Forum:The only useful division?

For me I think practically every squad is utterly useless since they always get their posteriors kicked easily (sugar coating for any young readers) except for the fourth division who even though never fight are the only ones with abilities that are useful enough, where as the 11th (except for the obvious ones) were depicted as tools who have barely any skills aside from weak swordsmanship, the rest may be less tough but they're not that much different. by the way I am only referring to the lower seated and non seated soldiers.--SalmanH 15:24, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Well for any serious enemy only high seated officers and captains are capable of dealing with them, so yes the lower ranked squad members are useless in that sense, but there's more to being a soul reaper than the big fights, hollows pop up in the real world and in rukongai quite often, and the captains and high ranked officers are too busy to deal with every single hollow occurence, and that's where the unranked squad members come in. Patrolling and so forth. Also remember that almost every single shinigami captain, vice captain or 3rd-5th seat, who are the only 'useful' people in the squads according to you, were originally unranked shinigami who had to rise through the ranks by advancing their skills. Who knows how many future officers are still unranked in some random squad? BollyW 20:52, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but still, the low ranking generic Soul Reapers are worthless. Every now & then if they aren't fighting they can look pretty strong. Like in one of the most recent eps aired in U.S. the unnamed Soul Reaper uses Hado 4 & his skill with it looked pretty good. But overall they are pathetic. I mean I could take on at least one, with just my barehands. Squad 11 Generic Soul Reapers are supposed to be the best squad in fighting & they get pummeled regularly, so what does that say for the others. Minato88 21:04, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Aha sorry to sound a little sceptical, but taking on a soul reaper with your bare hands? Don't forget that to be a soul reaper requires some spiritual energy, and you, like the vast majority of spirits, would probably be a rukon resident with none. So not only would they have a sword and basic knowledge of kido and shunpo, they have higher reaitsu than you and so are physically stronger. But that aside, they still have their uses in the day to day running of soul society. It is true that the military strength of the Gotei 13 rests in their captains (and to a lesser extent the vice-captains) but the rest still have their uses against lower level hollows and so on. As for 11th division, we've only seen them fight against Ichigo, Ganju and Chad, all of whom are far above your normal soul reaper. Ichigo defeated Ikkaku, Renji and Byakuya and drew with Kenpachi, does that make them worthless? Hardly. BollyW 21:59, November 2, 2009 (UTC)