Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25606575-20141031223818

Ok so we know Zangetsu was "White Ichigo" now and the person formally known as Zangetsu was Yhwach from 1000 years ago and Ichigo's Quincy powers. From that I thought of a couple of things. First section is Ichigo's zanpakuto (soul society arc - reforge in 1000 year blood war) and the Second section is after reforge.

Since Zangetsu (White) is Ichigo's Shinigami and Hollow powers mixed, that should make the Old Man (Yhwach) Ichigo's Human and Quincy sides right? So doesn't that mean all of Ichigo's "hollow" powers come from his zanpakuto, as it is the manifestation of said powers? So if that's true, then the mask that's is suppose to make Ichigo a Visored is actually a zanpakto ability. The Old Man said he was always suppressing Zangetsu, so the evolution in Ichigo's mask would make sense if the Old Man lost more control over Zangetsu over time. The only time the Old Man wasn't suppressing Zangetsu was Ichigo's Fullbring form as he was not directly connected the badge to suppress it. So Ichigo's true Shikai form would actually look like his 2nd Shikai (in Fullbring arc) plus the Hollow mask. What also points to this is the form Zangetsu takes when he is Tensa Zangetsu. The real form was the one before the merge of Yhwach when they were training in the Dangai. So the form Ichigo uses to fight Ulquiorra is actually his true bankai (while still being suppressed by the old man). I'm guessing if it wasn't suppressed the bankai would be like a hybrid of the fan-dubbed "vasto lorde" form and the bankai from the Fullbring arc. Ichigo's Dangai training form was the only time he merge his quincy and shinigami forms. The reason I think the Dangai training form was a merge is simple. The merged form of Old man and Zangetsu trained him for this form. This is the only time the Old Man actually trains Ichigo. Also Ichigo loses his powers after using Final Getsuga Tensho form which is very similar to the Quincy technique "Letzt Stil". And before anyone ask if the new bankai will be the Final Getsuga Tensho form, no it won't as this Zangetsu was not formed from an Asauchi. Another thing that points to Ichigo using a merged form was Aizen saying that both of them were at such a level they were something completely different than a shinigami.

Ok so now Ichigo gets a real Zanpakuto (using an Asauchi), so in my eyes this is a completely different sword (still gets the abilities from the same sources tho). Supposedly his powers are completely merge. We've seen the Shikai and some say the long blade is Shinigami/hollow and the short blade is Quincy (idk if the manga said this or if thats just a fan made rumor). Since Ichigo doesnt have a mask in his shikai, I doubt hes gonna have one in bankai form (I still hope he does). Plus the last time Ichigo had a merged form was after the Dangai training and that form didnt have a mask. What I do believe is that the new bankai will have only one blade and have an absorbing ability. Most likely Ichigo himself will have longer hair too. Probably have a new Getsuga Tensho (like the shikai) but as for speed technique I dont know. Hes used Shunpo and sonido but I'm not sure if he would learn the Quincy skill "Hirenkyaku" already. Plus from how Ulquiorra was surprised from Ichigo's Sonido and not his Shunpo it seems Sonido is superior of the 3.

anyways thats just my thoughts on his forms 