the anime first and then read the manga to make up any of the inconsistencies? Did you know that there are also people who are not loyal, die hard puppies of Tite Kubo who go rioting in the streets every time the Anime writers make a change or inconsistency, and are happy to just enjoy the Anime? Ok so I was wrong about this site, I never realised it was officially a Manga site, I wish I had. I never realised it was run by Anime-haters. I was also wrong thinking that it had a nicer, more friendly community. Thanks Wolfwood and Tomservo101 though, for being more understanding. Goodbye wiki. DrKaii 17:10, June 9 2010 (UTC)

Well since DrKali has decided to leave and so probably won't read any further responses, this seems a bit pointless but I must defend myself and the wiki against baseless attacks, so here goes. 1. I too watched the anime first and then moved on to the manga because the anime was behind and I am not the most patient person in the world. 2. I do not hate the anime. I like it a lot and defend it all the time. 3. This is not a "manga-only" wiki - if was we wouldn't have devoted so much space to the anime, including giving anime episodes their individual pages and having a project dedicated completing anime summaries. 4. This is a "Bleach Universe" wiki, which means we cover everything connected with Bleach to the best of our ability.
 * We do, however, treat that manga as the primary source and the anime as the secondary source of Bleach information. In addition, the response given here was no different then the response we give to manga-only fans who INSIST that the anime is not canon and me must either remove all mentions to anime-only content or otherwise mark the content as being not part of the official Bleach universe because Kubo's contribution is diluted. We are not here to appease manga-only fans. We are not here to appease anime-only fans. We cater to ALL Bleach fans. Since we are hated by both the manga-only crowd and the anime-only crowd, I think we are doing a good job. I hope that settles it. I am closing this discussion. Tinni   (Talk)  17:36, June 9, 2010 (UTC)