Bleach Wiki talk:Image Gallery/Archive10

Bambietta Basterbine
The manga's over so we best get these out of the way. Now, while the current profile image we use for Bambietta is by no means bad, one thing I've noticed about her character design is that she switches between looking like a young girl and a young woman fairly often. This is best exemplified in the current and proposal images, respectively, and the manga more often portrays her as looking like an adult rather than a teenager. Moreover, the proposal I found (which is honestly the best I could find) has her from a completely frontal angle, more detail in her face and is overall what I'd expect of a profile image (not trying to diss you at all, original uploader, just giving my spiel).--Xilinoc (talk) 01:12, November 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:12, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Hmm, now who could that uploader be? Anywho I support this, despite my use of it as a profile for a bit the current one is a less serious expression. FutureEeveeKing13 (talk) 01:28, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) A modest improvement.  13:11, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) Agreed, it is better than the current. Arrancar109  (Talk)  14:52, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5) Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 18:55, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 6) I think this can work.--

Candice Catnipp
As with Bambietta above, Candice's current profile isn't bad, but I think the proposal I found has some improvements. First off, though I normally wouldn't use expression as a quality indicator unless it's clearly a gag or something, there is precedent for that here, so I'll point out that Candice's default expression is generally a manic grin rather than a puzzled frown. Moreover, she's not angling her entire body in the proposal and her design's more "finalized" (no big ol' anime eyes).--Xilinoc (talk) 01:12, November 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:12, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Agreed for the same reasons as Bambietta. FutureEeveeKing13 (talk) 01:28, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Neither of them are great, but this is better. At least the full size is, the thumb looks poor quality, but that doesn't matter since it wont be that small on the page.  13:11, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) Agreeing with everyone else. Arrancar109  (Talk)  14:52, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5) Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 18:55, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 6) Im not all happy about the expression but it looks like it can work.--

Liltotto Lamperd
I have a feeling that this proposal and the next will be the least contested...anyway, back when Liltotto debuted, I chose her mugshot over the zoomed-out shot of her from the group entrance for the sake of detail (and the image not being stretched out/including other characters in the template), but we now have the technology chapters necessary to do better. The proposal isn't a completely frontal shot, but you can see her hair, her hat, and part of her outfit, which makes her more distinguishable than the now-obsolete current one does.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:12, November 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:12, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Definitely better without those pesky text balloons in the way. FutureEeveeKing13 (talk) 01:28, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Get rid of those text bubbles.  13:11, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) This is definitely better. It features more detail than the current one. Arrancar109  (Talk)  14:52, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5) Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 18:55, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 6) i can agree with this.--

BG9
Not to get superbly presumptuous, but I can't even THINK of any arguments against this one. The current profile we have for best robot is a zoomed-in shot of his helmet/mask/whatever and very little else; the proposal shows a whole lot more (such as the rest of its head) without sacrificing detail or angle. pls u guys.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:12, November 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:12, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) No objections here. FutureEeveeKing13 (talk) 01:28, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) More suitable.  13:11, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) Like Liltotto, this has more detail to it. Arrancar109  (Talk)  14:52, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5) Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 18:55, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 6) I like this new one much better.--

Dordoni Alessandro Del Socaccio
This one seems to be a result of older editing back in the day as a lot of the Arrancar had bad images. But essentially, Dordoni's current profile picture you can only see the side of his face and its not thus to our standards. I've uploaded a few other options here that you can see his full face, his eyes and such.


 * Option 2
 * 1) - Think this option abides by or Profile picture rules more. Can see his face from a front view.
 * 2) - Opt 2 is the most suitable of these and better meets the requirements than the current one.  22:59, January 15, 2018 (UTC)
 * 3) - While these are all good choices, Option 2 seems the best out of these. Arrancar109  (Talk)  23:24, January 15, 2018 (UTC)

Ichigo Kurosaki (Post-Timeskip)
You may be experiencing déjà vu right now because I submitted this exact proposal a year and a half ago. I'm only resubmitting it now because 1. only one other user voted in the previous discussion, which led to a net neutral vote rather than a negative or positive one, and 2. I think my points for the proposal (final uniform and overall look, color page from le manga) still stand.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:12, November 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 01:12, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) While I would tend to go with the anime pic, the proposal is more current. FutureEeveeKing13 (talk) 01:28, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) I do like his current pic, but yeah, it changed, and I think the proposal would be better for the article at this point. Arrancar109  (Talk)  14:52, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 18:55, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Hyōrinmaru (Zanpakutō spirit)
The layout for Zabimaru's profile template (showing both canon and non-canon forms) has been around for a while, but it only just occurred to me that the same situation applies to Hyōrinmaru, since he's been shown as an ice dragon in the manga rather than a pretty boy as in the filler arcs. However, it's not quite as simple as just using the shot of him from the adaptation of chapter -16 in episode 239 because 1. that shot has a lot of blurs, wind, and light reflection making him a bit hard to make out, and 2. I couldn't find a version of that episode above 480p quality (RIP kissanime). So, despite the precedent of using anime shots if/when available for character profiles, I'm putting up the manga version of that scene as well because it's pretty high-quality and you can actually see the guy pretty well. Both have Hitsugaya, but that's more for an evenly focused image than including him for scale, I promise. So the pros for each are as follows, I think:

Manga:
 * High quality
 * No blurring or glares

Anime:
 * Color
 * Following precedent

pls vote--Xilinoc (talk) 16:30, November 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * 1) Manga - I know we use anime whenever possible, and if the shot were cleaner, higher quality and less sheeny I wouldn't even be putting this up for discussion, but I think the manga version wins out in this case.--Xilinoc (talk) 16:30, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Jinta Hanakari
So this image I have an issue with, one it fails on the FUR front. And also its a very old image and is not the best in regards to our requirements for Profile Images. Here's some alternative. Originally voted for 4 but upon finding 5 I've changed my vote. Think its the best.


 * 1) Proposal 5
 * 2) Its between 5 and 8 for me but I'll vote for Proposal 5.  11:23, September 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * 3) Man, they could not figure out a standard look for Jinta for the life of them, huh? Proposal 5 it is.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:05, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Makoto Kibune
During my recent episode browsing I've come across a couple instances of superior character profile options that were somehow overlooked back in the day, and I think this is one of them. Neither of this options are 100% ideal - if they were, they'd have all of Kibune's hair in view - but my proposal has him actually facing the camera, shows his facial features in a bit more detail, AND has his trademark arrogant expression thing going on (according to Ukitake's last profile debate, default facial expression is a factor worth considering), so...yeah.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:26, January 28, 2019 (UTC)


 * Bumping this with another image I found.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:50, February 5, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As the guy who put forth this motion and all. Now that I've found it, Proposal 2 works better for me by not only showing this guy from the front, but also almost all of his head.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:50, February 5, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Option 2. Must have missed the original post of this under the spate of picture changes youve been doing but Op 2 is much better. Goof find.  11:09, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * 3) Sorry I was unsure due to Option 1's closeness but Option 2 is perfect!!

Michel
Back at it again with the extremely relevant character profile change proposals. Anyhow, Michel's current pic doesn't sit right with me - it's pretty zoomed out, he's not really facing the camera, and there's just kinda...too much of him. The alternatives I found in his one and only episode remedy some or all of these to varying degrees, and I know which one I prefer, but I figured I should put them all here just in case.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:22, February 20, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) Option 3 is my favorite of the four - not too zoomed out, front-facing, good quality, focused on his head and shoulders.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:22, February 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Option 3 is also my favorite of them, that or 4.
 * 3) Option 4 is the best of these, 3 is next best. 4 has a more suitable background than 3. But since so few people seem to express opinions on the last couple of these (maybe because its such an irrelevant character) I think option 3 has already won.  22:48, February 21, 2019 (UTC)

Ichigo Kurosaki
Something about Ichigo's current pre-timeskip picture has always bugged me. I think it's the strange...thinness to his body, how his face looks real narrow and pointy, as well as how he's facing slightly to the side and has this sort of glow about him due to the scene it's from. I just found an alternative from episode 313 where he's completely facing forward, is drawn better and has a proper chin, and is in regular lighting. The only downside I can see is the part of Renji's shoulder being visible on the left, but honestly it's such a minor thing that I personally don't care.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:20, February 22, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:20, February 22, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) Sorry I keep looking at the picture when it smaller and the eyes look odd to me like theres a larger white shine that one of them and looks like an error and a bit distorted.

Yūichi Shibata
Yūichi's current profile image has him to the side, not directly facing the camera, with dusk/sundown lighting, while my proposal is centered on him facing the camera during the daytime. Seems an easy choice to me.--Xilinoc (talk) 18:43, March 9, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 18:43, March 9, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) An improvement.  13:16, March 10, 2019 (UTC)
 * 3) Image is better although wish was a little more square that vertically long, no completely square just a little less longer vertically but the image is better.

Mizuiro Kojima (pre-timeskip)
Kinda minor changes here, but Mizuiro's current pre-timeskip image irks me with his non-neutral expression, tilted stance, and slight facing away from the camera (I know his eyes are looking forward, but still). Proposal has none of those, and for bonus points is in a more updated art style.--Xilinoc (talk) 18:22, March 10, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 18:22, March 10, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Slight improvement. They don't have to be facing directly in to the camera, its just a matter of being able to see all their features.  09:22, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Neutral Either image works fine to be honest.

Ryō Utagawa
Current: off to the side, closed in on his face, at a slight angle. Proposal: centered, shows his entire head, completely even keel. Can't say much more than that. Proposal 1 is a bit more zoomed out and less detailed than Proposal 2, so I figured they should both go up.--Xilinoc (talk) 07:19, March 19, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) Proposal 2 is my preferred one, looks more on-model for him and doesn't have the snake's head in view.--Xilinoc (talk) 07:19, March 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Either of the proposals are better. You either have the snake's head fully in or fully out, not half in like op1 so I go for op 2 of those.  09:22, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Szayelaporro Granz
Always felt Szayel's current image was a bit too zoomed-in and at an odd angle, but only now have I come across a suitable replacement - front-facing, showing more of his head, and a bit more on-model (by virtue of being pre-Amagai). Time for a change.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:56, March 29, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 21:56, March 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Only because there's less of his head cropped out of the pic.  09:22, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
 * 3) Oh yes much better.

Kenpachi Zaraki
Probably should've put this up 5 years ago when it would've been relevant, but I only just noticed how bad Kenpachi's current post-timeskip image is: I fully understand that it's the best we got from the anime, but he's not facing the camera, it's at night, and most glaringly it's off-model (check out that right eye a good inch lower than the left and the super elongated nose). Thankfully, Kubo gave a great alternative in the last arc with a pretty detailed shot of him from the front in the daylight, and with my hands on the colored manga it's got all the advantages of the anime version with none of the Pierrot drawbacks. Time to change it.--Xilinoc (talk) 08:14, March 31, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 08:14, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) If the anime had continued, the current one would never have been kept, but there were only night time pictures to use. This is easier to make out his features on.  09:22, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
 * 3) Yeah that arc was a difficult one to work with because of the night time shots.

Tessai Tsukabishi
I never have liked Tessai's current profile image - it's kinda zoomed out, he's not facing the camera, his head's cut off at the top, it's from a lower-quality filler episode - but I assumed it was the best we'd gotten of a fairly minor character, so imagine my surprise when I came across the perfect replacement in the Bount arc. Now he's facing forward, it's focused on his head and shoulders, you can see his ENTIRE head, and best of all it's great quality. Can't see anything against this one.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:46, April 3, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 02:46, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Has all of his head in it.  09:22, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
 * 3) Yes yes yes I hated that image and hated trying to find it too.

Orihime Inoue
Speaking strictly in terms of our profile image requirements, there's nothing *wrong* with Orihime's current pre-timeskip image - she's facing forward, it's focused on her head and shoulders, she's not battle-worn and it's of good quality. This is more a quality update than anything - my proposal comes 52 episodes later, after the anime went true HD and Pierrot upped the quality of character designs and colors, so now Orihime just looks better and brighter on all fronts (face, hair, clothing). Nothing radical, but makes sense to have the best version available.--Xilinoc (talk) 06:21, April 6, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 06:21, April 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) No change needed and not an improvment.  09:22, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
 * 3) Honestly the expression just isn't there for me.

Heita Momoyama
Oh hey there's actually a frontal shot of this guy in proper lighting let's use that kthx--Xilinoc (talk) 07:24, April 6, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 07:24, April 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) No shadows across his face is better.  09:22, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
 * 3) Yeah no pesky sun rays ruining the shot.

Mayuri Kurotsuchi
I wasn't planning on replacing this at first because it's pretty decent, but I came across an alternative in the latter half of the Hueco Mundo arc that highlights the problems Mayuri's current pre-timeskip photo has: it's zoomed out, he's sorta turned to the side and not looking directly at the camera, and he's also a biiiiit to the left of the center. On the other hand, my proposal is properly focused an centered on his face while still showing off his dank Hueco Mundo hairstyle and he's 100% facing forward. Can't see any problems with it.--Xilinoc (talk) 04:59, April 10, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 04:59, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Still missing the top, but it is better  09:22, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
 * 3) Yeah better.

Byakuya Kuchiki
Okay, so the last time I tried this, it didn't go over so well due to the proposal not having the best lighting, and in hindsight I agree with the decision to not change it - but I think I've finally found a winner. Not only do we have Byakuya completely from the front in natural lighting here, we can also see his entire head. The only downside I can think of is that part of his neck is in shadow due tothe light source, but personally that doesn't matter much to me.--Xilinoc (talk) 11:56, April 20, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 11:56, April 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Again do prefer to have a little bit more out on the horizontal and its a little to the side but its much better than the close up drama moment.
 * 3) Improvement.  10:49, May 22, 2019 (UTC)

Shūkurō Tsukishima
Tsukishima's profile image has always stood out to me as a placeholder that we kinda just forgot to replace - it's at a considerable angle, is set during dusk, and most of all is drawn kinda...flat (note the complete lack of depth around his mouth/neck area and his weird face proportions). He only appeared once during the daytime that I can think of, but I found something good during that part - here, while there's still an angle, it's not as bad, his face looks more on-model, and the man finally has a CHIN. Also, you can see a bit more of his head. Seems an easy choice to me.--Xilinoc (talk) 15:23, April 25, 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) As proposer, I support this change.--Xilinoc (talk) 15:23, April 25, 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Both of them are poor, but the new one is better in terms of the background being quieter.  10:49, May 22, 2019 (UTC)