Forum:Orihime & Fullbring

Inoue
Isn't Inoue also a Fullbring user? I can't remember when it was mention, but I'm sure it was somewhere. At least all her technique is based on the same things and It was mention by many that its power differs from Shinigamis.

No, she's not, and it has never been mentioned that she could be one. Quite the contrary, Hachigen said once that her hairpins were somewhat similar to a Shinigami's Zanpakuto. There has been made no mention that her powers could be Hollow-like or that she possesses the requirements to be a Fullbringer. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  04:44, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

What Lia said. Kubo has been building-up to Fullbring with Chad for a while now. When Chad was training against Renji's bankai, Urahara commented Chad's power were hollow like. When Chad went to Heuco Mundo shortly after, he commented that his powers felt at home in Heuco Mundo and that he has been suspicious of his powers ever since he got them or something like that. Same is not true of Orihime. Orihime's powers have never once been compared to Hollows, rather Hachi compared them to that of a Shinigami. More importantly, her pins when "released" turn into living things. Indeed, just like Zanpakuto spirits, her pins spirits have names and identity all their own. She even has a "release" command ("I reject") and her pins have a name "Shun Shun Rekka". That's really, really not like Fullbring. So far, none of the Fullbrings we have seen turn into living things and they give their abilities names, not that their abilities have names to begin with. Don't get me wrong, Kubo can still declare Orihime a Fullbringer but facts presented in the story so far do not support such a conclusion. Tinni  (Talk)  11:06, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hints supporting Inoue is a Fullbringer
The discussion was closed and would not let me add anything, so here's my input.

1. - Inoue got her powers shortly after a hollow attack, much like Chad. 2- Her powers manifest via something she cherishes. 3- Her powers, like Chad's, manifested in a moment where she otherwise felt powerless. 4- Her powers have been compared to Hachi's, who is two things - a Kido user and a Visored. According to Shinji, the Visored's reiatsu is very similar to that of a hollow.

I just felt it wrong to say no evidence supports that Inoue might be a Fullbringer when there's at LEAST this much.

She is not a Fullbringer. Her powers were said to be closer to a Shinigami's and those of a Zanpakuto.--

Just so this is understood Orihime does not have fullbring and has never been so much as hinted at it. 1.) One doesn't gain a fullbring from a hollow attack they have to be born with one. Chad was born with one it wasn't brought out until he was attacked by a hollow and his interaction with Ichigo. This is explained various times. 2.) Everyone connection to their object in fullbring is based on something different, but there is still manipulation of souls in object, something chad has involuntarily done in certain occasions but Orihime has not. 3.) Your grasping at best. Hachi regardless of being a Visored is not talking about how his reiatsu is similar in feel to a hollows he is talking about the power that he uses, this is no question Kido. The Visored Hachigen Ushōda comments that her hair pins, being the physical manifestation of her powers, is very much like the Zanpakutō of a Shinigami and that her powers resemble his own powers. (Bleach manga; Chapter 213, page 7-8)--Salubri (Talk)  17:46, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Another one
Some people think that there is no evidence Inoue is a Fullbringer, but I disagree - the reason is this. Inoue's powers come from something she loves - her hairpin. Without her hairpin, she herself is basically powerless. Her powers manifested after being attacked by hollows. While many people think that her powers arent a Fullbring because of the fact Hachi said her power was comparable to a zanpakuto and Ginjo said Fullbringers' power is more like that of a hollows', they have to remember that even Hollows can gain zanpakutos and become arrancar - she even mistook Tsukishima's fullbring for a zanpakuto. Also, Ryoken stated that whoever attacked Uryu was likely a human with powers comparable to hers and Chad's - Chad being a known Fullbringer. While they have yet to outright say she is a fullbringer, all the evidence suggests that there is a high likliness she is one, as her powers are entirely like that of a fullbringer.Bloodtom1 (talk) 22:45, September 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Please read above. She is most certainly not a Fullbringer. Her powers were said to be very close to a Shinigami's, not a Hollow's. She even has a release command. She mistook Tsukishima's Fullbring for a Zanpakuto because she had never heard of Fullbring and he had a sword--

This is why we have a speculation policy. Facts always trump ones opinion. The speculation policy only allows use of the facts to support opinions.
 * Basically your first point is to bypass facts to suite your opinion. Arrancar do not possess actual zanpakuto (it simply their true hollow powers in sealed form, its a zanpakuto in name only). Secondly all hollows cant become arrancar and third they are a sub-species of hollow and have no point to the conversation as they are entirely separate.
 * Many characters hold something dear to them there is no basis to your opinion from that idea alone.
 * Godisme already explained she didnt knows what a fullbring was when first seeing Tsukishima.
 * Ryuken doesnt know what a fullbringer is, he is also making a point between the difference of a quincy and the obvious powers chad and orihime have as humans even though they are not quincy themselves. He was making no claim other then stating the the person was a human with spiritual powers but not like a quincy.
 * Just to be general if xcutions plan is to take powers, then why not involve her from the beginning like they did chad and more so why not take her powers. As the power 'to reject' is great. Instead they werent interested in her at all cause her powers are not like theres
 * Lastly Hachi as said previously stated her powers where that her hair pins, being the physical manifestation of her powers, is very much like the Zanpakutō of a Shinigami and that her powers resemble his own powers of kido.
 * Fullbringers have distinctly hollow-like reiatsu. Hers is never suggested as such, while chad has been.
 * Fullbring doesnt and cannot change through growth, while Orihime's powers have. --Salubri (Talk)  00:00, September 17, 2011 (UTC)