Forum:The Bleach "Who done it" mystery

Ok, Mr. Coyote Starrk has been stabbed. Question is by who. People known to be one the scene,

Gotei 13
 * Soifon - Armless and exhausted
 * Ukitake - Stabbed through the chest, last scene on the ground
 * Kyoraku - Cero at close range, appears to be fine based on interaction with Lisa
 * Yamamoto - Standing around looking all Captain-commandary
 * Komamura - Playing with his old friend Tosen
 * Hitsugaya - Playing with his new friend Hiyori and his old friend Harribel, being supervised by Lisa

Oh, there is also a bunch of vice-captains hanging about, most of them injured and none of them really with the capability to do what was done. Not even Madarame.

Vizards
 * Rose, Love - injured and in front of Starrk, although Rose does have a bendy whip with artistic abilities.
 * Hacchi - armless and some distance away from Starrk.
 * Mashiro - playing with her little friend Wonderweiss
 * Kensei - last seen supervising Mashiro and Wonderweiss's play date
 * Shinji - Last scene with Komamura and co, mostly just interested in beating his former Vice-captain to a bloody pulp
 * Lisa, Hiyori - playing with Harribel and the Chibi captain otherwise known as Hitsugaya

Arrancar Army - because bad guys can't be expected to be nice to their comrades
 * Aizen - last scene observing things with a smile on his face
 * Gin - last scene enjoying the carnage
 * Tosen - Playing with Komamura and filling Hisagi with doubt
 * Harribel - Dealing with children.
 * Wonderwiess - On a play date with Mashiro

People known to be in the vicinity from the anime episode 217 which were based on sketches done by Kubo in the volumes
 * Urahara Kisuke
 * Tessei

So, who do you think did it? My money is on Kyoraku Shunsui with a new wind based ability that doesn't cast a shadow and can't be sensed properly. Tinni 07:25, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

It can't be Shunsui. The blade that pierced Starrk is too long to be Shunsui's zanpakutou. I place my bets on Gin. Only his blade could extend so far and strike so fast. Kaihedgie 07:43, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah probably Gin stabbed him.But looking at list kensei is doing nothing.It also might be a new reinforcement like kisuke,yoruichi or children's beloved fathers.User:Shaggi

I think it's a new ability from a protagonist, as oppose to Gin suddenly deciding to stab his supposed comrades. I will admit the picture makes it look very much like it's Shinsou's doing but the question is "why". All the answer to the "why" question I have heard have been from people who are working of pet theories and fanfiction in their heads that involves Aizen needed the espada dead to make the king key or something like that. There is not the smallest hint in the actual manga that Aizen can get the 100,000 souls he needs for the king key by killing/getting the Espada killed. So that theory doesn't wash with me and Gin is not about to switch sides for Love and Rose. So I don't think it's Gin, I think it's Kyoraku with a new skill or Urahara Kisuke's bankai which has been hinted at being "instant damage"/"hard to dodge". Tinni 08:22, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

The picture isn't clear at all. Then by saying he was stabbed by a sword is speculating even if it seems so. It looks like it is a sword to me though, but it could be a kido-like power. Black and dark, like a Getsuga Tensho (I didn't say it is a Getsuga). But if it is a sword, I would give my 2 cents on Ukitake or Shunsui, or why not on Sasakibe. The one who did it should be fast enough to deceive someone as Stark. But I have the curious feeling that it could be Wonderweiss, because it was shown nowhere that Mashiro still stood near him after she kicked his face.Ace of Spade 08:25, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Urahara kisuke using bankai would be improbable, Love and Rose didn't show their own bankai, meaning there are not in death danger yet. But who the hell could have the best reason to stab Stark from the back? Someone who knows him to not allow him to use his true power? Enemy or foe? By the way, where is Nanao Ise? Ace of Spade 08:43, September 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ise Nanao has been left in Soul Society to take care of the paperwork. Do you have any idea how much paperwork is involved in sanctioning the deployment of every captain and vice-captain level shinigami to the living world! Someone has to do the paperwork, why not the "desk work specialist" who is used to having to do all the paperwork because the captain decided to just leave it to her and go drinking :) Tinni 08:58, September 11, 2009 (UTC)