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Kanji
I was thinking about something and I figured it be best if I ask now. Should I start including the Kanji of the characters names with there english names in the appearance section? We do in the powers and ability section and since there is a redirect to the characters in the summary it seems a tad redundant to just have there english spelled names in the section. Minato (Talk)  17:26, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Alright thanks. Minato (Talk)  17:41, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

My edits on Rikichi section
excuse me, but i need to know, how come my edits got deleted? thank you. no offense also.

17master 20:56, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Featured Article
About Hisagi's picture re: "intimidating", I meant the image that has the description: "Hisagi intimidates Findor..." And yes, I did contribute a better picture (in my opinion), which was entitled Hisagi Wins.jpg (or was it .png?) with him in his winning pose glaring at Findor's body, but it was denied of its value. I hope this answers your question.--Ethelion 23:06, December 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * Your welcome.:) It's feels nice to finally help someone out in this wiki.:) I just hope this issue gets addressed asap. Happy new year to you too.:)--Ethelion 23:55, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Voting
Hey If my math is right the two top characters for the article vote are tied i do believe. Salubri (Talk)  00:09, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I thought that it was only in the event that people kept using it to oppose the articles for no reason as they did for supporting for the characters they liked. I read them all support and oppose and they mostly carry weight in both cases referring to the particular quality of the articles. Also on the page it says that oppose doesn't count as an actual vote but how would it its an oppose so it would count as taking away a vote. It seems others where confused on this as well. As it is confusing even to me now that i see it. Salubri (Talk)  00:18, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

The reason i brought it up is that it seems more like the favorite character game is still being played out by just adding the word article to it. Its clearly seen in some votes where they noticeably put things like he is an awesome character and two even state they didnt couldnt vote for the one they wanted so they voted for him. one or two mention more about his character the series over the article really. Im just saying. Salubri (Talk)  00:36, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Thats exactly my point when you mention your real reasoning it kind of gives it away what your intentions where which a couple of people did. Its far less people now but i guess they are overlooked. Im just concerned about allowing that cause then everyone will cause its ok to jump on one vote because there real pick isn't getting any vote its as bad as when they vote for someone cause they don't want another to win. Which actually is the same thing possibly. Look them all over and tell me what you think. Salubri (Talk)  01:00, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yea that would be fine if those are kept. Salubri (Talk)  01:09, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

So basically we aren't counting the 12 and 13 for aizen and we are questionable about the 11th ones intentions. we aren't counting 3 on hisagi. tosen 2 and 3 are a no good either. Salubri (Talk)  01:57, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Well looking them over Aizen seems to have issues on number 1. he only mentions the article in a small part the rest is about the character. 4 im not sure of he only mentions the article in small part as well mostly its about the character. 8 he basically states the only two articles that are good on the site is aizen and ichigo and seeing as ichigo isn't being voted for he is supporting Aizen. Besides that declaration what really doesn't make sense is that its no secret that Ichigo's page is edit warring mess with barely any references and riddled with speculation. I question whether either choice was made on article or was it based on his favorite character in the end he says the right thing but the first part gives it away. 11 obviously is suspect 13 seems to have more to do with his character then the article.

As for Hisagi 3 is more about the character then the article. 6 seems fine he gets off point but then refers back to the article which explains him getting off point.

What i find really weird is the vast majority of support for aizen aren't even normal users on the site in fact besides 2 of them everyone else has only just joined and only to edit that one vote. Where as most of the actual users have voted for hisagi. I guess im reading to much into that maybe. Salubri (Talk)  02:44, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ok cool im not crazy then. It was really weird cause the votes originally were just between Hisagi and tosen really and for the past couple of days no one was really voting and then all of the sudden there was sudden interest in aizen the the past chapters were only involving tosen and komamura and hisagi. shinji and aizen were featured but i would have thought maybe SHinji but aizen i dont know something aint right here. Salubri (Talk)  03:12, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Alright Happy New Year. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  04:10, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

so what gonna do <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  17:27, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

What happens in the event of a tie again. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  18:05, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ok then who are you voting for. <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  18:25, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yea <font color="4169E1" size="2px">Salubri <font color="4169E1" size="2px">(Talk)  18:34, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

admin
I think you are abusing your admin powers because you're always editing someone's page

I just think you always changing or editing an article all the time because it seems like you don't like the way other people edit it. That's just my opinion.

Ok I see.

erasing
i would like to know what will happen about the warnings i have as salubri failed to respond my message in a coherent manner (he stated the same reasons mine as the reason of why he deleted my message those being: -he was not willing to engage in a conversation -the conversation thus had ended in his concern

same reasons i deleted the messages except that i wanted for any curious users so they knew what i thought was wrong about those statements so i didnt delete all the question just the part i was answering and said in the same messages that it was not an answer to the conversation with tinni but for curious people who read the message and the other message i was not willing to answer cause of the fact he was i was not involved in an argument with him and he was obviously influenced by the fact that tinni got the last word as the blog was closed after he gave his final response not giving me an oportunity to reply and be able to defend my point of view (also the person who replied me mentioned things that i was not arguing like somethings about tosens cero wich i dont specificaly remember)

i would wich that you remove my warnings or do something about salubris behavior as he just ignored my last message i dont think and do not even have a desire for him to answer anything about or previous discussion as i stated in the message that whe can both have our opinions but he failed to respond in a logic manner as to why he could erase my message after i messaged him back,replying that whe both had done the same thing he just chose to ignore my message he is abusing his status as admin and using his own point of view to overlook what is stated in the rules i also stated that in the message i wrote him but as i have already states he ignored like i previously said i would like to know what is going to happen in my particular case as whe both broke the same rule therefore should be judged the sameway, thanks for your time atte.Aizen sorrow z 00:25, January 2, 2010 (UTC)aizen sorrow z

Problem with the feature article picture
Hey, there is a problem with the picture of Hisagi being used for the feature article. I didn't realise that Arrancar109 had uploaded a new pic for Hisagi. A higher quality version of the pic already existed as part of the chapter cover(Bleach_Ch325_cover.png). I have now put a delete notice on the one Arrancar109 uploaded. Can I please ask you to replace the Feature article pic with Bleach_Ch325_cover.png and delete the duplicate? Thanks. Tinni  (Talk)  12:35, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Kido Users
I can probably help with some of them. Ran'Tao, however, might be a bit of a stretch, since her Shinigami powers were sealed, but then again, for all we know, it probably occurred during a flashback sequence. Anyway, I'll see what I can do. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  17:49, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I tracked down where Ran'Tao supposedly uses Byakurai, but there are flaws with this logic. First of all, I've noticed that she doesn't name the attack (at least in the English dub). Second, the attack is fired similarly to Sokatsui (through the palm of the hand, rather than the index finger), so it may actually be Sokatsui. I'm going to check a sub or RAW if I can find one. Anyway, the episode in question would be 105, so let me know what you think. <font color="teal" size="2px">Arrancar109 <font color="teal" size="1px">(Talk)  19:42, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reference Removal Glitch
Hey I was just wondering if Central Wiki responded to ur question about the Reference Glitch. That Glitch happened to me a second time and Arrancar109 caught it and restored References to Grimmjows page. This was a couple of weeks ago and the message I left him is in one of his Archieves(or on his page). Anyway, this time around it happened to me differently. All I did was Undo the former editors change(and thats all). I wanted to let u kno incase it might help out any. Minato (Talk)  20:09, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Well, thats weird, Ok thanks. Minato (Talk)  20:35, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

rebuk
this is very important, may i ask what exactly rebuked means? Aizen sorrow z 23:31, January 2, 2010 (UTC)aizen sorrow z

Re:Databooks & Omakes
Thanks! Unfortunately I think VIBES and Bootleg will probably be stubs for awhile because I don't know much about VIBES and I have to think about bootlegs. But hopefully someone else will jump in and edit the articles now that they are up. ^.^ Tinni   (Talk)  12:51, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Good luck. Tinni  (Talk)  14:20, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Kariya's Appearance
Oops...sorry. I get it now. --Milloray 13:44, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

thanks for improving my reference
Thanks for the help with colorful bleach. I have trouble putting in references while still trying to stay with the proper format. I was going to add this a few weeks ago, but things came up thanks for the help. I had an idea I was reading back to bleach in it's early days and notices a lot of differences between the anime and manga during that time(particularly in volume 1). I had and idea of having an anime to manga comparison. For example episode 1 and chapter 1 we do a full analysis of each and find particular differences and oddities. Example in the manga chapter 1 takes course over and day while in the anime it takes place over a course of 2 days. It is odd the Ichigo is wearing his school uniform when he encounters his first hollow in the anime considering in the manga the story begins on a friday in late May at 2:23 am and the whole course of events takes place over a day, while in the anime adaptation it takes course over 2 days which means Ichigo would have encountered his first hollow in the anime on a Saturday while most high schools do not have classes. and other things like how the switch between karin being taken by fishbone D in the anime instead of yuzu(which I think is because karin has more spiritual energy than yuzu and would be more desirable so it would make more sense for anime continuation purposes.) Tell me if you would be interested in doing a project like this. --Lemursrule 19:32, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

sugestion
altough if that is what rebuked means i could actually keep on about the message thing as i read the rules and that is the only thing that gave any remote reason of him being able to delete it i do not wish to continue in pursuit over such a dumb thing even if i consider it unfair

anyhow i would like to make an article suggestion as i have seen the other important anime wikias have it (one piece, naruto, etc.) an article about anime-manga dferences in the series i cant actually create and edit it since i am not acknowledged enough about the manga as i have only read the fake karakura arc complete and portions of other arcs therefore someone that has sees the anime and has read the most/all of the manga should do an article about that, like i said it is a suggestion as i have seen the other wikias on important animes have it Aizen sorrow z 01:40, January 4, 2010 (UTC) aizen sorrow z p.d. sorry i forgot to sign

Re: A Little Help (Bleach: Official Animation Book VIBEs)
It's not necessarily length but the intricacy/complexity of the grammar/clause(s) etc. therein. But no, this one was luckily easy:

the Cleric of the House of Kuchiki (Kuchiki-ke no karou)

The larger print was, as you suspected, his title/"name." Karou "chief retainer, cleric, chief clerk" is more lit. "house-elder." The other text reads:

"A quite-old cleric entrusted with the House of Kuchiki"--i.e. the affairs/administry etc. of their noble house, probably mostly record-keeping. Adam Restling 02:43, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hollow Ichigo Pic
Hey Yyp. I was looking over Hollow Ihigo pic, the one I wanted User:SpenceLIVE to fix. Anyway I saw u changed his to. Neither of these Templates actually exist and shouldn't be added. At any rate I just wanted to let u kno and I fixed it. I just want the user who upload the image to add the "Rationale" and I'll add the "Fair use" and SpenceLive is now on my list of "Favorite Users"(note this list doesn't actually exist, yet)as he is the only one to actually respond and try to fix an image. Minato (Talk)  12:20, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Huh. Well what do u kno. Looks like I found a new Template. Thanks for telling me as it will make Category tagging easier in the future. Minato (Talk)  12:29, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Committee Nominations
Hey just wanted to drop u this update. The Committee has voted on the Nominations and thus far only one has received a positive vote from each member. User:Nwang2011.


 * User:Gold3263301 got two positive votes from me and Mohrpheus and a neutral from Tinni


 * User:TomServo101 got a positive and two neutral votes. Positive was Tinni.


 * User:SerialSniper14 got a positive from Tinni and a negative from me, neutral from Mohrpheus.


 * User:KiranTheBoi got two negatives from me and Tinni.

The others were all neutral and basically thats what the Committee has decided. Anyway I just wanted to let u kno. Minato (Talk)  13:18, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, its not going anywhere. LOL. Tom did one before I posted the initiation and it looked good. The other was not focused on the Summary, but the surrounding edits(which were good). Umm... Gold on the other hand might not have seen the message and has not done any towards the Summaries in awhile(since before the initiation was handed down). I'm not really sure. I was thinking about posting the EXACT summaries I want them to do. I can mix and match Anime and Manga or go with just one of those two. I would like to do that to see how long it would take them to respond and how they handle the work. What do u think?

There is one thing I would like to talk to u about. User:SerialSniper14. I have been looking at his contributions and his edits r, well, for someone with his hostory(i.e how long he has been here), they r phenomenal. He seems months beyond his age. Do u kno anything about this guy? Like is he an Admin on another Wikia, as I have never heard about him. I was also thinking of contacting him about the Committee, but I really don't want to get too personal if u kno what I mean. Minato (Talk)  14:05, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

OK thanks. I'll contact Gold and Tom. I was also thinking of Nwang maybe asking him to do a couple of Summaries. If memory serves me correct, he is a Manga person and about Serial. Yeah he doesn't edit anywhere else and this seems to be his only wiki. Of course maybe he learned by editing on Wikipedia. Anyway, if he continues to edit like he has I will change from oppose to neutral. Mainly, my reason for oppose was because of his youth and time-on questionnaire. I wasn't sure how skilled he was/is. Of course we still don't kno how he interracts with others. Minato (Talk)  14:39, January 4, 2010 (UTC) Serial.

After some thought I am changing my oppose to support and skipping neutral. I wanted to let u kno and I will change that on the Committee Page. Minato (Talk)  18:58, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Yyp, I know you are the one who usually brings up these sort of things with the admin talk page so I figured I would contact you. I was hoping for a final decision on the membership of the committee for User:TomServo101, User:SerialSniper14, User:Gold3263301 and User:Nwang2011. My current inclination is to ask for immediate seating of User:TomServo101, User:SerialSniper14 and User:Nwang2011. With request that a 7th seat be opened up for User:Gold3263301 once and if, User:Gold3263301 completes his initiation. I feel this is a just reflection of the efforts the other three have made towards committee projects and that User:Gold3263301 has not yet done. User:TomServo101 I believe is just about to finish his initiation.
 * That being said, I see from interaction between User:Gold3263301 and Minato  that he is serious about completing his initiation. Given User:Gold3263301's higher edit count. I am also happy to hold the 4th seat in reserve for him and request a 7th seat be opened for User:SerialSniper14. I believe Salibur's original plan was to have 8 seats on the committee so this is still under count, so to speak. Anyway, let me know what you guys decide. Also, can I get an official position on  User:Animeluvr92, User:GODKING_OF_ICE_CERBERUS_WERE-GARURUMON and User:KiranTheBoi?  Minato  wants to contact User:KiranTheBoi with decline but I told him to hold off until you or one of the other admins formally announce the results of your deliberation on the committee talk page.  Tinni   (Talk)  13:31, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Well from my perspective Nwang2011, Tomservo101 and SerialSniper14 are actively helping out with projects and have been doing so on their own initiative. The others are not. As I have mentioned before, that's pretty much what counts with me. Anyway, let me know what you guys decided. Tinni  (Talk)  15:24, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Not to go on and on about this, but do we have a final decision? I realise that User:Gold3263301 hasn't completed initiation yet but User:Gold3263301 has started work on the summaries. If User:Gold3263301 is the hold-up, we can always hold the 4th seat in reserve for him and open up a 7th seat for User:SerialSniper14, as I have already suggested. I am just thinking it's about time we hand down a yay or nay on this matter already. Tinni  (Talk)  14:54, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey Yyp. I hate to bother u about this, but I think u guys should wait for Twocents. I feel I should have said this sooner. Tom is not done with his initiation yet. Also Gold and Tom have been waiting much longer then the other two, Serial and Nwang. Twocents is bound to be back soon, and I'll email her. I think one more week won't kill anybody. Minato  (Talk)  15:35, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm sure u r probably finding out about it now, but Salubri went ahead and made Nwang, Serial, & Tom members. So it doesn't really matter now. I guess I'll email Twocents again and tell her. I'll also congratulate them and provide them with the Archive instructions as they will probably need it in the future. Minato (Talk)  16:44, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Renji Profile Image
Hey srry bout that. I meant 234 not 243. I corrected my typing error on his talkpage. Minato (Talk)  12:43, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Ganju's gang pics
You seem to be able to render images in a pretty good quality. The gang is depicted in detail in the "Shinigami Illustrated Picture Book" of episode 95. It would be great if you could get their individual images out of that segment. There's also a pretty good shot of the gang on their boars at the start of the segment. Weedefinition 13:25, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. And I'll add those Hollows Weedefinition 13:37, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Fair use rationale
Thanx for edeting my pics, but where do you type the fair use rationale, in the summary box?

Re: Sode no Shirayuki Translation
This was another case I had previously encountered on my own and investigated. I have given my idea and its supporting data on the Talk page as requested. Glad to be of help :) . Adam Restling 13:37, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Omake Characters
Hey Yyp. Serial said u have been adding characters from the Omake Segment in the CIOOA section. I do not think Omake characters(if this was the only section they appeared in)should be mentioned in this section. Its for the same reason that we do not mention the ep recap and preview for the next ep. That and the in-universe writing in the MoS. Technically the Omake Segment starts after the ep is over, so I disagree with them being in this section, but if u feel different, could u explain it to me? Thank u. Minato  (Talk)  14:53, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

im really confused
what are kido users,i mean,i know what they are on bleach,but i think they have a different meaning here,also,i can't do a japanese vision of my zanpokto,and where do i start my bleach fiction story--DragonReaper 16:21, January 8, 2010 (UTC)DragonReaper

then how can i help
anything i do,you guys alright did it--DragonReaper 16:48, January 8, 2010 (UTC)DragonReaper

ummm,just asking but.....
can we be friends,im kinda alone here,and i hate being alone--DragonReaper 17:19, January 8, 2010 (UTC)DragonReaper

to sir Yyp
sir Yyp,is it?,uhmm sir may i ask again how do i know if i have a message.and how did you do the thing with your age saying twenty something and your species being bleach fanatic and the list of your favorite character & etc. thnak you sir ! " yours truly User:Johann diaz"

Re:Shinji and Blackwolf
Thats cool. I struck thru my comment saying that and if it has been a problem then leaving that on the talkpage is for the better. I only left the message saying nevermind so as to state y I struck thru my last comment. Minato (Talk)  16:44, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

U kno after some thought I realized that by removing another users post, not matter how insignificant and short, is wrong of me to do and I am overstepping my boundaries. When it comes to removing unneeded posts(that isn't vandalism)I will ask an Admin to do it in the future. Minato (Talk)  16:50, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Srry, I kno its kinda late to talk about this, but what I meant by removing anothers post, specifically the one talked about above, is that I was going to delete it and the section as I had already moved the guys post to the watercooler. And it was basically the same, almost word-for-word. I realized that, unless its vandalism(one of the many different types of vandalism)its wrong for anyone aside from an Admin to remove a users post from a page, even their own talkpages. Minato (Talk)  00:08, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Makizo Aramaki
Hey I need some assistance with Makizo Aramaki. I felt, instead of bringing it up on a talkpage I could just bring it to ur attention. On his page he is listed as the tenth seat. On the eleventh division page he is listed as unseated, on the list of shingami page he is listed as the 15th seat. Uh, which of these is correct? I remember in ep 51 the two unnamed squad 11 Shinigami referred to him as a fool, so I am guessing he is an unseated member of squad 11. Minato (Talk)  23:10, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

OK thanks. Still, I wonder y the anime struck that from the dialogue. He never introduced himself as a seated officer. Anyway, thanks for fixing that. Minato (Talk)  23:57, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!I'll be more carefull next time!

Most Recent Anime Episode - Please update !
Hi, and a Happy New Year. The episode number 252 has already come out, but why the most recent anime episode section , is still not updated ? I saw this thing, a day or two ago but I had no time to write to you about this thing. Please update, as soon as possible.

Amagai88 12:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC)Amagai88Amagai88 12:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC)