Talk:Hachigen Ushōda

Hachigen's mask has been confirmed to not be a plain mask with goggle eyes. Should we change it to unknown until the recent chapter comes out? Ninken 18:15, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


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Which is it?
In the synopsis section it says that he cut off the heads of the gillians using his levitating sword but in his abilities section it says that he used his barrier. I don't remember seeing his sword at all after the second page of chapter 366.


 * He only used the barriers. Most of the Vizards didn't use their swords after that one page where they drew them. LapisScarab 04:16, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

It has been taken out as its obviously wrong.Salubri 04:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


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sword
could someone add a picture of his Zanpakutō to his page, as i don't know how Fawcettp 04:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Swordsmanship Specialist
How is he a "Swordsmanship Specialist"? That implies he has concentrated in development in swordsmanship. He clearly is a kidou specialist with knowledge of swordsmanship. Not a "swordsmanship specialist". Tinni 11:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

He is considered a swordsmanship specialist on parameters of having trained in a formalized military the fact that he is not listed as any particular skill in it (expert/master) signify's his lack of use, but he still possesses a zanpakuto like any shinigami, so therefore has some knowledge of its use. All Shinigami have some level of Swordsmanship and if you had read the zanjutsu article you would know that the term the way it is listed means that he has no real skill in it.Salubri 15:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

O I see, my mistake. It seems this is just a ranking you made up for the wiki. Tinni 02:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes there just had to be something to define people for their titles. So your former issue was correct, but it has been takin into account so the pages themselves can be accurate. Just wanted to refer you to that.Salubri 02:36, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

'Bakuda'
Hey guys, I was reading the article and I noticed that somebody had written 'bakuda,' as opposed to 'bakudou' or 'bakudō'

I was wondering if this was done for any particular reason, or if it was just a mistake. If it was the latter, we should probably look for it in any other articles. :/

The correct was bakudō and not Bakuda or bakudou as we are western based we dont elongate the word by using the japanese form. Having said that there are times when in the course of writing and updating the articles that people dont have the time or remember to put the accent mark above the o.Salubri 16:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, 'bakudou' would be a correct romanized version of the word as it produces the same effect as 'o' with a macron over i. Both are used frequently, which is why I mentioned both. Although using 'ō' is standard in the Hepburn system of romanization, one of the many. Swoosherz 21:53, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The point being we dont use the u as you said it can be done either way but we just use the o without the u.Salubri 04:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Trivia
With the release of the latest chapter, it may be worth noting that Hachigen was the first of the Vizard (as in, a member of the group, not the race) to defeat an Espada...

But... he doesn't seem to have a trivia section? Someone mind adding it? I don't have the time to figure it out...

Abilities
I waschecking the abilities section and noticed that it doesn't mention his analitical ability, which he clearly hasm, seeing how he saw through Barragan's ability. And myabe it could be considered some sort of strategic ability (I don't remember the name we use) that he figured how to use Barragan's power against him. Lia Schiffer 19:35, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Thats far from something that should be listed, we really need not try to list something just because someone has an idea. Barragan clearly talks alot and gave away a possible weakness it was really not strategy because as hachi states it was a hunch that he just so happened to be right about. So plainly he admits he got lucky, given that anyone could reasonably came to a similar idea. As well would it be worth putting up if it hadn't worked, no. So thats not a relevant enough situation that took place that would constitute him having any strategic ability thats really discernible.Salubri 19:59, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Hacchi Zanpakuto
I was wondering if it possible to get a waiver on the rule for image policy regarding the opening sequence for Hacchi's Zanpakuto. We are using an image from the opening sequence for Yachiru's zanpakuto and in this case the only real difference between the picture in the opening sequence and the actual episode would be that Hacchi will have his mask on when he will call forth is zanpakuto. This is of no consequence as the goal in this case is to highlight the zanpakuto itself. This would also mean that this is one image that won't have to be replaced when the actual episode comes out as Hacchi never uses his zanpakuto and this is pretty much the only glimpse we get of the zanpakuto. What do you guys think? Tinni  (Talk)  11:15, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't Hachi holding his Zanpakuto when Ichigo first walks into the Vizard warehouse? Maggosh 14:21, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, if you can get a better detail on the sword, then it'd be good, but unless/until you can do that, this one should be used. --| WhiteArmor | (Talk) |-- 15:24, April 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I did a little editing in the Zanpakuto section earlier, leaving it in the following form (minus some links I've removed):

His Zanpakutō has a broad blade and a square shaped hilt. Hachigen has demonstrated that he can summon it via Kidō, as demonstrated in the Fake Karakura Town arc, though he is seen actually holding it in its sheathe during his first appearances in the series. It is only seen unsheathed once, around this same time.

My edits were reverted with the note "This isn't remotely how information is supposed to be added onto an article or how its supposed to be referenced."

Would you care to explain my errors, aside from the external links? (Until next time... Anon e Mouse Jr.) Anon e Mouse Jr. 03:34, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Im not aware of who made the entire amount of edits but I was only made aware of the problems upon your edits. In accordance with the Manual of style only in-universe is used in the articles. Listing that something took place in a particular arc isn't acceptable. How to properly make a reference is also found under source referencing in the manual of style as well. Whether it was seen in a sheathe or unsheathed one is not important information, only that it was apparently brought out in a unique way is of interest. It also goes without saying that external links to other sights are never to be placed on the site accept in designated areas commonly handled by others for spoilers in the spoiler page.Salubri (Talk)  03:45, May 14, 2010 (UTC)