Forum:Ichigo Kurosaki

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What does this new mask of Ichigo's mean? It seems he has grown even stronger, but how did he get it? Was it another occasion like the second time he confronted his Hollow, where he needed to defeat him if he wanted more power? Discuss.Gold3263301 22:49, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

I think it may have something to do with his latest transformation. Also, I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed, but unlike the previous times he donned his mask, the sclera in his eyes remained white. Either way though, this does mean something's different besides just the mask design (which, IMO, is inferior to his previous mask in design). Arrancar109 06:35, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

It's pretty simple really: evolution Kaihedgie 06:49, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

if u haven't noticed his new mask is the same as his 2nd hollow form's mask,i think his speed is even than before, he was so fast that yammy can't see him (not sure if it due it his size). his Tensa Zangetsu seem to have goten stronger even with out the chargeing and flip tha big yammy up side down. but i think he might need to go back to his innner world and beat his hollow-self to master his new mask. sold it be that vizard's hollow forms are like Arrancar's Resurrecciónnew. and vizard getting a new masks are like the Arrancar getting a 2nd Resurrecciónnew. what do u think of my idea...?

i wrote the stuff on top and forgot to say it i wrote it....--Ace 08:29, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ichigo got an upgrade. we dont know what Ichigo is now capable of. he might get to use cero now we dont know. time will tell. Darkgoku 08:57, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Have you guys noticed that his Getsuga Tensho is smaller than when he used it in his originally hollow mask?? Maybe its more compressed just like his Bankai.

It seems that almost every time he uses his mask, it's different from what it was the last time he used it. For example (not saying that this has huge relevance or anything as it was in a filler) when Ichigo last used his mask in the anime, during the current arc, it was almost completely red on one half with a few bits of white left over. I think of his mask, not only as an augmentation of his power, but also somewhat a scale to which we can see his development. Nick4444 18:55, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the mask, but its got to be related to this last transformation, since its the same as when he changed while fighting Ulquiorra. As far as the Getsuga Tensho i've noticed it is often a different size. Minato88 19:23, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Its really not as simple as you might think because shirosaki (hollow ichigo) says that he is not a hollow that they are disgusting that honestly he doesnt know what he is so it leads me to believe that ichigo is not really a soul reaper either because if shirosaki is not a hollow then he and ichigo must be some other kind of being similar to the vizored so his new mask is most likely not some kind of evolution or whatever but maybe its like shirosaki said and the changing of the mask has to do with shirosaki slowly gaining more control. BleachTheLifeGiver 13:44, october 23, 2009 (UTC)

Well I remember that at least in anime right after Ichigo beat hichigo in his inner world hichigo told Ichigo not to die before he shows again if he really wants to master his power or something among those lines. If this line was in manga too then I am pretty sure that it's connected to Ichigos new mask. Ergroilnin 19:29, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

So we know now that vizards can have a resurrection, so who thinks that ichigo's new form was a result of this through some accident with his innerhollow taking control. I am thinking when ichigo leaves the garganta urahara is going to help him with it, although I don't know why he would be able to I feel that is how it will go down. or there may be a new black and white some time soon, maybe in the middle of a battle who knows. or perhaps ichigo is smart enough to try and enter his inner world and get the answers for himself. that would be nice.Shillagan 23:49, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

I think his new mask is going to be detrimental rather than useful. if you think about it although he was admittedly low on spiritual pressure his Getsuga Tenshou barely di any damage at all to Yammy whereas Zaraki diced him up like butter. I think this new mask him harm his powers and he will need to learn to bring back the other mask for it to be effective again. Nick D Wolfwood 14:39, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Although it does not completely explain why his mask has changed, I beleive he obtained in resurreccion when he was fighting Ulquiorra 2nd resurreccion, (because thats when the markings on the mask first showed up). So maybe thats the effect reaching resurreccion has on a vizard's mask.BleachNerd Dec.16th 9:50 pm GMT 8:00(pacific Time Zone)

Ichigo's New Hollowfication
Now I know there's been a lot of discussion on this topic already, but I still feel like things have not been properly addressed in concerns to Kurosaki's changed appearance in both his mask and Hollow form. I wouldn't go to say that it is a new release or second form, due to the fact that he used THAT mask again when he was fighting Yammy Riyalgo. Now, we all know how Ichigo is; ignorant. He is a good fighter with a good heart who's determined to do what it takes to win but he never figures things out himself. Everything is spelled out for him. Having said that, it is safe to say that Ichigo is not the type of fighter who could figure out how to use a new power or tactic without having Urahara, Yoruichi or Zangetsu teach him something in a "controlled" environment. That, or mimicking his inner Hallow altogether.

So let's throw out the idea of HIM obtaining a new power for now. So what's the theory, you might ask? I firmly believe due to the inability to control his new mask as long, the fact that he was DYING while fighting Ulquiorra (which is something that Hollow Ichigo has already made clear he has a problem with), and he even went as far as to attack Ishida that this was 100% Hallow Ichigo. The only reason I wanted to make that point is that I've seen countless posts of speculation over this topic, and although NOBODY knows besides Kubo, exactly what is going to happen next, I think that Kubo would appreciate more logical theories than Ichigo gained control over a new power. This is a poor statement because of the very fact that his mask shattered during his encounter with Riyalgo.

Let's look at it like this- We all know that every encounter Ichigo has with his inner Hallow ends with Hallow Ichigo making a comment as to how he better not become weak, or that "all this" would be his someday. We can also assume that he progresses at the same rate as Ichigo does. Also, we don't know how being in Hueco Mundo affects him. The question people need to be asking, is this: Has Ichigo's constant battling, fast increase in strength, and exposure to many high level Espada WHILE in Hueco Mundo, allowed his inner hallow to undergo some type of transformation?

If you look at it, his complete hallow transformation has gone from appearing like an Adjuchas to appearing more like Ulquiorra, being skinnier yet having more power.

It's the only reason I could think that Ichigo's appearance could change so quick, yet none of the Vizard's masks have changed since their original Hallowfication. That, and none of them have ever been to Hueco Mundo.

So let me know what you think, and please stay on Topic.

Hey, I'm new here, but I think the most obvious trigger for Ichigo's new transformation may have been looked over (unless I missed it, in which case, forgive me): Ulquiorra blasted a hole in Ichigo... right where a hollow's hole would most likely be. Obviously, the marking's on Ichigo's mask have changed a bit over time, which I believe was in relation to Ichigo gaining control over the mask. But when Ulquiorra blew such a conveniently placed hole in him with his Cero Oscuras, nonetheless, I think that in conjunction with Orihime's screams triggered his inner hollow's opportunity to emerge. Since we now know that a Vizard can achieve a Resurrección, via Tousen's most recent exploits, I believe Ichigo's newest transformation was the inner hollow starting to Resurrect. We know from Tousen that it creates a hollow hole, so I think it was just happenstance that Ulquiorra happened to do it for Ichigo. Since we know that when Ichigo is near death and in trouble, his inner hollow has come out before, and Ichigo was most definitely dying from that chest wound, I think his inner hollow may have gained full control and kept it, for some reason, because of the hole. Obviously, his inner hollow wouldn't care about Ishida. Also, Ichigo, in his new form, called Zangetsu to him. We've seen evidence that Zangetsu and the inner Ichigo (hollow or not) are intrinsically connected; therefore, easily can be seen as inner Ichigo being in control. K, done blathering. Thoughts? --Liamxblazeneyes 10:24, December 19, 2009 (UTC)