Talk:Kensei Muguruma

Kensai's zanpakuto name
Um... the name of his Zanpakuto,is kinda of confusing me.

gohanRULEZ 05:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Release command/s
I've been looking into the manga as well as in the the anime and I've read and heard three different release commands, when he used in the anime it was Blow it away in the Turn back the pendulum mini series it was Send em flying and in the manga version it was Blow Tachikaze so does anyone have a definitive answer?--SalmanH 16:09, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Well I looked up the translation from the japanese characters presented and if it was either Blow it away or send em flying the amount of characters presented are much longer then what is up. Im really not sure tell you the truth i'd have to get the original japanese characters from the manga to determine if it was correctly translated in the first place. Salubri 16:30, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

The name translates as "Earth Severing wind." But,I've been studying Japanese for a while now,and Earth in Japanese is Tsuchi,can some one help me with this?

gohanRULEZ 16:43, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

He wasn't really talking about the zanpakuto name but the release command Salubri 16:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh,Well I remember him using "Blow it away" in the anime(I haven't read the manga part.)But I still need help on his Zanpakuto's name or I will lose sleep over it.

gohanRULEZ 17:05, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I haven't studied the slightest bit of Japanese, but I've learned a few things watching anime and reading manga, and one of the most important is that kanjis can have a zillion different sounds. For example, the kanji for six (六) that is usually read as "roku", is also the first kanji for Muguruma. Another example is the kanji for white (白) which is included in all three dances of Sode no Shirayuki (Tsukishiro, Hakuren and Shirafune) and is also the first kanji in "Byakuya". I investigated the Kanji for earth/ground (地), and I found it can be read as "Chi", "Ji" or "Tsuchi". If you check Tachikaze's kanjis (断地風) that's the second kanji. It's safe to assume that it is read as "chi" in this case, as the third kanji (風) is the one for wind (kaze). I hope I helped. Lia Schiffer 09:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

It did.Thanks.

gohanRULEZ 15:26, 19 May 2009 (UTC) Well thanks for the help Salubri and GohanRULEZ if either one of you can get something on this it'll be really appreciated and I supposed I'd owe you, for what it's worth.--SalmanH 17:26, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I was wrong he said "Blow them away" In the manga,not the anime.I the anime it was "Send em flying."

Yeah this is part of what I mean there are different Release commands two in the anime and one in the manga.--SalmanH 06:51, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

kensei zanpakuto appearance
i don't understand why his weapon is described as a short katana, well technically all shinigami and arrancar should have katanas for a zanpakuto, if there is even such a thing. i'm well aware of what a tanto is and if you look at the reference pointed out and his weapon... well, you be the judge. visually i can't say if it's less than 60-73 cm... taking out the technical bs, its really really short. oh well, foregoing an edit war, that's just my five cents taichos.--Hollow ichigo 07:59, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Vizard mask
I noticed that under his vizard section of his page a picture of him just with his mask hasn't been put up, only one in his hollow form. I think there should be a picture of him with the mask as not to get the two confused. I would do it myself but i dont know how.One eyed king 19:30, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Appearance
Is it just me, or was he really more muscular during his Shinigami days than now as Vizard? And also, i think that "He bears a small resemblance to Jin Kariya of the Bounts." should be deleted, as he dont resemble Kariya at all (except for hair color). --Taan 20:13, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I also think the Jin Kariya part should be deleted as the only thing they share in common is hair color.One eyed king 22:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Shikai
I dont know if im the only one who noticed this but it appears that Tachikaze is now in a constant Shikai release. Seeing as how the only time we have seen it released was in Turn Back The Pendulum. I think this is supported by the fact that ever since introduced he has only released it once (Turn Back The Pendulum) While all the other times it seems to be released. So I was wondering if I should make note of that on his page. Or if someone else wants to.One eyed king 00:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I highly doubt that it's release is constant, I wish I could provide proof from the current chapters but unfortunately it isn't drawn in any frame before chapter 366. However, going back to when Ichigo was restrained by the rest of the vizard (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/216/16-17/), you'll see that at this time it isn't in Shikai. As a constantly released zanpakuto isn't a conscious decision and is instead due to the vast spiritual pressure released by the user, unless something has drastically increased Kensei's within this time gap, it was most likely done simply to save frames that where better used for displaying the vizards powers. Blackstar1 02:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh i forgot about that chapter, thanksOne eyed king 02:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

in the anime when he goes in to subdue Hollow Ichigo he takes Tachikase out of a pocket in his cargo pants, that would suggest that even if it is not constant release like Zangetsu he conciously keeps it in Shikai for convienience.Nick D Wolfwood 12:56, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Ka-Bar
his Zanpakutō is a Ka bar modified into a Ka bar fighter pretty popular compaired to its ka-Bar tanto


 * Next time sign your post Derekproxy; Other than that you're absolutely right! good eye.Renji Abarai 01:34, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

upps I want to buy a tanto mod but its more costly then the fighterDerekproxy 01:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

combat surviaval knife is everyone here so obsessed with Bleach that they fail to see a Ka-Bar combat survival knife seriously i feel crazy for changing it to what it is seriously its a Ka-bar I trained with the USMC and the drill instructor wore clothing similar to him in a way they're alot a like looks wise but seriously people get whiny over the type of clothing and japanese swords that they don't know what one of the worlds most popular military/survival knives on the market 300 militaries use the Ka-bar its not uncommon even Japan issues its JSDF soldier the Ka-Bar call it what it is please!?Derekproxy 02:04, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Tachikaze and Suzumushi
I don't know if somebody noticed it before, but Tachikaze and Suzumushi share a thing: Both zampakutohs have a ring in the hilt. And both were the zampakutohs of Captains of the Ninth Division. I think that, that can be added in the Trivia. Rambard 21:08, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I suppose the question now becomes "How is that relevant?" First, Tachikaze's ring is only evident in its Shikai form while Suzumushi's ring is present in its sealed form. While we don't know how if the ring on Tachikaze does anything or is just ornamental, we know that the ring on Suzumushi is used for Tosen's Bankai and possibly one of his Shikai moves.

With dozens of Shinigamis, you are going to have similarities between Zanpakutos. However, unless there is a glaring similarity, it's probably not relevant. --Shinitenshi 02:14, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Hakudo Expert, or Master?
Personally, I believe his skills in hand-to-hand fighting warrant a change in the article to Master status. From what we know, he uses it as his preferred style (as do all other masters) and last time I checked Mashiro was given it, and Kensai is, if anything, even better than she is, as well as a more powerful warrior. Does anyone agree with me, or should it stay the way it is? TomServo101 22:46, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, I think you are sure, that change will be nice. Rambard 18:12, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree as well. He's a captain class who fights almost entirely with his hands, that spells master to me. ZeroSD 01:43, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Junk Trivia
Look, the fact that Kensei has shown is bankai along with Ichigo is a transitory fact. If Bleach ends with only those two having showed their bankais then it is an interesting trivia. But as things stand, all vizards capable of bankai are expected to eventually show it. So, please stop adding that particular junk trivia. Tinni 16:01, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Currently, Kensei is the only vizard (excluding Ichigo Kurosaki) who has shown his bankai.

This Trivia is junk. DO NOT ADD IT!!! Minato88 00:07, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Similarities?
I was just wondering if it should be mentioned that Kensei's bankai looks similar to Gantenbainne Mosqueda's Resurreccion. Both cover the users shoulders, arms and have weapons on both hands. Sam B 08:42, February 6, 2010 (UTC)WhiteArmor

No, that would fall under the category of junk trivia. Tinni  (Talk)  09:20, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hm...
Caught in the new intro that the segmented band that makes up Kensei's bankai is apparently the same purplish color as his A-shirt. Should that be mentioned in his bankai section or not? --Reikson 05:17, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * No. No information from the opening is to be added. We will wait until the relevant episode airs. Yyp  (Talk) 09:30, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * 'kay. --Reikson 11:27, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how to do it, but someone could change the manga image to the new intro's image of kensei's bankaiNoyas 23:38, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Pictures from the intro are not going to be used as per the image policy. We'll wait til the actual episode is released. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  23:45, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Profile pic change
Since episode 278 had such great Vizard mug-shots, I think it's about time we went through and changed vizards profiles, most of whom are quite terrible and violates are image policies. Kensei's current profile violates our policy by not facing the came, being side on etc, etc. As such, this profile change is high priority. Tinni  (Talk)  17:40, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

At best, I think this (and some of the others) would only be a good temporary pic until a better one is available. The next couple of episodes will have many of the Vizards displayed, so we may get better options. Seriously, we need something without those shaded borders, as it makes the image look strange for any profile image. If there's nothing better available in the future, then we can probably stick with these permanently. Arrancar109 (Talk)  20:38, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't really think that's a big deal. Because in most cases, the shaded borders can be cut out. I think for now, I'll change the worst of the offending profile images: Kensai, Rose, Love and Mashiro. Hachi, Shinji and Hiyori can wait and I Lisa didn't get a good shot in episode 278 anyway. O and yes, I'll cut out the shading. ^.^ Tinni   (Talk)  02:12, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

There! Trimmed it doesn't look too bad. Although Love, Rose and Mashiro came out the best with zero sign of the shading. Tinni  (Talk)  02:37, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Im questioning all these images. As Arrancar109 pointed out they seem temp placeholders to later pics in the up coming weeks. The biggest issue is that i feel like i have to watch every upload made cause of the image gallery. Not only to categorize the images and gifs but to determine what has no purpose and should just be deleted. Any uploads not of official use make the job more impossible then it already seems as this is all new.--Salubri (Talk)  02:56, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * I fail to see what you are getting at. The Vizard profile pictures were atrocious and now they are not. The images I uploaded are not not without purpose and are for official use as profile images. There is zero evidence that we are going to get any suitable images in upcoming weeks given that the Vizards will engage in battle pretty much starting next week. Indeed, aside from the first five or so minutes of next weeks episode, the Vizards will spend most of the time with masks on next week and after that it'll be questionable if we can get profile images without facial wounds. In addition, while the trim on Kensai's image did leave some black shading, I would like to know what fault there is now with Love, Rose or Mashiro's profile pics considering Arrancar109's only objection was the shaded borders and those could be cut cleanly away for most of these images. There is no issue here. Tinni   (Talk)  03:19, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

You've made your point im making mine. Doing the image gallery is a large job and i question if these pics taking from a single shot are good enough in general compared to single featured ones. If better ones present themselves it will be a pointless issue. The overall issue is the image project as we have discussed from now on any upload is gonna be questioned under the new guidelines for images soon to be set up. There is zero evidence that we will keep them, which should be kept in mind as the anime tends to flesh things out we may have better opportunities, which will be taken into consideration if presented. For the purpose of being plain im not so much concerned about the Vizard pics but pictures on this site in general. There are a whole number of the same picture uploaded just cluttering up the database and totally unused and then they become lost images for the next month or couple of years. I have found plenty in the last couple of days. Hence if they aren't deleted they need to be addressed to someone so they can be instead of just lingering in limbo. Salubri (Talk)  03:37, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you are making a general point, then surely it's time to move this discussion to the forums. In addition, I would like to point out that the images uploaded for profile image discussions have always been better managed then other pictures as once a decision is made, it is easy to go through and delete rejected images. So seriously, stop hijaking this thread already! If you have no objection to Kensei's image other then "something better might come-up", well let's resume this discussion when something better comes up. Tinni   (Talk)  04:03, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'm really not into this pic and while I get Tinni's point in that the Vizards are getting into battle pretty soon next episode, this picture is not an improvement compared to the previous one IMO. It's way off in angle, the previous at least had some sense of facing forward, it was just his eyes facing to the ground. Even if the shading was cropped in this new pic, it's still very noticeable and definitely not good. I'm just not into it. I'd again say we wait 'til next week before doing changes because I really don't feel they're all that necessary. That's my opinion though. -- Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  05:16, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see this picture as being better than the old one at all. Love & Rose's are definitely an improvement and Masihro's is alright. But I cannot agree with this one as Kensei's profile pic. Black shading like that should not be on a profile picture and it is very distracting. It is a bad picture and should not be used imo. I really hope there are better ones in the future, or during the Vizard training of Ichigo, as neither of those pictures are good enough. Yyp (Talk) 10:18, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... since everybody but me seem to not like the 278 pic. I have restored the old pic and that'll remain until and unless we find something better. The preview of 279 points to at least one or two shots of Kensei from the next episode. So here's hoping they'll be good enough. Tinni  (Talk)  10:40, July 7, 2010 (UTC)