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Xilinoc wrote: Wri-El wrote:

What about it?? He used a bankai technique while in Shikai or whatever. Doesn't that raise any questions to you? Like for example... "Damn. He just used a black getsuga tenshou while in Shikai. Or is it a shikai? Maybe it isn't. Maybe like hollows or Arrancars in this case, the sealed form of his powers are those dual blades. And getsuga tenshou isn't even his real power, but just a basic technique. After all both Urahara and Isshin both have used Getsuga Tenshou in one way or another. So most likely we haven't seen Ichigo true powers yet." You're aware that the black Getsuga is less representative of Bankai and more of the influence of Ichigo's inner Hollow/Zanpakuto spirit, right? It's black because the longer sword represents the real Zangetsu, while the shorter sword represents Old Man Zangetsu (and thus fires a blue/white Getsuga instead).

Right. But what does this means in terms of what his true Shikai powers are? Why do I see most people not asking this questions?

Look. For a good deal of time, Kuroi Getsuga was a bankai technique only. In fact many people directly linked it to his bankai or being part of his bankai power. But now we've seen him use both the regular Getsuga Tenshou and Kuroi Getsuga while wielding both blades. The same blades that most people call his Shikai "true form" and almost no one questions the why's. And the implications they might have.

Do you honestly believe that Getsuga Tenshou is Ichigo Shikai real power? Don't you want Ichigo shikai powers to be something else, something more elaborate, cooler? It's true that his shinigami and hollow powers are fused together, they're one, but don't you think that only means that if anything a Shikai power either be it Kidou based or elemental based shouldn't also be there? Getsuga to me seems more of a generic technique that anyone could use it. It doesn't feel like a Shikai at all. And now that I'm mentioning this, neither does Ichigo current level of power seems to match what he should be. He should be at least in the same level when he fought Aizen, but he clearly isn't.