Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27565137-20160415174609/@comment-27565137-20160430201428

Wri-El wrote: All Quincy use a cross. Yeah, we haven't been shown the Sternritter using it every single time they draw their weapon, but you have to ask yourself: If they can create weapons without one, why do the Quincy have one in the first place?

Because most sternritters use powers that don't depend on the use of their amulets/cross. Or don't use it at all. Remember Bambietta subordinates, neither used the cross, they used those things on their belts... And look at for example Askin. His bow came from his wristsbands not the amulet.

Besides, he's terrible at Reishi manipulation; he can barely create Reishi footholds, let alone create bows and arrows.

He was. Not anymore. Remember Hikifune words when Ichigo left the soul palace? She clearly stated that Ichigo's spiking reiatsu was gone and Ichibei only confirmed this. Of course if we had seen him actually use his Hollow abilities to open a garganta to reach the soul palace maybe then we'd be able to see how far he actually progressed in terms of Reishi control.

Also the way he now controls getsuga might be in itself a clue that Ichigo days of Reishi control problems, are gone.

Except Resurreccion is a strictly Arrancar transformation. An Arracar accesses their true power by releasing their Zanpakuto, and entering their true form. Unless it's like a Tosen situation, I can't see it happening at all.

Tousen would disagree with you. Remember him? He wasn't a arrancar and still was able to use resurrección. Also let us not forget that when Ichigo transformed into a full hollow during his fight with Ulquiorra there wasn't much of a mind there. His power simply overwhelmed him. So there's no telling what he can do now that he has conscious control.

 No, he made it quite clear that Ichigo's inner Hollow was the real Zangetsu. The Zanpakuto he wielded was inherited from his inner Hollow, nothing Quincy related. The Old Man was merely pretending to be his primary Zanpakuto spirit, when he actually wasn't. Not that it matters, they both are, and we're originally one to begin with. Power, in the sense of spiritual power, not abilities, is what he meant.

No. What Old Man said was that up until Nimaiya blew the whistle, he had not only been his prime source of power, but he also suppressed the real Zangetsu. Not completely, but only because he was unable to suppress it all. He said Ichigo up until that point had only used a small fraction of Zangetsu.

A small fraction is only a small fraction. And most likely Old Man used that small fraction to create a resemblance of shinigami powers. Which we know Ichigo wasn't really using. Only now we know without a doubt he's using... Or at least that he can use it if he so chooses.

But that's just it. When learning the FTG both Young Boy (young Yhwach) and White Ichigo (Zangetsu), they said they were originally both one and the same. But then when Ichigo confronted Old Man, he said that he was not Zangetsu. It was Ichigo that chose to accept Old Man as also being part of Zangetsu. If they're or aren't both Zangetsu is still to be seen.

It's more to do with his inner Hollow than Bankai. He even admitted that he learnt it from his inner Hollow, so the fact that he can fire black Getsuga with his larger blade just shows that it's his inner Hollow's attack.

In which chapter did Ichigo stated he had learned to use Kuroi Getsuga (black getsuga) from Zangetsu? The real Zangetsu.

I don't remember ever reading anything about that. But still if and it's a power closely related to hollows or the hollow White, that only serves to explain other things about why Ichigo dual blades might not be his actually shikai. Let's say Ichigo powers are more like a combination of both Visored and Arrancar aspects... Well, some Arrancars had zanpakutous that resembled nothing like a katana, like Nnoitra and Barragan. So Ichigo blades might be something midway.

In a way that's why for me both Askin and Gerard could've dropped dead earlier. Until we see Ichigo really fighting we'll never really know anything for sure.

Like what?

There's so many possibilities. Names... Powers...

Seeing that Isshin power was fire elemental, maybe Ichigo could have a shikai that was as powerful or more powerful than Zanka no Tachi. Making his the most powerful fire elemental zanpakutou, and a worthy substitute of Yamamoto.

That or something along the lines of what Ichibei did but with a twist. Ichibei had power over names and the color black, seeing Ichigo's affinity for sensing the emotions of others through their zanpakutous, maybe the ability to duplicate the powers of everyone he ever fought. Just the powers not the shape of their zanpakutous. Or anything like that. Giving him also a immunity to Yhwach ability to steal other people powers.

Or... Something along the line of Schrift manipulation. Not exactly like a schrift but close enough. Ichigo could give himself any power he so desired, but in his Shikai form it could only be one power at a time. It could even be called 手紙 'Tegami' (letter). While in bankai he could use multiple. Seeing that Tango would sound not so cool (tango is japonese for word) and alphabet would be even worst maybe something else. You choose...