Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner

The Translation Corner is a group of Bleach Wiki users who the task to translate the various names, abilities, techniques and etc. found in the Bleach Universe. Being that Bleach is a Japanese manga that use Japanese, Chinese, Indian, German, Spanish and English language in various instances and cases, the use of translators are a focal point to the continuation of accuracy on the wiki. All users should read our Translation Guidelines before you start translating.

Roles of the Translation Corner
The following are the duties of the corner:


 * 1. To assure the correctness of all translations that are presented on the site.


 * 2. To determine the outcome of Contentious Translations: If a translation is questioned at all, that should be brought up in this section. In this way a translator, committee member or admin can explain why the translation is used or conversation can take place for translations that are harder to classify.


 * 3. To determine the correct translation of Zanpakutō (names, release calls, etc.): This section is for requests for translation of zanpakuto and zanpakuto related translations.


 * 4. To determine the correct translation of Character and element (e.g. devices) names: This section is for requests for translation of characters/techniques/equipment and general key words.


 * 5. To determine the correct translation of General/Other translation issues (e.g. conjugation/miscellanea): This section is for requests about translations that don't fit any particular criteria such as conjugation or such things such as accents used in the names.

Associate Members

 * Adam Restling (Primary Japanese Translator)
 * MarqFJA (Secondary Japanese Translator)
 * (Japanese)
 * Lia Schiffer (Primary Spanish Translator)
 * Vraieesprit (Japanese to English Translation)

References & Sources

 * Kanji-to-English:
 * Tangorin
 * Mahou Kanji Dictionary
 * Kanji Networks
 * OldNihongo.J-Talk.Com
 * Basic Japanese verbal data: The imperative inflection of Japanese verbs

Associate Box
Ok folks I have finally gotten around to makeing the Associate Box. You can put it on your user page using the command. Below is what the box looks like. Tinni  (Talk)  14:37, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Translation Guidelines

 * Anyone doing any form of translation. Looking up on Google Translate or similar translation tools, is not translating. You are not doing the site any favors by doing amateur translation. Please refrain from using such tools.


 * This is not a conversation page. It is a simple question and answer page for translation. All conversations should be held on a particular user talk page or the talk page of this page.


 * Users should simply place their request and wait for it to be answered. To keep it simple, if the user posting the request has no real understanding of translation, the point is not for you to learn how to translate here. Usage of the page should extend no more then to asking for a translation to be done. Please refrain from badgering the translators for understanding on why a translation is translated a certain way. If you knew anything about translation you wouldn't be asking someone else to do it, therefore it makes no sense to argue with them.


 * If you are not a member of the translation corner, please do not answer translation questions. Leave it to our translators so as to avoid confusion.


 * Admin have the final say on the translation being placed into a article.

Google translate
MASK and Harukaze have been translated using an automatic translator. "This time the sky is too blue and cried Omoikiri except through a hole in the donut" "Too much time today Yuku What a little laughter chest injury Board" Last time I fixed a translation I just got reverted, so instead I'm questioning them so someone else can change them. Bluesun1 (talk) 17:12, August 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I find that the site Anime Lyrics is generally pretty good, at least at obtaining the rōmaji (and, often, the Kanji and kana, too, for reference). Here's a link to their BLEACH songs master page; taking from this data, it's prob. just a small matter remaining of light editing and a bit of extra review before we had a pretty good workable version of any song. :)


 * I also include the pages for "MASK" and "HARUKAZE" specifically for quicker reference to this particular post. Adam Restling (talk) 01:47, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

Various song romaji
I had assumed they were obvious enough errors that they didn't need to go here, but obviously not. ('was' in romaji? What?)
 * 1) ロマンティック is currently romanised as romanteikku in *~Asterisk~. I believe it should be 'romantikku' due to the ティ compound. This is the same romanisation as used for ティ on other pages, such as Tier Harribel.
 * 2) The Echoes page has various words misromanised. Lyrics sites all around the net agree on a single set of lyrics however, which contain unusual kanji and constant formatting (i.e., a two-dot ellipsis after tooku, etc) they're likely official. The mistakes:
 * boku was koko de utau darou: 'was' should be 'wa'.
 * Deai ga tsumuideku melody: 'tsumuideku' should be 'tsumuideiku'.
 * Ima wa mada konna ni chiisana kona koe ga: 'kona' should be 'kono'.
 * Itsuka wa tsuyoku hibiiteku kara: 'hibiiteku' should be 'hibiiteiku'.
 * Yasashiku yuriokoso melody: 'yuriokoso' should be 'yuriokosu'.
 * Bluesun1 (talk) 14:03, August 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * You seem to be correct re: romantikku, Sun: the combination of テ te and ィ (that is, small i) is used to express the phonetic katakana ti, even as similar tricks, such as ト to + ゥ small u is used to = tu (as in Nel Tu ).


 * Just at a cursory glance, your rōmaji corrections, too, are prob. correct; cf. my links to the web site Anime Lyrics in the topic above for another possible source to check these against. :) Adam Restling (talk) 01:59, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

Vandenreich Terms
Here's the kanji and katakana for some of the unusual terminology used by Kirge in chapter 498. Blackstar1 (talk) 16:37, June 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * - From what I've read elsewhere, it seems to be a made-up word invented to describe the process that the Vandenreich use to steal Bankai.
 * - From what I've read elsewhere, it seems to be a made-up word invented to describe the process that the Vandenreich use to steal Bankai.


 * Good job. It looks like the Kanji for Daten mean about the same thing, "data, information, (military) intelligence" (jouhou in Japanese). The Kanji for medalize mean "star-emblemize": 星 "star(s)" (clearly referring to the Quincy pentangle cross, and so also prob. the Sternritter) + 章, usu. "chapter", but also meaning "emblem, badge, mark, sigil" + the factitive suffix 化, basically equivalent to "-ize" or "-fy"--it also appears in "Hollowfaction" (虚(ホロウ)化 Horouka). Adam Restling (talk) 10:00, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Chapter 500 Terms
Here's the Japanese that I could actually find for the terms used in this chapter. Blackstar1 (talk) 14:56, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Transmittal Blades -
 * Kirge Opie of "the Jail" -, while "the jail" portion is given kanji, I omitted them as I couldn't quite make out the second kanji from this raw.

Jidanbō's Attacks
Jidanbō Ikkanzaka's techniques have remained improperly translated for a long time now, so here's the kanji and romaji for them. Blackstar1 (talk) 13:32, July 14, 2012 (UTC)




 * Good work, Star. It looks like Juppon Jidanda Matsuri means "ten (water) buffalo-red strikes festival"; and Banzai Jidanda Matsuri means "ten thousand buffalo-red strikes festival"... and both those names are awesome XD.


 * The jidan element is the same as in the name Jidanbou itself, which means "(water) buffalo-red boy" (the element bou, "boy", also appears in Yoruichi's nickname for Byakuya, Byakuyabou, and comes < "young priest, bonze" < "priest's abode" (where these were trained), it seems).


 * The popular phrase/cry banzai lit. means "ten thousand years", but could also mean "endless period, eternity" (since ten thousand years was quite a while)--compare, for example, the origin of English myriad. The cheer is explained as being a kind of elided form of "may you (or we) live for ten thousand years/forever!" Adam Restling (talk) 08:16, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Central 46

 * The Japanese term used in the manga for Central 46 is 中央四十六室, with the 室, as can be seen on Chapter 168 page 1 (Hitsugaya: "Chūō Shijūroku-shitsu. [Explains about them] Sore ga Chūō Shijūroku-shitsu da. Sono Shijūroku-shitsu ga ima, ore no me no mae de zenmetsushiteiru--...")


 * Despite this including the kanji 室, Hitsugaya's speech shows this phrase refers to the organisation itself, and not of the room. Similar to how this page uses 'Translation Corner' to refer to you five.
 * The Japanese term for the place is 中央地下議事堂, my TL 'Central Underground Parliament Building', as shown on Chapter 168 page 4, and reaffirmed in dialogue on page 9 by Kira. (Kira: Boku wa tada... Hitsugaya-taichō ga korareru sukoshi mae ni, uchigawa kara kagi o akete *asoko* ni iretemoratta dake desu.) 'asoko' is given as furigana to 地下議事堂.
 * The Japanese term for the place is 中央地下議事堂, my TL 'Central Underground Parliament Building', as shown on Chapter 168 page 4, and reaffirmed in dialogue on page 9 by Kira. (Kira: Boku wa tada... Hitsugaya-taichō ga korareru sukoshi mae ni, uchigawa kara kagi o akete *asoko* ni iretemoratta dake desu.) 'asoko' is given as furigana to 地下議事堂.


 * Varied translations are probably the cause of the names used on this wikia 'Underground Assembly Hall' and 'the Diet Building'. (議事堂 is used to refer to the place which is the national parliament building, for example in Japan it is the Diet Building, in the UK, the Houses of Parliament, and in America, Capital Hill.) 'Central 46 Chambers', 'Central 46 Chambers Compound' and 'Central Forty-Six Chambers' all come from a misinterpretation of the 室 lines. All should be unified/corrected to the single term translated from 中央地下議事堂 or shortenings of it.
 * So anyway, if I go changing this someone with less knowledge than me will probably just revert me without even thinking, so would one of you five confirm these points so they can be corrected. Japanese text included in HTML comments incase it helps.
 * Bluesun1 (talk) 16:42, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Bluesun1 (talk) 16:42, August 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Interesting stuff, Sun. I've no raws to consult at present, but you seem to have some good evidence that there's a distinction to be made between "Central 46 Chambers" (the organization/entity) and their abode, the "Central Underground Proceedings Hall" (apparently Chuuou Chika Gijidou) (the place). Giji (議事) combines the word for "consult, deliberate" with "affair(s), thing(s)", and so is used to describe things such as the Diet, or a congress/assembly.


 * At the very least, this warrants closer scrutiny (if further evidence seems necessary). Adam Restling (talk) 08:34, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Higonyūdō
Higonyūdō is misspelled everywhere his name appears on this wikia. While the image you likely sourced the name from appears to show 'ko' and 'tō', checking in an actual book shows that two dakuten marks were somehow left out, possibly in scanning or cleaning the page, as the furigana in the actual book show 'go' and 'dō'. This is further backed up by the readings of the two kanji -- 鉅 has reading 'go' and not 'ko', and while 道 can be read as 'tō', it is only commonly done so in the words 'Shintō' and 'Tentō', versus read as 'dō' in hundreds of other cases. Bluesun1 (talk) 17:34, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you claim something is spelled wrong, please provide proof as to where it is spelled correctly.--
 * Whoops, sorry, that's chapter 177 page 9. Bluesun1 (talk) 18:02, August 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sun is right, according to the Japanese Wiki: seems it's Higonyuudou (or Higonyūdō, in you guys' adopted spelling scheme).


 * Fun fact: it seems that nyuudou (which is more lit. "entrance-way") is used of a) entering the (Buddhist) priesthood, b) one who has so-entered, i.e. a priest or monk, c) a shaven-headed (like a monk) man, or d) a bald-headed monster :) ! In fact, the compound word nyuudougumo (with kumo "cloud(s)" > -gumo via rendaku) is used to refer to thunderheads or gigantic (summer) columns of cloud. Adam Restling (talk) 08:50, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Shishinrō
In translating the Bleach GC terms, I came across Shishinrō. Turns out it's 四深牢, possibly 'Four-deep jail'. Yet there's only one mention of Shishinrō on this wikia, with no kanji or anything. Turns out, you refer to it as Penitence Cell, Repentance Cell (Viz terms), and Shrine of Penitence. I'm guessing that's not ideal, (certainly, switching between four names isn't) so thought I'd mention it here. The Shishinrō kanji can be seen on chapter 94 page 5. Bluesun1 (talk) 14:03, August 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Those Kanji do indeed mean "four deep prison(s)". As I think I posted earlier, there are oodles of older BLEACH terms that yet go wanting for Kanji, or accurate translations, based on various factors, including the fact that their age produces the illusion that they're settled business, and it's rarer someone looks back; early, error-riddled translations that haven't been contested, etc.


 * Keep up the good work at combing through for missed errors etc. :) Adam Restling (talk) 08:58, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Shin'ō
One method of romanisation is to romanise n + vowel compounds with an apostrophe, to prevent them from being mistaken for na-gyō sounds. Whether applied or not, it should be done so consistently. Yet at the moment you have Jin'emon Kotsubaki (uses apostrophe), Shin'etsu Kisaragi (uses apostrophe) and Shinō Academy (no apostrophe). Whichever is this wikia's rule should be followed, and at least one article renamed with/without an apostrophe. Bluesun1 (talk) 14:54, August 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Good point. Personally, I dislike the look of the apostrophe, even as I do certain stylized mishmashes like jyo for jo(u) or, indeed, using ū for uu etc. in native Japanese words (it's easier to write uu then to paste a macron ū in most cases). I support them for things like katakana spellings, since there the macron is the equivalent of the "long sign" kana /ー/ in non-native, expressive, or other informal usages.


 * Still, one style should be chosen, and then stuck with, for consistency's sake. Adam Restling (talk) 09:07, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Kangetsu ni Saku
Seeing choices enacted on Chapter 504, Chapter -12.5 also should be changed into Japanese. Currently you have it as '-12.5. Blooming Under a Cold Moon'. But as you can see on your own image, the title is in Japanese. Bluesun1 (talk) 00:54, August 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think we should keep the translation--or, rather, tweak it slightly to "Bloom to a Cold Moon" to be more correct ("under a cold moon" should be kangetsu no shita ni or something similar)--but should add the Kanji, as this is one of those rare Japanese (rather than English) chapter titles.


 * Ideally, we could someday add kana and Kanji alike to all the titles, wherever they may be lacking. Adam Restling (talk) 09:16, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Juha Bach should be Juhabach?
I know that you can't really do much about the spelling of "Juha Bach" but I have found the kanji for his name "ユーハバッハ (Yūhabahha) and I don't see that fancy little dot that splits up the word. So is it all one word and should be Juhabach?--Kisukeiscool100396 (talk) 19:15, September 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I and others have been discussing this at some length, chiefly here, and Tipres arrived at the same conclusion, providing compelling evidence. Thus, I think that *Juhabach, then, is the most educated guess--and so best place-holder--so far for the romanization of his name.


 * I sure wish Kubo would give us the official romanizations with more expediency than he has to now :(, but until he does, we'll prob. do well to adopt the above. Adam Restling (talk) 02:11, September 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ignoring everything about Bach and German itself, there is another potential source to the name, which may have less holes — and more possible plot-connections — than trying to backrender Johann or similar.
 * His name is based on the Hebrew reading of the letters 'Y.H.W.H.', the Tetragrammaton, which is in Hebrew the absolute name of God (sound familiar?), with its vowels removed. Attempts of vowel reconstruction have lead to Jehovah, Yahweh, etc., but that doesn't concern us. What concerns us is the pronunciation of these four letters as they are. Which is, Yodh-he-waw-he. The katakana spelling 'Yuhhabahha' is an approximation of this.
 * While the two may not look similar when being read in latin script, consider that both are transliterations of languages using another script. Already similarities can be spotted between placement of the consonants y and h. Yiddish, a particular German variant of Hebrew used roughly 1000 years ago — before German as it is now — also seems like it would offer possibly a closer similarity to the Japanese pronunciation.
 * However, despite all this, I do not know enough about Hebrew to posit a best (Yiddish?) spelling, and can only leave my findings here, in the hope of a Hebrew speaker or scholar potentially helping.
 * Bluesun1 (talk) 05:10, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * However, despite all this, I do not know enough about Hebrew to posit a best (Yiddish?) spelling, and can only leave my findings here, in the hope of a Hebrew speaker or scholar potentially helping.
 * Bluesun1 (talk) 05:10, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Bluesun1 (talk) 05:10, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Chapter 504 Name
Low priority but could we get a translation of the title of chapter 504 please so it can be noted on the page and Chapters page as is done with previous cases of the titles being in kanji. The kanji are 雷鳴の彼方へ and link to the raw. As I say its not a priority, but would be good to have at some stage whenever one of the translators has the time. Thanks 20:41, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * "Raimei no Kanata e" -- "Beyond the Thunder" is a perfect translation. "To the Thunder's Beyond" is more literal, but unnecessarily wordy and awkward. I'd go with the first. L44021 (talk) 01:12, August 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * L is correct, esp. since the strictly lit. is only really necessary in the Japanese itself, because of its necessary structure (compared to English).


 * The only possible amendment I might suggest is to make it " To Beyond the Thunder", taking into account the usage of the particle he (pronounced and often written as simply e) "to(ward)"--simpler "beyond (the) thunder" would probably just be raimei no kanata, lacking the he; but that would be it. Adam Restling (talk) 09:25, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Bleach novel: Spirits Are Always With You
Here are full Japanese raw scans for the books:--B14 (talk) 15:44, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/iICc9gh995ysQuXGcpUmG0yUajyHEolGlTMsxastkz6hAEXy481xNA
 * http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/fnEl%2B9Qyj7umBRnesQRA2qinXqpK%2BCnU

Äs Nödt's Gender
The character's gender is currently indeterminate, though scanlators appear to favor that he is male. The article is locked because of this. Is there anything in the raws that suggest a particular gender? Mohrpheus  (Talk)  19:08, June 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Äs Nödt's gender is undisclosed in the raws up to 495. Kubo has not confirmed a gender for this character. Please see As Nodt's page talk for the most recent information. Vraieesprit (talk) 19:59, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Colorful Bleach OVA DVD
Since the cover is on here, what does it translate to?

Tman7776 (talk) 02:05, June 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks like the title of this particular Color BLEACH is "Operation Thirteen Court Guard Floats" (護廷十三屋台大作戦 Gotei Juusanyatai Daisakusen), the first part of course punning on "Thirteen Court Guard Troops" (護廷十三隊 Gotei Juusantai). A yatai (屋台) is a small stand or float used for festivals; sakusen (作戦), frequently prefixed (as here) with dai- (大) "great/big", is usually used for "(military) operation, strategy" (e.g. "Operation Overlord" would probably be Overlord Daisakusen)--its more lit. meaning is "do/produce war/fight". Adam Restling (talk) 11:54, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

The Translation of Volume Poems
Earlier today, I edited the volume poems on ten Wikia pages to have their translations match the ones present Viz's volumes. The pages in question are: KING OF THE KILL FEAR FOR FIGHT THE LUST SHOCK OF THE QUEEN KINGDOM OF HOLLOWS VICE IT Love me Bitterly Loth me Sweetly EL VERDUGO BEAUTY IS SO SOLITARY THE BAD JOKE

I had done this in the past to little opposition, but it seems as though the rules have changed. Moreover, a significant number of Bleach Wikia's volume pages already utilize the Viz translation for volume poems. Is there an issue with my edits, or should we leave them as is?

Moreover, should the Wikia use Viz's translations? Or random ones found on the internet? If I were to interject my own opinion, I have found that many amateur translators leave the poems broken and devoid of meaning. Phrasing becomes inconsistent and there are blatant errors. That's not to say that Viz is perfect, but I find that their versions are far more correct. Anyways, shall we discuss? L44021 (talk) 16:04, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Anyone? To be clear, I'm fluent in Japanese. Moreover, the Wikia even uses some of the translations that I've personally done myself--SHOCK OF THE QUEEN, to name one. I'd be willing to contest any issues anyone has with Viz's translations. I command a thorough knowledge of the language and can prove which of Viz's translations are more accurate (which is most of them by a significant amount). L44021 (talk) 00:58, August 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm all for someone like you, far fluenter (< a real word?! maybe not ;) ) being here to handle the longer and more idiomatic passages which, as I've always said, daunt and thwart me (I'm best at words in isolation, or small expressions).


 * Viz's work should generally be taken with a grain, if not a pound, of salt, if you ask me; need I recall the reports of them translating Cero as "Doom Blast" > "Doom Cero"? They're useful, and in a lot of cases probably not too far from decent translations; but it sounds like we'd be better suited to having someone like you, or a group of someones like yous (?), to make your own translations direct from the original Japanese--perhaps with input from me, since I enjoy contributing (when my PC allows it) and I enjoy poesy, and would cry if you guys had no more use nor welcome for me XD. Adam Restling (talk) 09:34, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Bleach GC
The page for the Bleach GameCube game contains a list of stages in an odd romanisation form which is different to the rest of the wiki. (It looks like Nihon-shiki, but 'say'?) However, most of these romanisations can be recovered and should probably thus be translated. unfortunately, searching for kanjified versions, I can't seem to get any results, which suggests there's no equivalent Japanese list. :/ They are: Bluesun1 (talk) 14:03, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Original text: 'corrected romaji': possible kanji 'Translation'
 * Senzaikyumae: 'Senzaikyū-mae': 懺罪宮前 'In front of the Senzaikyū'
 * Syokeiyouato: Likely 'Shokeijō-ato': 処刑場後 'Remains of the Execution Site'
 * Soukyokuno Oka: 'Sōkyoku no Oka': 双殛の丘 'Sōkyoku Hill'
 * Sisinrouwatarirouka: 'Shishinrō Watarirōka': 四深牢渡廊下 'Shishinrō Passage'
 * Sanbantaitaisaymae: 'San-bantai Taisha-mae': 三番隊隊舎前 'Outside the 3rd Division Barracks'
 * Senzaikyuhiroba: 'Senzaikyū Hiroba': 懺罪宮広場 'Senzaikyū Plaza'
 * Rukongai: obvious
 * Seireitei - Yanenoue: 'Seireitei - Yane no Ue': 瀞霊廷・屋根の上 'Seireitei: Roof'
 * Seireitei - Mori: 'Seireitei - Mori': 瀞霊廷・森 'Seireitei: Forest'
 * Soukyokuchika - Benkyoubeya: 'Sōkyoku Chika - Benkyōbeya': 双殛地下・勉強部屋 'Training Room - Underneath the Sōkyoku'
 * Seireiteidori: 'Seireitei-doori': 瀞霊廷通 'A Street in Seireitei'
 * Chikasuidou: 'Chikasuidō': 地下水道 'Sewers'


 * Looks like a good job, and very exhaustive, Sun, thanks :). Indeed, many of the former names do appear to have been derived from some confusion of Nihonshiki forms, riddled with elided letters (e.g. the second's element, Syokeiyou~, does seem to have been meant to be Syokei z you~ = Hepburnshiki Shokeijou~) and wildly inconsistent word boundaries (as the yanenoue for yane no ue you cite, etc.). Adam Restling (talk) 09:45, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Chapter 502: San'ou
Hello again Adam. It's nice to see you're back! PC problems again? I know how that feels. I'm having some of my own XD! Anyway, I need some help with finding some kanji again. If you don't already know, on this wiki if a chapter name is in Japanese the page name is in Kanji (example 504. 雷鳴の彼方へ) but for whatever reason chapter 502. San'ou is in romaji. I have found the raw but I can't seem to find the kanji. If you could please use your super awesome kanji finding powers that would be great! Thanks!--Kisukeiscool100396 (talk) 19:15, September 4, 2012 (UTC) http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg444/scaled.php?server=444&filename=bleach502raw4.jpg&res=landing


 * Nice to be back, however long it lasts :) (hope it's long XD).


 * Looks like the Kanji are 散桜 "scattering sakura" (i.e. "scattering cherry blossom[s]"), a darkly-poetic allusion and reversal of Byakuya's signature weapon.


 * And especial thanks for providing me the raw link; with Ju-Ni apparently gone, I'm having trouble finding raws of any kind of quality lately (Mangahead's can sometimes work, but they're often so grainy it can obscure certain things, like the oh-so-helpful furigana). Adam Restling (talk) 02:23, September 5, 2012 (UTC)