Talk:Shinji Hirako

I am not sure if that last picture could be interpreted as Shinji being stuck down by a deadly strike. I think the safer interpretation is that Shinji, upon removing his mask entirely, aimed a deadly strike at Aizen. Tinni 13:53, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Shikai Command
I could have sworn that there is a good chance that his is Sever. --Wrave 01:56, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I sort of thought that too, but looking closer at it, that doesn't seem to be the case.LapisScarab 01:17, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I thought the same thing you did but i agree with lapis when he said sever nothing happened or they were hiding it its 50/50

However, he did appear to think it. And we know he is capable of bankai, and we know bankai users can release shikai non-verbally. I noticed something else too; sever is also the shikai release command for Syusuke Amagais zanpakuto. I dont think Kubo would double dip, but it is something to think about.--Ulquiorra Wannabe128 13:19, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hirako was not releasing when he attacked Aizen - that was a caption. There was no speech or thought bubble there. Sleepyfans translated it as "sever", Cnet as "He strikes", Ju-Ni as "He cuts" and M7 as "Slash". It is just describing what is happening, and also "He" would not be part of a release command. See these links for the different translations.  . --Yyp 16:33, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Hollow mask disguise.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/365/17/ If you look here you see at the bottom panel that shinji i hollow that hat he wears. http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/366/18/ and http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/365/18-19/ You see his hollow mask.Compareing the dtail on his mast with what shown in the bottom panel in my first link it does not look the same, yet in the next link he has his mask on. Basically what I am saying is could the little hat that Shinji wears be also his Hollow mask in disguise. Here proof he brought the hat to the battle, http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/365/01/ http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/365/05/ If you compare the detail from my first link to these they match with his hat.Once he puts on his mask hes hat goes missiing. When he confront azien and he distergrates the mask, you still don't see the hat anywhere.In the first link around his fingers the thing he is hold is folding around his fingers like its some kind of fabric. Note I think the hat and his hollow mask are one in the same.Saimaroimaru 04:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Thats trivial at best, and sounds completely impossible. Manga may not show the hat because Kubo is lazy and doesn't carry small details from one panel or page to the next, especially if something bigger is going on. His mask froms from his spiritual pressure infront of his face like any other visored's does as well, not trickling down from his hat.--Licourtrix 09:31, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

"In debt"
"He then claims that they are in debt to Urahara and, surprisingly, to Aizen."

This is a Japanese expression - when a warrior says that he "owes someone one" from the past, that isn't necessarily a good thing. It can be a promise to repay good for good, but it can also be a promise to repay ill for ill. A better translation would be that he says they have to settle the score with Aizen. -Moritheil 09:21, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

It was Aizen who gave them this power, and in a way, awakened them to how SS really is, so in an ironic way, maybe they do owe him; it was likely a facetious thank you to Aizen, maybe to Urahara too; coz of him they're stuck like this. TomServo101 10:11, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Excuse me? How SS really is? Whatever do you mean? I doubt how they were treated came as a revelation to the vizards and if you think of it from the point of view of room 46 the decision they made was correct based on the information they had. Kensei HAD gone on a rampage and with everybody thinking Urahara was at fault for the hollowfication meant that the only person who could have "done something" was the the one person they couldn't turn to/trust. So the decision Room 46 made was for the greater good of SS and the only one they could have made in their situation, given the information they had. We knew Aizen was at fault, Room 46 didn't. In hindsight we knew that the "hollowfication" isn't the end of the world and is a condition that can be managed, even used to your advantage. Room 46 did not. This is something Shinji most likely understands, which is why he told Yamamoto that he has no grudge against them. Not to say Vizards don't have issues with their old comrades but I rather doubt any of them have an active dislike of SS. The wording does need to be changed, at least the word "surprisingly" dropped because it's clearly giving a wrong impression of matter AND feeding fandom bullshit that insists on painting SS and Room 46 as the "bad guys". Seriously, hasn't anyone had to make a critical decision based on limited information before? Tinni 08:23, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Who cares?--Licourtrix 16:18, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Well Urahara did his best its either that or become hollows and ramapge like all hollows do plus it made them stronger and was useful in beating barragan. Those vizard powers are bad investment on Aizens part and a good one on Urahara part seeing as if it weren't for Hachi Soifon would be bones right now.Seeing as Shinji tried to cut Aizen, Moritheil maybe  right about the repay ill for illpart.Saimaroimaru 02:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Shinji did make Aizen his lieutenant during the Turn Back the Pendulum so that he could watch Aizen because he was suspicious of him.Spacedone 05:34, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Indeed. but only because he was suspicious of him. He didn't know what Aizen planned to do or wanted to do, he just knew that Aizen wasn't what everyone thought.--Licourtrix 16:18, September 14, 2009 (UTC)