Forum:Hachi vs. Barragan Pt. 2

Ok so Hachi went against Barragan and it was pretty awesome. Hachi showing his skill with Kido was amazing to say the least the level of those spells must be crazy high up there assuming they are even numbered. Barragan as previously talked about was being just as arrogant as ever, boy does his zanpakuto name say it all, he is really getting annoying he really thinks he is a god. But no surprise Hachi figured out how he survived Soifon's banaki, and it turns out he isn't all powerful he just used his time dilation to move it so he wouldnt get hit. So nows he's been hit point blank range. So whats become of the bag of bones now, if he is dead thats a tremendous blow to the Espada and if he has fallen Harribel as number 3 doesn't have a prayer left.Salubri 07:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeh it was pretty cool. I was gonna say that some of his spells may have been new techniques that he came up with rather than shinigami kido, however he said an incantation for one so they probably are high level binding kido. Don't think it really matters though, and hopefully (from my point of view) this will shut up all those people who go on about "Soifon's horribly weak bankai". I like it. I think its large and bright and flashy just like a hornet is. And there's nothing wrong with a missile. But yeh, Barragan's arrogance was really annoying me so I hope he's at least taken a real beating. As for Harribel, she has the most non-tricky power out of the top three, i.e. Barragan has his time messing powers and Starrk is extremely fast and can shoot insane amounts of ceros. Harribel can do awesome things with water, but when its three on one like that, I think she's gonna have to have another trick to pull out of the bag to survive. BollyW 07:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Espada have (in general) fallen in numerical order, so I think that in 2 weeks it'll skip to Harribel vs Lisa (& maybe Hiyori and Toshiro), as we haven't seen her fight since the ice prison, and conclude that fight before we find out. TomServo101 10:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

lol, and don't forget Soifon's deal with Hachi. I thought she was going for a new and fresh arm instead of just payback on Urahara. Which reminds me, Urahara hasn't set a step on Soul Society since he left with the Vizards but I guess Yoruich has been going back and forth from SS more than that time with Ichigo & buds to rescue Rukia, I suppose. So instead of getting annoyed at Yoruichi, who obviously was the one who spread the info, she wants a piece of the guy who actually helped. Anyways, hope the sack of bones is done for. I wanna see Lisa and Hiyori vs. Halibel already. Deimonos 13:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but i would rather see Starrk vs Love and Rose.

On second thought, i don't care, I just wanna see some shikais and bankais.

I agree on the shikai and bankai. I want to see things get interesting with the former captains. However, Jūshirō and Shunsui seemed ousted from battle more as plot forwarding than lack of power. Being two of the most powerful and oldest captains (seemingly only bested by Yama and Unohana) they should have had a longer fight with Starrk. Seeing as the point-blanks Starrk cero didn't really do much to Shunsui, he's definitely still going, and should have been a good contender against Starrk if he went bankai. One eye 17:55, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

The real question is why did Jushiro not want Shunsui to show his Bankai? What is so special about his Bankai that Jushiro took the risk of loosing the battle to Starrk because he didnt want him to show it? I cannot wait til we get more background on the both of them. I wasnt really interested in those two before but after seeing the potential that they have. I just cant wait to see!Tealang99 18:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Jūshirō and Shunsui should easily have been able to beat Starrk. Especially if both used bankai. Seeing as Tōshirō seemingly had Harribel, then those two should have had Starrk. WW was really the only throwback. Jūshirō was only stopped by WW sneak attack, and, something tells me, that, just like Shunsui, he isn't finished. Shunsui, Jūshirō and Yama are the top three captains in Karakura, but, none of them have used much of their real strength. It feels like all they get to be is plot devices for the vizard.

But, to steer back on topic, Hacchi and Barragan looks like it'll be good fun, assuming, that, Hacchi and Soifon didn't just end it with a point blank Jakuhō Raikōben. One eye 21:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

The last exchange between Soifon and Hachi bothers me; everytime a 'deal' is made, one side is never able fufill it. I strongly suspect Barragn will survive, and one of Soifon or Hachi will die fighting him. TomServo101 22:22, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I wouldnt dwell to much on the exchange between the two. I dont recall any deals being made previously so im not sure what your referring to. But we all know that will never be fullfilled the point is to get cooperation between the two. Hachi is not the type to do what he said nor would he to the man that saved his life. Also Yoruichi would never allow it, and would scold Soifon for it. I'll be eager to see what happens. But if he falls Harribel will also.Salubri 03:47, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think he's dead yet, it seems like it was to easy. I was expecting Hachi to use something like that time kido Tensei used, to counteract the aging ability.

Not sure of he knows that.--SalmanH 11:18, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

To be honest I highly doubt that Barragan is dead, injured perhaps, but he will have more tricks up his sleave surely!

Also I think the Vizard stepping in allows for saving the Bankai's etc. of the higher level captains for later in the series, with whatever twist Aizen has thought up next (assumably he is a step ahead somehow, as always).

Also I'm fairly sure Hachi has a great idea on time manipulation, as it directly is associated with his powers being like Inoues.

HOOOOOOOOO 00:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)