Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5551986-20181227102057/@comment-36486151-20190107025045

SunXia wrote: There is no way anyone can justify this to me. There is literally nothing "impressive" about Rangiku in the entire series other than being a standard Lieutenant-level combatant. It's literally a throw-on to make a popular character more relevant now. Its literally fanservice because she was the most fanservice (ahem straight male-service) character in the story. Except it can. Kubo had stated previously that Rangiku's backstory would be relevant for the final arc. Also, she doesn't have the nail. The nail is inside the Hogyoku and is the reason Rangiku survived having parts her souls ripped out and why Gin stole the Hogyoku and why he apologized to Rangiku and that he couldn't return something. Saw the justification for this. Arrancars ARE Hollows, who removed their mask and suppressed their power into their blade. Wild. Hikone isn't both a Hollow and an Arrancar hybrid. He is just part Hollow. Another one?? Sweet Ichibē, Yyp just went "Do we need another hybrid" and what we get instead is another artificial being. Another one, again, repeating more of the Manga just because. Seriously why aren't they all making artificial beings at this point, just dilutes the uniqueness in Mayuri and such. That's not deep, thats rinse and repeat. We only have three characters who had created artificial beings. That's not really much and Hikone's story doesn't resemble Ururu or Nemu's story at all. Not to mention how they were created is completely different. More reason the novels should belong to novels and Manga to Manga. It just conflicts too much. It was explained that Tsunayashiro was branded as an dangerous element thanks to Shunsui. He got a few weeks in the Maggot's nest and then was put under house arrest, thanks to his connections. I agree too, they were literally a plot device to inform us of what Sado was, to give Gotei 13 an excuse to give Ichigo powers again and to "rectify" the problem with Yhwach Almighty abilities. They literally served no other purpose.

Like he tried to make Ukitake have a bit of shade and mystery, but like his actions were understandable. They literally lock up Shinigami who want to leave because they could become a danger so literally monitoring a could be threat is understandable. Nothing in that arc could have convinced me Ukitake was bad or shifty. He's clearly the most decent of them, that's literally how you are introduced to his character, Yoruichi feels safe to leave a convicted criminals in Byakuya's presence merely because Ukitake is there because of how good his nature is. And before the final arc the Quincy were just there to give Uryuu a backstory and now they are in a thousand years blood war, some of them are part Soul King and their leader is the son of the Soul King. Not to mention the important thing about them is why Hollow attacks cause Fullbringer to appear.

Ukitake is not put in a negative light. The worst that could be said about it him is that he was unable to do more. Hahahahah, sorry but hahahaha. Fine if you like that but that is literally not what was stated in the Manga. Fine if the author wants to develop these guys more but yeah just not going to do it for me. And this is obviously the reason we go with the original material, too many cooks and things get overblown. Have to accept this sort of stuff in Comics and things but it challenges consistency and has to be separate. Neither was that stated in the novels.

Can completely understand why he would want to do that. Doesn't really change that this whole thing reeks of inconsistency with a story he already put to paper. It also show a severe case of too many cooks in the kitchen because the novels are messing with things entirely unrelated to his illness time period and such. Now I hope you get enjoyment out of the novels as per their intention but doesn't mean its consistent. So far it is consistent. This is also not a case of too many cooks. All the information Narita gives, comes directly from Kubo. Kubo discusses the events of the novels in Bleach Jet and treats them as completely canon. Nothing Narita revealed is not from Kubo. TLA76 wrote: The book and everything it reveals is canon and as I said it's a lot Sorry but we have very strict Canon policies for the sake of consistencies. Which a lot of what is said is not consistent with what was already on paper. The Novels can be on the wiki but they need to be separated out properly. So far everything is consistent. You just make it out to be inconsistent when it really isn't. Honestly, before you criticize the novels so much, you should read them yourself, instead of just bullet points. Literally, how convenient that everything is now "lies". That's called a retcon. That was already heavy implied in the manga, when Yhwach stated that Soul Society was created by the Shinigami or when Yhwach called his castle Wahrwelt, aka True World and his entire plan was to bring back the world to how it previously was. Even the Kaisergesang stated that he will reclaim the world.

Literally again, could have been established before Kubo's health deteriorated but it wasn't. And again a whole mix up. We have literally seen her regenerate the entire upper half of a persons body and have them not be a corpse be rejecting the effects time and events have had upon them. There was no need to touch these abilities as we seen her struggle with Ulquiorra's deathblow to Ichigo and Yhwach's actions against the SK. Again smells of too many cooks. Nothing the novels stated contradict the events of the manga. This is not a case of too many cooks. If I'm honest, this sounds if you want to discredit the novels as much as possible. The novels only said that Orihime can't heal something if there are no traces left and if the time limit is up, which is at least 24 hours long. How does that contradict the manga? Oh really?? Where were they conveniently hiding when Aizen slaughtered the rest of them?? When Rukia was being sentenced to death?? Again this did not need to be touched and was way before his health took a hit. Except this was already stated before. They are talking about the new C46 that was established after Aizen was defeated. We see the new 46 in the manga. And the events were shown in the Kira short story. Then why not just say this stuff instead of becoming a murderer?? Why not explain it to Komamura his friend instead of spouting maniacal stuff about revenge being true justice?? Because its, like above, a retcon that is inconsistent. It is not a retcon. Tosen's main motivation was revenge. The truth about Soul Soul Society was why he believed to follow Aizen.

Again, convenient that. Its, again, a retcon. Again, that was already heavy implied in the manga, when Yhwach stated that Soul Society was created by the Shinigami or when Yhwach called his castle Wahrwelt, aka True World and his entire plan was to bring back the world to how it previously was. Even the Kaisergesang stated that he will reclaim the world.

If this story had to be a thing why did it need to involved Ichigo?? Why couldn't it have made MORE sense and been related to say, Yamamoto releasing his Bankai for first time in a long time and him causing it. Why does it need to be thrown into Ichigo. Because there is a reason for why the Sword is with Oetsu and not in the Seretei. This doesn't need to be messed with again. It was perfectly fine with Yhwach just being a crazy maniacal person who wanted to destroy the realms until Mimihagi foiled his plans. Now we need to add "act of mercy" despite his words of a clear sociopath throughout the entire arc. Seriously. How dare Yhwach become a character who is complex and has nuances. Again, that comes directly from the manga. When Yhwach met the Soul King, he stated that he will end the lifelong humiliation he had to suffer. When they arrive in the Soul Palace, he calls it a rotten graveyard and Haschwalth believes that Yhwach is shaken with fear. When they fight Ichigo, Yhwach tells him, that Ichigo is soon to be crushed by the gears of fate and offers to at least end his life before that happens. Also, why do you think was Yhwach so confused that Mimihagi was against him?

Yeah this was clear from his enjoyment over the realms beginning to fall apart. Clearly this was not the intent at all. He literally stated in the manga that he is going to end the lifelong humiliation his father had to suffer. --- So yeah I am done with all this. Your intent was to prove something when you revealed something else. If his health and rushed ending was the reason for any of this sudden ripping apart his own canon then he wouldn't have touched stuff that happened LONG before he ever got ill.

What all this reeks of is a stunt in creativity and trying to wipe a lot of what he already established in order to promote more creativity from somebody else.

I have no problem with this being placed in the relevant articles but none of this implies depth. It shows a lot of outside influences forcing changes that were not needed and reeks of massive amount of inconsistencies. Its fine if people enjoy this as it is entertainment created to be enjoyed but damn if its not all just silly and contrived to me. Not to be rude but it sounds like you remembering what happened in the manga wrong and blaming the novels for disagreeing with your headcanon.