Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner

The Translation Corner is a group of Bleach Wiki users who the task to translate the various names, abilities, techniques and etc. found in the Bleach Universe. Being that Bleach is a Japanese manga that use Japanese, Chinese, Indian, German, Spanish and English language in various instances and cases, the use of translators are a focal point to the continuation of accuracy on the wiki. All users should read our Translation Guidelines before you start translating.

Roles of the Translation Corner
The following are the duties of the corner:


 * 1. To assure the correctness of all translations that are presented on the site.


 * 2. To determine the outcome of Contentious Translations: If a translation is questioned at all, that should be brought up in this section. In this way a translator, committee member or admin can explain why the translation is used or conversation can take place for translations that are harder to classify.


 * 3. To determine the correct translation of Zanpakutō (names, release calls, etc.): This section is for requests for translation of zanpakuto and zanpakuto related translations.


 * 4. To determine the correct translation of Character and element (e.g. devices) names: This section is for requests for translation of characters/techniques/equipment and general key words.


 * 5. To determine the correct translation of General/Other translation issues (e.g. conjugation/miscellanea): This section is for requests about translations that don't fit any particular criteria such as conjugation or such things such as accents used in the names.

Associate Members

 * Adam Restling (Primary Japanese Translator)
 * MarqFJA (Secondary Japanese Translator)
 * Vraieesprit (Japanese to English Translation)

References & Sources

 * Kanji-to-English:
 * Tangorin
 * Mahou Kanji Dictionary
 * Kanji Networks
 * OldNihongo.J-Talk.Com
 * Basic Japanese verbal data: The imperative inflection of Japanese verbs

Associate Box
Ok folks I have finally gotten around to makeing the Associate Box. You can put it on your user page using the command. Below is what the box looks like. Tinni  (Talk)  14:37, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Translation Guidelines

 * Anyone doing any form of translation. Looking up on Google Translate or similar translation tools, is not translating. You are not doing the site any favors by doing amateur translation. Please refrain from using such tools.


 * This is not a conversation page. It is a simple question and answer page for translation. All conversations should be held on a particular user talk page or the talk page of this page.


 * Users should simply place their request and wait for it to be answered. To keep it simple, if the user posting the request has no real understanding of translation, the point is not for you to learn how to translate here. Usage of the page should extend no more then to asking for a translation to be done. Please refrain from badgering the translators for understanding on why a translation is translated a certain way. If you knew anything about translation you wouldn't be asking someone else to do it, therefore it makes no sense to argue with them.


 * If you are not a member of the translation corner, please do not answer translation questions. Leave it to our translators so as to avoid confusion.


 * Admin have the final say on the translation being placed into a article.

White Bone Hell and Blood Pond Hell
So, currently we're listing the two hot springs in the Kirinden as the White Bone Hell and the Blood Pond Hell. However, Cnet's translation, which is generally much more accurate, lists the White Bone Hell as the Skeletal Pit and the Blood Pond Hell as the Bloody Inferno. Would you mind taking a look at the kanji and determining what the proper translation would be? --Xilinoc (talk) 16:37, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * White Bone Hell - 白骨地獄, Hakkotsu Jigoku
 * Blood Pond Hell - 血の池地獄, Chi no Ike Jigoku

Thanks to Xilinoc for posting the Kanji. Based on those above Kanji, our current translations can stay. While hakkotsu is used to mean/translate "skeleton", it more lit. = "bare/white bone(s)", and what is a skeleton but a body's bones stripped bare? It's previously been used with more lit. intent in BLEACH in that ch. title during the Starrk/Kyouraku fight which was all about colors (via "Irooni"), 374: "Grey Wolf - Red Blood - Black Garb - White Bone" (灰狼・赤血・黒衣・白骨 Kairou - Sekketsu - Kokui - Hakkotsu).

The original Japanese, of course, suffers no such problems (more poetic or more literal?), as it can mean either of these things--the "trouble" (if there's any) then being a bit of ambiguity as to which is intended ... unless Kubo wanted both to be possible to add nuance, which seems plausible.

I suppose, though, that it then comes down to preference and consistency, this last being arrived at, maybe, by comparison with the similar nomenclature with "official" Hells, like the "black rope(s)/cord(s)" (Kokujou). This is similar to the way that chi no can be translated as "~ of blood" (rendering it lit. as noun + genitive particle) OR "blood(y) ~" (rendering it as the genitive particle no transforming the noun "blood" into an adjective, which is one of the functions of no).

Maybe I just lean more toward "White Bone" because of a combination of the above considerations and because we get a nice "syllabic synergy" with it comparing to the other one named: White - Bone, Blood - Pond XD. Adam Restling (talk) 09:42, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Wandenreich
According to a "origin questionable" (as probably not by Kubo, but by editors at Jump) release known as "The Dagger", which is a Bleach review page released by Weekly Shonen Jump, during Bleach Hiatus. The usage of the name Wandenreich was placed on the page in English. General Issue is we dont commonly go by the raw here and we dont go by content that Kubo himself didnt officially release and we dont know if he actually wrote any of this or if this is the opinion review from people at jump.--

Here's the Chinese scan, and the Japanese raw. It's printed clearly in English letters, and is consistent in pronunciation with the Japanese transliteration.

Could somebody please confirm that they look at that and see English letters which clearly spell "Wandenreich"? Thanks.Andrew Crichton (talk) 01:22, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Don't be afraid, everyone: I can see Wandenreich, too. XD

Well, while the exact "purity of extraction" (from Kubo, or, somehow, "only" JUMP) of † BLEACH The Dagger † may remain unclear, the situation, therefore, doesn't seem much different from that of the databooks and related material we took the other romanizations from--or, indeed, the Kubo-produced names and titles featured in the weekly vs. the volume chapters. The concept of "canon" has always been more elastic in BLEACH than we might like, even that canon we get from the author (!); from "You're a Shinigami and a--I mean, a human and a ...", Proyectil becoming Ola Azul, etc.

I'm really pleased we're getting so many (so-far) apparent "official" romanizations for these guys so early, compared to those we did for the Arrancar ... even if it's still not as early as I'd've hoped.

It makes me wonder, though: where did Kubo get the first element for this word Wandenreich? The closest word I can find in my dictionaries is Wand, which means "wall", "face (as of a wall, cliff, etc)", but is also used similarly for "partition, edge, precipice"; however, in a compound with it, we should prob. expect, rather, *Wandreich instead (although I agree that Wand en reich has a better cadence).

The underlying Japanese of Wandenreich, Miezaru Teikoku, do mean "unseen/invisible empire", but I suppose use of Wand "wall" or some derivative of it--if this is the origin of Wanden---could make sense, in the sense of "walled-off/sheltered (from sight)", the same way the Arabic jinnī ("invisible [spirit]", the source of English genie) is held to derive from the Semitic root gnn "cover, surround".

P.S. Based on the parallel spellings Wandenreich and below (split into two columns for concerns of space) as Wanden reich, this would seem to suggest a similar treatment for Sternritter--i.e., that we should prob. spell them, respectively, as Wandenreich, Sternritter (and I think we still spell the latter as two words, *Stern Ritter, on this Wiki--but I can't quite remember). Seemed appropriate to just briefly bring that up here. :) Adam Restling (talk) 10:22, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Stern Ritter
In the same publication there is a page on stern ritter that we basically need to know what the page itself says. The raw can be found here: http://24.media.tumblr.com/bf17e96b9e156ad74196826518500c47/tumblr_mqjahg5aFQ1risqr3o1_500.png --

Cang Du
Apparently this guy has both kana and Chinese characters given for his name. Not entirely sure if they are correct, but these are what someone tried to put in: 蒼都 (ツアン·トウ)

Here's the relevant RAW. -- Mohrpheus  (Talk)  07:12, July 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ack, doesn't allow hotlinking. Mohrpheus   (Talk)  01:41, July 2, 2013 (UTC)

Cang Du (蒼都) seems to tap good old Mandarin Chinese, whence the superscript (furigana) katakana reading Tsan Tu (ツァン·トゥ), approximating the Mandarin pronunciation [tsʰang tu]--the Japanese pronunciation of the Kanji would be Sou To or the like. Note the small ァ (a) and ゥ (u), compared to the approximations above.

Because of the interpunct ( • ) between them, it's probable, in that ol' Eastern order, that Cang is his surname, and Du his given name (whether this ever comes up is uncertain ;) ). 都 can mean "capitol, metropolis"; "(the) all, whole" (? < "capital amount")"; or "fine, elegant" (? < "metropolitan"). 蒼 is "blue" or "pale" again (it turns up here and there in other BLEACH names/terms). Adam Restling (talk) 05:28, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Stern Ritter Titles
Looking at the previous request for Quilge's epithet, it strikes me that all the Schrift for the Stern Ritter are done just like the Arrancar's Zanpakuto names are. Could we have the romanji and translations for the kanji?

Quilge - 監獄 Driscoll - 大量虐殺 Loyd/Royd - 貴方自身 Berenice - 異議 Jerome - 咆哮

-- Mohrpheus  (Talk)  23:58, July 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * You menat like that ?

or also like that :

Mad6 (talk) 10:04, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, Mad really went the whole nine yards giving us all that info, thanks :)!

I don't have all the raws to help with these--and those I do are often more blurry than is helpful when it comes to the furigana--but, from what I *think* I can see, the above seem correct.

All that's really left to me, then, seems to be a couple of notes, which may only be worthwhile to myself XD: 大量虐殺 "massacre, genocide" (as Mad noted) is more lit. "great amount" + "atrocity" (< "oppress" + "kill")--that's fun; 貴方自身 "yourself" specifically combines 貴方 "you" (polite) + 自身 "(one's) self". Interesting usages to note. Adam Restling (talk) 11:52, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Geh Geh Geh
Well, the distinctive laughter (usually One Piece's schtick) seems to imply that the character in this panel and this panel are the same guy. The kana look just a tad different, so could someone confirm whether they are indeed identical? Mohrpheus  (Talk)  03:02, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Kana is the same (ゲッゲッゲッ), just different fonts. — ЖенёqSig.png 13:26, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Kūkaku's Cannon Chant
I have decided to ask this here, not sure how it works but a user asked about Kūkaku's Cannon Chant and list the reference as from Chapter 84, pgs 6-10. He also quoted it as "Red Bronze desire demands 36 degrees of adjustment..13 pairs of whistle..72 pairs of shade,..The ape's right hand grabs the star..embracing 25 suns, the cradle of sand is bleeding, Kagizaki" so I guess I would like to know if this is correct??

Japanese and Spanish/German Translations
I've noticed quite a few translations around this wiki either 1. having the translation for only one language when there are two involved, 2. claiming both the Japanese and other language translation mean the same thing, or 3. missing a translation when there are kanji present. I'd appreciate it if someone could look over them and confirm and/or expand upon their translations.

Here are the terms with the kanji, katakana, romanji, current translation, and what other language there could be a translation for: (possible German translation, or maybe a proper Japanese one, since Invisible Empire seems like the German words Vanden and Reich together) Thank you in advance.--Xilinoc (talk) 05:55, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * (note: even though this has a translation for both languages, someone from outside the corner translated the Japanese meaning, and I'd like confirmation from a corner member)
 * (possible German/Hebrew translation)
 * (possible German/Hebrew translation)
 * (possible Spanish translation)
 * (since there's no kanji, I'm doubting this one has a Japanese translation)
 * (possible Spanish translation)
 * (possible Japanese translation)
 * (possible Spanish translation)
 * (possible Japanese translation)