Talk:Shin'ō Academy

Not under the jurisdiction of the Central 46
"Also, the academy is not under the jurisdiction of the Central 46 Chambers."

I removed the above unreferenced line from the article as Soifon implies that Aizen was awarded his teaching position by central 46 in chapter 391. Of course, it could just mean that as a Gotei 13 captain, Aizen needed special permission to teach his calligraphy course (doesn't seem very plausible, captains have a lot of freedom). Alternatively, it could mean that Aizen had to have his resume approved by Central 46 before the Academy would hire him. Whichever way, the implication is that central 46 does have authority over the academy. I have also not put in an explicit statement that Central 46 does have authority over the academy because I can't really reference something like that either. So at this point, it is best to leave things somewhat ambiguous. Tinni  (Talk)  04:12, February 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not certain, but it may have come from this image from Book of Souls. Depends on how you interpret the diagram. I would find it very strange if it were not under the authority of the C46 (just doesn't seem sensible), but with Kubo, who knows. -- Yyp (Talk) 17:54, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Id have to agree with Yyp here. The book clearly shows the academy as apart from the organizations controlled by the Central 46. All information points to them being a judicial branch with legislature and administrative issue begin controlled most likely by the royal family. In any case it specifically notes that they control the Kido corps, the special forces and the Gotei 13. It never says they control the academy. Logically speaking why would they it was made 2000 years ago there obviously existed a soul society before the concept of formalized education. Therefore it stands to reason that their authority predates the academy. The academy do not have certified shinigami yet so, its not really an issue. Also Soifon's comment doesn't really seem to have anything to do with the statement. She was referring to Aizen's appointment as a teacher. As we all have seen a captain coming to the academy for any reason is a big deal. It would stand to reason that in order for a captain to be given leave to teach amongst their other important duties within the military structure they would have to ask for permission. They are given plenty of control in military matters and control of their own division but outside of that they need permission. Remember Gin got in trouble when Ichigo first arrived. Salubri (Talk)  18:22, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well according to the book of souls, that very page in fact, the Gotei 13 didn't exist until Yamamoto founded it as well. So to say something like "the Academy is not part of the control of Central" because it's new is fallacy. If the Gotei 13, an organisation founded by Yamamoto, can be under its jurisdiction then so can the Academy. For all we know, Central 46 is newer then both the Gotei 13 and the Academy. Universities are often created through legislations of parliament. These legislations usually grants them a certain measure of autonomy but still does mean that the government can step in and dictate certain things. So I call speculation on both saying that Central 46 controls the Academy and that Central 46 doesn't control the Academy. Frankly, we don't know. Tinni  (Talk)  18:43, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well be that as it may, despite finding fault with my reasoning, I must find fault with yours as its not mandatory that a school is created upon legislation there are public and private institutes. In any case there is nothing stating a government has control over a institution of learning outright and the case is true in this instance. We dont know much about this situation. So we will go with the information given the book of souls lists it as apart of the structure so therefore the statement is true. There is no disputing that point every other organization is listed there connected in one way or another to their authority. the central 46 deals in judicial matters there powers come from established law. They enforce the law through the Gotei 13/Special forces/Kido corps and their related departments. The academy as shown stands as apart as the noble families do. The academy exists to train souls in becoming shinigami and then put them in positions in the established military which the central 46 has control over. Salubri (Talk)  21:44, February 5, 2010 (UTC)