Forum:Edit Zanpaktuo Article

Whenever I read this article it always irritates me that, for some unknown reason, Senbonzakura is not listed as a projectile type Zanpaktuo? Even though it is possibly the best example of a projectile zanpaktuo in Bleach? Why is it still listed as "Unknown type" and why is the page locked to prevent this being corrected?


 * There has already been a discussion on this on the Zanpakuto article's talk page (it is now in the archive on that page if you wish to view it) and it was decided not to classify it as a projectile type for those reasons and the ones below. I'd also like to point out that the Zanpakuto article is not locked. It is semi-protected, meaning that new users cannot edit it, but all regular users can edit it. Also, remember to sign your posts so it is clear who is talking. You can do this by typing 4 tildes ( ~ ) at the end of your post. Yyp  (Talk) 10:36, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Senbonzakura is NOT a projectile Zanpakuto. A zillion blade fragments that can cut you to shreds that are CONTROLLED MENTALLY/PHYSICALLY just can't be called projectiles. Do Senkei, Gokei and Shukei look like projectiles?

What I'm saying is, projectile is a very vague description for Senbonzakura. I can understand if you call Soifon's Bankai a projectile (it's not much of anything else, really). I would call Senbonzakura an extendable melee type Zanpakuto or something to the same effect. But since I can't actually do that, it remains under 'Unknown'. BlazeUchiha (Talk)  15:31, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Actually if you check out the description and think about the abilities of Jiboro Ikkanzaka's (spelling?) Shikai then Senbonzakura is a very much advanced version of that, as is Haineko. Fair enough about shukei but we're not talking about Bankai just the shikai release.

In fact by your explanation the only "projectile" zanpaktou i can think of is Zangetsu. that has a single attack which fires a cresent shaped projectile at opponents, so why is it melee? Wolfwood (Shoot)  16:06, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Amusing but horribly incorrect. The "projectile-type" zanpakuto classification comes from Kubo and Kubo himself ONLY applied it to Jirōbō Ikkanzaka. In the databook where the whole "projectile-type" was introduced, Kubo could have classified Senbonzakura as a projectile-type as well, since by that time we had seen Byakuya's shikai and bankai. He chose not to. We are not classifying Senbonzakura as projectile-type, when Kubo himself did not do so. That is all that there is to it. You lot can discuss it until the cows come home, but the zanpakuto page stays the way it is. Tinni  (Talk)  16:11, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

only one zanpakto has been stated to be an illusion type and yet the article lists three illusion types. and some of the types have never been mentioned in the manga or anime that i can recall. by that standard if senbonzakura has been called a projectile type or not doesn't seem as important as if it fits the description of the type ( i am not sure if it fits or not). ( if there is some detail I'm missing that invalidates my statement please tell me) Kamiryu (talk) 03:17, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Both Aizen and Shinji have been said to have illusion types. Muramasa I would agree is not an illusion type as what it creates is very real. Senbonzakura is awkward to classify so it remains unknown. Some of these types were not said specifically in the manga or anime however they are simple extensions of what has been said--God (Pray)  03:35, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Actually these classifications are referenced and the information given in the episode specifically calls koga's an illusion type. Salubri (Talk)  03:36, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hmpph, I don't remember that, I will have to rewatch the episode--God (Pray)  03:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

i recall several arguments about if Aizen and Shinji have illusion types based on the fact that that type was not mentioned in the manga or ever applied to any Zanpakuto other than Muramasa. the reason i mentioned the illusion type was because Aizen and Shinji's zanpakuto were not called illusion types but were classified as illusion types because they fit the type. and Tinni's reason for saying Senbonzakura is not a projectile type was that it has not been stated as one not that it doesn't fit the type. that is called a double standard. there are two ways to resolve that. 1. remove all zanpakuto from the illusion type except Muramasa. ( which would then also mean that every type that has not been directly stated in the manga or anime would have to be removed to be consistent with that standard) 2. decide if Senbonzakura fits in the catagory only by comparing it with the one official projectile type zanpakuto. so what is the policy. only use the types that have been directly stated or expand on what has been stated when something fits a type. Kamiryu (talk) 03:53, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/387/12/, that is Aizen expressly saying Shinji's ability is an illusion, making it an illusion type. --God (Pray)  04:11, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think there is confusion officially this is a dead conversation and the point of how the topic at hand is handled will not be changing. Hence why this conversation was started here by the first user. There will be no policy change due to personal preferences. We have referenced points for all other listed zanpakuto. Salubri (Talk)  04:19, July 26, 2010 (UTC)