Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner

The Translation Corner is a group of Bleach Wiki users who are tasked with translating the various names, abilities, techniques and etc. found in the Bleach Universe. Being that Bleach is a Japanese manga that use Japanese, Chinese, Indian, German, Spanish and English language in various instances and cases, the use of translators is a focal point to the continuation of accuracy on the wiki. All users should read our Translation Guidelines before you start translating.

Roles of the Translation Corner
The following are the duties of the corner:


 * 1. To assure the correctness of all translations that are presented on the site.


 * 2. To determine the outcome of Contentious Translations: If a translation is questioned at all, that should be brought up in this section. In this way a translator, committee member or admin can explain why the translation is used or conversation can take place for translations that are harder to classify.


 * 3. To determine the correct translation of Zanpakutō (names, release calls, etc.): This section is for requests for translation of zanpakuto and zanpakuto related translations.


 * 4. To determine the correct translation of Character and element (e.g. devices) names: This section is for requests for translation of characters/techniques/equipment and general key words.


 * 5. To determine the correct translation of General/Other translation issues (e.g. conjugation/miscellanea): This section is for requests about translations that don't fit any particular criteria such as conjugation or such things such as accents used in the names.

Associate Members

 * Adam Restling (Primary Japanese Translator)
 * MarqFJA (Secondary Japanese Translator)
 * Vraieesprit (Japanese to English Translation)
 * ЖенёqSig.png

References & Sources

 * Kanji-to-English:
 * Tangorin
 * Mahou Kanji Dictionary
 * Kanji Networks
 * OldNihongo.J-Talk.Com
 * Basic Japanese verbal data: The imperative inflection of Japanese verbs

Associate Box
Ok folks I have finally gotten around to makeing the Associate Box. You can put it on your user page using the command. Below is what the box looks like. Tinni  (Talk)  14:37, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Translation Guidelines

 * Anyone doing any form of translation. Looking up on Google Translate or similar translation tools, is not translating. You are not doing the site any favors by doing amateur translation. Please refrain from using such tools.


 * This is not a conversation page. It is a simple question and answer page for translation. All conversations should be held on a particular user talk page or the talk page of this page.


 * Users should simply place their request and wait for it to be answered. To keep it simple, if the user posting the request has no real understanding of translation, the point is not for you to learn how to translate here. Usage of the page should extend no more then to asking for a translation to be done. Please refrain from badgering the translators for understanding on why a translation is translated a certain way. If you knew anything about translation you wouldn't be asking someone else to do it, therefore it makes no sense to argue with them.


 * If you are not a member of the translation corner, please do not answer translation questions. Leave it to our translators so as to avoid confusion.


 * Admin have the final say on the translation being placed into a article.

Hitsugaya's New Techniques
So we have two new techniques for hitsugaya that needs translations.

Ryōjin Hyōheki : 俺が綾陣氷壁で足止めする！ (the kanji is somewhere in this sentence) : Woven Ice Wall? - ch 550

Rokui Hyōketsujin - ch 551 --

Ryōjin hyōheki (綾陣氷壁), assuming the Kanji are correct, means something (as Salubri guessed) like "woven-/shaped-array ice wall"; like I mentioned under the previous chapters' "hollow ice wall" queries, there's no guarantee this is a technique name and not just a description of what the technique does. Usually, if it is intended as a name, we get something like quotes around it, e.g. Sui-Feng's "Mukyū Shunkō".

I don't have a raw for ch. 551 yet, so hopefully I can get it--and so the rest the answers--soon :). Adam Restling (talk) 01:21, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * . By the way, no quotes again. — ЖенёqSig.png 11:49, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the Kanji. Despite the lack of quotes, this one seems more likely (if not confirmed) as an actual technique name, since it uses non-common words and is spoken as kind of a stand-alone thing instead of an explanation. Rokui Hyōketsujin looks to mean "six-clothed ice binding-array", referring to its snare "binding" the target from within the array of six snowflake-like "grid" points. Adam Restling (talk) 10:06, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Error on Resurreción page
For "Fénix" it should read (不滅王 (フェニーチェ), Fenīche, but instead is (憤獣 (イーラ), which is actually Yammy's Ira. Rabukurafuto (talk) 22:04, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter 556
For some reason, the 556 raw isn't out on mangahead yet, but a translated version's already up. In any case, Komamura introduces a new bankai. Well, sort of. It's apparently called "Kokujō Tengen Myōō Dangai Joue" and I'm kinda curious. Anyone? --Reikson (talk) 16:47, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Translations for Ch 551
We have to confirm the translation for bazz-b's techniques and for the kido that Nanao used.

Burner Finger 1 : バーナーフィンガー

Burning Stomp - ch 551

Hakūdan Keppeki

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Burner Finger 1 (バーナーフィンガー1(ワン) Bānā Fingā Wan) looks correct.

I don't have a raw for the rest (chiefly ch. 551); hope to soon :). Adam Restling (talk) 01:04, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * — ЖенёqSig.png 11:39, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * — ЖенёqSig.png 11:39, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * — ЖенёqSig.png 11:39, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again. Looks like the katakana for the "burn" pair are correct. Hakudan Keppeki seems to mean "white severing boundary wall"; the element 結 "fasten, tie, bind" turns up in the frequent-in-manga word kekkai (結界) "barrier" (< "bound world/realm"). I'd guess that since "white" is also often used in the sense we would clear or blank that the reference is to a transparent boundary wall that cuts the caster off from attacks from outside. Adam Restling (talk) 10:00, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter 552 stuff
Another raw, more stuff to translate.

First up: Cang Du's title - The Iron (kana seems to be either シアイアン/Shiaian or ジアイアン/Jiaian, can't tell), from the bottom panel here.

Next is the Shineiyaku pills. I don't have the resources for Kanji typing at my disposal, but it's the top panel here.

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EDIT: Okay..... uh.... don't click those links. Mangahead doesn't seem to like being linked. Anyway, it's pages 3 and 11 of the raw.....

Thanks for the help; and yeah, Mangahead doesn't like teh links. Yep: Cang Du is apparently Sternritter "I": "The Iron" (星十字騎士団 "I" 「鋼鉄」 (シュテルンリッター アイ ジ・アイアン) Shuterunrittā Ai Ji Aian); ji is used to simulate the with its pronunciation before a vowel sound of dhee (rather than thǝ, as occurs before a consonant sound; this is rendered by Japanese za). The underlying Kanji of The Iron (鋼鉄) actually mean "steel" (kōtetsu)--though lit. the compound is "steel" + "iron"; Kubo did a similar thing (if I'm remembering right) with the Arrancars' Hierro which, while Spanish for "iron", had underlying Kanji meaning "steel skin".

Shineiyaku (侵影薬) means "shadow-raiding drug(s)"; specifically, yaku/kusuri covers "drug(s), medicine, medication", etc. Adam Restling (talk) 10:36, October 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's Shin'eiyaku, isn't it? — ЖенёqSig.png 10:56, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

If it has to be; I personally loathe the artificiality of distinguishing mora-closing -n from mora-closing vowel + following mora-opening n- in such a way (an apostrophe or hyphen or whatnot) ;). Adam Restling (talk) 21:05, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Zanjutsu Instructor: Nagamoso Shūtetsu?
Can we please get some verification on the text from this picture from volume 60's in between chapter sketches. It purportedly reveals the name of this character as "Nagamoso Shūtetsu". Thanks, 11:03, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

"Shéjìngzhǎo"... or "Shéjìnzhǎo"?
The apparent technique that Cang Du uses in ch. 553 ("Frozen Cross") has the Kanji 蛇勁爪 "snake-strong claw(s)" (read: strong snake claw(s) ?), and the phonetic katakana spelling Shejintsao (シェジンツァオ). The chief problem is, in the intended Mandarin, 勁 could be spelled as either jìng OR jìn, although I *think* the first may be the more common--and both of these would prob. be spelt jin in katakana. So I'm not sure exactly which is the correct, intended spelling. For a smidge more explanation re: this, see here. Also note that one could, informally, drop the tone diacritics and just write the name as Shejin(g)zhao (like the databooks do with Sui-Feng). Adam Restling (talk) 13:45, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Heilig Pfeil
On Yhwach someone copied the wrong katakana for the reading of Heilig Pfeil's Japanese name. It should be ハイリッヒ・プファイル Hairihhi Pufairu but someone wrote ハイリッヒ・ブファイル Hairihhi Bufairu and apparently this is contentious despite the fact that the Japanese pronunciation of other instances of the German word "Pfeil" is Pufairu.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龍 ) 11:03, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Special War Powers
Alright, I looked through the archives and found that the term "Special War Power" was discussed here. In said discussion, Adam said that he wasn't quite sure how to put all of the kanji together at that point. Now, the term we currently use is the one which was used in the speedscans of the chapters it was mentioned in, and as we know, those can be...unreliable, to put it lightly. Hence, my request is this: could you take another look at the kanji and determine a definite term, Adam?

Here's the kanji for reference: 特記戦力

--Xilinoc (talk) 22:28, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

特記戦力 Tokki Senryoku is a combination of tokki, "special mention/notation, notability" (< toku "special, distinct" + ki "account, chronicle, notation") and senryoku "fighting power(s)" (more or less a lit. rendering).

If I were to try another crack at translating it, I think I'd render it "notable/noted fighting power(s)". "Special war power(s)/potential(s)" is just another possible rendering. But this (特記戦力) is an invented and not a commonly used compound (though made up of the two common compounds, 特記 and 戦力), so it's a bit more awkward translating it into an English form both accurate in meaning and not ponderous-looking or -sounding. Adam Restling (talk) 01:33, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Balancers
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/ShadeofDemon/Balancer_zps85eccc3a.jpg

Finally got a hold of the RAW with the kanji/kana for the term "Balancers." Could we get a translation and confirmation on this one? Mohrpheus  (Talk)  03:30, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry; I didn't realize this term had till-now been without such data. Balancer(s) (調整者 （バランサー） Baransā)--and those Kanji do seem correct--combines -者 -er (noun suffix, often with an agential or derivational-of-the-root meaning) with 調整, which is more often translated "regulation, adjustment, modification, tuning" (< 調 "tune, tone, style, mode" + 整 "organize, arrange"), but could reasonably (as in its use here) be applied to "balance".