Forum:Ichigo and his attack types...

I was wondering, because i have never seen Ichigo use this other then when his hollow does it, but does he ever utilize the rope on the end of his Zanpaktou to attack like the hollow does? or has he yet to actually take advantage of this feature to it's fullest? and if yes when? if no why not? i think that way of attacking is pretty powerful. Bk1217 07:49, October 26, 2009 (UTC)


 * He has not used it, sadly. It is a spectacular move alright, but it seems to require a great deal of confidence and control over the sword. Which Ichigo hasn't achieved yet. It is part of the Hollows unique fighting style, and its instinctive understanding of how to use Zangetsu. I think that Ichigo just hasn't reached that point in his development yet. Ichigo desperately needs to start using his shikai in battle again though, and it would be nice to see him learning this (as well as how to better use his sword in general). Then again, if Ichigo does ever start doing that, it lessens the appeal of the Hollow. So from that point of view, it may never happen. --Yyp 10:12, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Argh I wish he would! It would have made his fights so much better and he wouldn't have to rely on bankai so much if he could use Zangetsu properly. Oh well, I suppose that's just the way it is, it's not like his current opponents are going to be fazed by anything he does in shikai, as half the time his bankai seems to do crap all anyway. You're right, it makes his hollow entertaining to watch but we don't see enough of him really to get enough of Zangetsu's shikai awesomeness. BollyW 10:43, October 26, 2009 (UTC)


 * True, the story doesn't allow him to use it at this point. He tried not to use bankai against Dordonii, but in the end he had to. And that was one of the weaker opponents he has had in this arc. Barring any inner world encounters, I don't think we'll see his shikai again until the story moves on to something else. But his bankai has that chain - maybe he could do some twirling with that. Maybe the Hollow could change the length of it at will so that it could be flung like his shikai is. That would be a great addition, imo. --Yyp 11:09, October 26, 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, the sword can be swung around by the chain. In ep 124 Hollow Ichigo swings it around by the chain to get the motion going & then using the motion throws it at Ichigo & runs him through. Other then that I have been wondering about the significance of the chain. We always talk about how underdeveloped Orihimes powers are, but what about Ichigo & Zangetsu. Thus far Ichigo has only learned Getsuga Tensho. Surely Zangetsu is capable of more. As far as the chain goes maybe it is somehow linked to another power his Bankai can use, but since Ichigo has made no recent attempts to learn more about his Zanpakuto, he can't use it yet. Minato88 20:31, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

That's a good point, its interesting the only time (that i can recall) he actually talked to Zangetsu about being one with him and lending Zangetsu all of Ichigo's power so he can win, and learn more about him, was the fight with Kenpachi. I know he has done the bankai training and "learned" more, but in an actual battle i don't think he has ever done the same thing he did with Kenpachi. Now, on the note of the rope/chain/thing at the base of the sword, i do believe you are right Minato, he just hasn't learned enough yet to master his sword and all of his capabilities. It does seem that most bankai/shikai have multiple functions. I don't know if by only having one (in Ichigo's case) makes that "one power" more powerful? or if he just hasn't tried to master anything else yet, or because of the hollow inside, maybe he can't master any more then he already has, without learning it directly from the Hollow Ichigo. Because didn't Hollow Ichigo mention something about he is Zangetsu now, meaning that ever since the beginning Hollow Ichigo was bonding and growing with Zangetsu, until they became one entity, and that entity is where the power is coming from... or at least that's what i remember from one of the episodes where Ichigo was in his own mind asking about Zangetsu, and Hollow Ichigo stating "i am zangetsu... dum dum dum daaaaaaaa". dramatic isn't it =) Bk1217 20:50, October 26, 2009 (UTC)