Talk:Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck vs. Nnoitra Gilga

Move to Nelliel vs. Nnoitra
Had some free time to think at work today and my mind landed on this article - namely, how the name/image have never really sat right with me because Ichigo barely contributes anything other than getting beaten up severely/repeatedly and the focus is largely on Nelliel, since she can actually hold her own against Nnoitra. Hadn't spoken up on it before because it's not a huge deal, but since I've been revamping the fight/event articles it seems like time to reassess this one (in advance so I don't forget) and I realized that there's some precedent for removing Ichigo from the title so it can focus on Nelliel (though he'd still stay in the template as a supportive combatant): Ichigo Kurosaki vs. Ulquiorra Cifer: Final Fight, which was named Ichigo Kurosaki & Uryū Ishida vs. Ulquiorra Cifer until we determined that Uryū basically only being in the fight to get his hand cut off and Tensa Zangetsu shoved through his gut made his role too marginal to be worth mentioning in the title of an article about one of the most famous/memorable fights in the entire series.

So I'm proposing that we follow suit here and move this article to Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck vs. Nnoitra Gilga, with the image also changing from the oh-so-boring shot of them and Ichigo standing around to, y'know, them actually fighting (was thinking the shot of them with their blades at each other's throats instead, though I'm open to suggestions). Happy to make the necessary changes myself if it's agreed upon, but I'd like some consensus from others first. What do y'all think?--Xilinoc (talk) 03:11, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I think that's a great idea; both the name change and the infobox image change. Not only for the points you gave already, but I also think it's a bit of a disservice to Nelliel to have the one fight she participates in and establishes her power have her needlessly share the spotlight with Ichigo. But maybe that's just me. Timjer (talk) 10:38, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, agreed. Really don't need Ichigo included so prominently when 99.9% of it is Nel giving Nnoitra the business and getting denied her rightful win (but that's neither here nor there.)


 * Alright, made the move and all necessary changes. Appreciate the agreement and support.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:49, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Good job, Xil. One question though, is the page going to be rewritten as well, considering half the text still talks about Ichigo's "fight"? Also, on a related side-note, I looked and found a decent image of chapter 291 page 8 that could be used here. Perhaps if you could upload a colored version? I'll be on the lookout for more. Timjer (talk) 22:55, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'll definitely be rewriting this down the line, hopefully soon, to reflect that Ichigo's part of it but it's mainly about Nel. As for the image, don't worry about it for now - I'll be overhauling the ones used in this article along with the text. But I'll keep that particular frame in mind.--Xilinoc (talk) 23:14, 17 November 2021 (UTC)