Bleach Wiki talk:Administrators

Bleach Movie 4
I was wondering, since we are likely to see an influx of edits about it, how are we going to deal with the new movie. Would any plot info from it be treated as a spoiler? If so, a new section for it should be made on the spoiler page. And how would we treat it considering the timescale involved here (a year until its release and likely another 9 months until a sub becomes available) - do we not allow plot details to be added until it is released in English, or would we allow details to be posted once it is released in Japan? 12:57, December 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * I was thinking that since we created a page about Heat the Soul 7 and protected it until it is released so that nobody other than the admins could edit it, should we consider doing the same with the new Bleach movie, as it will likely be the source of a lot of edits. This way we would be able to better keep control over it. 20:36, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Petition to re-open discussions forum
Tinni has suggested the following:


 * Hey, I was just thinking about closed discussions and how we don't actually have a mechanism by which to re-open it. All we really have is the ability to start new discussions on the same topic. It occurred to me that perhaps we should have some mechanism in place for people at least make a case for why a discussion should be re-opened. So I was wondering what you thought about starting forum thread in the "Improvements" forum where people can place petitions to re-open discussions. Doesn't mean we will re-open, but it does give people a place to lodge their case. Plus since it's the forums, it's out of the way etc, etc. Of course, we might want to take some topics off limits like the old and tired "Vizard" discussion. Or Viz translation vs fan translation discussion and other things like that. So what do you think? Tinni   (Talk)  12:59, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Seems reasonable to me. 11:06, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yea I was thinking about this. A page where people can give their petitions to re-open discussions. They can then be evaluated by the committee and if a majority ruling is given by the committee on the accurate and consistent argument given for the reopening it can move on to the admin and again its the majority rule to determine whether its to be opened. Thats my general thoughts et me know what you think. I would agree with Tinni on the no longer bringing up the Vizard, Viz translation vs. Fan Translation, Tosens race, or character status. Other then these specifics im ok with the idea. Salubri (Talk)  12:28, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Scaling down and alot of work
Ok so now with some of the articles done with great work but with the fights articles we can start to scale them down some. The fights provide in-depth detail of the information regarding the fights, events and battles. In an effort to address the space we can summarize the articles a bit so to stop redundancy.

we can also start linking the specific character battles to their specific pages. Also on that note i notice the gallery pages link to the character articles but not the other way around. we should address that.

There are some articles in need of alot of help. Rukia, Renji's history and plot which is uncalled for being such important characters as well as Yumichika. Reiatsu and Reiyoku need some severe references.

What are your thoughts on this? Salubri (Talk)  15:25, July 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * When we link a character article to a fight/event page, how should we do it? Is "Nel is the only one who catches up to Ichigo, arriving just in time to see Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio, a Privaron Espada. As Ichigo and Dordonii fight, the difference in power between the two quickly becomes apparent" alright or has anyone got a better idea? About image galleries: where would be the best place to link to the gallery? The infobox? 22:01, July 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well we could do it like that or we could just summarize the articles and list the fights at the bottom of the article. The gallery would probably best link in the infobox. Salubri (Talk)  23:33, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Masked Character Book & Changes Needed
A raw has been released and there are a lot of name changes, full names & new characters. To keep the chaos that all this will cause to a minimum, I think we need to get organized quickly. A project to oversee the name changes and creation of the new pages etc, finding all the bits that need to be changes etc. I am protecting several names so that articles cannot be created about them until we are ready (same for page moves). I will set up something. Still going through the raw.

The interview covers espada, arrancar & other character origins (seems we now have proof for certain arrancar being named after designers/architects, but only for some), other random stuff. For part of it, see here. 15:05, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

New Site Design
With the New change in the look of the main wiki I have been thinking. We should think about a new redesign to the sight to make it more in line with the serious aspects of Bleach. I was thinking along the lines of black highlighted by Blue, Red and White. Streamlined sections on the main page. Template colors more in line with the motif. A much better up to date logo in the left corner possibly a wallpaper of Ichigo overlooking Soul Society or something at the top background. Also I like the personal info fill in for user pages as well as the use of boards on the Bleach Answer Site, maybe there is a way to incorporate that. It seems we maybe running on the general old code of when Wiki's first started, as this site began in 2007 is considerably old in the computer standards. I think an update with all the trimmings to go with is exactly whats needed. What are your thoughts on this?--Salubri (Talk)  17:50, August 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm in favour of a new, more Bleach-like theme and improved logo, though I think it would need to be voted on by the community. I'm not great at visualizing things like that, so I'd need to see a mock-up of it to say whether its good or not (a lot of templates would need to be recoloured though). Logo Creation Wiki make skins and logos for wikis. Don't know about the boards, but something like the personal info thing can be done here too using MediaWiki:Welcome-user-page. It would only appear for new users though. As for wikia's new skin, it seems that we don't have a choice in the matter - the staff have said that Monaco will only be enabled for a limited time after the new skin goes live. That could mess up a lot of things for every wiki there is as it will be different coding, but since it hasn't even started beta testing yet, some of the bigger changes may be scaled back by then. Well, that's something we can look forward to dealing with in the future. I applied to be a beta-tester, so I'll report back on what its like if I'm one of those selected. 13:55, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Zangetsu Article Request
Relating to this discussion, I received the following request:
 * Following the discussion on Ichigo's talk page, it seems to have been generally agreed upon that Zangetsu's information should be expanded with the manga content. In addition however, Tinni and Godisme have suggested that Zangetsu and Hollow Ichigo's article be combined, since they are essentially the same being, albeit split into two parts. Tinni suggested that the page be named The Seat of Ichigo's Power, since as she said, that is how they described themselves in the manga. I'm relatively indifferent towards combining them, but I believe it could work with proper organization. However, seeing as this involves a major change of articles, particularly those involving a high-profile article like Ichigo's, Tinni recommended that this be put up for vote on the admin page. So essentially a vote between keeping the articles separate or combining them; I'd appreciate it if you brought this up with them. If you don't mind, I would also like to hear your opinions on this matter. Mohrpheus (talk) 03:45, September 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * See also: User blog:Tinni/Mock Zangetsu page

So do we want to expand Zangetsu (spirit) or create the new article or continue as before? I feel that combining the Zangetsu and Hollow Ichigo (while a nice idea as they are parts of the same being) is not really all that practical. I am not against expanding the Zangetsu (spirit) page to manga cannon info. It is far more workable than the combined article, imo. 22:47, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

You know, I've been against integrating canon information with the articles, but I won't fight it any longer. I'd rather expand on Zangetsu's current article than merge it with Hollow Ichigo's. I know they're one and the same, but for some reason, I feel that putting it in Hollow Ichigo's page can complicate it a bit. If we expand Zangetsu's, then we have to do so on Hyorinmaru's and Zabimaru's as well. Admittingly, no, they would not be as lengthy as Zangetsu's but I feel we should apply the same treatment. But, unlike Zangetsu, they don't have the same appearances in the Zanpakuto Unknown Tales arc, so we'd have to find different shots of Baboon/Snake Zabimaru and Ice Dragon Hyorinmaru, which I have absolutely no problem with whatsoever. In relation to this, expanding on Zangetsu's article wouldn't be a bad idea, and we can expand a bit more on Zabimaru and Hyorinmaru's articles as well. Hyorinmaru would receive a "History" section, Zabimaru would have the Soul Society arc in his "Plot" section, and they'd both get an "Appearances in Other Media" section (as they both appeared on the Bleach movies). Zabimaru's article would be a bit more complicated to work out, but we can think of something.

Anyway, getting back to Zangetsu, his "Personality" section could be expanded greatly, as well as his own individual roles in the "Plot" section and, in addition to the powers we have listed, we can also add onto the Powers section with what was seen in the latest arc in the manga. So, I actually see some benefits in this.

In short, I am against merging Hollow Ichigo and Zangetsu together, but I support merging Zangetsu's manga information with the current Spirit article, provided that we do the same with Zabimaru and Hyorinmaru. Arrancar109 (Talk)  23:54, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I can agree upon this course of expanding the zangetsu (spirit) page with info and creating the same with zabimaru and hyorinmaru. --Salubri (Talk)  00:02, September 20, 2010 (UTC)