Forum:With Barragan's Death, What Does This Mean For Harribel?

Considering how Barragan was the Segundo Espada at the time of his death while Harribel was a rank below him, does this mean she will be finished off by the Vizard faster or does this mean there are more plans for her role in the future? Is Harribel's future in doubt? TheDivineOne 23:34, 30 August 2009 (UTC) TheDivineOne

Well considering that Barragan is the most powerful espada we have seen to date and he is higher in rank then her for a reason. Considering we have seen what she is capable of with the water powers and all, even in her fight verse Hitsugaya she didn't seem to be that big of a threat, yea she gave him a run for his money but the fight with her was somewhat like the one he had with Shawlong. Having said that it seems likely that with him dead she has no chance to survive. It would seem that primary fight will consist of her verses Lisa. In the event that she dies Im not sure that it would matter to me personally as her role in the storyline doesn't seem any more important then barragans and she would most likely get a chapter detailing her past as well at the end. I would more focus on what the battle will be like for her to get to that end then the end itself. I dont know that she would be taken out faster but hopefully its not drawn out and boring. Personally i dont find her that interesting of a character to see her having future role in the story. Grimmjaw is more interesting and i dont care to much for him, it seems that her interest lay more in the mystery of her, now that we have seen alot of it, sans the backstory im not sure theres much left. But then again who knows.Salubri 23:47, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Well I don't know about her, thing is Barragen wasn't beat by pure power, Hachi just happen to find his weakness and a technique to exploit this weakness. Maybe in a battle of power Hachi would have lost, it seem that way. So maybe Harribel will put up a fight since she doesn't have that huge weakness like Barragen.

I think the future of all the Espada are in doubt- they're fighting the Captains and the Vizard at the same time. If she does survive, though, I suppose she'll have a nice number two waiting for her :) ZeroSD 04:36, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

if she melts the ice tower then she has enough water in the atmosphere to be pretty powerful and maybe we will see just how strong she isStark Toshiro 11:27, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

For now Kubo was killing Espada from 10 to 1. Of course everyone wondered why Yammy as 10 don't die first but then wit him reavaling himself to be 0 show that all was alright. First died 9 then 8, 7, 6 (let say taht he's dead because his condition is unknown but he lost so assume that it just like him dying). Then 5, 4 and 2... That is little strange but I hope it wouldn't be explain like with Yammy that she have some lower number (-3 maybe?). Or just autor decide that this time would make excepion and fist kill 2 not 3 Espada so now it's turn for her. But as I watch manga I found somethink little strange. How many female arrakcarar we seen for now? And how many of them are conformed to be dead? Even among Espada she's only one female and I don't belive that wasn't any other to take some higher number like 10 or 9. Also her personality is somehow little diffrent that rest of her kind. Maybe except Nelliel. But maybe all I thinking is wrong from the start but i hope few next chapters will give us anser what fate awaits for her: death or losing like Grimmjow...--Kazuki Senzo Miyakami 12:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

well considering they are not waiting for Barragans battle to be over to start their battle for all we know she could already be dead we just saw barragan go firstStark Toshiro 21:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Stop saying oh Barragan got pwned so Harribel is going down quicker. Barragan got taken down by his own power. Even a Jakuho Raikoben in the face didn't kill him, so Hachi had to turn his power against him. It was their only shot against him and they got lucky, that's it. Harribel isn't arrogant and reckless like Barragan. Plus,we saw Toshiro pull two of his best moves on her: Hyoten Hyakasso and the Ice Clone. The clone pretty much saved his butt and all hyakasso did was piss of the Tercera, give her more water, and wear Toshiro out. She being one rank lower means nothing other than Barragan and Starrk are stronger.--Moe1216 23:21, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't agree with you Stark Toshiro that Harribel could be already dead when barragian died. Here's the proof that I find:

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/371/18/

we see that she's still alive. At least for now.--Kazuki Senzo Miyakami 19:22, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

It means she's still in the exact same place as when the fight started, she's facing down Lisa, Hyori and Capt. Hitsugaya--Ihaveaname 21:11, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

ah yes i forgot about that oops mistakes are madeStark Toshiro 23:17, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

I thought Capt. Hitsugaya was no longer fighting Harribel as he wants Aizen?HOOOOOOOOO 02:21, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

He wanted to, but was talked out of it by Hiyori.

Also I think there's a line. ZeroSD 03:43, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Who knows whether Hyōten Hyakkasō could have worked. If it weren't for Wonderwice, it could very well have done exactly as Tōshirō wanted. I don't think it'll take much to take her out. We've already seen her abilities, so it won't be a long fight for her this time. One eye 14:41, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

She had a move she was waiting for that required moisture in the air. So at least one, possibly more tricks up her sleeve can be expected to come out in further battle. ZeroSD 14:59, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Big yet-to-be-seen attacks or no, she's not just facing a captain, but two super-powered (vizard) lieutenants as well. I think she's toast. I'm really wondering how Aizen thinks he can win this, given his top corps (himself, Ichimaru, Tosen, Starrk, Harribel and Wonderweiss) are currently heavily outgunned by numerous captains and vizards ... of course, since he's a genius, he'll probably slip into Soul Society and cause havoc there. PSH aka Kimera 757 (talk) 00:47, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yea. Stronger than a captain minions or not, doesn't do you a lot of good when you're outnumbered by captains and vizards. One possibility is perhaps Gin, Tosen, and himself have used the sphere to become Vizards. ZeroSD 07:53, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

I honestly don't know why people are getting so work-up about the Espada dying left right and centre. Bleach is probably going to go for at least 150 to 200 more chapters. Which basically means that even if the all the espada die, it won't be over. Whatever Aizen is planning the fact that he's still so calm and collected and not moving to engage anyone is reason enough to assume it's a long way from being over or even going Soul Societies way. Tinni 12:19, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Generally the top villains are expected to be more powerful than the heroes, or at least have them at a disadvantage. We're not seeing this here. It looks like the villains will be curbstomped. This has little to do with how long the series will last; I think it's just been a common complaint since the Arrancar Saga started. PSH aka Kimera 757 (talk) 14:31, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

The top villains are Aizen, Gin and Tosen. Aizen at least is more powerful then the heroes and has them at a disadvantage in that he seems to always be thinking three steps ahead of them. The espada are second fiddle to Aizen, Gin and Tosen. The sooner people remember this the happier they will be. Tinni 16:26, September 4, 2009 (UTC)