Talk:Ichigo Kurosaki

Ichigo's species after 459
i wonder what species to refer ichigo to because it seems his fullbring and shinigami powers have fused. would he be classified as shinigami?

Id say its safe to call him a Human/Shinigami again. Ill wait for an admin to chime in though to make sure they are okay with this.--

I guess this is always something people will disagree on until Ichigo becomes a fulltime shinigami. Until then, let's categorize him as human/shinigami for the sake of compromise, Though, personally I think he should be seen as a shinigami right now. The reason behind this is simple: though he has a living body (let's assume the explosion/transformation in 459 hasn't killed his body), he is technically already dead. Let's face it, his soul chain is already severed, and his body acted already like a gigai. If he wouldn't have returned to his body in the past, and had remained a soul reaper 24/7, he wouldn't have been called a human, but a shinigami. And even if his mother was a human, that doesn't mean he classifies as a hybrid automatically if he would move to soul society. Such reasoning would have consequences for how you classify other shinigami. Not all of them are born in Soul Society. Secondly, even when Ichigo had lost his powers, he still had a severed soul chain at that point in time (unless you can evidence that it has reattached itself, but that would have contradicted with the article about this chain). Therefor in my opinion he should have been called a plus before 459. But I can see why people who don't want to think about it too much still want to call him a human because of his body (assuming is hasn't been evaporated in the blast) that still around instead of a gigai. 100%Alcohol (talk) 11:44, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

His soul chain might have been severed but his body is still living otherwise he still wouldn't be aging like a normal human does!! If he was dead his body would be decomposing!! SunXia  (Chat)  12:09, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Former Powers and Abilities to current
I'm anticipating a reversion of shinigami powers to current powers, but I have to request that anyone currently wanting to make the change does so with care. We obviously don't have quite enough info, and we're not sure if Ichigo can still do Bankai or Hollowfication. We know only that he can still use Shikai and Getsuga Tensho, and that's really not enough. Basically, I suggest that we hold off on doing a major content move until next week. Aeron Solo wuz here (If you wanna talk)  23:21, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Meanwhile, I think I'll create a small edit here to account for the coming flames of not putting back Ichigo's regained shinigami powers--or Zangetsu's upgrade once we put it in. Here it is:

Following Rukia restoring Ichigo's power to him, Zangetsu is revealed to have changed. The hilt, once wrapped with cloth, is now uncovered and a chain similar to that of Tensa Zangetsu now dangles from the pommel. The simple cleaver blade is now more advanced...

That's all I can do to describe the blade. I'll leave the rest to you guys. Aeron Solo wuz here (If you wanna talk)  23:40, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

The obvious is this: it's a result of his Shinigami powers merging with his Fullbring powers (I guess Ginjo maybe only drained some of them? Or something?) My question is this: are his Shinigami powers being supplimented by Fullbring or is it vice-versa? I hope it's the latter personally, because it was actually a bit cooler that Ichigo was fighting as a living human rather than a spirit. Bloodtom1 (talk) 08:27, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Again, sigh, currently we don't know what has happened to Ichigo other than he is looking like a Shinigami again with an entirely different blade!! We need to wit for confirmation given that Ichigo was stabbed, like the first time so there may be complication in regards to his new powers!! We don't know the details yet, just one image!! SunXia  (Chat)  12:24, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. An image does NOT speak a million words, it only tells part of the story. If you read Bleach without understanding any words, you'd get an impression of what was going on, but the words alone would give you an almost complete idea of what was going on. We need people to arrogantly reveal their trump cards in the midst of combat for that. From our current info, there's no logical way to explain how Ichigo's TAKEN Fullbring could have merged with his Shinigami powers. Why? Hmm. Think about the cap'd word. And Sun's right, Zangetsu could very well have become a Kurogetsu (Black moon) or something. Wait until next chapter for this stuff. Going for a cliche, it's better to wait for the chicks to hatch before counting them. Aeron Solo wuz here (If you wanna talk)  23:52, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Pic replace


I think we should get rid of the still image of the Final Getsuga Tensho and relace it with this. That same image appears in the gif below it, anyways. -countmall


 * No, the Final Getsuga Still is there to demonstrate what the form looks like.--
 * That isn't even close to the Final Getsuga anyways. Thats Ichigo after being (apparently) turned back into a Soul Reaper/Shinigami in the latest chapter. If you look closely you can actually see a few small traces of his Fullbring in it (the black straps on his arms and neck looks like the straps that were on his completed Fullbring's armor. To me at least) Evnyofdeath 20:54, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ichigo's Bankai
Should the changes of Ichigo's Bankai's after his training in the Dangai be added? Because there's only the Final Getsuga Tensho that's in there. And I was also wondering why Aizen couldn't sense any reiatsu from Ichigo, so I suggest that should be added too. Aty123321 (talk) 05:47, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Post-Dangai Tensa Zangetsu is already in there. As for the reiatsu, I'll look into it. Aeron Solo wuz here (If you wanna talk)  01:25, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Shinigami/Soul Reaper again
Not gonna get into an argument about which is the correct term (I prefer Soul Reaper), but no matter which you choose to use its undeniable that in the latest chapter Ichigo has become one again, and through the exact same method as he originally did (Rukia transfering her powers into him via stabbing with her Zanpaktou). Evnyofdeath 08:31, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

First of all, Rukia did not user her own Zanpakuto to stab Ichigo, you can see Sode no Shirayuki in its sheath. What Rukia used was the sword Urahara and Isshin were creating back in Urahara's shop about ten chapters ago. Because of that, we don't exactly know the consequences of what has been done to Ichigo, if it's just his Shinigami powers that have been restored, if there's some other condition to it, etc. Until we are completely certain of what that sword was and what will be happening with Ichigo now, what kind of powers he will be regaining now (his full power, a part of it, etc.) we won't be changing anything yet. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  08:36, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Alright I get your point.. The problem was the way the panels flowed I didn't recognize that the sword she used was the one the other two made, probably doesn't help that I read the chapter at 2 AM, and that I have a rather short attention span. Evnyofdeath 08:51, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Lia is right!! At this point, it only appears that he has Shinigami powers again, the extent of which remains in question!! This site doesn't like speculation, we like confirmation!! Don't worry, we aren't neglecting Ichigo, we are just waiting for more information other than a panel!! SunXia  (Chat)  13:35, August 7, 2011 (UTC)