Talk:Omakes

Too long
I think we should start thinking about breaking this page into its 7 ingredients. Either that or we create separate pages for the bigger segments with only a short description and main article links in this page. When I say bigger segments I mean the Arrancar Encyclopedia, Kon-sama's Ultimate Shinigami Illustrated Guide and mostly the Shinigami Illustrated Picture Book. WD  Converse  15:49, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Did you do the show-hide tags WD ? That was a good idea. I approve and I think that's one way of keeping this big page. Let's not forget that the pages were separate before and the result was a distinct lack of maintenance. This big page, if nothing else, is relatively well maintained and never goes out of date by more then a couple of weeks. That being said, the wiki has changed since the big page came into being. We have a Omake nav and those nav do good job of drawing attention to "off-the beaten track" pages - which the omakes largely are. So I think the show-hide tags are good fixes and I am not entirely in favour of breaking the pages-up again as I can't be sure they won't be neglected. But the wiki has changed since then so... Tinni  (Talk)  20:05, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

I see your point, but who's to say a no longer active omake segment doesn't warrant a less-frequently-maintained page? Kinda like an episode from 6 years ago. It's not like the "off the beaten track" segments get much attention anyway these days, it's mostly the active segments that get attention. Like you said, with the omake nav tag even the forgotten heroes of yore will get at least some attention. WD  Converse  23:05, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well as I said, I am not against breaking the page up again and so I thought about what we could do with the page broken-up that we can't do with the page together. Since I love infoboxes, I obviously though of a infobox and so decided to implement what I was thinking of in Arrancar Encyclopedia page. I haven't removed anything from the Omake Page because at this stage we are still just talking. But looking at the Arrancar Encyclopedia, it is quite substantial and most of the omakes, save for maybe the Quincy Encyclopedia, will be substantial enough to not look like a stub. We can also add trivia sections and the likes should there be a need for such. Anyway, let's leave this up for a bit and see what kind of feedback we get. We'll then decide what to do. Tinni  (Talk)  10:23, January 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree that this page has grown quite long and detailed, perhaps too long for just one article. The show hide tags was a good idea, but there is sense in splitting the article up once again. There are links to each in the navbox already. The Arrancar Encyclopedia demo page looks good. No qualms with it having its own article. I'd like for more people to comment on this to see if anyone has any potential problems, but I have no objections to splitting it. 12:03, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well, seeing how the Arrancar Encyclopedia page turned out, I would support the split. This page is very long and the example page turned out nicely so no objections here.--God (Pray)  19:03, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well the Arrancar Encyclopedia is a large page. I am more worried about the smaller page. So I did up the Substitute Shinigami Work Diary page. That turned out rather substantial as well. So I am more and more inclined to break the pages up. However, what do we do with the segment page? Do we keep it as a "List" page or just scrap it all together? Maybe we can move this to be a "List of Omake" page and include a complete list of omakes. Tinni  (Talk)  23:42, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still not 100% sure all the segments justify a page of their own. The smaller ones, like the Quincy encyclopedia would still look stubbish although I'm less concerned about it since it can still potentially grow. But the Zanpakutō introductions is over and done with. I propose we keep this page with full descriptions and episode lists of the smaller segments and use shortened descriptions with links to the main articles of the larger segments. WD  Converse  00:25, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

WD's idea is good though we might as well see how the smaller ones look with their own pages. If they don't look god, we can just get rid of them. If they do, we can keep them. This page should remain as a descriptor of what an omake is and then give a short description of each segment type and link to that page.--God (Pray)  00:32, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think "Shinigami Zanpakutō Introductions" or "Karakura Town: Secrets of the Seven Mysteries" will be a problem. They are not that much smaller then Substitute Shinigami Work Diary, especially "Karakura Town: Secrets of the Seven Mysteries", which due to how it is structured, is actually more spread out then necessary. The Quincy Encyclopedia is the only really problematic one and having now made that in its own page... I don't think it looks stubbish at all! Just to be clear, we either break up everything or leave everything here. The reason is consistency or look and feel. Having some segment in their own article with info boxes and the likes and other grouped together here - just distracts from consistency of experience IMO. Tinni  (Talk)  01:25, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Looking at the Quincy Encyclopedia page, I don't think it looks bad. I like it. I will support splitting everything into its own pages. This page should just have the information of what an omake is, a short descriptor of the segment types with a main article link to the new pages.--God (Pray)  01:31, January 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have to agree. Having looked at it, it does look somewhat short but it doesn't have the ugly appearance a stub usually has. It's amazing what a little template adds to a page ;D WD   Converse  09:58, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Alright then. I'll go ahead and split the rest of them off. However, I think we need to discuss the future of this page a little more but this discussion is alright quite long so I'll start a discussion below regarding the future of this page. Tinni  (Talk)  12:37, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Repurposing this page
I think this page should be used as a List of page for all omages. We can split them up into three categories, as per the navigation and give a brief description of "Anime Omake", "Manga Omake" and "Other Omake". We would also have to rename the page "Bleach Omake". Tinni  (Talk)  12:37, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good. 17:08, January 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, now that I think about it. The proper name for the page should be just Omakes, as per Books and Episodes. Also, if we did that, then I think we should include it under the "Bleach Media" menu - like books, episodes etc. What do you guys think? Tinni   (Talk)  17:39, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * If it is put in the menu, then somthing will have to come out of it. The menus are limited to 7 items each (8 if you include the heading). I'd say that the "Random Character's Image Gallery" in the Characters menu can have the random function removed and be used as a link for the Imagea Galleries page instead, as the galleries are almost entirely for characters atm. 17:59, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess we'll decide on the menu later. I'll fix-up the page now though. Tinni   (Talk)  18:07, January 23, 2011 (UTC)