User talk:GinIchimaru

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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Yyp (Talk) 14:40, 31 December 2009

Aizen
Just letting you know that your post on Aizen's page has been moved to the forums, where there is already a considerable discussion answering and debating the questions you asked. Tinni  (Talk)  18:35, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Thank You
Thanks for the kind words. Being an admin here is so often a thankless job and occasionally causes some unpleasantness to be directed at us, so your words are much appreciated. -- Yyp (Talk) 19:07, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Your more than welcome, ive tried to do a few edits on this wikia and ive also done quite abit of editing on others shows wikias, so i know its very hard. But i was think that for a series like Bleach where there is so much detail and speculation to wade through it must be ten times as hard. Thanks again. GinIchimaru 22:54, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Blog Help
You don't have to do anything to get it on the list, it should be up there by default. I guess it just takes the system time to register that there is a new one. It will probably appear in the list after a couple of hours. -- Yyp (Talk) 16:04, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Spoiler Policy
Do not post spoilers (or anything that would encourage others to post spoilers through their responses). The spoiler policy clearly prohibits the posting of any spoiler information anywhere on the wiki other than the Spoiler page. The blogs are part of the wiki, just as the forums are. And labelling it as a spoiler does not make it any less of a spoiler. Do not do it again. Yyp (Talk) 18:18, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Gin Fake Kara edit
Your welcome. I'd just like to point out though that any new information added must have a reference with it or an administrator may undo that edit.TheDevilHand888 00:02, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blogs
They are trying to take our blogs. We must rise up and make sure this does not happen.--Godisme (Talk)  02:28, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I left a note on Salurbi's page although he seems to strongly dislike me so I doubt it will do much-Godisme (Talk)

I think you strongly misunderstand that their are plenty of sights that offer all the talking needs that you want to engage in. The point of this site is to make a informed site based on Bleach material. In the past couple of hours there is nothing but a wall of blog when there is alot of work to do on the site in general. Now that its under scrutiny its an issue but if the site was all about that it would be bleach blog spot. Its not fair for those who actually do work on the site to have to be on equal footing with those who don't engage in the community work. You feel as though your entitled to do nothing but talk on blog but by policy your supposed to contribute here. As I said there are plenty of sites that cater to that sort of thing. Also no you dont have to have a million edits, but doing edits is the main focus that you have chosen to ignore as well as bad mouth me.Salubri (Talk)  02:53, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

There is no hierarchy or number of edits that one has to do and you yourself detail all the real work you have to do and how you have no time to do edits but apparently you do have time for blogs. The point of wiki is to provide factual edits to create a site of bleach information. This is not a social networking site as it says in the policy Bleach Wiki:What Bleach Wiki is Not. Apart from that its not my job to accomidate the constant talking on blogs over the real focus of the site. Primarily you are to contribute not spend all day on blogs. There was a user who only came on to work on his page and he got warned by all the admin multiple times for it as he wasn't contributing. It eventually escalated to an issue. Whats worse then that is when your on the blogs and not even talking about serious bleach stuff. As I stated there are plenty of forums for that type of things. So I dont know what to tell you if you feel its totalitarian to ask that you contribute and be apart of the community instead of by majority playing around on a blog as if thats what the main focus here was. Respect the site, trying to sit in your own corner and joke around does not help the site any and is just about the same issue with those who do mess up the articles.Salubri (Talk)  03:32, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

I actually have turned off the blog comments but it is still an issue. I would ask that you think about it because the fact that it was a wall was only part of the issue. Active contributions are still needed and the main focus of the site. Thats really all I had to say on the topic so that you know and are informed. Salubri (Talk)  03:36, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Just to clarify something here, as admins of this wiki, we (along with the Policy & Standards Committee ) have to check all the edits made on the wiki to ensure that no damage is being done (intentional or accidental) and fix any mistakes others make when editing. We cannot simply ignore sections of the site. The blogs, just like the forums, have to be checked for issues (such as spoilers and personal attacks, heated discussions getting out of hand, etc etc), and it falls to us to do that. So the blogs do take up our time. I don’t feel it is a huge problem in general right now, but last night was a bit extreme. Now, about the issue of editing the wiki, there are a lot of places you can help us out without being overly time consuming: the Anime Summary Project could use some help with adding the summaries of the omake segments to each episode's article. These are only 2 or 3 lines about the 30 second clip at the end of the episode. A bit more time consuming, but you could also add the list of characters in order of appearance or the powers used. Or can you identify what episode/chapter any of these images are from and post it on the image's talk page so that we can add fair use rationale templates to them? The WikiStickies on the "My Home" page highlight many other things that need attention, while the P&S Committee has several projects ongoing that could use help (grammar checking their edits is helpful too). These are just some suggestions on where anyone can help out beyond general grammar/spelling checks. If all you are able to do is simple grammar stuff, that's fine. And thanks for making an effort to help out. -- Yyp (Talk) 23:11, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Grammar
Thanks for volunteering. If you could just do one or two pages today. Just pick your favorite characters or pages. I did Aizen, Urahara and Starrk today. I find the easiest way to do this is to copy the entire article into ms word and then run it through spell check. When doing so, use your judgment to discern what is right and wrong about what it is saying. Obviously there will be tons of misspelled words it finds since it does not recognize Japanese. Just hit ignore all on these. When you find an actual mistake, go into the article and correct it. Just keep going through the word page and you should be good. Afterward, just do a quick read through to make sure it flows. Again, thank you. When you finish an article just post it in my blog--Godisme (Talk)  04:01, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

History sections are supposed to be in the past tense, everything else in the present tense. Yyp (Talk) 14:41, April 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yup - that'd be a great help. Any new stuff that is added to the articles is corrected on its tense, but stuff that's already there tends to get left that way until the page is overhauled or somebody notices it while fixing something else. -- Yyp (Talk) 14:48, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, leave the history section in present tense. Technically it should be present tense but alot of wikis leave it in present, including wikipedia. Its cool if you can't get to it this weekend, just whenever you can. Oh and that is so awesome you are writing on eugenics. Me and my friends argue about eugenics constantly. --Godisme (Talk)  16:53, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

If Yyp says put it in past tense then put it in past tense. It should be a simple fix. Anyway, I argue more for modern eugenics in the u.s mainly sterilizing poor people so they do not have more and more children to get government money. I have gone over the logistics with friends and we found if we sterilized poor people, The U.S debt would shrink rapidly. The problem is no one would accept this plan as they view it as a nazi thing to do.--Godisme (Talk)  17:35, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds Good, I am doing the tense changes on the three major page completions. I have changed Aizen and Urahara and will change Starrk b the end of the day. I will do the full grammar edits on some of the pages you have changed the histories for when I get a little less busy.--<font color="black" face="Verdana">Godisme <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Talk)

edits
Basically you just add double brackets around any page that already exists. Such as the term Shinigami. You put the linked page in between  and that creates the link. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  21:43, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Grammar Corner
Tell me what you think of my retitling of the sections. I figured we were just using the one section as a place where partial edits were listed and one for full page edits so I changed it to make it say that.--<font color="black" face="Verdana">Godisme <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Talk)  04:52, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

User box
Hey, just so you know, there is now a userbox for the people who work with the grammar corner project.

Here it is, just put { { Grammar } } on your page w/o the spaces. -- WhiteArmor  (Talk)  04:03, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Hey
It's fine. I haven't been doing much either because my finals week is next week and I have been studying like crazy. Whenever you can do stuff its fine--<font color="black" face="Verdana">Godisme <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Talk)  15:19, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Fight Pages
I don't think anyone would mind us coming in and making improvements to the grammar of the fight summaries. You fixed up Lia's page. Lia's native language is spanish and while she has very good english skills, her grammar can be a bit lackluster at points so that was a good fix. As for the rest of them, I have noticed that people write these nice summaries, reference them and add pics but they lack on their grammar a bit and thus I think it is appropriate for us to step in and fix them up just like we would any other article--<font color="black" face="Verdana">Godisme <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Talk)  04:57, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well the point of the Grammar Corner is for those of you involved to make sure the Grammar is right. As long as your not outright destroying the articles it shouldn't be a problem. So far you have been doing the right thing as far as making the grammar right on the articles so there shouldn't be a problem and if there is I'll let you know.<font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  05:14, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Relationships
They're not really top priority for us, but it's not against us to create it. Because it's rarely touched upon, I'm not too clear on where it shows up on the page layout; I only know it shows up after the Powers & Abilities section. You should probably check some of the character articles to see where it comes in exactly (Ichigo, Hitsugaya, Grimmjow, Orihime, and Uryu, I think). We have to be careful with these sections though, since some of them are vulnerable to "fan abuse" (it took forever for Ichigo's page to be cleaned up). Also, another rule we have standing is to leave relationships with movie characters (and I'm almost positive video game characters too) out of them. If you're thinking about putting it in Ichimaru's article, I'd personally wait until voting for Article of the Month is done. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  01:44, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article
Gin, how could you. And its my birthday on friday too--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Talk)  03:43, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thank You!
Thank You Gin, you are most kind--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Talk)  19:34, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Ryuken's Trivia
I deleted the last two points since the first is already mentioned in the appearances in other media and the other one is speculative and (in my opinion) is merely junk trivia. Also put that on this talk page http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Ry%C5%ABken_Ishida but whatever you think is best I suppose Benihime101 23:40, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me
But they weren't incorrect. I made mistakes, and I was trying to correct them, not making vandalism. I hope you understand sir, and not taking it the wrong idea. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">Dekoshu talk contrib 16:14, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

If you recheck the article's edit history, you will see that I did not revert or undo Dekoshu's edits on Aizen's page. I reinstated a number of beneficial edits that he made. Yyp (Talk) 16:16, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Grammar updates on the fight summaries
You should be able to edit them anything protected should be accessible to you still as its only protected against new users and unregistered editors. If you have any problems let me know. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  23:04, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Grammar
Ichigo Kurosaki's page is finally done its overhaul please make it a priority for grammar correction thank you. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  04:19, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Will do, thanks for the help. I would have done most of it myself but my work schedule is just so crazy right now--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  19:23, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re: ?
Bogan's are mullet hair-cut sporting hill-billies. Tinni  (Talk)  17:45, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Idea for the grammar corner
So I thought of this while I was doing some work for the article improvement project. I proposed a bit of cooperation between the two projects and asked if they would, when finished with an article, list under articles in need of work in the grammar corner. That way the articles are improving in grammar and whatever they were in the improvement project for. What do you think--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  03:58, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Featured Stuff
Idk the end for that is almost up I dont see that happening but you might wanna ask Yyp or Arrancar109 and see what they say. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  01:48, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

The rules for the feat. quote are very clear: only Ju-Ni translations are allowed. So that will have to carry over to next month, as has been done before. The pictures are for this month though. 11:58, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Referencing Question
what do you mean. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  14:02, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hey so I saw you did not really know how to reference. Here is an example of a manga reference. I saw when you did the quote you put "" around Bleach. It is two single parentheses as you can see. Just thought I would help you out--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  04:21, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Cheers
Its cool, I just looked to see what pictures were there and saw you put that quote there. Simple fix.--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  18:28, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re: ...
Nope. Because I saw more of the spoiler. Tinni  (Talk)  08:33, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Don't get your hopes up too much but according to Sheetz, there was a mistranslation. According to Sheetz, it hasn't happened yet. Check this. Tinni  (Talk)  08:53, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Godisme's Number One Fan
Please don't feed the troll, Gin. Just a little suggestion; it's way too easy to lose your temper over these kind of peop- er, things. Believe me, just looking at his posts makes my spinal fluid boil, but it's better to just leave it. Trying to fight their kind with logic and reasoning is the second worst thing you can do. Mohrpheus (talk) 00:48, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah i know the deal with them, its very annoying though. I think i will stop though. cheers. GinIchimaru (talk) 00:50, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism
Thanks, It seems some people dont like me because I try and keep the site clean--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  00:48, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to respond to the vandalism too late. I went away just before you posted the message and so missed everything. It seems that the admins have taken care of the issue. I understand trolls are hard to ignore sometimes but it is best not to feed them as that's really all the troll is looking for. Tinni  (Talk)  03:50, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Good To Have You Back
Nice to see you are back at work at the grammar corner. Would you mind doing either Aizen or Baraggan as I have class right now and I have been meaning to get to those two for a while. Thanks!--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  21:42, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Its fine. I will go through it. Nice to know I'll have a little help with all the project articles now--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  23:23, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

No, not yet. I just realized how much stuff I have to do around here. I signed up to do a bunch of short summaries of the anime, Tinni volunteered me to redo the Hōgyoku article. Aizen's page needs checking and I have to do a text reduction on Harribel's page. I think I signed up for a little too much :)--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  00:21, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you kind sir. I think I will do Aizen's page and then retire from major edits for the night.--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  00:41, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Just check the corner any time you are on and have some time. Weedefinition and Devilhand have done a good job of getting all the completed project articles into the corner for us to see. When you are done with a project article, just put complete next to it and throw it in the completed articles section. Weede or Devilhand will usually come along soon and take all the completes down and mark them as such on the project pages--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  00:59, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Wiki ranking
Go top left under wiki click entertainment and then click anime it comes up. As i said i think it has more to do with content for te ones above us. but im not sure how they rank it.--<font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  18:03, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re:
Alright, I'll start with that one. Thanks for getting back to me so fast. PrinceNero (talk) 18:23, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Quick Question
I do need to make a note on the grammar corner that I reveiwed that anime summary, correct? PrinceNero (talk) 18:47, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Possible Trivia
I don't know about putting that on the individual character articles. It is already on the episode page, which I think is the best place for it. But if want you can ask on the talk pages and see if people want it. Personally I don't find it worth putting the trivia, but others might agree with it. 18:14, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Absence
Its cool. Enjoy France. See you when you get back. I'll try not to leave a million anime summaries for you to do when you get back :)--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  01:07, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re: returned
Nice to have you back again. Im going to leave a lot of the grammar corner stuff to you for a little as I need to do more stuff on committee projects--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  14:28, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Forum
Hey Gin, Salubri wants all active members to please cast a vote over at Forum:Should we use a Bot for large Scale Edits?.--<font color="black" face="Verdana">God <font color="black" face="Verdana">(Pray)  18:29, September 25, 2010 (UTC)