Forum:Yasutora Sado

This is an official thread for discussing Yasutora Sado and anything relating to him. Any threads about him that are started outside of this will be merged here. -- Yyp  (Talk)  13:54, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Sado's ability
We know that Quincy arrows completely destroy hollows and Shinigami purify the sins commited since the souls became hollows, so what happens when Sado who's abilities are similar to hollows kills them?-- SalmanH  (Talk)  13:30, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

More than likely it just destroys the Hollow, like a Quincy and Inoue does. Shinigami Zanpakuto are the only thing known to purify a Hollow & send it to Soul Society. -- Yyp  (Talk)  13:53, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe, this may not count but look at the way they're destroyed, and hollow powers against hollows what if it absorbs some of the remaining energy, I suppose that's one theory out of the way anything else someone wants to add.-- SalmanH  (Talk)  14:50, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

i have a ?
HI IM NEW AND I HAVEA ? CAN I POST ON BLEACH WIKIA SUCH AS REASONS Y CHAD COULD BE CONSIDERED TO HAVE ABILITIES AS A CAPTAIN LEVEL SHINIGAMI OR LIKE POTENTIAL BANKAIS TO BE ACHIEVED. THESE KINDS OF THEORIES HERE IS ONE E.G.

chad`s level of power he is captain level

THIS THEORY IS TO PROVE Y I THINK CHAD IS CAPTAIN LEVEL.

ok now to be a captain what are the requirements:

1) have immense spritual power

2) achieve shikai level of soul cutter

3) achieve bankai level of soul cutter.

4) able to use shunpo or flash steps

OK these are the general requirements to be of captain class shingami

now we know chad has great spiritual power he also has two armored arms. now let us compare that to a soul cutter.

soul cutter has 3 states.

sealed state:

shikai state

bankai state

ok now let us compare

when chad first gained his new power in: agent of the shinigami arc

this is what it looked like: File:180px-Chad arm2.JPG - Bleach Wiki

now we could compare this to a sealed state of zanpaktou and his power level being that of a 4th -5th seat seeing as he was able to defeat any1 but a 3rd seat or above.

then after training with kisuke and renji his arm looked like this: File:UryuandChad.JPG - Bleach Wiki

we could compare this to a zanpaktou`s shikai release this brings chad`s power up to a 3rd seat in levels of power.

then after fighting Gantenbainne Mosqueda he activated this form of his arm http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...el_Gigante.gif

better known as: Brazo Derecha de Gigante now when he gained this level u could compare it to a shikai special ability. this armored arm puts him at the level of a vice captain. and also allows him to use sonido. which is a variation of flash steps

now when he gained his final armored arm File:Brazo Izquierda del Diablo.jpg - Bleach Wiki

this arm known as Brazo Izquierda del Diablo in this form he gained the ability known as la muerta which puts him at the power level of a captain.

now with all the factors in place we can safely assume that chad is of captain level although not at the level of other experienced captains but around the level of captain hitsugaya in the sense that he has to train more with his abilities to get better. and as for the fact of him not being to defeat noitra well on that matter neither could ichigo even at full strength, it took a person like zaraki to kill him. another thing u must also realize in comparing him to gotei 13 captains is that that they have all been captains for at least 100 years min and therefore have been practicing for a long time and as a result have more control over their abilities.

i have more threads like these such as matsumoto`s potential bankai it deals with basically the similarities of byakuya and rangikus sword and if she evr achieved bankai wat would it be like. so can i post theories like this here if yes than where if no then sorry for bothering u.

Tigerman123 03:31, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Actually this entirely inaccurate according to the facts so far. First and foremost a captain is expected to be well rounded in Zanjutsu, Hoho, Kido as well as possessing bankai. On top of great strategic and tactical mines and knowledge of the history of Soul Society. Now you use variations of Zanpakuto releases but they dont correspond to what your making references to in power levels nor in relation to Chad. It has been determined that Chads powers are reminiscent to that of a hollows nothing remotely similar to a shinigami let alone a zanpakuto. Now he is capable of training against a bankai such as Renji's but has shown no skill so far to actually take on a bankai in a real battle let alone a shikai. His arm variations are no more then his personal advancing in power but that power gain is only ever shown to be capable of taking out a lesser Arrancar and a fallen espada whom he only defeated (seeing as the privion Esapada are not even remotely as powerful as the current espada that not a great feat, except for his personal victory). We have seen Chad in his fights and he is nowhere near the level of a captain period, I wouldn't even say most 3rd seats. He is at best as powerful as a 4th seat. Also it is already determined that Hitsugaya is one of the most powerful captains and regardless of being the youngest he possesses the most powerful ice zanpakuto in all of soul society, he is a child prodigy and although his powers are immature they are far more powerful than anything Chad is remotely capable on his best day without him even releasing shikai. Chad gains in power have been small and limited relegated to a spiritual power blast, enhanced strength, a shield and energized punch. Even comparing him to a captain who has just recently become one. The captain would still be worlds apart from him. Salubri (Talk)  04:13, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to disagree with you Salubri but I'd have to say Chad is as strong as a Vice-Captain at the very least if not greater. He was able to take out the 8th Squad's 3rd Seat really easy. And that was with his first arm. Since then I think the anime fillers have really killed how people see his power, and while in the manga he's not one of the strongest characters you gotta admit, in Soul Society he took out EVERY shinigami until he was stuck fighting Kyōraku, you know, the guy who killed the Primera Espada with shikai alone. Kyoraku even said the last attack Chad attempted would've cause him problems if it made contact. In the Heuco Mundo arc Chad beat everyone who he came up against without many issues until he had to fight the 5th Espada all on his own. He even made more of an impact on the guy then Ichigo did with bankai (though both were tired when they met Noitra). Then after being healed him and Renji fought off hordes of hollow being having to fght the Cero Espada. Really you've got to give the guy some credit, he's not had the best luck and the only training was against Renji's bankai. Give him time and I'm sure he'd be able to eventually fight guys on captain level without much difficulty, assuming he'll be fighting in future arcs. - Though with the original start of this thread I don't think it's right to compare a Zanpakuto (Soul Cutter) with Chad's arms, their two completely different powers. And like Salubri said, a captain is required to be well versed with many techniques (Kenpachi isthe exception). Ichigo wasn't at full strength when he fought Noitra either, he didn't even have enough energy for a Getsuga and near the end couldn't even use shunpo, he was just getting knocked around. Chad's strong, but in his own way and style. Prophet of Sanghelios 10:06, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Finally, i have been waiting for this. Chad is the man. he should be as strong as a captain. La muerte, BaMMMMM!!! im sorry but doing that much to a fallen espada was awsome. that...just like his energy blasts in the agent of shingami arc, probably strain his energy alot. only being able to use only a couple a day which wears him down. i relate this to after his battle/slaughter of Ninitoria. i bet if he can use it consecutively like his energy blast improvement, then obviosly a punch of that much power every hit could be a match to any normal captain he can easily prove to be more than a match for any leutenant with the exception of Renji because of his Bankai which we could say is in-between a captain and leutenant's power. i believe we can conclude that is a fact.Jaybirt5 16:05, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say he is leiutennant level, no higher, and will not even hit low captain level. He's only fought a 3rd seat and beat him easily, though we haven't met many besides Ikkaku, who is way stronger than the norm. How he'd stand up to a leiutennant in actually combat is stuck in the realms of possibility; like we say all the time here, it would depend on which one; Tetsuzaemon for instance, I'd think he'd beat, but not beat Hisagi. TomServo101 16:33, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think the point is being missed by most, except for Tom in his first part. The facts are as follows, there is no proof of his advancement in power except in relation to his own personal development. In the group he is behind Ishida and above Orihime offensively. In the SS arc he fights the 3rd seat of the 8th Division, who was a big joke. Of course he beat him, assuming he could take on a average 3rd seat is appropriate though doubtful of being remotely capable of taking on Ikkaku or Yumichika. He then fights captain Kyoraku who dodges every attack with ease, sends him a distance away with just a push of his finger and then takes him out with no fuss. What the captain says about him is that he is fast and strong, and that he is extremely good for a human. However he can't hit him so none of that matters. He then easily takes him out. He then comes across some lowly arrancar who he effortlessly beat, but they weren't really a challenge. After that he fought Gantenbainne, who while a former Espada is nowhere near the current Espada's power. At this point he has gone through his three advancements of the right arm of the giant. Gaining a greater blast and a shield of sorts. He also enhanced his speed a bit and developed the left arm of the devil. He beats Gantenbainne with the la muerta attack and thats the end of his interaction until he gets easily taken out by Nnoitra. So far manga wise Chad has accomplished largely small steps but nothing to gain for the overall advancement for his side. Yes he has had personal advancement but overall unless he can get the hit he is doing anything. To say he can beat any lieutenant is grasping at straws, cause then you pick and choose who could beat him and who couldn't the reality is there is nothing to determine that he is anymore capable then he was in the SS arc in power level. All we know is that he can beat a former espada which we don't know where his power lies in relation to a member of the Gotei 13. Chad is still human and still has limitations that go along with being human and his power. He maybe at 3rd seat level but above that are skills that we have seen and some we haven't fully seen that he couldnt begin to match.Salubri (Talk)  17:00, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Fine, it's obvious everyone has different opinions on Chad's power level. I'm going to stick with my thoughts on Chad being the strongest in the group (Ichigo, Ishida, Inoue) physically, maybe same or slightly lower then Ichigo if you want to be picky, while his main failing point by far is his speed, something a few characters have pointed out. I'm happy to leave the discussion there and wait and see where Kubo wishes to take his story and abilities in future arcs. Prophet of Sanghelios 01:06, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

I would agree that he's possibly the strongest physically, but he's not captain level. And here's why: There are two ways of seeing if he is. Firstly, does he have the potential to be a captain? No. Aside from not being Shinigami, he would never pass the tests of shikai, bankai, shunpo etc. And secondly, since fighting is a MASSIVE part of what they do, a good way of comparing him to the others would be working out if he would be able to defeat any of the current captains in a fight. Personally, I think that the captain he would have the most chance against would probably be Kurotsuchi, since his fighting style is very intelligent as opposed to the more brutal styles of some of the others, which would work better against Chad. But even against him, Chad would not have a chance. Thus, he is not captain level.

As to what level he is... applying the above rules suggests that he could ALMOST be vice-captain level, but not quite. If we disclude vice-captains such as Kusajishi or Sasakibe, who we haven't seen enough of to determine whether he would be able to beat them, I don't think he could defeat any of the present vice-captains either, although he'd probably give them a run for their money. So I'd say Chad's power is about the same as one of the better fourth or lower third seats, but by no means captain. Snappydog 13:03, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Don't compare him to shinigami because his power is alot like a hollow and it was even mentioned many times in the manga/anime. comparing his forms to that of a zampakto is out of the question. in terms of pure stats, he's powerhouse tanking type with a high defense and high damage. the problem is that he's slow and usually has a hard time keeping up with his oppenents (until Brazo Derecha de Gigante) but even in that form, its mainly his reflexes that get faster and he can't necessarily use shunpo/sonido. speed aside though, he has great stats and a good amount of reiatsu. the problem is he lacks training. because he lacks training, although he has lots of potential and could definitely become upper captain level, he is simply inferior in power compared to the others. at the time this was posted, i would say he's between 3rd seat and vc level.

Sado Living Alone
Sado lives alone? gohanRULEZ 02:00, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, most of the main characters live alone or at least implied to do so. Uryu has a poor relationship with his father evidenced by him calling his father by his real name which is considered very rude, Orhime's brother ran away with her from their original home then he died in an accident, and Chad lived with his grandfather for a time in Mexico until he died then Chad moved back to Japan. It is possible they are receiving some sort of monetary stipulation from other relatives which allows them to live on their own.Spacedone 05:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

He's not totally alone, he's got his ever-present Guitar with him!! =D

That aside, my cousin lives alone with monthly financial inputs not to mention he's working but still. But it's no big deal when you can just walk/run/Shunpo/Hirenkyaku/crawl to your friend's home in like 5 mins in Bleach...have you seen how fast people get to and from places?!? BlazeUchiha 13:22, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

True form?
During the Hueco Mundo Arc Chad said that his right arm was in his true form, is really true? I mean at the time he didn't know he was a fullbringer. Also is his left form actually in its true form? Another thing is what Ginjo when a Fullbring is complete about someone needing to stay close by to control the outburst of energy? Could his arms be their true forms but his fullbring not be complete, meaning he could have more powers? Daikari (talk) 22:07, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

He did not say that that is his true form. He said that the form that his right arm was in was the true form of his right arm. That is all.--

I think what the one above is saying, is that what if his powers are not yet complete? It's plausible to assume that either his outburst of power was smothered fighting the Privaron Espada, or that he has yet to assume 100% of his Fullbring. If you guys remembered, he started off with his right arm, and it slowly changed through training, until it became fully manifested as a defensive form, while his left arm also became affected, becoming his attack power. If he has yet to assume full power of his Fullbring, it would mean his left arm is initially incomplete, just like his right arm was.Lokker G (talk) 15:56, March 4, 2012 (UTC)