Talk:Sōsuke Aizen

He still has Kyōka Suigetsu
We see it, Aizen's Zanpakutō has reappeared, fused to his hand once again. So it's no longer a "Former Powers and Abilities" section, right? Yatanogarasu (talk) 21:06, July 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * Few points against this. 1. Where did Aizen get a zanpakuto within a minute of getting out of the chair 2. Assuming he got one how did he imprint on it within a minute. The most glaring reasoning here is that the majority of the chapter is nothing more then an illusion. He doesnt seem to retain a zanpakuto but a modified version of his previous illusion power. Yhwach didnt fight renji or ichigo the entire fight it was Aizen. Thus yhwach didnt get attacked by ichigo until the last page. There is virtually no proof that kyoka suigetsu is even real. Aizen has apparently internalized his power though its not on the same as level that his zanpakuto had. Finally confirming the line that he doesnt need it anymore.--


 * Well, Yhwach did call it Kyōka Suigetsu, and Zanpakutō (Shikai, at least) does regenerate from damage, so even when completely destroyed, it had an entire year and half to regenerate. Yatanogarasu (talk) 00:21, July 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thats if it breaks not if it disintegrates out of existence. More importantly given the situation and whats happening im not sure its appearance matters. Also Yhwach called alot of people by name him knowing something name means little in this scenario he didnt even know he was being affected by the illusions.--


 * So is it to say he now possesses the ability to use Kanzen Saimin without Kyōka Suigetsu? Yatanogarasu (talk) 23:09, July 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * I dont believe that it works the same way. Just simply a form of illusion over his actual form. He doesnt seem to be able to control what is seen nor does he seem to know what the opponent sees.--


 * Sorry, but that makes very little sense. Yhwach confirms the blade itself as Kyoka Suigetsu. That's irrefutable, one. Two, Aizen, after fusing with the Hogyoku only speculates that his sword was no longer needed. Yet years later the sword spawns again attached to his arm. No coincidence then that Aizen starts stirring up illusions again. It's not some lesser form of his old ability, it's the very same one we've been seeing all series. It's speculative for you to say otherwise. --Koto Talk Page-My Contributions 18:05, July 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * At different points in the chapter, Yhwach also believes he is fighting both Renji and Ichigo, and specifically thinks he's breaking Tensa Zangetsu yet again (that being one of his recurring goals for an unexplained reason). Yet, we know that those are also illusions brought on by Aizen, and Tensa Zangetsu shattering means showing an illusion of a cracked Kyōka Suigetsu is not out of the question. The fact remains that over 250 chapters ago, Aizen outright said that the Hōgyoku had decided he no longer needed his Zanpakutō, as was evidenced by it crumbling away in his hands. The burden of proof is on you as to how, exactly, he regained his Zanpakutō and its power after apparently losing it forever.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:57, July 24, 2016 (UTC)