Bleach Wiki talk:Policy & Standards Committee

Nomination- Lemursrule
I am nominating Lemursrule for a position on the committee. Lemurs has been around for a while and is known around the wiki for her weekly blogs. Recently, she was given her own project to helm and has kicked her editing up. She is quite active and is a pleasure to work and speak with. Therefore, I place her name up for nomination.--


 * As the nominator, I support her--
 * I support this because she is a frequent member, people recognize her and she's head of a project, which she is dedicated to so she might as well be here!! SunXia   (Chat)  06:55, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * I always thought she was an awesome user, and she's been here for a long time so I'm positive that she is aware of the various policies in place on the site. In addition, she has been given, and has been doing a lot of work for, her own project, so I think she should be a committee member.
 * I certainly have no reason to oppose. I have seen that she has become head of the recently formed Media Project, and is handling that well. No problems have occurred with her in regards to her edits. Despite not interacting with her much, I can give my support. ---Mr. N (Discuss)   02:14, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Rules
Now that our chat is getting fairly active, we need to set down some rules for use and behavior. I talked with Salubri and he believes its best if the committee comes up with some ideas and we'll see what goes from there. Below, I will put down some rules taken from other wikis I have seen that I think would be beneficial here. Voice your opinion on any of them or leave your own idea. Nothing is set in stone yet, we just need to flesh out some of these rules.

Spam and Vandalism - obviously, we need rules against basic stuff such as spam or vandalism. No using chat for advertising, posting the same thing over and over and/or vandalizing with defaming remarks and the like.

No Caps - Adapted from the rule on Community Central, users should not be using all capital letters, otherwise called shouting. The occasional use for emphasis is alright but excessive use is not alright.

No Trolling - Users should not be trolling or purposefully annoying other users in the chat.

Edit Count Requirement - Pokemon wiki was the first to adapt this rule and I have seen a few wikis adapt it since. A mainspace edit count of a certain number is required to get on chat. Users not meeting the requirement are asked to leave the chat until they have enough edits.

No Roleplaying - an extension of our fan fiction rules. Users should not be using chat to roleplay. If they want to roleplay, they can go to the Bleach Fan Fiction Wiki chat.

Language - keep harsh language to a minimum. No swearing, no self censoring, just keep it clean.

Comment and discuss.--

I agree with all these, I think it would be wise to have basic ground rules and none of these are out of the question. My only concern is that we do not try to be too selective with the edit count, because it might turn potential editors away. -- 23:25, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * We can set the edit count requirement reasonably low. 10 edits should be fine. Just enough so that it shows they are going to actually be contributing to the site.--

That sounds very reasonable, 10 edits should be more than enough. -- 01:21, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

I agree!! Should be implemented!!

These rules seem suitable for a basic foundation for the chat feature. I may also suggest some sort of rule regarding posts that attack, insult, flame, defame, and/or abuse others (which may follow along the lines of Spam and Vandalism or Language). I am not sure if a user can be blocked from chat, but maybe a block policy if blocks can be done? And this is off-topic but...is the | Policy Violations page still something being used? I know that problematic users come and go, and many of them are generally dealt with by Committee members, so they are not necessarily warned by an Admin (and put on said page). Part of the reason that I ask is because it seems like something similar could be useful for the Committee and partly because the list on the page is dated. Obviously, this is not the most pressing thing to look into, but I thought I would voice this observation. ---Mr. N (Discuss)   01:50, March 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * The policy violations page, to my knowledge, has not been used in a very long time. That said, it might not be difficult to repurpose the page to allow for the committee members to add on to it. We'd have to talk it over with the admins but that might work well.--

I'm in agreement with all of these policies, and as long as the edit count requirement stays reasonably low (10 sounds perfect) I don't see it harming the activity on chat.

Resigning
This is extremely embarrassing, but, unfortunately I have to resign from the Committee. Being the head of a project on this site as well as being a member of the Policy & Standard's Committee was exciting and I feel very honored to have been given the chance to help the Bleach Wiki in such a way, but, as I'm sure all of you have noticed, I haven't been making nearly as many edits as a Committee member should. And this is because I bit off more than I could chew. I'm the head Administrator and sole Bureaucrat of the FT wiki and I thought I could balance my work there with my work here, but I can't. At first it seemed easy, but we are constantly getting new things on the wiki (monthly magazines, competitions, comics, etc.) and I'm usually expected to be at the center of all of those things. On a good day, I only have four hours to get online because I have to balance wiki work with my RL work and on Wednesdays I can hardly get online at all. I love working here at the Bleach wiki, but I just don't think I have enough time to do so anymore. Don't mistake my message however, I'm not leaving the wiki, I just know my level of activity is no where near Committee standards so I think it'd be for the best if I left the Committee. Sorry everyone.

I am sorry to see you go, but I understand. I wish you the best.-- 21:05, March 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry to see you go Jakuho, good luck with Fairy Tail wiki. I'll catch you around Community Central and remember that you are always welcome to return to the committee should you find the time to become active here again.--
 * Thanks so much guys.

Aww sorry dude, wish you luck with Fairy Tail!!

Very sorry to see you go Jakuho. Best of luck with FT Wiki. Seems to be thriving at the moment. 11:13, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

A shame to see you go, but quite understandable. Best of luck with Fairy Tail wiki. It really is quite excellent and doing well! ---Mr. N (Discuss)   14:41, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks everyone, I really appreciate it. :)

Policy Violations Page - Additional Tool for Committee?
Hello everyone. I am not sure if everyone saw my comment about the Policy Violations page under the Chat Rules section, but I basically voiced my observation about the page apparently not being actively used and that it might a tool for the Committee (for keeping track of problematic users that the Administrators might not catch). To give a summary about the page, the Policy Violations page is/was something used by the Administrators to keep track of “all users who have received a warning from one of the Admins for failing to follow one or more of the Bleach Wiki's official policies.” Godisme’s response to my comment on that was: “The policy violations page, to my knowledge, has not been used in a very long time. That said, it might not be difficult to re-purpose the page to allow for the committee members to add on to it. We'd have to talk it over with the admins but that might work well.”

So, I am formally requesting feedback on this; do we want/want to consider having a similar page for Committee use? It might work well to have information on problematic users centralized for all to see, instead of having it spread out over various users’ chat pages. Of course, this is not the most pressing issue, so it certainly is something that does not need to decided upon immediately. Thanks in advance!---Mr. N (Discuss)   20:23, March 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I support something like this!! I like to keep a record of things and offences people have committed on other forums and things!! For example, like Sock Puppets of abusive members and things!! Should keep a record of their patterns so we know how to identify spammers and flammers and Trolls!!


 * Some maintenance would be required on the page to get it working how we need it but I think it would be a good idea. We would need to take a look at the people on there now and clear out many of the unrecognized names of people long past but it could work.--


 * Sorry it took be so long to reply to this, but I think with all the spammers and trolls lately, this would be a good addition.-- 18:26, March 25, 2012 (UTC)