Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4957813-20131130185522/@comment-11269545-20140918084427

Stefan (Shikai - "Rust & Shatter") wrote: Jam17692 wrote: the first comment i replied to said that isshin didn't have any powers when ichigo was conceived, i said that he still had some powers as he made a kido based charm to protect kon in ichigos body and he still able to sense spirits(for example he could sense it when grandfisher attacked masaki), you replied to that saying that isshin gave kon that charm long after masaki's death therefore he had already regained his full shingami powers, so i provided you with a link which prove that he didn't get his full shinigami powers back until a month after that and your asking me what i'm trying to point out... really.

also this:http://mangasee.me/manga/?series=Bleach&chapter=535&index=1&page=12 First, Isshin's, and Masaki's, souls were linked together by Kisuke, that's how Isshin knew how Masaki had died, and not because Isshin had active Shinigami powers.

Secondly, I don't see how that charm proves that Isshin had active Shinigami powers at that time, since Isshin told Ichigo that he got the charm from Masaki, and not that he made it himself. Should we speculate that Isshin was lying, then it's more likely that Kisuke, or Ryuken, gave Isshin the charm to protect him after his Shinigami powers had been sealed, or that Isshin asked Kisuke, or Ryuken, to make one for Ichigo, when he learned that Ichigo had Shinigami powers and was out fighting Hollows on a daily basis.

On the next page, following the one you linked to, Kisuke informs Isshin that: "While you're inside the shell, you will never have access to your Shinigami powers. That includes the ability to see Hollows." Since that is fact, and the assumption that Isshin made the charm is speculation, then I trust the fact. it wasn't an assumption:http://mangasee.me/manga/?series=Bleach&chapter=187&index=1&page=8 on that page he stated that the charm was made for kon to begin with, in the anime he outright says he made it for kon so i wouldn't call it speculation, beyond that the page i provided before stated that isshin would be a shinigami/human hybrid meaning he still had shinigami powers even if he couldn't access them meaning ichigo did inherit shingami powers from his father.