Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26511634-20150619122040/@comment-1429792-20160116135038

Wri-El wrote:

Actually he was a Vasto Lord. If you search for the definition of Vasto Lord everything in its appearance was that of a Vasto Lord. The same way everyone was saying that during Ulquiora fight Ichigo turned into a Vasto Lord.

When the White self-destructed, if you remember Tousen words, he said the hollow had self-destructed because it had reached its maximum evolution.

Neither of those points are correct. If you look at the definition of a Vasto Lorde it is a conglomeration of Hollows which undergoes three stages of evolution by feeding on each other (Gilligan -> Adjuchas -> Vasto Lorde) and is similar or above a captain in combat ability, as well as being human sized. White most certainly was not that powerful and as you said yourself, White was made from Shinigami souls, not Hollows. Ergo he is not a vasto lorde, he just looks like one might expect a VL to look. You cannot take parts of a definition and say that because it matches part of it, it fits the entire thing, especially when there is a contradiction in how White and VL are formed, which is a more important part of the definition. Ditto with Ichigo, he just looks like White.

As for Tosen saying it reached its end stage, he was not suggesting White a was VL, its just as far as that experiment was capable of progressing. Indeed that was its purpose - to infect a Shinigami with Hollowfication and self-destructing the body was a sign that this had happened. That is what is being referred to, not VL.

I am closing this now as it is much too far off topic and was dead before you posted in it.