Forum:Kensei Muguruma

Here, you can hold general discussions about the Vizard Kensei Muguruma. Please do not make new topics about him, as they will simply be deleted and merged here. Twocents 00:02, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Kensei's Bankai
Though we really havent got a full taste of his abilities in Bankai. I think it looks pretty good and will do some damage. What do you think?Tealang99 19:42, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * So far; I believe it suits his direct personality well, while still remaining true to the wind focused abilities of his shikai, as it's appearance instantly made me think of the japanese god of wind Fūjin. Blackstar1 20:21, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I think it looks cool & powerful. I like it. Minato88 21:02, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

When the Vizards first started fighting and releasing their Zanpakuto, I have to admit that I wasn't impressed with Love's and Rose's Shikais, and we still have yet to see the abilities of Hiyori's and Lisa's Shikais. Having said that, I like the appearance of Kensei's Bankai, and like Blackstar said, it made me think of Fujin right away. I just hope that his Bankai won't just be more emphasis on his elemental abilities, like a lot of Zanpakuto are. Nekura Wabizumai 21:10, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

So how are a combat knife, hockey mask and Fujin in any way related? It seems that when Tite is lazy or desperate, he falls back onto matching their mask/shikais. Except this time for whatever reason they don't match. 21:26, October 9, 2009 (UTC)Superchunky from Denver 21:26, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

How are any of the Vizards' masks, besides Love's, similar to their other abilities? Rose's was a bird mask and he used a rose whip. Lisa had a mask reminiscent of a ninja, and had a spear as a weapon. None of them have any similarities. I personally think Kensei's Bankai is kicken, and It makes me feel like he is the second strongest. I know it hasn't been proven, but we know for certain he is hellish strong as he easily held back hollow ichigo in Bankai mode with just his shikai and muscle power.--Moe1216 23:59, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Ummm I think it kinda lookjs alot like Gantennainne Moqueda(however the hell ya spell it) JUST because of the arch in the back, the hand blades and the way it wraps on his armsZanderthagreat 00:20, October 10, 2009 (UTC)Zanderthagreat

Dual-Blade Type Zanpakuto?
Should Kensei be classified as a dual type zanpakuto? I know its not his shikai release but it still seems like it is a dual zanpakuto. Quadrupus 17:15, October 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * No way. All other dual-type zanpakuto were dual type in their Shikai form, but ironically known have been seen in Bankai. The phrase dual-type comes from when Yamamoto on ep 55(I think thats the one)commented on Jushiros & Shunsuis Zanpakuto. That time Yamamoto said they were the only two dual type zanpakuto(excluding Shuhei who has recently been added). I know its Bankai could possibly be considered a dual type, but I for one don't consider it to be since its Shikai isn't. Minato88 17:40, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, well his bankai shouldn't count because it's not the first double bankai. The 6th captain could technically count because he could reform them back into swords, and at one point is seen holding two swords at once. This was roughly at the same time as when the comment was made about double swords, so i doubt it was the writer just forgetting. I always argue that the 9th lieutenant doesn't truly have double swords, becasue he's always throwing one when attacking and kind of uses them as a single blade. Plus, maybe someone could check, but did he say "you have double blades" or "you have double weapons" or something along those lines. My though is that maybe those two are paired swords, meaning they share a single attack or work togehter when used. It would explain with them being good friends, and always working together.

Why has Kenseis sword changed
Tjakari (talk) 04:49, August 28, 2010 (UTC)ok this is the first time iv made a forum but here i go so if anybodys seen the new episodes we se kensei stab a gillian but its changed its weird i mean back when Ichigo was training it was just a black knife plain and simmple but now it has all these decorations well this is what this forums for thank you for reading this f**** long statement.Tjakari (talk) 04:49, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

It was corrected. The anime got the drawing wrong initially. It was now corrected--God (Pray)  05:02, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

i was wondering about that myself. i figured TK desided to change it the way he did with gegetsuburi.Soul reaper magnum (talk) 03:03, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

No, the coloring just had not been released at the time the Anime had originally animated it--God (Pray)  03:04, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

o, i like the new one better anyway.Soul reaper magnum (talk) 03:05, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Truly? I prefer the old one myself. I don't know why but the moment I saw that thing the first time it made me really like Kensei. I just though he was so cool when I saw that thing. The new one is a little too flashy for my tastes but whatever--God (Pray)  03:12, August 29, 2010 (UTC

Yeah but didn't look it look the same in the tbpTjakari (talk) 17:16, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Possibly, Kubo doesnt release color pics often so the anime has to roll with whatever until a color drawing is released.--God (Pray)  22:26, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

that's probably true but you'd think that he'd send them color pics when they need them.Soul reaper magnum (talk) 23:32, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

No, Kubo was barely involved in the anime for a long time. He has only recently begun to oversee production of the anime and so back when Kenseis sword was first shown, the anime had to do what they could. There should hopefully be many less discrepancies like this now that he is more involved--God (Pray)  23:37, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Fake Karakura Town Aftermath
I am curious as to what exactly happened to Kensei after his fight with Wonderwiess?It is obvious that he was defeated,as Wonderwiess was shown a little while later in his released form battling Genrrysai Shigekuni Yamamato (and getting destroyed by Yamamato-sama).But the question still stands,was he killed,taken down,or was rendered unconcious?When the Visored are seen patched up by Unohana,Kensei is not seen amongst them.The last time he was seen was when he went Bankai and attacked Wonderwiess.So,what happened to him?Dragon fist red (talk) 03:36, December 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * He has not been seen since activating Bankai. We do not know what happened.--


 * Nobody but Kubo knows what happened to him or any other of the Visoreds since then!! The article talk pages are for discussion of the article not speculation on the characters!! Please keep this in mind!! SunXia   (Chat)  05:16, December 28, 2011 (UTC)