Forum:Shinji Hirako

This thread is dedicated to the discussion of Shinji Hirako. Do not create threads about him outside of here, as they will only be merged with this one. -- Yyp  (Talk)  23:43, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Shinji's hollow form
Does anyboady remember when shinji was hollowfying and part of his ribs were becoming like a skeleton? Could this be part of his hollow form, like the one kensei got, and if so why hasn't anybody noticed or mentioned it? I think it can be seen around the time that shinji is talking to aizen in the turn back the pendulum mini-series in the manga. I'm not sure about the anime.Renshiro zaraki 23:34, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

I would've thought something else happened to Kensei considering that he couldn't even recognize who Shinji or the other vizards were. I thought Shinji had some sort of control over himself considering he didn't just go beserk and start attacking everyone. But that's my opinion. HollowFunk 10:56, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Shinji's Shikai
I don't think that was Hirako saying anything. There was no speech bubble there. It was just the caption describing what Shinji was trying to do i.e. cut off Aizen's head. --Yyp 16:35, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Since when do they do a captain for an action. Im more inclined to believe that was the command for his shikai.Salubri 18:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Well right at the end of the previous chapter there was a caption for Shinji's initial swing. BollyW 22:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

So he was probably about to release his zanpakuto in-order to give Aizen less chances to escape and Tosen interfered.


 * Well I don't think he was gonna release it at all, but I doubt it makes a difference really. We might find out soon! BollyW 06:55, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Could it be possible that the yellowish blast that stopped Grimmjow from blasting Rukia's head off with a cero was an ability of Shinji's shikai? Medrike14 02:38, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

That's a maybe since there are Kido spells that are yellow, such as Raikoho.--SalmanH 14:12, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

In the new chapter, when shinji tries to cut aizen, he yells "sever!" This could be his shikai release command as tosen cut him right after he said it. What is everyone else's thoughts?


 * Well, seems that's settled now. His release is Collapse and we see his shikai's form & abilities in chapter 387. Pretty good if you ask me. Potentially very powerful (so long as he's not fighting Aizen). -- Yyp  (Talk)  23:43, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

ya, i have to agree. and it took probably half a year but we finally see what his shikai looks like and does. and i think it looks cool.Soul reaper magnum 08:46, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

I'm just a little disappointed to Shinji, u know y?? because he just said the abilities of his zanpakutou to Aizen 4 free if i were him i would just shut my mouth close. But i like this chapter cause at least we know that the real Aizen was fighting Shinji.--Frostymoon 9:31, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

even Shinji will not tell about his zanpakuto, Aizen will figure it out what it is. He is not stupid or slow enough to know Sakanade's abilities before Shinji cuts him into pieces. But Shinji also shows overconfidence at that episode, and it might be that Aizen will read almost every move he executes.Hellblazer17 14:10, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

i thought of this the other night, if you look back through the story we are given hints to shinji's shikai ability long before he shows it, when he first arrived in karakura town he was always seen upside down watching ichigo, and then when he wrote his name on the chalk board it was back wards and he said doing things back wards was a special talent of his. I find it interesting because that shows the in depth development of character that Kubo talks about he likes about writing. Shillagan 19:31, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Yes Shinji's overconfidence was visible throughout the episode.. but i loved the fact that he landed a blow on Aizen... the till now seemingly untouchable Aizen got cut. This leaves hope that he can be beaten. Kishen1912 11:17, December 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * And that's strange. Aizen could block Ichigo's bankai with his finger, but Shinji, not using his mask, was able to injure Aizen with just his shikai. Weird... PSH aka Kimera 757 (talk) contribs) 23:20, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ya but if ya think of ichigos and kens first fight ichigo couldnt cut him at first, i know it was his shikai but i would think a similar Principle would apply. I am kinda hoping to see Shinji's bankai before ichigo jumps into the battle but i am not sure that will happen. Shillagan 23:51, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I wonder if Shinji can control who his shikai affects. Now that Ichigo is there, won't he also smell the shikai and enter the inverted world?--Black Artist 00:19, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

my guess would be that shinji will stop using his shikai so it doesn't effect ichigo when he starts fighting.Soul reaper magnum 16:02, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Only if he's losing. (Which is likely.) But he'd be smarter to use bankai, I think. PSH aka Kimera 757 (talk) contribs) 22:41, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Better yet, Shinji should use his Ressureccion, if he has one. Kaname had one, but he was classified as a hybrid. Shinji and Ichigo would make a good team, but Shinji will most likely be upstaged by "the hero".--Kylecharmed 00:26, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think Shinji was cut by Aizen, If you follow the logic of his shikai. --Tallmoose 16:29, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Tallmoose...I originally thought something along those same lines, but it can't be correct as Aizen was wounded as well BEFORE Shinji was ever hit. so if you continue to follow the logic as you say, then Shinji would've been hit before Aizen. I'm just going under the assumption (brought on by the look of shock Shinji had on his face that he was indeed hit) Orionradar 03:20, January 8, 2010 (UTC) Orionradar, I just went and looked at it again you're right he does have a shock of being cut--Tallmoose 05:15, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

At the time of his introduction, Shinji spelled his name backwards. He then stated that one of his talents was Reversing things.

Coincidence? I think it was a hint at his Shikai.

A quick question for anyone that might know. Is Sakanade's ability able to be targeted by Shinji or does it effect everyone around once he releases it? I'm wondering this because Hitsugaya seemed unaffected during the last chapter when he stabbed Aizen yet he should've been close enough to get the same ramifications of Shinji's shikai. As Shinji left SS before Hitsugaya was a captain, he would have no prior knowledge/understanding/practice with Shinji's shikai except what he saw in Shinji's brief tussle with Aizen. Just a random thought. Orionradar 15:10, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

There is actually no way to determine if Toshiro was affected or not. To his dismay he have wanted to attacke Aizen from the front but just landed the hit from behind and didnt care as long as he struck Aizen down. Then again we will need to know when Shinji had Sakanade released because if was release earlier then Shunsui and Soifon would have been affected as well. But if you are just asking for opinions then I think its target based. Or maybe even situation based. Maybe he can choose when are where to reverse things once released. Maybe he chose to reverse Toshiro's attack and not everything around it. Its hard to say until we get more detail on its abilites. Tealang99 18:09, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

when Shinji releases he is able to get aizen to smell a scent persumibly from his sword and then aizen starts seeing things reversed, so as long as he didn't release the smell they would not be affected, which might be why he sealed his sword, when he's in front of ichigo with everyone else. it might be like aizen's in the way that once you are affected by it when he releases you are affected by it again instantly as when he releases it again aizen instanly goes back to a reversed world, so shinji might have only released it when aizen noticed hitsugya.Bluegetsuga 20:29, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Shinji vs. Aizen
Is it just me or did that go far too badly considering Shinji's the unofficial leader of the Vizards? Presumably that means he's the most powerful, and he is of course Aizen's predecessor - and was even able to see through Kyoka Suigetsu, to an extent - so he can't exactly be unskilled.

But that last battle with Aizen... man. It lasted, what? A chapter? That whole chapter consisted of: Shinji releasing, explaining his Shikai to Aizen (?!) and then getting beat up with only a single hit to his name. Don't get me wrong, that one hit was a pretty good achievement since nobody else has been able to touch Aizen so far, but still. If he was going to explain the whole thing of his Shikai, his unique abilities, before actually using them, shouldn't he have followed it up by doing something unexpected? Hollowfication-Bankai combo, perhaps? Just seems a bit silly to me.

(And speaking of which, I was really hoping to see his Bankai. Or at least, his Shikai for more than ten pages. It's a nice ability, but Tite's not really shown it off much, has he?)

Basically, my point is, why couldn't Shinji do more? Is he unable to fight Aizen for some reason that goes deeper than Kyoka Suigetsu's illusions? I just can't think of a reason why he would hold back, but it looks as though he was - or he's a lot stupider than a captain should be - so can anybody think why this could be? Snappydog 18:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

my guess would be he was just holding him off until ichigo got there.Soul reaper magnum 09:15, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

In that case soul reaper magnum, do you believe Bleach and/or this Arc is about over seeing as how Ichigo showed up? I still don't really believe that Aizen will stick around to continue fighting. I believe his illusion capabilities will somehow allow him to drastically change the fight against Ichigo and everyone else, or he will disappear (to who knows where). Either way, I don't see it ending this soon. (Obviously I have no knowledge of what will happen next, just speculation) Orionradar 15:53, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

well, i know that bleach isn't about to end because TK has said there are going to be at least two more arcs. and i'm going to guess that he might finally use his bankai to escape from every one.Soul reaper magnum 01:40, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Sakanade
Back in shinji introduced himself in class in the chapter called "Hush" he made a reference to writing backwards well or being skilled at doing things in reverse or something along those lines. Do you think that even as far back as that Kubo knew what sakanade's abilities would be? Was that a little hint to it's abilities? Renshiro zaraki 07:31, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, i think Kubo had planned it from the beginning (when he introduced Shinji who was upside down, and also when he wrote his name backwards). I like that Kubo drops subtle hints for events much further down the line; It is something refreshing to reflect on in retrospect =) UnknownKido 10:25, February 11, 2010 (UTC)