Forum:Tia Harribel

Well I've been thinking that it's a tad odd that in the current matchups we've seen Barragan and then Starrk fight, while Harribel is still to be seen against the vizards. In the previous Gotei - arrancar fights, it went in order of power, so fraccion vs vice-captains, then third espada, second and primera. This time around, when clearly it's for real as shown by the death of Barragan and the near death of Starrk (perhaps), we've skipped the Tres and gone straight to the top two. Showing the weaker fights first to build up to the stronger ones is a popular story telling mechanism and Kubo has followed it almost religiously so far, 9th espada died first, admittedly 6th was defeated next but other then that it has been in numerical order. Which leads me to believe that Harribel has something up her rather small sleeves because otherwise it wouldn't be very entertaining to have the top two killed and then go back to the third and she's just the third still. There's no fun in that.

So what I thought about was the aspects of death that the espada each represent. Funnily enough they haven't really had much influence on anything excpet the espada's personalities up until the top few, Barragan is obvious, and Starrk's power to split himself into seperate bodies to stave off loneliness was an interesting twist. Sacrifice. Maybe, and this is obviously just speculation, but maybe with every death of her compadre's, Harribel gains power. She did attack more ferociously when her Fraccion died, and obviously that was partly due to affection, but maybe there was something to do with their power flowing into her. Anyway, something like that would spice up her fight and ensure that once Starrk bit the dust there was still some point to her duel. BollyW 00:11, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Yea,I was thinking of that too.. and i wondered something:What if Aizen planned this?What if he wanted the first 2 espada to die or get brutaly injured and like Barragan used her aspect of death as the advantage as in something along the lines of Sacrificing herself, to ressurect all the other espada? or sacrificing her body for all the other espada to take control over after the grave?or i can be juat a big loonie.

As long as it doesn't bring Barragan back to life I'll be happy. I was more thinking of just gaining raw power but I'm sure there's heaps of ways it could go down... BollyW 00:57, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I call explosion! She goes all H-bomb and explodes! Tinni 01:47, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe everyone is looking way to deep into this. With all the other aspects the Espada showed them in their personality. The aspects weren't really represented as abilities until you look at Starrk with his loneliness allows him to split his soul into countless wolves. Then theres yammy who increases his power with rage and Barragan with the whole time manipulation because of his old age aspect. The problem that sacrifice isn't some tangible ability really i mean its an action but nothing someone can actively fight with. she can sacrifice herself on behalf of another which would make it a personality thing like the vast majority of espada, also nothing about her powers which are obviously elemental (water) depict or insinuate any connection to another power. She is more then likely just selfless or willing to take a short term loss for a greater gain. Maybe her faccions deaths allowed her to be the greater gain, as in a chess match. So either its a personality issue or its already taken place and we didn't notice. If she truly believes in Aizen and is devoted to him she will sacrifice herself to save him from a killing blow or something or give her life for him in some way, assuming she is that devoted we havent seen that really. The only reason I can think of is that this battle beside Hitsugaya's involvement will be a girl fight and they wanna keep the urgency up cause it has more tension then just a issue of power, girls rarely fight each other, especially in bleach. Each espada battle (resulting in death) so far are men against men except for the rukia vs aaronaerio battle. I don't think its about following his usual mechanism of weaker to stronger. Its about balance at this point showing the strength of girls in a serious to the death fight. It was saved for last cause we have never seen the likes of it yet in bleach.Salubri 18:19, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

You could well be right and that it is purely because it's a high level female fight, but you agree with my point that the aspects of death has only really applied to the espada that were still alive after Barragan first mentioned it, possibly because Kubo didn't think up the idea until then. So in that case Harribel could have some sort of sacrifice related power. But yeh I was really just speculating and your explanation is at least as feasible as mine :P BollyW 23:10, September 19, 2009 (UTC)