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Stefan (Shikai - "Rust & Shatter") wrote: StealthBlade98 wrote: Only thing I can think of is that Ichigo had powers to protect himself so it was kinda pointless. As far as Yuzu and Karin i don't recall Yuzu ever being able to sense spirits. Karin Sure but perhaps it took awhile for that to take affect. I mean we didn't actually see her seeing spirits until the small filler events where she met Captain Hitsugaya. Maybe they have to be exposed for longer periods of time with people with High Spiritual Energy for them to see spirits?

If Ichigo had been able to defend himself against Hollows, then Rukia wouldn't have had to give him her own powers in chapter one. Also, in chapter one, Yuzu is the first to point out that Ichigo "already has a new person".On the following page she admits to being jealous of Ichigo because she "can only see a blur". She then confirms that Karin also can see ghosts(Plusses), before stating that "the only one who can't see is daddy". Later in the chapter Karin admits to have partially seen the Hollow that attacked them, but also remarked that Yuzu, and Isshin probably couldn't see it. It appears that Plusses are easier to spot than Hollows, possibly because Plusses wish to be seen, but Hollows don't.

StealthBlade98 wrote: What about that Kido spell he used for ichigo Dangai Training? His Spiritual Energy was enough to last for 3 months where it takes dozens of lower ranked shinigami to produce that much. Though he hasn't exactly shown many kido techniques but i would still believe a captain level shinigami would have to be some kido skill. Though judging by the page only a few shinigami are considered kido masters which include the filler Amagai, Oko Yushima characters, Hachi and Tessai are masters which isn't a surprise. Weird how Kyoraku isn't even on that page for kido, i expected him to be a practitioner at least. :| It's true that the Dangai Kido usually requires a dozen or so low-ranking Shinigami working together, but at the same time it also means that lots of low-ranking Shinigami know that spell, meaning it's likely menial work that doesn't require much skill to learn. One could argue that it was Isshin's immense spiritual energy, rather than his skill, that allowed him to fixate the Kōryū in the Dangai, and keep it that way for as long as three months. I would say that Hachi, Tessai, and Kisuke, are on a whole different level compared to the single barrier that Isshin managed to produce.

wasn't he using a special device not a kido spell?