Forum:Official Vizard Discussions

Here, you can hold general discussions about the Vizard. Please do not make new topics about them, as they will simply be deleted and merged with the appropriate forums. Twocents 23:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Existing Topics
All of these topics are open and available for discussion. Twocents 23:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Why is there a three-minute limit on the masks?
That discussion got a little long, but can be continued here if anyone would like to. Twocents 23:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Shikai
Lisa and Hiyori released their shikai. Any thoughts or opinons on what they can/might do? Orochidayu 17:34, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I don't have any opinions on that specifically, but they seem to be mostly for offensive use, if their release commands are any indicator.

And maybe it's just me, but does anyone else find it odd that, with the exception of Kensei, all of all of the revealed Vizards' Shikai are oversized/overextended? It's a little... boring. Twocents 17:43, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I didn't really notice at first, but let's review:


 * Ichigo: a large black & white cleaver
 * Love: an enormous club
 * Rose: a extended whip with thorns
 * Lisa: an oversized spear
 * Hiyori: a cleaver with saw-blades
 * Kensei: a.....small pocket knife?

Yep! All the Vizard who have shown their shikai, except Kensei, have large versions of actual weapons. But we'll have to wait to see if Shinji, Mashiro, and Hachi follow the same pattern. I ''Really wanted to see Kyoraku's Bankai, though! ._. Orochidayu 18:22, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

By all means, that pictures the Vizards pretty well, I mean grotesque and raw appearances and powers. Except, I, myself, don't like the shape of Ichigo's looks more like a huge kitchen knife [] than a sword.Baronofash 23:45, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Ha ha, I noticed that too. Ichigo's shikai doesn't seem to do much, except for his Getsuga Tenshou. I think Tite Kubo may have had a writers block for the vizards' shikais and things, because of deadlines. I hope he'll come up with something good for them later though. KnowledgeandImagination 00:03, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hiyori's shikai looks more like an larger version of a sword-breaker, a Medieval European weapon that served as a counter to a sword, basically it was used to catch a sword in the notches then break the blade or disarm the wielder. Kensei's shikai may be a reflection of his military style dress and personality so a combat knife would seem appropriate for him.Spacedone 08:50, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Guess now we know. No need to go all out designing something for a character that you're finished with (Inoue not withstanding). For the record, I thought it suited her, and not everyone has to have fancy abilities. The basic ones just make the rest seem all that much better. --Yyp 22:53, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

I actually liked Rose's zanpakuto a lot. It looks like it has some interesting abilities and I can't wait to see more of it. But Kyoraku wins hands down for the most imaginative zanpakuto out there. I also really want to see Kensei fight but I fear we'll be cheated out of it. I hope not but there is only so much Kubo can show in 19 pages. Tinni 08:06, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I really like Lisa now that we've seen her Shikai. She's very knight like. Actually, I like her mask the best. Nick4444 18:29, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Preferred Mode of Combat
I don't know how others feel but I would like to see a stop to people adding trivia that is essentially fan speculation as the preferred mode of combat for vizards, especially Kensei. Clearly Kensei is one of those lucky shinigami whose zanpakuto is perfect for the style of combat he prefers i.e. hand-to-hand. Which is probably why he releases it so much. It doesn't mean anything beyond that. Also I would like to see proof regards how the other vizards prefer their hollow skills over their shinigami ones. In fact, what the hell are "hollow skills" anyway? Last I looked the only purely hollow combat skill the vizards have access to is cero. Generally their masks just augment their existing powers. So far Shinji used cero once, Hiyori used cero twice and Mashiro used cero once. Everybody else seems to put on the mask to make their four shinigami powers (Kidō, Hakuda, Hohō and Zanjutsu) stronger. Case in point, Mashiro clearly prefer hand-to-hand combat over swordsmanship, so she wears her mask to pummel her opponent because it makes her generally stronger then what she would be. We don't know what her zanpakuto's power is, it might be something that isn't adaptable to hand-to-hand combat and which is why she doesn't use it. She wouldn't be the first shinigami to have a complex about her zanpakuto's ability. So please, enough with the "Kensei prefers his shinigami powers over his hollow powers" and all trivia along that same vain. It's just speculation and should be confined to fanfictions and forums. Tinni 12:25, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Hear hear. Preferred mode of combat is hardly worthy of a trivia mention. Thankyou for pointing out how ridiculous it is. BollyW 13:13, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Vizard's Eyes
Ive noticed in recent chapters that some of the vizards eyes are not black but white still i was wondering if you guys and or girls think that means anythingKensei24 21:38, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

i don't know, at first i thought it had some thing to do with there glasses acting like a filter. but now ichigo is doing it.Soul reaper magnum 06:56, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I just watched Ep 121 & 122 again & Hiyori forms her mask & her eyes stay whit, but then turn black. Later she takes her mask off, but they stay black. Also, when Shinji first uses his mask as a demonstration to Ichigo his eyes stay white, but when he uses it against Grimmjow they turn black. I just have no idea whats going on anymore with the Vizards. Minato88 07:13, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Masks and Shikais
The conversation got a little long there, but if anyone would like to continue it here, they may do so. Twocents 23:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Something has puzzled me ever since i saw ichigo in his new hollow form, will he get the extra two lines in the middle and the horns? Will it be like the last mask where it changes over time? And his new hollow form seemed more human than animalistic, is he in a sense immitating the more powerful hollows with the humanoid hollow transformation? Is he evolving? And does that explain why his mask changed? why he was stronger? What makes ichigo so different from the other vizards? (i really hope he doesn't get kill/defeat aizen even though its looking that way)Kissmybankai 15:57, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

i just thought of this while reading this thread... a vastro lorde is the most evolved (if not perfect) arrancar, right? (correct me if i'm wrong.) what do you call a fully hollowfied (or a perfectly hollowfied/evolved) shinigami? it might be something equal to a vasto lorde. maybe ichigo will be something like this... just a thought.--WinterFox 03:30, November 20, 2009 (UTC)