User talk:Arrancar109/Archive03

Tia Hallibel
Okay, in the english dub, her name is Hallibel, pronounced "Hal-ee-bell". It was for some reason however, spelled with only one "L". I know because I put it on captions when I watched the episode with her in it this saturday. If you have DVR, then I suggest that you watch the episode where the espada gather and put it on captions and read the captions while you watch the episode. I was surprised and so happy about it!

Plus, really, just because her last name is pronounced Hariberu in Japanese doesn't necessarily mean that her name is Harribel. I mean, the letter "L" doesn't exist in the Japanese language, along with the letter "C", so how do we know her name isn't "Hallibel"?

Like I said, watch the episode with captions. Oh, and his name is Szayelaporro as refrenced by Shonen Jump and the captions, although we know it has a space in it... and apparently, the black guys' name is Zommori, now Zommari. Hmm... dubs are very strange!

Amagai
Well since the original issue was posted back when we had almost no admins and/or set organization other than posting the question an having however wnated to answer give their opinion, it was left as such for a long time. However now that we opted more organization an trying to use offical names rather than un-official close translaions his name should be Syūsuke. And I'll actually have to disagree on you on the way his name is spoken on the series (can't say anything on video games for him, since i haven't see or played any game that he appears) but the way the name is pronounced is in three sylabels as opposeed to two Sy-ūs[u]-ke rather than Shūs[u]-ke the second is silent both times. However if you think we need to look into it some more I'll agree to it. WhiteStrike 07:29, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree we'll talk it out with him an come to an agreement on it. I seriously doubt we'll need anyon else to be involved on it. WhiteStrike 07:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well Salubry says he is not to well informed in the subject, I'm a more inclined toward using Syūsuke since is the only written form of his name that I seen, but I'll leave it to you to either decide on your own or ask the other users you had in mind for their imput, either way I'll agree with your decision on this one. WhiteStrike 17:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Well from what you have shown I would think we should go about it like this. Being that we are a wiki based on western standard I would go for the spelling without the y as we have not been using the japanese interpretations or standards in the naming scheme as its confusing to westerners, nor should we start now. It is quite obvious the way japanese spell the name in the english format is somewhat different but they are using second hand knowledge of english spelling in either case be the way we spell it or theirs the meaning is still that same, so its ok to leave it like we have it. Thats my vote.Salubri 04:42, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I check both links you left in page and I guess the real question boils down to if we go with how the Japanese would spell it or how we would spell it. If it where any other manga or anime Shusuke would be my choice hands down, but Bleach is a little different. Lets take for example the Arrancar names are meant to be more of a spanish theme, however someone who speaks fluent Spanish (my self for example) would not spell their name as such. Since Bleach series in general has a disting way of naming their charaters, like using extra letters where not needed (Ggio when it could just be Gio, Nnoitra when it sounds more like Noitora) is what leaves my with the spelling of Syusuke being more correct in this case. Also I watch the game video and a couple of scenes from the anime where he says his name and I didn't see any diference in the way he proounces his name. WhiteStrike 10:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Ulquiorra's Segunda Etapa
Isn't it plausible that Ulquiorra's Segunda Etapa is similar to a Bankai? For 2 reasons. 1: He's an Arrancar, so he gained a Shinigami's Zanpakuto and Powers. It makes sense that he'd be capable of Hollow-like Bankai. 2: They commonly refer to Resurrecion as "release", like Shikai and it has a Release Command. It's just a theory and I was wondering if you though it made sense. WestleyCole 14:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Zanpakuto arc
Well that's kind of good question. I guess since the Amagai arc was going at the same time as the manga was in Hueco mundo and we have it after the Hueco mundo it would make sense to place this info after the FKT arc. WhiteStrike 17:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Preferred Style
I have a quick question for you. I referenced the Bleach_Wiki:About page, and I see that Shinigami, Arrancar and Hollow are captizalized. Is it the admins' perference, then, that Vizard also be capitalized? I see that it's applied inconsistently throughout articles, and when I make edits, I thought it'd be nice if I could make changes to fit this wiki's preferred style regarding the word Vizard as well. Twocents 00:56, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to check if you made a decision regarding this. :) Twocents 05:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. :) I understand that you have other things to do than attend to my anal-retentiveness regarding consistency in style. Thank you very much for replying, and I'll consult the other admins as well. Twocents 06:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Other people's comments
Well it was just for my user page...Priyam abigail 19:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much....will doPriyam abigail 20:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes I did it again..what function? I don't even know myself.. read some info on uploading images and just followed instructions... first I save images to my desktop and then while editing upload the image then insert it.. i will do what you told me to next time right now i'm too tired to argue thank you for checking on me !!!!!Priyam abigail 21:29, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Well you've got to check on me later too because I HAVE GOT TO SLEEP i'm in India and it's already three in the morning...will get back to you tomorrow i.e Indian timePriyam abigail 21:49, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I believe in pairings a lot too. I think that Ichigo and Rukia are going to end up together. Ishida and Orihime, Yoruichi and urahara, and Hinamori and Hitsugaya. Viz media could have done a lot better on the dubs. Johnny yong bosch and Michelle Ruff are good. Toshiro needs help. Steve Staley did really well for Hisagi though. It beats me. I am in love with toshiro and Ichigo!

sorry that last message was from me, anjetti23.

Hollow Ichigo
i just want to say he is a hollow and i can prove it with two reasons: its in his name and it is saied by the Vizards that Ichigo must defeat the 'hollow ' inside of him and even its any type of hollow {Arrancar,Inner Hollows, ext.} its still a hollow.

RE:Hyorinmaru
Ok this is somewhat of a ridiculous notion in my opinion. Hyorinmaru is one zanpakuto owned by Hitsugaya. The movie is not canon and nor is it relevant seeing as even in the instance of the other guy it is stated that while exceedingly rare its not entirely impossible for two shinigami to possess the same zanpakuto though its against the law. Hyorinmaru the spirit has its own page for obvious reasons of the arc. There is no reason for a disambiguation page. Hyorinmaru should link either to Hitsugaya or hyorinamru's spirit page and not to some one time movie character who really doesn't matter whatever info about hyorinmaru is on his page but not relevant to the wider scheme of manga and anime. Thats my take.Salubri 05:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

New pages
I'm working on another wiki right now that only has 10 articles, but I created a new page about the actor who voices the main character and am I allowed to that because frankly the five who are the only ones on that wiki are barely if not ever available so I needed to ask an admin.--SalmanH 13:28, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Alright thanks for the help.

HI!
HI! Thanksfor the message and the welcome! ^^

Hey
I'm thinking that the point is not getting across with the one guy on the talk page for kido and hachigan if you could back me up a bit so this doesn't end up crazy. Also I looked at the addition by ancient chaos on toshiro's page i personally dont think a reference going to the rival from the movie needs to be on his page as it has nothing to do with him its fine to link it to the zanpakuto spirit page but hyorinmaru's toshiro's not some non canon villian form the movie it doesn't need to have a link on his page.Salubri 05:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Well what i was referring to was the bakudo discussion on hachi's talk page and the unnecessary info talk on the kido page. Both issues come from the same person and im thinking he's not getting the concept thats why i asked for back up. As for the hyorinmaru thing theres already a link on the spirit page. Whitestrike and myself are against the disambiguation page so he made proper links on the spirit page as the other guy isn't really that important honestly but he has a link there as well.Salubri 06:20, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Editting
Hello! I Was Just Wondering....Ive Noticed Whenever I Make A Change On Any Character As if To Add A New Picture Or More About Them Its As If Someone Changes It Back...Is Their A Reason For that?

WHY?
Why do you keeping undoing my edits to the 13 Court Guard Squad members Trivia?

Extensive Editing
As you know I've been doing extensive editing and referencing on the pages in the past months, currently im doing Yoruichi's page and its literally more work then i had anticipated even compared to Urahara's or most of the captains. In any case this is like my second day of doing it and to escape having to deal with edits in the middle of the overhaul i temporarily locked the page, if u feel the need to you can take it off but if you could leave it, it would be good so i can finish up and then take it off when im done. Also i am concerned that the same thing might be necessary for Rukia, Ichigo & Renji's pages which im saving for last because they are so extensive. Just figured id let you know whats going on.Salubri 19:46, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Greeting Arrancar109
Hi there, just wanted to drop a message to say you, WhiteStrike and Salubri are doing heaps of editing lately, good job guys =D Just wondering if I've been of any help?AuronValentine 17:56, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Logic
What exactly is the logic behind reverting edits that only remove unnecessary data? All of them still go to the pages originally intended, they just do so by going through the redirects rather than having additional characters in the code. Ancient Chaos 23:43, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Archive template
Alright, sure go ahead.--SalmanH 16:31, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Help
Arrancar109, I need your help. SalmanH and I are trying to create a Samurai Jack wiki and we have hit a bump in the road; we can't make new pictures. We know how to use ones from other sites, we just don't know how to make our own and place them on the site. Can you help us or do you know anyone who can? Please reply.--Moe1216 19:22, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Follow up
Hey! i was wondering if you had come to a decision about one of us becoming the active Beaurocrat for this wiki. The past few months we have considerably increased the amount of trafic information that goes thru our wiki and i think we could use one or two more adminds to help. I been noticing some users that have become really active and are following and helping keep our rules for the wiki. Let me know what you got so far and for the record if you decided on yourself as being the one over Salubri or myself you got my vote then.

On another note have you amde your decision on Amagai's first name? Let me know what you got and thanks in advanced. WhiteStrike 23:10, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Navigation
Hachi's page isnt acting right the quotes and category sections arent coming up but they are there in the editing page im not sure what to do or even whats wrong.Salubri 06:14, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

fixed.Salubri 06:14, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Turns out when someone did the reference for the part they added on to the unique kido section they made it /ref> instead of the correct way. I figured after being totally stumped that was the only logical explanation turns out that i was right.Salubri 06:24, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Pluralization Guidelines
This was actually something that in the early stages of the wiki (more than a year ago) had been agreed upon. Words klike Shinigami, Vizard, Arrancar are not pluralized (no "s") while those like Hollows, Pluses, Humans are. The are some more words that are I would considered them to be the same for singular and plural but at this moment I can't quite recall. If you feel that some of these words should be or shouldn't let me know and when we have a concesus I'll be sure to add it to the manual of style. WhiteStrike 08:00, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * as for Vizard and Arrancar I see them both as being plural and singular, yspecies and the name of the group especially Vizard, and Arrancar is never used in context to be needed plurazation in the original japanese version. Well like I said tis is my opinion on the matter and if you belive it needs to be revised than we'll vote on it. WhiteStrike 08:30, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * So as seen in the newest chapter cover Tite Kubo has decided that the plural for of Hollow is Hollowes inatead of Hollows what we have been using, however it should also be noted that in chapter 70 he spelled it as Hollows. So what's your take on this do we keep it as we have it or is it time for a new do we roll with the new spelling. WhiteStrike 08:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Upcoming voice roles
It's on the "Latest News" section of her site with a picture, I honestly just googled her name and her official site came up first, for Michael Greco I had to add the word Bleach to it or I only got some photographer (hence the P. where he's credited in the article). I just checked Wikipedia and she doesn't have a page. The first place I check for any voice roles is the actor's official site. Ancient Chaos 02:46, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Permission
Actually, you have been quite helpful in matters like that and please don't think that you neglected me in any way it was just that I posted that message last night and when I looked at it this morning I didn't want you to feel uncomfortable by seeing a message like that.--SalmanH 05:41, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Senna Trivia Removal
Hey there,

Where would you recommend the trivia about Senna's musical theme be redirected to? Would it be better-placed under Memories of Nobody or Music? Thanks! --Stradiviper 14:37, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

RE:Question About the Movies
I think in the interest of space there is only room for what is relevant to the manga and anime episodes. The Movies and stuff along those lines aren't presented in the appearance in other media section and maybe the information should just stay where it is as you have suggested. On the other hand the alternative is to allow that information to presented as a link on the character page (under appearance in other media) specifically for that information. But no i don't think that their is room for that information. for example Ichigo's page is big already and will only get larger as the storyline goes on, the more important information should be highlighted. So either it stays where it was previously as you suggested or my alternative but not directly on the character page.Salubri 03:09, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Zabimaru
Hey I just looked at the Zabimaru (spirit) page and how could it have been possible that Renji made zabimaru "submit" to him if he didn't know about that form from before?--SalmanH 06:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

That about sums it up, thanks.

Kenpachis trivia
hi there,i edited the kenpachi trivia part,he has a lot of trivia because hes one of the most complex character in the series,i hope its ok what i edited,thanks in advance. User: Twelve

Souls
I had been tinking the same thing. Creating apage for souls and having pluses a subscetion of it would make sense. all pluses that move into soul society become regular souls and in the cycle of life everything pretty much starts out as a soul. That's my take on this let me know if this is what you meant or if you had something else in mind. WhiteStrike 15:32, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Admin
i was wondering if i could be admin and be allow to block or ban users and i want you to know im here to correct any mispellings if that's ok with you

Significant Battles
You may recall a couple of weeks ago in the forums there was an idea to create an article containing info on the major battles characters were involved in. Do you think this would be a good idea? I ask because none of the admins posted on the thread to say yes or no. TomServo101 13:13, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Scroll Box
An User left a message about putting a scroll box in the references for articles that have a large amount of them. I think is a good idea an I know how to go about doing it but I wanted to ask you what's your take on it before I do anything. WhiteStrike 06:40, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

list of users
Hi, I've only heard this once before and was confused by it what are Captains Captain commanders and Lieutenants on that list.--SalmanH 18:04, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Favicon
I have a silly question for you. When you added this wikia's favicon, about how long did it take to show up? I added one on a wikia I am the admin for (kuroshitsuji) about 20 minutes ago, and it's yet to appear. I just wanted to check to see if that was odd (and thus, perhaps I did something wrong in adding it that I need to investigate) or if that's pretty typical. I defer to your experience! Twocents 21:06, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

I need to tell you somethin.edit
Madnessdom. is removeing the voices of Aarnoiero Arunerie's page. I edit on there so I redo it. I hope that helps Arrancar sama. and also have a talk with Madnessdom. and Madnessdom is keep removeing the voices of Aaroniero's page again. can you tell him to stop. I hate redoing this. if so come to my page for a talk and also talk to that Madnessdom. later friend.. Eliskuya2 00:16, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Aizen revision
Hi, Just wondering why you reversed my Aizen Trivia revision. Kyouka Suigetsu is the only zanpakutou with psychological effects.Animeluvr92 01:51, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Main page
Hey im not sure who does the main page but its not me, but im concerned that is well into september and nothing of the current winner Lisa Yadamura is being featured. Shinji is still up and it seems out of place that nothings been done, regardless of her possibly having no picture featured in the manga pages.Salubri 18:46, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

thank you.. that was my first time trying to write anything in a site... can u cheak if i broken the Spoiler Policy. thank you

Shun Shun Rikka
No problem. I decided to leave it alone when SlashQueen mentioned the character book. From the appearance & voice, I thought it is a female (still kind of do), but the character book saying otherwise makes that doubtful. It is not something I care strongly about either. I won't change it again. --Yyp 09:49, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Skin changing
Alright, so i try to change the skin right? i pick slate and save changes. then it goes to it, and it looks good. But then once i go to a different page, it reverts back to this sapphire ugly blue crap.

the box next to let the admin override is unchecked. Yet it still happens... Why give me a choice if it wont really give it to me?!?!

clearing the cache/cookies does nothing. im in firefox--G3N3T1C 15:16, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Lisa
Hey, I saw on the Main Page that you were having trouble finding a picture for the Featured Article of the Month. I spent a bit of time looking around in the manga, and I can see your issue - Tite doesn't seem inclined to give her a full page like the other characters we've featured! But I found a couple of pages that might work, if you want to take a look: Unfortunately, those were the largest pictures of her I could find in about 30 minutes of searching where the quality was at least okay, and there wasn't a bunch of stuff over her or in the background. I hope this can at least be of some use, so she can at least spend 2/3 of her month in the feature! Twocents 17:13, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/218/17/
 * http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/218/14/
 * http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/366/13/


 * Glad to help out! And no worries. The favicon eventually showed up - about eight hours after I asked you about it. I guess I just got a little anxious, haha. Thanks again! Twocents 17:31, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Updates
I updated several character bios with genuine facts from numerous japanese sites which gain access to the manga issues alot earlier then usual american manga sites. I was wondering why when I update set characters with pictures and info someone changes all the info back a few minutes later. I provide images with the details, such as my latest edit on Starrks wolf abilities. Yet its still changed back without proper warning or reason.

Gotei 13
May I ask why you reverse my edit on the Gotei 13 page? It wasn't vandalism now was it incorrect. It was only a small fact added to the trivia section.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 22:04, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, and i will.

Favicon
I was thinking about it and the administrators should change the Favicon to something more suitable for Bleach. I am not sure what is up right now, but it appears to be Ichigo. However, a Favicon should be a symbol to represent the wiki. Don't you think?--Kylecharmed 19:31, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Apache
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Strassman look--a17280fdec998b452275c942c7dfe2cb 04:37, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Karakura rizer
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/249/20/ this page shows kon dressed as karakura rizer even though it was a tiny and basically random image does it count as canon well as far as Kon goes even though he did nothing and no explanations were written, but just in case.--SalmanH 20:06, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

could you stop please
I stated a theory about wonderweiss being a vasto lorde and it was kept,but recently,you decide to delete it,why?you deleted again also,its not fair. User: Twelve

Soifon image
Please do not revert the image. Soifon's pic hasn't been updated since Soul Society arc and that current anime art style is very different. Plus the newest picture I just uploaded is actually slightly better resolution. So unless you have a very good reason to revert things, please refrain from doing so. Thank you. Tinni 23:54, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

I'll try and find a better pic for Soifon but I am not sure what the problem with the latest Aizen pic is,. It's a hell of a lot better then the old one. Which makes him look incredibly weird. You can't honestly tell me the one I replaced him with is not better then that old disgusting Aizen pic. Tinni 00:15, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I think we can all agree that a lot of the profile pics are old and dated. Most of them are from Soul Society arc for crying out loud! They don't even look like that in the manga any more. Tinni 00:26, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, very good! Tinni 01:34, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Images
Well, I'd love to help you out with getting new profile pics. I see Tinni has presented a variety of new Gin options, and I was thinking about looking for a new Byakuya one. I wouldn't mind the current one, if it wasn't so blatant that it's two images put together. It really annoys me. ;-; Before I go looking for a new image, I wanted to know what you thought about replacing that one? I mean, if you're in love with it, I won't bother, but if not, a new one might be nice. Particularly if it doesn't have such clear errors. Twocents 04:05, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! That's a great option (and much easier!) I have to head to bed now, but if there are any in particular that you'd like to me to look for, so we can break up the work load a bit, I'd be willing to work on it tomorrow. ^_^ Twocents 04:16, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

can I ask you something
can I update my manga picture on my page, just let me know on my page Arrancar samaEliskuya2 04:32, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Administrative
Hey I know you and whitestrike had conversed about this previously but I figured Id bring it up as im noticing a need for it even more. We need at least 2 more administrators to help out. I think a short list of potential candidates would be good to come up with and until mili-cien can get back on here (whenever that is) we can all decide and give those we choose rollback abilities until they can become full admin and then also we can see about getting one of us to be a bureaucrat as well because this is crazy mili-cien hasn't been on in like i dont know how many months but its a issue, and on that note where has whitestrike been?Salubri 05:31, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * TL;DR, Yes, RL keeps me busy due to school and other things. I'll hopefully soon have some time to get back on the wiki, but at the moment, it's quite hard and so far your work is amazing there. I took the time to give you both Sysop&Bureaucrat rights while I'm there as you probably saw. Meh, it seems to be all.(Sleepy wins, copy/paste scores.)

Ok so now ive put together a short list of possible candidates that we can discuss so far i've looked at Twocents, Yyp, and Tinni. Let me know what you think.Salubri 06:39, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Well possibly look at changing it to whats most common is my best guess, i believe that is the one without the 'Y'.Salubri 06:56, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Edits
Hey while your on i wanted to ask you, you know how I have did the references and maintenance on alot of pages. Now im going mostly on the shinigami and vizard first and foremost and im almost done. But i wanted to get your take on what you think are the top 3 pages that need the most work. Besides (Ichigo, Renji and Rukia, cause im not sure i even want to touch those.Salubri 14:14, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I really enjoyed the English dub of Bleach
I truly love the English voices of Bleach. Are you there, Arrancar109? Dekoshu talk contrib 15:49, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

A lot of things. It's incredible that not one Shinigami was defeated by the top 3 Espada. Dekoshu talk contrib 16:07, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Anyways, I am not happy with the Espada died at all. Only a few Shinigami like Kaien Shiba have actually died. Is this true? Dekoshu talk contrib 16:21, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Also, if you see the other anime, some of the heroes actually died or defeated by the villains. Dekoshu talk contrib 17:00, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Shunsui Kyoraku said that it'll go bad either way, so that even if the Captain Shinigami ACTUALLY died, it would only make Aizen's goal easier. Dekoshu talk contrib 17:29, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

To be perfectly honest, the only Shinigami who I won't say should lose to the Espada is Ichigo Kurosaki, because he already got defeated by Grimmjow and Ulquiorra. Dekoshu talk contrib 17:43, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Hi; I see you've reverted a number of edits I made to Zangetsu's page. How come? Did I do something wrong? *is new*

..(oops, so new I forgot to sign this.... sorry!) Infiniteviking 16:20, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

RE:Multiple Accounts
Well im not sure is whoever is doing it disrupting the site or something cause if thats the case then maybe we should.Salubri 23:31, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see! Hm, so would such information be more properly placed on Ichigo's page? Or if the Zanpakuto spirit pages are strictly for filler information, should zans with spirit forms that have appeared in the manga have separate pages for those forms and personalities? Some significant Zangetsu characterization has gone on outside the filler arc, and the Zanpakuto with greater amounts of character development -- unlike, say, Katen Kyokotsu, whose description only takes up the paragraph or two it took in the manga -- might clutter up their wielders' pages. Infiniteviking 00:36, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Hanataro Yamada Article
I hate to dump this on you, but figured you were the better admin to approach since you have worked on the article recently. Basically there is a bit of a situation brewing over that article. User:Daisekihan is insisting on modifying Hanataro's release command to "Fill" instead of "Fulfill" and he's not happy with the compromise. He's pretty much threatened to keep changing it to what he wants. I told him not to and reasoning as to why we aren't going with just what the dub stays in the talk page as a reply to his comment. But of course that doesn't mean he's going to listen to me. Especially since I have now gone back and removed the bit he added to the bit about Kon being able to use Hanataro's zanpakuto without knowing the name. So can I please ask that you keep an eye on that article and take appropriate action depending on circumstance. Thanks. Tinni 05:16, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * User:Daisekihan wants an official admin input into the affair, so if it's isn't too much trouble can you drop a few lines in Talk:Hanatarō_Yamada clarifying the official position. Thanks. Tinni 06:17, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * It's fine. I just thought I would bring this to admin attention before it turned into a cycle of change-revert-change-revert again. Incidentally if you are going to talk to Salibur you might want to mention that User:Daisekihan has reopened the Vizard/Visored issue again and while in that case it'll take a lot more to impose his will because changing Vizard to Visored is not a matter of just changing one article but that can get out of hand as well. Tinni 06:36, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Return
Hey! I'm back sorry for leaving with out telling either of you two that I was going to be gone for a while. I see that many changes have been happening since I was gone, and I'm a little lost at the moment. I'll review the recent changes for the last week or so to try to catch up to what has been happening and if you guys are working on anything at the moment and need help with it just let me know. I'll be on like before now and once again sorry for not telling you guys, I saw that the Featured Article took sometime to get updated, since is something I usually take care, but something kind of came up and well you know. WhiteStrike(talk) 09:19, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * First of all, I guess congratulations are in order and I'm glad we now have someone to fill the Beaurocrat billet that we been needing. Well I check the three users you asked me and from what I see Yyp would be a good choice to concider. I had seen his work before and he is someone that could help fill our hole. As for the other two Twocents maybe but he might need just a bit more experience and not too sure on Tinni. On another note I have noticed some changes in the volume articles (i.e. The Death and the Strawberry) and I got to say I don't like the way they look now. The info is much too crowded into one page, especially with the scroll box added to it. I haven't done anything to them seeing as how I was gone for a while and you or Salubri might have seen this change and decided is better. As I said not really liking the new format and would like to hear some feadback from you on this. WhiteStrike(talk) 21:40, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

October's Featured Article
Hey Arrancar109, I'd just like to say that I'm really glad that Starrk is this month's featured article; However, I can't help but dispute that his preview profile in this wiki's main page is inefficient, and I have two pretty good reasons why:


 * 1.) Starrk's profile in the main page is outdated; I mean, his introductory description should have been at least around the time when he fought against Love and Rose using his most powerful move: The Wolf Pack (NOT when he just released his Resurreccion). Lisa, who was featured last month (which also made me happy), on the other hand, was introduced efficiently as her latest action during September was with Hiyori aiding Hitsugaya in battling Harribel.
 * 2.) If Starrk was July's Featured Article, his profile would most probably be the current post in the main page (releasing his Ressurreccion), which was up-to-date during that time.

I hope that Starrk's profile would be further updated and I'd be grateful if you'd reply back on your comments, suggestions, or if you have any questions regarding my message (should there be a need for clarification). Thanks for your understanding and keep up the good work; You're helping fellow users like me much better now.:)--Ethelion 03:46, October 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't sweat it. Thanks for getting back to me.:)--Ethelion 02:48, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Best Bout
Hey! as you know last the chapter of Bleach had an announcement about a Best Bout contest. I would like for us to have a similar thing on our Wiki. Have a poll similar to the Featured Article of the Month one and let users vote on their favorite fight, run the poll for a whole month and place it in the main page. I wanted to do this since most users don't have a chance to vote in the Weekly Shonen Jump poll and this gives them a chance to express themselves. Let me know what you thing about it. WhiteStrike(talk) 05:12, October 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok I'll set up the poll, add a couple of the what I consider to be the most interesting fights and let you an Salubri add the rest as well as leave it open for any user to add their favorite match to the list. Also had you had a chance to look at the Volume articles just wondering wht your opinion was on those changes made. WhiteStrike(talk) 05:30, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Benihime
I apologize if I violated the spoilers policy, but since there is already a full summary of the film's plot up on its own independent page I reasoned that information from it was open to usage now. Please let me know when I can restore the edit. 12Div4Seat 08:34, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Benihime
Alright, thanks again for the help. I'm just getting started around here. 12Div4Seat 08:44, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I need your help. I was editing Tia's page, and I accidentally got rid of the pic of her. But here, I have one to replace it, but I can't get it to go on.

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6500000/halibel-bleach-anime-6550863-640-480.jpg

Please help!

Multiple Accounts
If this guy continues then find out if he is using the same email address. It shouldn't be too hard since he is just using nothing but numbers. Email him & ask why he is doing that & if he doesn't respond then he should be blocked.

Zaraki kenpachi
Hi Arrancar109 the user Jergunawan12, really messed up the Kenpachi page the existing edits are the infobox the image and the top everything else is gone. As well as the Tite Kubo page.--SalmanH 08:37, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Rukias Pic
I'm sorry. I was trying to change it to a better pic. Thank U for fixing my constant screw-ups. Minato88 18:42, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Oh sorry. I didn't know. It just sometimes bugs me to see people post something without leaving their name after. Minato88 01:48, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Ichigo's Determination
Definitely. *nodnod* I know it's been there for so long - even before I signed up because I used to lurk before I made an account - which is why I think there was a specific reason for keeping it there, but I can't recall what that reason was. However, with the recent questioning over its placement in his article - and people trying to add similar things to other articles - I think it'd be good if maybe you, WhiteStrike, and Salubri can add it to you to-look-into list (that is probably, unfortunately, already quite long!). Twocents 19:16, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

about the page of dark rukia
do you know how to create a gif image from the rmvb video? i hope to create some gif image in this page... if you know, can you teach me?

Hello there, i hope im not bothering u but im new at this and i added some info on relations on Renji(Byakuya). I just wonder if u could check if its okay cause i dont reallu know how to do or so but thats just if u have time or so. Thanks for ur time and have a nice day:P --Gute fjut 01:52, October 4, 2009 (UTC)(Gute_fjut)

Battle history
Hi there, Arrancar 109. I've been toying with the idea of creating tables for the main characters, especially the ones who've had more than 3 or 4 battles, detailing the specifics of the battle: The enemy fought, the location of occurrence, which allies may or may not have been there helping or watching, the corresponding chapters and/or episodes in which the battle appears and miscellaneous relevant comments.

I had prepared a pilot table for Byakuya Kuchiki, and attempted to edit it in between the relationships section and the quotes section. I failed miserably! The table just went nuts on me. I tried to find a help section about editing tables but couldn't find it anywhere.

Anyways, now that the manga is holding a "best bout" poll, my idea seems more relevant then ever. I had even considered foregoing the table Idea and just create a series of articles about battles, but that would entail the creation of a whole new template from scratch of which I wouldn't even know where to begin.

Please tell me what you think of my ideas and refer me to relevant help pages I might have missed (about editing new tables and templates), or have them created if they don't exist as they are sorely needed.

Many thanks in advance --Weedefinition 15:49, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

thanks
finally that's all i need to know. i'm not a vandal so please if there's something wrong with my edits tell me and what do youy mean by "spaces"? Shiny-gami 17:15, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Suzumebachi
Apparently the original source of the pics of Suzumebachi that we had up are changed now making the picture horrible. It really sucks considering how good the picture was but in any case we need to have a better picture up there now so let me know whats going on cause i couldn't find anything i was sure of.Salubri 15:03, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Re: My Point
Okay, okay. I understand. It's just that I got offended when you capitalized your summary in the edit. No hard feelings.--Ethelion 07:13, October 7, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hehe, like I said, no hard feelings. I sorry too that I jumped to conclusions regarding your edit summary. Peace man.:)--Ethelion 07:20, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

tman7776 here
I got your message about Bleach the 3rd phantom. I used an emulator, so I have no clue on that.

By the way, which captain (besides Gin, Aizen, and Tousen because, they're evil lol) is the least seen in the series? I already know the least seen vice captain is Sasakibe. I think the least seen Captain is Komamura, but I'm not sure

Tman7776 01:32, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Filler Arcs
I been thinking about the filler arcs. Since that they are not happening chronologically, they should be put at the end of the character's article.

For example:

Ichigo Kurosaki

Agent of the Shinigami Acr Soul Society Arc Bount Arc Arrancar Arc Hueco Mundo Arc Fake Karakura Arc

Filler Arcs Captain Amagai Arc Zanpakuto Tales Arc

It's just an idea. --Shinitenshi 04:11, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ichigo's Relationships page
You're welcome. Other than Hirako's section, it wasn't actually too bad to clean, just time-consuming. There was so much fanon/speculation etc in there that there's probably bits that got missed, but its a step in the right direction. We just need to prevent it from getting out of control again, which should be easier now. --Yyp 20:57, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing
Sure no problem. Truth be told when I woke-up this morning I was horrified to find all the edits too since I checked One Manga and couldn't see anything. But then I noticed Salibur was also making edits so I thought to myself "ok the chapter must be up somewhere". It was only because Yyp left the link on the talk page that I figured out what was happening. I am a member of Bleach Exile but I didn't even think to check it since one manga is usually the first with the chapters. Lesson learnt for me too! Tinni 05:03, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Current Story
just wanted to let you know that the current story section on the main page hasn't been updated in a few weeks.Soul reaper magnum 17:59, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Hey Arrancar109 I do not know if you remember me but I was already a member on this wiki but I signed up as a new member because I was having a lot of trouble lately with editing and I thought that changing my ID would help...By the way my old Username was Priyam Abigail and you helped me out with uploading images....well I hope that jogs your memory...I thought that I was having trouble with editing because I had forgotten to post the link after I had signed up and because of my mischievous sister who deleted all of my mail I couldn't do so anyway is it alright for me to keep on using this Username????Abigail16 19:26, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you and don't worry I'm a very dedicated Bleach fan ,you won't have to worry on my account...byeee

Urahar's trivia Item
I may have made a mistake about Harribel injuring Aizen, but why did you delete that Trivia Item about Urahara slashing Aizen's badge? I didn't put it there I only edited it today but it was there before. You might have just undone it instead of deleting it, I would have done it myself but its much better if you do it. I think you get hit by lightning if you undo an admin's revision :) --Weedefinition 20:52, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Aizen-injury trivia
Oh. I don't really mind, I just thought you delted it thinking it was some BS I put in to amuse myself. I'm not like that. I might make mistakes from time to time but they are all honest. Peace!--Weedefinition 21:05, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hinamoris Blurry Pic
Arrancar 109, I know you're really good with pics. So I figured i'd ask u to see if u can fix Momos character pic. Its a good pic, but its become blurry because of the compression. Minato88 06:21, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Yumichika's Trivia
can we not include things that are from the anime? if then can i just write anime only? --KazeHanabi 06:39, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Metastica
Yes in the manga he stayed in the woods and all that information in the section is from the manga, except some insert (by taking control of her and having her kill her subordinates, Kaien became enraged and wanted revenge because the hollow had sullied her pride by making her kill the very subordinates that cared so much for her.) that was put in by that KazeHanobi guy. But ill remove that cause she wasn't even really in the manga the situation came up after she was dead and he was just mad.Salubri 07:10, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Response
Works for me. I knew u had a good reason for doing that & I knew u would respond to my question. Thanks for explaining this to me. Minato88 22:59, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Is there anyway u can protect certain images on certain pages. Cause I recommend Grimmjows page(& now Byakuyas) since like every other day somebodys trying to change Grimmjows image. Minato88 23:24, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Bummer. Still if this crap keeps happening on Grimmjows page I recommend protecting it. I left a message on his discussion page asking for people not to change his image as it is fine the way it is(But they just ignore it). Minato88 23:57, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Chapter 378
Hi, just to let you know that this weeks chapter is out on Bleach Exile and MangaHelpers already but not on OneManga. http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-391.html Tinni 23:32, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Advancement and Upgrading
So I have been looking over various wiki sites as of late and have noticed some really interesting things that I think would advance this site as well.


 * 1> I think the information for alot of stuff should be more up front, now I know the basic problem is how to accomplish the changes in the first place but I think we can work it out. So I propose we have something that really stands out to promote to members and new users what the Spoiler Policy is and what the Manuel of Style is as they seem to slip right by it on the regular bases besides those we inform.
 * 2> Namely a Official Policy Page connected through the community. (Layout guide, Spoiler policy, manuel of style, voting policy, image policy)
 * 3> Also the community portal could be more advanced with a section for Pages in need of improvement (stubs, pages under construction and pages in need of editing)
 * 4> Also the community portal could be more advanced with a section for Pages that may be needed (pages the are being considered for construction)
 * 5> Also the community portal could be more advanced with a section for Current news happening about the series and the wiki
 * 6> Also the community portal could be more advanced with a section for Voting listings (possibly, have yet to determine entirely what we should be voting on).
 * 7> Under community a page for voting so that the members can understand how voting works and maybe have color templates for voting three ways (support, oppose and neutral).
 * 8> Get some different colors (bleach related colors, still needs to figured out) in the wiki instead of it being so bland.
 * 9> Probably the most radical proposal of course is are own version of the central 46 chambers except much smaller (say a group of 5 people the admin vote on every two months that have the task of settling disputes and maintaing quality of the site) this way less pressure on the admin and the site isn't deconstructed by every trivial piece of information commonly found in the quotes, trivia, powers and abilities section.

Just put thoughts tell me what you think.Salubri 05:42, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Hollow pic
The image which shows Ichigo transformed by his inner hollow which defeated ulquiorra is missing from the fake karakura section.--SalmanH 18:50, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Espada Status
Hi, I made a change to the status of Harribel, but someone changed it back, saying that you said no one can make changes to any of the Espada's status. I was wondering if this is true, and if it is, why? --Oblivion1 19:02, October 16, 2009 (UTC)Oblivion1


 * Arrancar109, I'm the one who changed it back & i said u asked that no 1 change it, not that they weren't allowed. Minato88 19:06, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, miswording on my part. But I have some things I want to change about some of the Espada's status, but I want to get permission from you, so if I were to put them up, it would be okay. Is this alright with you??? --Oblivion1 00:58, October 17, 2009 (UTC)Oblivion1

Okay, you have the page as it is based on the information at hand. That's cool, just making sure, thanks. --Oblivion1 01:43, October 17, 2009 (UTC)Oblivion1

New image
Hey couldn't you put in some new images forKuchiki Byakuya because it seems he does not have any from the new arc and the Zanpakto Unknown Tales Arc section on his page does look a bit too monotonous.. if you think other wise then I guess its alright anyway I thought it would give the page a little freshnessAbigail16 20:05, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Guess you didn't see my message because I was wondering because you did not get back to me about the images for Kuchiki Byakuya do let me know what you think...Abigail16 19:05, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

I saw this section for a new pic so I figured i'd post here. Recently a user has pointed out that Kenpachis character pic is still from the soul society & thought i'd ask u. I'm sorry, it seems like I always come to u with more work for u to do, but i'm not very good with pics(plus I can't find any newer ones for Kenpachi). Minato88 07:44, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Vizard Thanks
Hey Arrancar109, thanks for reverting back the edtis to my last one in the Vizard Page; It's staring to get annoying, change after change.--Ethelion 03:31, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hehe, you couldn't be more right. Thanks again.:)--Ethelion 03:50, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

yo
why do u keep deleting my edits. i havent done anything wrong im adding images of the characters from different arcs.

Jonathan Smith (JohnnyLightning)

SOO???
What did you think?Salubri 06:50, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for Welcoming Me!
Thanks for the Greeting! (You're the only one who has so far)^_^

What do you think of my contributions to the The Privaron Skirmishes Page?

--Saru Lunarjack333 07:55, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Can't seem to get rid of the weird blue-lined box on my User Page! What Do I Do?

Can Anyone help me?

--Saru Lunarjack333 22:52, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Screenshots for Byakuya Kuchiki
Hey I have uploaded two pictures for Byakuya Kuchiki's, Zanpakuto Unknown Tales Arc section ....well i took the shots myself its my first time so check it out for me I hope its alright and that you like it byieee.... sorry didn't wait for you to do it !!!!Abigail16 20:14, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

okie and sorry didn't know about the pics size and dont worry i wont make the pages look overcrowded and btw im not a dude .... thought everyone would know that Abigail is a girly name....hee hee!!!just kidding!!!but seriously i am a GIRL!!Abigail16 20:25, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

alright don't worry you won't hurt my feelings if you change the pics im just happy to help out and yes it would be weird if you called me a"Dudette"Abigail16 20:31, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Arc vs. Saga
In all honesty, saga is technically the right term to use for the manga story. Because long literary stories are referred to as sagas. However, arc is the term generally used for TV shows that have continuous stories or so I gather. I think CorpusDei main point was that "no one else is calling it saga". Of course I would question who the "no one else" is but that's another point. I personally think that the fact that we currently have the Turn-back the pendulum as "Turn Back The Pendulum Mini-Series‎‎" is actually a glaring error. It was no such thing. However, we can't really call Turn Back the Pendulum a saga because it's not long enough. So for consistency we should call them the "Shinigami Arc", "Turn Back the Pendulum Arc" and "Arrancar Arc". Tinni 05:59, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Oi, oi...
If you're gonna revert something, you'd at least better have a good reason...--NeutraVega 16:14, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Forums
I see you're online now so i felt like asking u something. Recently [User:Adminhater posted a rather unwanted forum telling u to kiss his ass. When i saw this I removed it & he sent me a notice demanding that I reinstate his forum, saying it was actually about censorship. U can look on his talk page cause I already left him my reply. I left u this message asking if I did something I shouldn't by removing a Forum?

Sorry forgot my title. Minato88 05:44, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

THANKS FOR THE WELCOME

Adding images
hey i was wondering if there is a limit to the number of images i can upload and insert in my user page because there seems to be a problem....i cant find the "add image"icon above the editing page...help i am LOST!!!!Abigail16 19:26, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Adding images
are you there...sorry to be disturbing you but I'm still facing the problem...feel guilty always burdening you with my petty problems but could you please look into it...sorry once againAbigail16 19:53, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Filler Arcs
Ok I have been thinking about this for a while now and seeing that it appears to be a ongoing issue to which there is no end I purpose that we handle the filler arcs by separating them from the main articles. While im fine with the anime as it for the most part with few acceptions follows the storyline of the manga, the filler arcs are an issue and we end up in useless arguments and tend to catch alot of flack for presenting with canon information. So what im thinking of is we have the appearance in other media sections on various pages and its more or less a paragraph of movie and video game stuff. We what i was thinking that we should do is make it a section for links to specific pages. (example: Ichiigo's page: we have a appearance in other media section and under there we have links that take you to the various pages for what his role was in the various movies and what abilities he displayed contrary to manga and anime, the same for the games and then the same for the filler arcs.) This way the most informative information about him canon and outside of canon can be seen with non canon stuff being show on separate pages linked to his page. This allows on the saving of space of the main article and also we are simply moving anime based arcs to their own page rather then placing them alongside canon when they really can't hold water to what kubo has written and drawn himself along with the anime made to be based directly on that work.Salubri 22:48, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Junk trivia Iba
You are correct. That is a junk trivia. Thank you for removing it. Tinni 04:47, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

The problem with that one isn't so much it's a junk trivia, people do seem to want to know about the meaning of the names. Problem is 1. consistency, 2. accuracy. In other articles, namely Matsumoto Rangiku's article, the explanation for her name is in her personality section. In terms of accuracy, I have read that "Ichimaru" can mean "one man", which combined with his first name "Gin", would mean "the one silver man". He is the only man with silver hair since Hitsugaya and Ukitake have white hair and Isane is female. I mean, Ichigo's article has a number of trivia relating to his names but those came directly from the manga were Ichigo explained the meaning of his name or talked about what his father said about his name. Then again, Rangiku's name meaning is also not sourced. So... it's not junk but... I say let's leave it in for the time being and see if anyone with knowledge of Japanese objects to it or not. Tinni 05:01, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I have been thinking about this since you mentioned it and I think the name related material, not just in trivia but in articles in general, should be removed not because they are junk but because they are speculation. Apart from Ichigo, I don't think Kubo ever explained what the names mean in the manga and while it's fun as fans to think about what the names might mean, it is just unverified speculation and we should treat it like we do all other types of speculation. I bought the topic up in the Forum:Junk_trivia thread, but I don't think anyone can disagree that most of the time the name meanings are speculation. Tinni 13:41, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Updates
Ok i updated the community portal, still needs some work as to the links but most of it is together and if you have any questions about what the links are for or anything just let me know.Salubri 07:55, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Adminiship
well what are we certain on Yyp and Twocents?

Also Did you get a chance to read my post i sent you about Filler arcs?Salubri 21:50, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks v. much. --Yyp 20:03, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Feature Article Vandalism
Just letting you know that Stark kenpachi vandalised the Feature Article page by removing the names of all the espada and the votes Yammy had received. I have restored the page. Tinni 01:08, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Main Page
Salubri and I have been talking about changes to the skin/main page. We thought we’d get your and Yyp's opinion on it as well.

To summarize:
 * Above the Featured Article of the Month, we thought there should be a box for the current events of the wiki. It could be archived and referred to on the community portal.
 * We thought we could add Featured Quote of the Month and Featured Picture of the Month as well. At the beginning of each month, we could start a fresh page (like Bleach Wiki:Featured Quote), and users could submit their favorite quotes/pictures, providing a specific page and character reference for the former. Other people could second a particular quote/picture and the one with the most votes wins.
 * We were also thinking of creating a specific color scheme, incorporating the site theme, character infoboxes, navigation boxes and the informative boxes on the front page, since they’re all in so many different colors (grey, purple, burgundy, blue, etc.) and it’d be hard to make a cohesive site theme without making those consistent as well.
 * Specifically, we think all of the navigations should use the same colors. It might be a bit boring, but then they’d all match and look nice. And we wouldn’t have glaring color schemes, like on Template:Dark Ones.
 * Then, we could make the character infoboxes and boxes on the front page using complementary colors to whatever colors are chosen for the navigations.
 * Once all of that is decided, then, we could make the site theme to complement the navigation and infoboxes. We figured this order would be best, since the site theme affects all users online, and we probably don’t want to be switching it up a bunch and driving people bonkers. :P

Thoughts? Twocents 17:27, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Redirects
I brought this up with Yyp and we thought we should get your opinion on it too. We've noticed that some users (in particular User:Lol pie and User:The_Shadow_Dragon) are making some redirects that may be pointless or confusing. I kind of wonder if those people are doing it for the sake of increasing edit count or what. But I don't think most of the recent redirects are intuitive, because they contain terms or weird variations on phrases that I've, at least, never seen used before on this wiki or elsewhere. Do you think there maybe needs to be a redirect policy? I'm fine with things like redirecting Chapter 128 to the official title of the chapter or whatever, but it's annoying to wade through pointless, and likely never-to-be-used, redirects to try to find pages/edits that need our attention.

Would it be worth talking to these users specifically about helping out with these while asking them to cut down on the number of re-directs? I know there are others who do it too, but not with the same regularity as The_Shadow_Dragon. I think some redirects are useful, but I'm not sure every possible variation of every chapter title, for example, is useful. If I was going to search for a chapter, I'd put "Chapter 13" or whatever. I wouldn't look up the chapter's kanji and search that way. I think the other problem is some of the redirects, like "Suspicion" or "Breathe" could relate to a variety of chapters or characters or other scenarios and it's not useful to redirect such a general word or term to something so specific.

Yyp also noticed that there are over 50 double redirects listed on the wiki's maintenance report. Twocents 17:31, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I'll look over the redirects for the last couple of days and see if there are any that I definitely think shouldn't be around - like the suspicion and breathe redirects I mentioned. I just don't think such a generic word should be used to point to something so specific. Salubri mentioned perhaps we should talk to them, but I'm still wondering about having some sort of official stance on it. That way, if it continues happening, we can point to the policy, and not have users thinking, "Well, it's just that one admin's opinion." You know what I mean? Twocents 18:22, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I've noticed how many times people post on your page to complain about you removing something obvious. I'll get together a general idea for a policy and then present it to you guys before making an official page.

I also went through and deleted the most obvious poor redirects, but there were some others I wasn't sure about. Since you have more experience, I'd feel better if you looked at them and decided if they should be removed or not. They are: Arrogant, Breath of Death, Great Fall, Downfallen Axe, Sound Ceremony, Sound Twins, Secret Tactics, Commander-in-Chief, For Assassination, and The Nocturne. Some of them took me a long time before I figured out why someone thought to use them as redirects. Then the latter few, I can see where he got the idea, I just could see people being accidentally redirected to a page they didn't intend to get to or them not ever being used. Twocents 18:36, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I could see some people searching for those terms and then wondering why they're on a character's page. I think I'd lean toward an article about it and then making sure there are links to Senna and the other terms you mentioned included in the article somewhere. Twocents 18:51, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I came up with a policy. I didn't know what to put for the "failure to follow" part, but I figured there should be some sort of consequences, or people won't care that the policy exists. Let me know what you think!Bleach Wiki:Redirect Policy Twocents 19:30, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Chapter 380
How soon after the release of a chapter do we wait until we update the current story on the homepage? I don't mind making the update, but since it seems like it just came out, I don't want to really ruin anything for people who haven't had a chance to read it yet. Twocents 19:06, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll go ahead and do so, then. I just wanted to be sure that there wasn't, like, a courtesy lag period or something.

As far as I know, onemanga updates first. Yyp told me the better translators take longer, while onemanga accepts the speediest translator. (Personally, I'm fine with reading something that has the gist of things, even if the wording isn't 100 percent precise.) Twocents 19:17, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

RE:Chapter 380 References
Oh ok well its ok its just as much as i do the references its just starting to piss me off that people add the information and dont reference it all over the articles for the zanpakuto are they are largely unreferenced. Salubri 04:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Spirit King
I noticed that the Spirit King page was recently created, but it seems like that information is already present on the Soul Society page. Should we leave the Spirit King page, then, and remove/modify the information on the Soul Society article, or delete the Spirit King page and just leave that info where it's currently at? Twocents 03:13, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks! Alright; I'll leave it to you then. Twocents 03:52, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Hitsugaya page revert
You recently reverted the hakuda edit that I put on Hitsu's page, saying that he didn't appear that early. Well, I would like to point out that he did.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/131/15/

Now I am not sure if the numbers that OM uses is different than the actual manga but this is my reference point for his hakuda. --Shinitenshi 21:07, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I did? Wow. I feel stupid. I really meant 131. So is it okay to put it up with the correct page ref? --Shinitenshi 21:58, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

wow
wow thats alot of stuff on one page but still coolRAZOR 16:25, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Arcs
Looked at the ate saga things and realized they are not entirely progressive and informative so I was thinking about making templates for Fights, Battles and Wars (where applicable). Then giving those areas their own pages in detail of the events that occurred, similar to a detailed plot line of what took place in the fight or battle respectively. Rather then having it simply listed as the arrancar saga or whatever it should probably have its official title even if it is multiple arcs stemming from the same main storyline, instead of shoving them together all under the one heading. Salubri 17:52, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Main Page
I was wondering if we were going to go ahead and move forward on the Featured Picture and Featured Quote idea. Since it is a new month, it'd be easy enough to start it this month, and then have the first picture and quote for December. And while I'm at it, is there someone who is specifically in charge of the featured article? Maybe there should be. I'd prefer it if we didn't spend a long time in between the start of the month to when we actually update it, especially since we're already getting people questioning where the new featured article is at on Talk:Main Page.

There was also a request to add the Special:NewPages link back to the front page. I could see how keeping a few high-use links there would be handy. Twocents 00:38, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Vandals
No prob. IEven if I were an admin I always try to give someone a chance to stop by asking before I blocking them, but thats just me. Overall u'or probably right, I doubt he would've stopped anyway. Minato88 05:26, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

RE:Template:Battles
Well the battles are for more over all fights between groups when i throw one together you'll better understand, but Template:Fights are what would be used for that and what i was thinking is either put Rematch or Final Fight or Part 1 or 2. It more depends on how you would look at the fight. The second fight between Ichigo and Renji would be a Rematch. Considerding the amount of time Grimmjaw fought Ichigo Part 1, 2 and Final Fight. 15:22, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Hey
What was wrong with my edit on the Ashido page? I thought it made things a little clearer grammatically. -- Tha Reckoning 20:14, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hey, it's Kiran! Thanks for editing that part about Tia Hallibel. It don't understand why whenever I go to edit something (or most times anyway) that damn glitch appears! ^^;

The wiki's use of Filler
Hi. User:CorpusDei has been posting about what he sees as the wiki's refusal to properly acknowledge filler as such. I have moved his posts to the inprovements/issues forum, here: Forum:Filler and Bleach Wiki and a few others have chimed in as well. In short, he is unhappy with what he sees as the lack of clear labelling of anime-only characters being filler and wishes to add a blurb (using Template:Filler) to the start of every filler characters profile saying that they are filler. He says he does not wish to change anything else about the articles at this point. He has added it to a few characters to show what it looks like (Aida, Aldegor, Shūsuke Amagai and Ashisogi Jizō (spirit)) and also created the Filler page. He has promised not to add it to any more until we get back to him about it.

It is very late here and I'm signing off now, but if you are making decisions about it, my feelings are that if it is just this blurb, then I'm fine with that. It doesn't look that great on the zanpakuto spirit pages that already have the bit talking about the shinigami that owns them. I would have been fine with just having the introduction mention that the character is an anime-only character (and they appear in an anime-only story arc, if applicable) as it already is on many of them. Together with the infobox saying anime only, the synopsis sections using the small print saying the arc is anime only and the categories, I think that is enough. --Yyp 02:11, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

No worries. I've just left the guy a summary of everything I could think of that we already do to separate canon & filler. It is quite a list and to be honest, I don't see anything else that can be done beyond what I wrote there. As far as I'm concerned, the matter is settled. Thanks --Yyp 14:12, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Arturo Plateado
That was just one image I wanted to upload. The second(was technically better)had some sort of an error & wouldn't go through. Overall, I like the image & it could be put on his page, but I'm neutral on whether it should be his main pic. Minato88 23:58, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but its no use. The wikia is saying the Extension is incorrect. The image is on crunchyroll.comlink title & its the only place I can find it. Maybe u or someone else could have better luck. Minato88 00:20, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah sorry bout that. I checked the link I gave u & i didn't realize how large the site was. Here is a direct link to the page. link title

Sounds really good. Sorry, if i had known u already had that image I would not have brought it up. Personally i don't know if either image is good for his main pic, but would look good somewhere on his page. Minato88 01:10, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Voice Actors
I didn't remove the other Spanish VA because I thought there was only one. I removed it because there's no source for it. When I asked Emmanuel for a source, the only semi-reliable one he listed was ANN. If there isn't a source for any of other Spanish VAs, then we shouldn't list them because it makes us look unreliable. I have no problem with them getting added back on once or if there's confirmation that those individuals did indeed do the Spanish dub, but until then, I think information that can't be referenced shouldn't be included, as is in line with our manual of style. Twocents 01:53, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

My problem with using another wiki as a source is that they have to get their information from somewhere and if they also can't say, "This is where the info came from" then using them as a source isn't any better than us just randomly guessing. I guess I'd rather err on the side of caution and not have all VAs listed when we can't check and make sure that's accurate.

And I'm not sure on those two. We didn't really get to hear them for very long, and I think they may have just been added as a best guess. Twocents 02:01, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I don't really know a lot about Spanish Wikipedia, but if you trust it, then I won't have a problem with it being used. As I told him, as long as he can reference a reliable Web site, I'm fine with it being added back on. Early, I was simply told that he "had his sources" and that's really not good enough for me. Twocents 02:12, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help and the trust, i remember you were the one that welcomed me here, so I didn't get all my information from another wiki, do you remember when you welcomed me from the Ichigo page?, well that information was from Spanish Wikipedia and ANN, the only source i got from another wiki (the Latin American dubs one), i was some new voices i founded there, and i was adding yesterday, but Twocents deleted nearly all my edits, and just let the ANN ones, so now, i'll not waste time again searching for all that, i also watched the latin american episodes (i have them), to confirm some voices i know, just to help, and now, nearly all my help is going to the trash,and i think this wiki doesn't have to be 100% perfect, if i find something's bad, i come and fix it, step by step, thanks.

Images
I noticed that the picture was changed to one of him at nighttime. It's not a bad picture, but considering how many scenes there are of Byakuya during the daytime, I just think it'd be better if we used a daytime one, because having the right light accurately portrays the color of his skin, eyes, hair, etc. Twocents 03:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I type so slowly. :P I see you beat me to it! Twocents 03:25, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Done! Hopefully I got the point across in a nice manner. Twocents 03:46, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Nah, it's no problem. ^_^ There are definitely issues where I'd have a hard time being nice about it, so I understand. Twocents 04:27, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Height/Weight in Infobox
I was adding references from the character book Souls to various pages and ran into something that I was hoping you could help clarify for me. The heights and/or weights stated in the infoboxes of some characters do not match what is stated in Souls. I assumed that this info came from the character biographies in the early volumes, but when I saw Ichigo's bio in volume 1, it did not match either what is stated in the infobox, or in Souls. (The profile from vol 1 gives his height as 174cm (just under 5'9), while Souls says 5'7 (170cm). And his profile states his height as 175cm, but gives no reference.)

So I have two questions. First, do you know if this came from another source beside Souls/volume 1 (I don't have access to Bootleg, so I can't check if that is the source). Second, when there is a conflict between the stated height/weight in Souls/Bootleg and in the volume biographies, which do we go with? --Yyp 16:53, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought it would be best to use the most recent version of their stats. So if Bootleg is the most recent, then I'd be happy to go with that. Yeah, probably should, because there is a big difference in some of the stats (like Ichigo being 5cm taller in one version than another). --Yyp 23:12, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I'll head over there now. --Yyp 23:41, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Should I stop editing? It seems to glitch a lot. -- Tha Reckoning 04:01, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Glitches
Minato88 asked me if we should make a forum to tell people about the various glitches (such as the replacing of images and the nsbp thing that shows up when you hit space and shift at the same time) so they can try to avoid them. I know there's a brief message about it on the My Home page, but I'm not sure how many people ever look at that page (I don't). What do you think? Twocents 06:36, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I'll see if I can relocate that thread and maybe move it to improvements and issues so it won't get buried again (since Watercooler is so much more active than the other forums). Twocents 06:44, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Haha, I think Yyp must have already done that. I'll direct Minato88 to it then. Twocents 06:45, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

yo my work
hey what do think of the summaries i ve been putting into the episodes? the reason i can do them so fast is that i had already written them down earlier in the day, (which took me an awfully long time) and i pasted them on the episodes.

GAME SAGE  J  o  n  a  t  h  a  n   S  m  i  t  h 

Voting Policy
Since it is mentioned on the Policy page, but doesn't currently exist, I have drawn up a draft Voting Policy and would like some feedback on it (Bleach Wiki:Voting). It is mostly based on things I have seen being posted on the Featured Article vote page, but also prompted by some flaunting of the rules on the Feat Pic page. I was wondering if you thought the failure to follow section is alright or a bit too much. It is based on what is said in the blocking policy. My other problem is that I'm not certain what to write for how the winner is decided in the (unlikely) event of a tie. I was thinking either the admins vote on it, or a run-off vote, but limited to 24hrs or so for a speedy decision. Anything else I missed off of it/improvements that could be made? --Yyp 23:38, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

The policy is now up at Bleach Wiki:Voting. --Yyp 20:35, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Bleach: Blade of Destiny
Sounds like the best plan for now, and it'll give that guy time to prove it's real or not. And the deletion tag looks fine. :) Twocents 05:12, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Featured Image
Well, I had been kind of thinking that they'd be single panels, but let me ask Yyp what her thoughts are, since we've been working together on it. Twocents 20:09, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Yyp and I both think it should be one panel only, except in cases where it's too difficult to crop out nearby panels, to be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. We both like your page (Unohana is funny sometimes), but think there's too many panels included. Twocents 22:25, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

New rule
I mentioned this in reply to Salubri about an issue, but I'd like your thoughts on it too. I would like to make it against the rules for a user to remove a post from an admin on their talk page when it involves them being warned about something. Otherwise if we have to warn that same user, we would not know that the person has previously received a warning. The User Page Policy seems like the best place to put it if we do make it a rule. Alternatively, we could make a page with a list of users that have been warned and when/what they were warned for. Essentially a watch-list that we could check when warning a user to see if it is a first offence. --Yyp 14:39, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a page that would take up a lot of space. -- Tha Reckoning  [[Image:TR.jpg|19px]] 17:24, November 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * One of the reasons why I would prefer to go with the first suggestion. I don't really want what amounts to a black-list. --Yyp 17:57, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, since we are agreed on stopping people from removing warnings from their talk pages, I'll add that to the User Page Policy. I've been working on an update to that page and will add it shortly. --Yyp 19:01, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

So we made the Bleach Wiki:Policy Violations page. We figured each individual admin would find all the people they've warned/blocked since September and add them to that page (since they likely still need watching). Those who have been on the page for four months without getting more warnings would be removed, if what they were warned for was relatively minor. Those who were warned for more serious offenses would be kept on the page for a year (Yyp's working on writing this all up). All people would be alphabetized on the page with their own header. And while we find the people we warned, if they removed the warning from their page, we're going to restore it and give them a warning to not remove the warnings again. Twocents 20:59, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

proposal
Also check out a proposal i made to Tinni a week or so ago which i forgot to bring up. Its on her talk page under volume of the week club. Salubri 17:36, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Twocents and Yyp are in agreement on it, we just waiting on whether your cool with it so i can put it together officially. Salubri 00:32, November 15, 2009 (UTC)