Bleach Wiki talk:Image Gallery/Archive1

Starrk
Do we have any support to changing Starrk's profile pic? I don't really have anything to offer at the moment but there is probably more Starrk pics to out there now then ever before. Tinni  (Talk)  12:46, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I have these three images from episode 276. I'll leave it to you guys to decide whether you want to use them and which one you think is better. Shiro Spiker II 09:01, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Option A and B actually look pretty good. I'll have to put my vote for A, but either one would work. Starrk is releasing in the anime soon, so these may be the last good shots we ever get. We'll see though. Mohrpheus 19:18, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

They're pretty good shots but I don't think they'd work because neither is facing the viewer. I haven't watched the episode, when I have the time to do so I'll see if I can find any shot. Of the two, A would be better, if I had to pick, but I'm not placing any votes yet. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  19:21, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

New shot from Ep274 added. I feel the 276 ones are not a great option due to Starrk being twisted in the pictures. For me it is between the current pic and 274 and I vote for 274 as being the best of these options. Yyp (Talk) 14:35, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'm voting for 274 as well. I like the old pic, and some of the 276 ones are pretty decent, but the Episode 274 pic is the best option, IMO, as it has him standing up and perfectly facing the camera. Arrancar109 (Talk)  15:53, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

His expression looks a tad awkward in my opinion, but it is better qualified than the two 276 variations. For the sake of policy, I'll vote for 274 as well. Seeing as Starrk is releasing soon, I hope we can get a better shot before that time comes. Mohrpheus 06:52, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

From the current options, I too believe 274 is the best suited due to the angle and all. Not to mention that the 276 A and B don't show his mask fragments and C is too zoomed out. I also like the current picture, even if the angle is odd, it shows a bit of Starrk's personality, if you get what I mean. I still hope we can get some more options from 277 before he releases Lia Schiffer   (Talk)  07:28, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

We won't be getting any from future episodes. This is from 277. Yyp (Talk) 12:36, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I like the one from 277 the best. It conforms to all our requirements AND Starrk does't have a stupid look on his face like he does with 274. Tinni  (Talk)  12:50, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I've got another picture from episode 277 even if it's not much compared to the other picture Yyp uploaded. Shiro Spiker II 13:34, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Perfect! Excellent improvements over the 274 picture. Both 277 pics look good, so it's a little hard for me to decide. I'll go with Yyp's though, since it's a little closer up. Mohrpheus 17:01, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The one I like best is 277B. A proper mugshot should always be full frontal, and in the one in 274 he looks like he just swallowed a fly. WD  Talk to me  21:19, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. 277B for me. TomServo101 (Talk)  21:30, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I prefer 277A myself. 277B is a bit blurry. Tinni  (Talk)  08:47, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I have to agree with Tinni 277A is the best.277B is blurry and a little zoomed out and 277A gives us a better focus on his face.GrimGhost 04:31, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ok so it's 227A for Me, Mohrheus and GrimGhost. 227B for TomServo101 and Weedefinition. I'll declare 227A the winner for now but I'll leave the discussion for a little while longer. Tinni  (Talk)  04:50, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Well, since it seems that the change is inevitable, I'd vote for 277B, out of the two 277 options, the A version seems a little dorky for me, I'm not a real fan of the drawing, I can't exactly point out what, but there's something bothering me about it. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  05:08, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

277A wins with 5 votes (including myself) to 3 for B. Change has been made. Yyp (Talk) 22:56, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yachiru
Not the best shot really but it is the only one available for her new look.--

I added another picture, I hope that's okay. I know it's not much different but I think she looks slightly more calm in the new pic Oneechanx3 (talk) 22:59, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Kenpachi Zaraki
Kenpachi's profile pic is outdated and technically does not meet the requirements for a profile pic since he is battle worn. His face was not shown in the light so here is all I could find.--

Ill go for this change its been long time coming. This is also the best this option is gonna get.--Salubri (Talk)  02:01, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Go with this one for now until we get something better. My only problem is that we have some of Giriko (I think) in the shot, and perhaps we can edit him out using photoshop. -- 03:26, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, unless we want to crop out the ends of Kenpachi's hair (which is kind of important since they lack bells now), Tsukishima's arm has to stay. No real way to remove it.--

There might be a way for me to keep the hair in unaltered, I can see what I can do. -- 03:55, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

I was able to fix it up a bit in photoshop, sorry I gave the file a stupid name. So, what do you guys think? -- 02:37, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

-It's a really good fix and it's the anime version of Kenpachi's new look.Hay Jing Tsang (talk) 12:31, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Aizen
I think the new one is better because you can see more of Aizens face and Aizen looks better there for someone who konws better quality: Episode: 292 Time: 00:20:48 °Aizen° (talk) 17:23, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with Aizen's current profile pic. There is no reason to change it--God (Pray)  19:05, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

For the umpteenth time, there is no reason to change Aizen's current profile pic, the one we have is fine, the quality if perfect and there's nothing wrong with it. People should try and search for candidates for other characters that do need a new pic like Renji or Keigo instead on pushing on the Aizen matter, it does not need changing. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  19:19, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Aizen
the current one is horrible how about this one? --RexGodwin 15:02, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * You are going to have to explain what is so horrible about the current 1.09MB high quality image that you want to replace it with a 234 KB medium quality, at best, image that is marred by shadows. Tinni   (Talk)  15:12, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

sorry, that was a lil rude. i just mean the face. i mean look at it; it looks so off. besides this one has better animation and is facing the camera moreso. the shadows don't detract too much, and who cares about the size too much? it is a high quality pic.--RexGodwin 15:43, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

There is absolutely nothing high quality about these shots and Option B is just deformed. My vote is against both these pictures. I am not against changing the current pictures, I can see how Aizen's look in the current picture might be a little too "mean". But we can honestly do better. Tinni  (Talk)  16:04, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Option B is terribly distorted and would not even be considered, while the other is not an improvement on the current one, imo. Second, those images break the Bleach Wiki:Image Policy as they do not have and  templates attached to them. Thus they cannot be used as profile images. Please familiarize yourself with the policy (which has recently been updated) before proposing any more pictures. 16:06, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

I like the current one. It is a perfect look for Aizen and is a very high quality image. The proposed replacements are not any good--God (Pray)  22:35, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, if there is no desire to change Aizen's picture, except from RexGodwin, then let's just drop the subject until we get anime shots of mullet-Aizen or as I like to call him bogan-Aizen. Tinni  (Talk)  08:23, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Possible replacement for Aizen's profile pic. I didn't place it but thats what it was listed for in a incorrect area. --Salubri (Talk)  04:45, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I vote no, something is... off about it. I just don't like it--God (Pray)  03:53, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think it could work because it shows off the mysterious feeling that Aizen gives off. The current one just shows off his face while this one shows a bit more of his body. --Hammer Bro. Mike (talk) 04:07, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

The eyes are off, blurry and horrible. I don't see a problem with the current picture, seriously. Some characters need change (Tosen, for example) and some characters don't. Aizen's picture is from FKT, even if it's from last year (if I recall correctly), it depicts Aizen's usual expression perfectly and the drawing is just perfect (and I'm always complaining about the drawing, so that's quite something). Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  04:56, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. It is certainly not better than the current one. And I don't think Aizen's pic needs to be changed. 17:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Another possible replacement for Aizen's current picture from the recent episode. The quality might not be as good but I think it's a decent looking picture of Aizen and I kind of like the slight angle he's on but that's just me. There are really no shadows that would make Aizen look off at all. Just a possible idea is all. Hammer Bro. Mike (talk) 00:06, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

The point of changing a profile picture to bring it up to standards and meet our policies. There is nothing wrong with Aizen's picture.--God (Pray)  00:09, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I see no point in changing this. 21:29, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Once again, there is no support for changing Aizen's profile. I say we close this and merge it with the other failed discussion on Aizen's profile change that's currently sitting in the archive. Tinni  (Talk)  14:09, October 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I second that WD   Talk to me  16:50, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Aizen
File:Aizenhollowfying.png It might be just me... but his current photo seems a bit stale. Even though this one isn't front facing, it does fill the other criteria, and would compliment his profile nicely. Wouldn't you all agree?Breakingspell (talk) 23:08, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

You said it yourself. This violates one of the requirements. Aizen already has a perfect profile picture. It will not be changing--<font color="#660066" face="Verdana">God <font color="#660066" face="Verdana">(Pray)  23:10, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Aizen Transformed State
Probably not a huge issue, but I found two pics we could use for Aizen's transformation from Episode 301. Tinni uploaded one and I've uploaded the other. These are the two best shots presented from the episode. While I think we need a full-body shot of him in this form, it is just my personal opinion. Besides, there wasn't a good shot of it in this episode anyway. I think these images will work, but I wanted to see what people thought before we made the change. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  19:39, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

If anything, the first one should replace the manga image of when he changes to this state and the second one should replace the image under transformations. Hammer Bro. Mike (talk) 19:46, December 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah, yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, I think we can use both then. I'll go ahead and close this, but if a full-body shot becomes available, I'll consider reopening the topic. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  20:21, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Aizen: Third Form
Alright, we need an anime image of Aizen's 3rd form to replace the manga pic. We have 2 potential candidates so far: One from Episode 307, and one from Episode 308. Both are good shots and have a Fair Use rationale attached to them, but I'm going to have to vote for the Episode 308 one since the Episode 307 one has Aizen covered in purple energy, which distorts his natural appearance. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  20:03, February 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd go for the 308 one for the same reason. In fact that's why I did not add it to Aizen's article last week, in the hope that we'd get something better this week. 20:13, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Im in agreement on this 308 seems good enough. --<font color="00A86B" size="2px">Salubri <font color="00A86B" size="2px">(Talk)  01:26, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think there's much to discuss, though the 307 has the original shape of his wings, the purple light makes it rather unusable, so I'd say 308 is the best option Lia Schiffer   (Talk)  18:05, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Episode 308 by far. We usually go 1:1 from manga to anime, but given the lighting, it's just not possible here. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  18:09, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Change made 13:58, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Aizen:Fourth Form
I am not sure if anyone would be in support of this but the shot I was able to get of the anime equivalent of the manga shot we have for Aizen's fourth form to be not great. It is very busy with the blood and the wind. I searched for a better shot but that is all there is. I got this second shot later in the episode. It shows his full form but the only problem is that Ichigo's sword is in it. I think the second shot is a little better but I am curious what other would want to do.--<font color="#660066" face="Verdana">God <font color="#660066" face="Verdana">(Pray)  18:27, February 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think "Full Body Shot" works much, much, much better. 21:48, February 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yea I think we can go with the "Full Body Shot". --<font color="00A86B" size="2px">Salubri <font color="00A86B" size="2px">(Talk)  00:48, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Mashiro
Since episode 278 had such great Vizard mug-shots, I think it's about time we went through and changed vizards profiles, most of whom are quite terrible and violates are image policies. Mashiro's current pic can really do with an upgrade. Tinni  (Talk)  17:47, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Following on the from the conversation on Kensai's talk page I trimmed the picture to get rid of the black shade line and with that gone, I think this is a vast improvement on the old profile pic and have therefore changed it. But please an eye out in the upcoming episodes for something better. Just remember that we can't use images with facial wounds, sweat etc. Tinni   (Talk)  02:41, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

The body positioning is a bit awkward, but I'm doubtful that we'll get anything else less awkward as she is pretty much full time mask from ehre on until Wonderweiss smashes her in the face and I can't see there being a good angle in that scene. 10:19, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Mashiro Lieutenant Pic
I've been thinking for a bit that Mashiro's current lieutenant image seems a bit cartoonish. I know she acts like that almost all the time, but I think it's important to display her normal facial features instead of a more cartoonish one. I took this screenshot from Episode 209, which actually happens just a few frames before the current image. Anyway, I think this would be a more suitable image for Mashiro's image in her History section than the current one. Any thoughts guys? <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  06:36, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

I've had the same concern as you about that picture, I think the proposed change is good except for the fact that the glasses are missing, which is one of the main traits of her outfit during the Pendulum arc. Maybe we could do without them, I don't know. I think we could look out for another shot with the glasses visible and that doesn't look so cartoonish Lia Schiffer   (Talk)  06:56, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... I didn't notice that at first. Thanks for pointing that out Lia. I've uploaded another pic. Facing the camera directly isn't a necessity for History pics. Furthermore, we don't necessarily need an up-close pic of her in her lieutenant uniform, but we need something suitable to distinguish her features enough. I've found 2 other shots. I think B is a potential candidate. C would work if we could get the RAW version of it; the sub that I downloaded didn't have an opportunity in this scene for us to use it, so if anyone could get a better version of C without the subs, I think that would be our best shot. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  07:09, July 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Found one more. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  07:19, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that we should get rid of the cartoonish one. Options B & D are both good. Either will do imo. 10:56, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'm more into B, I think D looks like a kitten? B looks more natural. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  05:44, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think B is the best. Its a good shot--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  05:51, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Option B shows her sunglasses and since the purpose of the shot is to show her general appearance and not minute details of her face, which is the profile pic is for, I think Option B is the best. Tinni  (Talk)  08:23, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Since option B is clearly the most preferable, I'll go ahead and put it up. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  18:29, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Gin
Alright, it was always understood that Gin's current profile image was a placeholder until we got something better. This shot from episode 280 is pretty good IMO. He has his smile, he has is eyes close, he has his silver hair and he's looking down on us like a smug fox-faced son of a bitch he is! It's perfect! *sigh* Gin.... Tinni  (Talk)  14:13, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

It might not be facing the camera, but its the best we have for a while till Gin actually starts fighting. so ill vouch for 280. :D--RexGodwin 16:22, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I am pretty sure Gin's pose counts as facing the camera. See, it's all to do with the eye (closed or not). Which way is the eye looking. If the eye is looking mostly towards the viewer, then it counts as facing the camera. If the eye is looking off to the side, then no - it doesn't count towards facing the camera. In this case, Gin is looking down at the viewer but he is definitely looking at the viewer. Thus counts as facing the camera. Tinni   (Talk)  16:27, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ok its unamimous then. shall we replace the current one? (man, i cant believe its been this long to actually get a good shot of Ichimaru.. infact, theyre really arent many good anime shots of him in his latest costume are there?)--RexGodwin 16:36, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Two people is not unanimous. Let's give it a while so other people can comment. 20:51, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should keep this conversation going but given that the picture from episode 280 is vastly, vastly superior to the current pic, I think we should make the change now and if something comes up better down the line, then we can change it again In fact, I think I'll do that since no one has objected to the pic from episode 280. Tinni  (Talk)  03:23, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm for the change. Both images are good, but the lighting on the old pic is off (given how dark Hueco Mundo is). I don't think there's anything better right now, but if it comes up, it'll likely end up here. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  04:30, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ichimaru
The current picture is from a different angle, from the bottom. My suggestion is probably better, because at 307 Gin episode is shown from the front, so you can see the full face. --<font color="blue" size="2px">Alzanino <font color="4169E1" size="2px"> (Zapytaj)  17:22, April 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think the proposed new picture shows anything more than the current one. I say leave it as it is. 19:58, April 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * The current one is fine. The only difference between the two is the angle which does not really matter.--


 * I, too, prefer the current picture!! His expression is a little off in the proposed picture so I vote to leave it as it is!! SunXia   (Chat)  23:34, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hirako
Since episode 278 had such great Vizard mug-shots, I think it's about time we went through and changed vizards profiles, most of whom are quite terrible and violates are image policies. Shinji's current one isn't bad but the quality of the 278 image is better IMO. Tinni  (Talk)  18:20, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

You are killing me! I love both! I think the current one is gorgeous, I don't see any problem with it at all. But 278 is amazing and it has Shinji-ness dripping from every pixel. The only problem I have with it is that it's so zoomed out, so you don't see the face details (not that he has many), but I still like it as it is. Though a close-up to that scene with the same expression would be lovely and I'd probably give it my vote right away. Because we're not getting any Shinji picture after Tosen cuts his forehead/eyebrow (unless the anime pulls the same trick of the vanishing/unvanishing wound). Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  06:00, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I found this one near the end of 278, and it isn't as zoomed out though the head is cropped which bothers me. The PV showed a very pretty scene of Shinji with his hat on that promised to give some decent shots if these don't work. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  07:38, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I think the current one is better than both of these options. Having the hat in the picture would be a nice bonus, but "Proposed change from episode 278" is too zoomed out and has Hachi in the background. Will keep an eye out for more options over the next couple of weeks, but I'm happy with the current picture remaining. 10:15, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Since someone is going to bring it up, here is a pic of Hirako from ep279 with the hat. I still prefer the current picture. 16:12, July 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I support hat Shinji pic. Tinni   (Talk)  01:25, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am with Tinni on this one. Hat and Blade Shinji ftw--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  20:04, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I prefer the current one to the hat one. I like the drawing better, even if it doesn't have his usual smile. I wonder if the anime is going to make that cut above his eye disappear just like the manga did, because if it doesn't then we're not going to get any more shots. Lia Schiffer   (Talk)  06:38, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

3 (Yyp, me and Godisme) to 1 (Lia), hat + sword Shinji wins. Plus as his facial wound now renders any further shots of him impossible. I am closing this discussion. Tinni  (Talk)  16:29, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Erm, check again Tinni. My vote was for the current picture to remain. That means it is 2-2 for the current & "hat & blade" pictures. This stays open until more people cast a vote on it. 20:51, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

If we change it, I'm for the 278 mugshot; otherwise, I'm fine with the current pic with the way it is. I know Shinji wears that hat a lot, but I think it's better to show an image of him without it on his head. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  21:23, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Hachi
Since episode 278 had such great Vizard mug-shots, I think it's about time we went through and changed vizards profiles, most of whom are quite terrible and violates are image policies. Hachi's current one isn't bad but the quality of the 278 image is better IMO. Tinni  (Talk)  17:25, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I just trimmed the image to get rid of the black shading that was raising some objections and I really think that this image now is vast improvement on the current one. Tinni  (Talk)  03:28, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

The pic isn't bad, and it's good that those horrible shades are gone but I don't think it's that much of an improvement because it's way too zoomed out IMO and his head looks too tiny. Let's not give up on 279, we might not get much of a chance, but we might still get some good shots. Even if we don't, in Hacchi's case, he didn't get injuries in his face during his fight until the very end, so even if we may have to wait a little longer we might get some better chance to have a nice shot. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  05:30, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

"Episode 278 Option 2" is fine. Option 1 is too zoomed out. But we should keep an eye out for future episodes. Hachi's image is not so bad that it needs to be rushed. 09:28, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, 278 Option 2 is way better, I could almost vote for it. But I also agree that Hacchi is one of those that is not in desperate need of a new picture, so we can take our time and see if future episodes bring out other options. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  09:36, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well we waited for something better but it didn't materialise. But everybody seemed to think Episode 278 Option 2 was pretty good. Shall we change to that one then? Tinni  (Talk)  13:17, August 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with this. Since nobody has voiced any objections, I'll make the change now. 16:27, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Tōshirō Hitsugaya
The anime did pretty well with Hitsugaya's new look, here are the two best ones I found.--

Definately option 1. I doubt we will get better lighting for a while, and not many close ups, unless the battle with Yukio will say otherwise. Roydon Namikaze (Talk) 11:51, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Kensei
Since episode 278 had such great Vizard mug-shots, I think it's about time we went through and changed vizards profiles, most of whom are quite terrible and violates are image policies. Kensei's current profile violates our policy by not facing the came, being side on etc, etc. As such, this profile change is high priority. Tinni  (Talk)  17:40, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

At best, I think this (and some of the others) would only be a good temporary pic until a better one is available. The next couple of episodes will have many of the Vizards displayed, so we may get better options. Seriously, we need something without those shaded borders, as it makes the image look strange for any profile image. If there's nothing better available in the future, then we can probably stick with these permanently. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  20:38, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't really think that's a big deal. Because in most cases, the shaded borders can be cut out. I think for now, I'll change the worst of the offending profile images: Kensai, Rose, Love and Mashiro. Hachi, Shinji and Hiyori can wait and I Lisa didn't get a good shot in episode 278 anyway. O and yes, I'll cut out the shading. ^.^ Tinni   (Talk)  02:12, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

There! Trimmed it doesn't look too bad. Although Love, Rose and Mashiro came out the best with zero sign of the shading. Tinni  (Talk)  02:37, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Im questioning all these images. As Arrancar109 pointed out they seem temp placeholders to later pics in the up coming weeks. The biggest issue is that i feel like i have to watch every upload made cause of the image gallery. Not only to categorize the images and gifs but to determine what has no purpose and should just be deleted. Any uploads not of official use make the job more impossible then it already seems as this is all new.--<font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  02:56, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * I fail to see what you are getting at. The Vizard profile pictures were atrocious and now they are not. The images I uploaded are not not without purpose and are for official use as profile images. There is zero evidence that we are going to get any suitable images in upcoming weeks given that the Vizards will engage in battle pretty much starting next week. Indeed, aside from the first five or so minutes of next weeks episode, the Vizards will spend most of the time with masks on next week and after that it'll be questionable if we can get profile images without facial wounds. In addition, while the trim on Kensai's image did leave some black shading, I would like to know what fault there is now with Love, Rose or Mashiro's profile pics considering Arrancar109's only objection was the shaded borders and those could be cut cleanly away for most of these images. There is no issue here. Tinni   (Talk)  03:19, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

You've made your point im making mine. Doing the image gallery is a large job and i question if these pics taking from a single shot are good enough in general compared to single featured ones. If better ones present themselves it will be a pointless issue. The overall issue is the image project as we have discussed from now on any upload is gonna be questioned under the new guidelines for images soon to be set up. There is zero evidence that we will keep them, which should be kept in mind as the anime tends to flesh things out we may have better opportunities, which will be taken into consideration if presented. For the purpose of being plain im not so much concerned about the Vizard pics but pictures on this site in general. There are a whole number of the same picture uploaded just cluttering up the database and totally unused and then they become lost images for the next month or couple of years. I have found plenty in the last couple of days. Hence if they aren't deleted they need to be addressed to someone so they can be instead of just lingering in limbo. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  03:37, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you are making a general point, then surely it's time to move this discussion to the forums. In addition, I would like to point out that the images uploaded for profile image discussions have always been better managed then other pictures as once a decision is made, it is easy to go through and delete rejected images. So seriously, stop hijaking this thread already! If you have no objection to Kensei's image other then "something better might come-up", well let's resume this discussion when something better comes up. Tinni   (Talk)  04:03, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'm really not into this pic and while I get Tinni's point in that the Vizards are getting into battle pretty soon next episode, this picture is not an improvement compared to the previous one IMO. It's way off in angle, the previous at least had some sense of facing forward, it was just his eyes facing to the ground. Even if the shading was cropped in this new pic, it's still very noticeable and definitely not good. I'm just not into it. I'd again say we wait 'til next week before doing changes because I really don't feel they're all that necessary. That's my opinion though. -- Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  05:16, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see this picture as being better than the old one at all. Love & Rose's are definitely an improvement and Masihro's is alright. But I cannot agree with this one as Kensei's profile pic. Black shading like that should not be on a profile picture and it is very distracting. It is a bad picture and should not be used imo. I really hope there are better ones in the future, or during the Vizard training of Ichigo, as neither of those pictures are good enough. 10:18, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... since everybody but me seem to not like the 278 pic. I have restored the old pic and that'll remain until and unless we find something better. The preview of 279 points to at least one or two shots of Kensei from the next episode. So here's hoping they'll be good enough. Tinni  (Talk)  10:40, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Heres a (potential?) option--RexGodwin 15:53, July 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Violates facing the camera rule. Tinni   (Talk)  16:06, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Ok folks, this is it. Kensei disappears from the anime now, never to be seen again! :( So we must now make a choice! I vote for Option D. He's facing the camera and it has his full head and shoulder. It's not the typical Kensei pose but the typical Kensei pose is actually side on and the best example of that is actually Option C, which I am happy to go with as well. But Option D meets all our typical profile image requirements. Tinni   (Talk)  12:55, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Option D seems good. I wouldn't rule out Kensei appearing in future episodes in filler scenes to pad out the episodes, but he would have his Bankai visible in any pics from such scenes, so any picture will have to be from this or previous episodes. 20:40, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

As much as Option D meets our usual requirements, I can't help but speak up about how low the drawing quality is. A child could've done better in my opinion. If it's between any of these options and the current picture, I'd vote for the current picture. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  23:19, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I have to agree with Lia, that doesnt look like Kensei, of the current crop, I really like E. However I know their are better pictures to be had from this episode. I would get them myself but stupid HP cannot seem to figure out why I can't take screenshots. So I vote E unless a better pic comes along--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  00:01, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I expected more from that episode for Kensei, it was a really hard episode to obtain a great profile picture, a out of those shown, I prefer Option C But I've added two pictures here from that episode, really the only two I could get and one is only a cropped version but here, they might be better!! SunXia (talk) 03:21, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is what I mean by, Kensei's normal pose is "side on". Kensei looks absolutely ridiculous facing forward and you can tell the anime studio really struggled with it this episode. Kensei's most awesome shots from the last episode was when he was a little side on and in the middle of combat. But that introduced awkward body contortions, like the intrusion of Kensei's hand in option E. To me, the most "Kensei" of the current selections is Option C or Option E. Even the current image is a distortion as to me at least, Kensei looks younger then he actually is. Anyway, below how the votes are tallying right now. Tinni  (Talk)  04:00, August 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Option C: Me, SunXia
 * Option D: Me, Yyp - Lia totally against
 * Option E: Godisme

I'm gonna throw my support towards option C. In all honesty, Kensei's head is ridiculously symmetrical, hairstyle, face, and all. Because of this, those frontal shots look plain ridiculous, and make his head look tiny for some reason (the lack of depth doesn't help either). In option C, he is at least looking towards the "camera," plus it gives us a nice close up of his ear rings. Not to mention that it has the typical Kensei expression. It still doesn't fit the policy to the letter, but the current picture violates it in almost every way possible. Mohrpheus (talk) 04:06, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I could go for C, I still like E the best but C could work. I have to super strongly oppose D though, it looks utterly ridiculous--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  04:08, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, if there are no objections, C it is. Final vote count for Option C was me, SunXia, Mohrpheus and Godisme. 16:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hiyori
Since episode 278 had such great Vizard mug-shots, I think it's about time we went through and changed vizards profiles, most of whom are quite terrible and violates are image policies. Hiyori's current one isn't bad but the quality of the 278 image is better IMO. Tinni  (Talk)  18:25, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't go for this one. I'd say we wait for future eps, because the current pic isn't a disaster, it's quite good in my opinion and doesn't violate any of our policies, so Hiyori isn't really in desperate need of change, and the pic from 278 is facing away from the camera, has a very odd expression and those shadows aren't looking good in any way. Even if cropped, they'd take away a significant portion of the image (one of the pigtails at least) so I really don't think this is an option. I'd say we wait for 279. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  05:04, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hiyori current pic needs to change but we are in no hurry. We'll take our time with her (and Shinji for that matter). Tinni   (Talk)  05:35, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

The 278 picture certainly is not better. It is rather poor in fact (aside from the blackness, she is not even facing forward like she is in the current picture). This is a bad image to use, so I say leave it until we get something better from later episodes. And if there is nothing better, then my vote is to keep the current one. 08:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Some more from episode 285. 21:28, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I like Ep285 C. It's really captures her perpetually angry expression. Tinni  (Talk)  21:43, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Tinni, 285 C is a very good shot. It is a true expression of Hiyori--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  01:24, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Just firing in my two cents, I love Option C as well from Eppy 285, it's a great picture and doesn't show Hiyori as tired as she in the current picture, shows her more feisty side!! SunXia (talk) 03:04, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, if there is no objects, option C it is. I wish we could have agreed on a image change for Shinji. Now he's going to be the only vizard with a seriously old and sad looking profile. I mean, the anime has introduced a more vivid colour palette but Shinji's pic is still has that sad and tired colour palette. But I suppose the same is true of Kenpachi, Yachiru and anyone else who doesn't have a picture from HD episodes. Tinni  (Talk)  16:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Harribel
I really think Tia needs a new profile pic, as her current one is terrible, especially for a member of the Espada.

I have no experience finding appropriate images and so I think that Tinni, who I heard from Godisme is very talented a making good profile pictures, or one of the other experience users should try and find a more appropriate picture. TotalDrama22121. When worlds collide...it's dramatic. 16:31, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

As you can see from Harribel's talk page, there was quite a lengthy search for a new profile picture. It was generally agreed upon that the picture needed to be of her base form, and a shot that follows the policy and focuses on her head. I agree that the quality of the picture is bad, but unless some new shots are proposed, there's nothing to replace it with. Mohrpheus (talk) 20:49, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

This is pretty much the problem. Her teeth thing is not very flattering. As a result many of her fans have complained about her profile picture before. Below, I have copied objections from August that was on her talk page. People really hate the teeth. She is a bit of odd one out in that she had her face obstructed with her jacket for about 39.5% of the time she was live and in reserrection for the remaining 59.4%. Her jacketless teeth thing was for 0.1% of the time. Just a few panels. However, last time it came up for discussion, all the admins objected to a released image. So unless they have changed their minds... Tinni  (Talk)  00:33, September 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I saw this discussion coming back from miles away, so I might as well put my two cents in. I have not changed my mind. I still feel that Harribel needs to be portrayed in her base form, as all of the other Espada are. I personally don't care if it's with her jacket collar or not, but even if she was portrayed more with released state, I still feel her base form is more important to portray as a profile image than the form she only took during her one fight with the Squad 10 captain. I'm not opposed to a high-quality replacement, but I am opposed to a release form pic as her profile pic. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  00:42, September 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * The problem is not that people don't like the teeth, the problem is that the current pic is very low quality. Tinni, you are always very good at getting high quality shots, could you see if you could get a higher quality version of the same picture--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  00:36, September 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you think that'll help, here's my best shot. Tinni   (Talk)  01:49, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

OMG. Her picture is just horrible. Couldn't you guys get a more high-quality picture than this? I am a Harribel fan but ever since she appeared on the anime, I was hoping she can get a better drawing. I will find a new picture for her primary picture and I do hope that you guys, especially the admins, will agree with me. Sorry. I just can't stand this. I mean, she already have a bad anime-drawn Resureccion, I don't want her profile pic to be worse.Agate genbu (talk) 16:10, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

its nothing to go crazy over, but i agree, the pic is low quality and needs to be replaced. - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 09:00, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I went ahead and updated the pic with Tinni's higher quality version. Noticeably better, that's for sure. Mohrpheus (talk) 02:05, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well I always opposed the change of her previous pic, since I've always said the anime crew messed up the drawing of the teeth. It's not that the teeth are bad per-say, if you see the manga they look quite amazing, but the anime adaptation is terribly done. The new higher quality pic is not that better. As much as it is higher quality, I think the picture in itself looks even worse than the previous low quality one, due to the position of the bangs on her face. It may be a small thing, but personally, I think it affects the picture terribly. If I had to make a suggestion, I'd go back to the first picture, the one with her jacket on as a profile picture, both because it's higher quality, it's better drawn, she looks better, and she spends more time like that than without her jacket, and leave the jacket-less one in her appeareance section. Of course, I know there's zero chance of this happening, I lost that "battle" last time this was discussed. But I agree with Arrancar109 that the profile picture has to stay in her base form. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  02:25, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

If we cannot agree on a jacket less profile pic then I would support going back to a jacketed pic--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  02:34, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well we can do a picture swap. Put the teeth picture in the appearance section and the jacket picture as the profile. It would make Harribel consistent with Aaroniero Arruruerie, who has a masked picture as his profile and the mask-less picture in his appearance section. I guess I'll swap the pictures for now and we can keep talking and see if anyone comes-up with a better idea. Tinni  (Talk)  03:06, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'm in support of that since, in all of her appearances outside of the FKT battle, she had her jacket on!! Also, I agree with Lia, Harribel looked awesome in the Manga but the Anime, which i prefer more times than not, just messed up her frightningly sexy appearance!! But obviously, Anime pics are better but for the profile picture, I'm going for the jacket too!! I mean, we don't have an adult picture of Nel as her profile picture because, even though it is her true form, she is seen mostly as a child!! SunXia (talk) 22:52, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I can settle for that then. Technically, zipper-down is her "typical" appearance, since she spends most of her time with it on (even when she doesn't have screen time). So it'd be just like Aaroniero's case. Mohrpheus (talk) 00:24, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Byakuya
Byakuya is the only one who will not be getting a fight in the light. Here is the best I could find in Episode 362.--

I would also agree that his fight most likely wont end up in lit setting so we should take this opportunity to change the pic.--<font color="00BFFF" size="2px">Salubri <font color="1E90FF" size="2px">(Talk)  02:02, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Go with this shot for now. I like it, because we have a nice straight frontal view of Byakuya, which is hard to find at times. Profiles should either be frontal or 3/4 view shots. -- 03:28, February 29, 2012 (UTC)