Talk:Äs Nödt

She?
Renji says she is a he. SternritterA (talk) 11:44, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

In japanese is not sure, because some pronouns are unisex. Also, she/he has painted nails.

If anyone can locate RAWs when Renji is fighting him, we can go ahead and run it by the Translation Corner to determine which pronoun was used in the original Japanese release. But until then, we'll go ahead and continue to refer to him as a male. Arrancar109 (Talk)  17:01, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

It makes more sense not to gender specify at present, surely? The raw for those pages doesn't seem to be available (I've looked) but Renji's dialogue looks like the stock phrase "nan'da, aitsu?" which is used all the time in Bleach and which is not gender specific. Aitsu is usually translate as 'that guy' but can refer to female characters and often does. Japanese rarely uses gender pronouns so I think it unlikely Renji's made any statement about the enemy's gender. Perhaps the safest line is to say gender unconfirmed but one scanlation suggests male..? Vraieesprit (talk) 13:08, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Just to add for general reference that this character's gender remains officially unconfirmed. According to the raw for 495, which is now available online, Renji refers to As Nodt as koitsu, which, like aitsu, is non-gender specific. Vraieesprit (talk) 22:54, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Cool, thanks Vraieesprit, although yet again the scanlator has referred to As as a male, multiple times; could you check the RAWs? SternritterA (talk) 11:20, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Will do when they're up (they always take a day or two longer to appear). I can see this becoming a running joke...I'm guessing scanlators made a decision and decided to be consistent but if we assume that we'll miss when/if Kubo actually bothers to reveal genderVraieesprit (talk) 18:55, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

I went ahead and put in a request regarding this at the Translation Corner. There's not much else that can be done at the time being. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  19:10, June 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Please see what's been said above - information came from the raws up to 495. 496 is not yet available but I will check it when it is...until then nobody can do anything.Vraieesprit (talk) 19:55, June 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am well aware, but ah, I happened to completely miss the fact that you're part of the Translation Corner. My apologies. I suspect the page will be locked until something does come up. Mohrpheus   (Talk)  20:09, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Update 18/6/12: The raw for 496 has no gender pronoun for As Nodt. We still have no confirmation of gender.Vraieesprit (talk) 23:56, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Referring to Äs as "it" seems really improper to me. Wouldn't "he/she" be more appropriate? They refer to Crona (whose gender is also unknown) from Soul Eater like that in the Soul Eater wiki (http://souleater.wikia.com/wiki/Crona). TheGrudge (talk) 18:11, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree with above poster. Not sure why 'they' was changed to 'it' since 'they' has a colloquial usage in English as a non-specific singular often used for people of unknown gender. I think he or she would be the most "politically correct" terminology, though. 'It' sounds kind of rude, and Kubo seems in no hurry to reveal the character's gender. Vraieesprit (talk) 19:48, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Then I'll make the edit. TheGrudge (talk) 20:17, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

"It" and "they" are both acceptable gender-neutral pronouns; neither is necessarily more improper than the other. The latter however, can easily be confused with the more common plural form, especially since multiple sentences in the article describe multiple characters, making the subject(s) of the pronoun less clear. I just think it makes more sense to use the pronoun that is more recognizable as being singular. Mohrpheus  (Talk)  21:26, July 4, 2012 (UTC)