Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25360536-20140920031731/@comment-11269545-20150716213317

Thefandomlibrarian wrote: Ya’ll talking about Quincy Powers making the Original Zanpaktou (eh, second form really) solid are dumb for real. Or maybe just paying too much attention to the recent arcs... Let’s step back to the beginning. Zangetsu is a mix of Ichigos Shinigami heritage and the Hollow that infected Masaki yes? Furthermore Ichigo came out of Urahara's ditch wearing a Hollow Mask, and during his and Urahara's fight, the 'first form', that was Rukia's Zanaptou with Ichigo's reiatsu over powering it (as in; Zaraki's Zanpkatou after being taken from a dead Shinigami he defeated AND evidenced by Zangetsu’s form still looking more katana- like as opposed to its 'true form'), is sliced up into pieces. After a burst of energy (Getsuga Tenso, to be precise) its new form appears as the (what I label) 'Orignial Zangetsu'. Now, before you start harping on about ‘what about Rukia’s Zanpaktou?!’ Well, Zanpaktou are parts of a Shinigami’s soul. When it’s in its shikai state it can ‘heal’ from any damages after its been damaged (through will reishi and time). As Rukia’s powers returned, her Zanpaktou likely did as well. I mean, how else could you possibly explain it? Urahara didn’t pick up the broken pieces and send them back to SS now did he? In Huceo Mundo Rukia’s sword was broken by half and it healed. Ikkaku’s disjointed spear took major damage in his fight with Ichigo and it went back to normal etc. I’m still talking shikai here still not bankai, we all know that’s a whole other story. Actually, I doubt the broken sword Ichigo attempted to fight Urahara with was anything at all at that point. After all, Ichigo had awakened Zangetsu and the Old Man, he had his own Zanpaktou powers awake now, he didn’t need Rukia’s katana as a Asauchi anymore. Moving on- you’re probably going to say yeah, but it can’t be a Hollows power! It’s nothing like their Resurreccion! Isn’t it though? The Arrancar don’t have an Asauchi now do they? It’s their Hollow powers sealed, taking on the form of a Zanpaktou. With Zangetsu being both Ichigo’s Hollow AND his Zanpaktou wouldn’t it be the same thing (not to meantion first using Rukia's Zanpaktou as a template)? Unlike an actual Arrancars powers, the Hollow within Masaki that moved onto Ichigo had either fused, or became his Shinigami powers. Not to mention, Zangetsu has been calling himself Zangetsu from the start basically (hollow training anyone? 'I am Zangetsu'), we all just assumed he was lying (and [theory time] since he was being suppressed and forced away while being so intricately linked with Ichigo I’m sure he got confused with who was Zangetsu and who wasn’t. which is why we get all the confusion in the beginning). I digress, unlike the Arrancar, Ichigo isn’t a Hollow, however he does have strong as fuck Shinigami genes. Which means his sealed powers are that of a Shinigami, not anything else. BUT WHAT ABOUT BANKAI?! HOLLOWS CAN’T- Oh right, Ulquiorra Cifer had a Bankai form did he not. NOT TO MENTION ICHIGO’S RANDOM OUTFIT CHANGES. Who looks different upon release of their powers? Oh that right- the Hollows do. Case in point- it’s a Hollow Power, not a Quincy one. Jeeze you’d assume people would think things through. I mean these are the basics and it sounds so much more plausible than a Quincy Power. I could actually go on about it. Like, think it through.

Also, as to why Zangetsu didn't show up at the beginning- WELL, there IS that scene where he goes 'back to sleep' and reforms with the Old Man. Ichigo's Shinigami powers were awakened early, ie him still being human and alive. The ability to see ghosts likely came from the Quincy side- especially since the Old Man seems to have such a foothold over Ichigo's powers in the beginning. Its ALSO a human based ability, AND with Ichigo's resistance to getting hurt too badly from thugs and bullies in his human form- its likely his Qunicy Powers were already slightly awakened at that point. Which explains some more, the Old Mans monoply over Ichigo's powers.

Maa my thoughts are everywhere but I can't be bothered to make it all sound polished. Have fun with it (if you need anything cleared up i'll explain. If you try and tell me my theory is wrong and it really is a Quincy power... the fuck you smoking? because I don't want any of that nasty shit) it's already been stated that white's soul had a similar composition to an Asauchi resulting in it taking the place of one for Ichigo resulting the unique nature of Zangetsu, the fact that some here have such a hard time understanding this baffles me. also on the note of who has a random outfit change when activating their bankai, Rukia and Renji.