Forum:How can Spanish be Japanese

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Translation
Sorry if it is a dumb question, bot how can names of Arrancar Zanpakutō translate both from Spanish and Japanese?Erik1310 20:38, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's to do with the way it's said; every syllable corresponds to a certain kanji, and that is how it's translated. Or someting like that. TomServo101 22:04, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Everything can in one way or another translate into another language. Sometimes they are similar and sometimes very different in meaning. Languages related to each other will more then likely have the same meanings regardless of being different. In this case two languages worlds apart are similar based on translation either spanish to japansese or vice versa and then placed in english. I forget who did the translations for it to explain it better then that. Salubri (Talk)  22:31, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

That's not it. This is actually a form of ateji. It's rather common in both real-life Japanese and fictional Japanese works, in fact. MarqFJA 02:10, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Lost in Translation
I really don't get how the Spanish words can be translated to a multi-worded Japanese translation, it totally baffles me. I mean, how does Arrogante get to Great Skull Emperor? I've tried looking for the Spanish words in Japanese dictionaries and find no translations, and even when I do manage to find a way to translate Spanish-Japanese-English, the result is different from the ones on this wiki. Could someone give me some insight as to how these translations work? Evilgidgit 00:32, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

That's because of the Kanji Tite Kubo uses to write the names. When he names a Resurreccion, he uses Kanji that give it a Japanese meaning and Katakana that give the pronunciation and Spanish meaning. There is no equivalence between the Spanish words and the Japanese meanings. For example, Grimmjow's Resurreccion, Pantera, uses the Kanji 豹 -Panther 王- King while at the same time, Tite Kubo decided to give it the Katakana パンテラ which reads Pa-n-te-ra, and that's Spanish for Panther. I hope this helps you understand a little better. Lia Schiffer 03:18, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

yes... that's correct, I am spanish and reading the resurreción words and later the kanji meanings, i saw that they havent the same... meaning. i was surprised, but thats fun^^!! Hexanort 12:39, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well, thank you for the explanation. I can sleep peacefully now. Maggosh 15:17, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Spanish
The editor needs to work on his spanish:

first (primera)

second (segunda)

third (tercera) ---> Dont use "espada tres", when all other espada are designated first/second etc (for consistency)

fourth (cuarta)

fifth (quinta)

sixth (sexta)

seventh (septima)

eighth (octava)

ninth (novena)

tenth (decima)

Normally these words end with -o, but since the word "espada" is feminine, they all end with -a

H idan 01:03, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

How many freaking times must we go over this. It says Espada Tres because that's how Harribel introduced herself. If you want consistency go complain to Kubo. We merely state things how he states them. Tinni  (Talk)  01:15, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

I know I don't need to add to Tinni's words, but this "the editor needs to work on his Spanish" really offends all of us NATIVE Spanish speakers that really, believe me, KNOW how to say third in Spanish, we're just sticking to how Tite Kubo ranked his own Espadas, just as Ulquiorra is Cuatro instead of Cuarta and Yammy introduces himself as Diez instead of Decima. Tite Kubo is known for not being really true to Spanish grammars (world known Cero Oscuras/Cero Oscuro debate), the man likes it like that and we stick to it, we have gone over this a zillion times. Lia Schiffer 03:08, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

I am utterly sick of this nonsense. Tinni and Lia Schiffer are correct. Yes I understand you may know some spanish or be fluent in it. It does not matter. The story is written in Japanese kanji and has to make total sense for its Japanese audience first and foremost, hence the bad Spanish/German/whatever. It is explained above. People must note that we will only use what Kubo Tite wrote, not what anyone thinks would make more sense. He wrote it that way, so it is what we will use. -- Yyp (Talk) 10:33, March 11, 2010 (UTC)