Forum:Could Hiyori be the first good guy to die

I been thinking, Hiyori has a really good chance of dying, as long as (um.... I foget how to spell her name) doesn't heal her. If she does die it would be a great way to shut up those people that complain that no one good ever dies in bleach. So what do you guys think is going to happen to her?Icedeath 03:15, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Good question. I really don't know. In Hueco Mundo, Menoly was killed by Grimmjow. I mean her upper body was blown off just like what happened to Luppi, yet Orihime brought her back to life. Also, many believe that Ichigo didn't just lose consciousness, but actually died during his first confrontation with Ulquiorra & again Orihime completely restored him. So as long as some part of Hiyori remains & possibly hasn't been dead for too long, Orihime should be able to bring her back. Minato88 03:23, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

ya thats what i am kinda thinking, so long as Orihime is alive we wont seeing be seeing any good guys die, i hope she heals the 1st and 4th espadasIcedeath 03:28, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

I doubt it. Mainly cause if he wanted to actually kill her she would have been dead. Kubo so far when it comes to death gets right to the point and kills the character. More or less this was a way of making a cliff hanger and making the issue urgent. This way he can push the importance of Ichigo, the captains and friends getting back so this thing with Aizen can be over. What I would have to say to those who complain that a good guy never dies in bleach is, if you dont like it read/watch something else. There's plenty of manga/anime with just that in it. I dont see a point why those people want to make bleach into naruto or dbz. Also you just said good guys while i liked starrks character he was on the wrong side and still chose to fight there is no coming back for them theyre enemies no matter how much you liked Ulquiorra he doesn't deserve to come back he almost killed ichigo he was an enemy and would continue to be. Nel is the only good one.Salubri 03:39, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not too keen on the idea of Bleach continuing without Aizen. I just think that if Aizen dies and we get the next "big bad villain" Bleach would become a little too much like DBZ, which got a little silly with it's ever escalating villains. I much prefer a more Inuyasha kind of set up where it's just the one villain from the start (although we don't find out about Naraku till some way into the manga) to the end. But then again Aizen did only get revealed as THE villain starting in chapter 169 when he stabs Hinamori. During the agent of the soul society arc it was more a monster of the week sort of deal, then it was Ichigo vs Gotei 13 although you knew the Gotei 13 weren't bad, just that they held a different view point to Ichigo. But it's been Aizen for the last 200+ chapters and looking back on it, it was always Aizen - at least based on how Kubo had Aizen reveal his hand and/or influence in all events since the beginning. I mean, no Aizen going after the Hōgyoku, no "it's hidden in Rukia" and so no reason for Urahara to put her in that gigai that was actually stopping her from regaining her power. She would have probably regained her power within a few days, maximum weeks. Ichigo would have lost his power and she would have just returned to Soul Society and end of Bleach. In fact, no Aizen = no Urahara Kisuke in the living word running a corner store! So I am not sure how I would take having Bleach continue past Aizen's defeat. I don't think it would really feel like Bleach to me any more. But I am with you on the Hiyori question. I highly doubt Hiyori is about to die Tinni 11:41, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

i see your piont, and i have nothing against good guys not dying, btw, after this whole azien thing finally done and over with, do you know if TK is still going to continue bleach and do more development on least developed characters and have a new main villian or something?Icedeath 03:47, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

I personally cant stand Aizen and I hope they all impale him with their zanpakuto and rip him apart, he is so annoying. But I hear that after the arc he is going to do a mini-arc and then another arc detailing Isshin Kurosaki's past. He is most likely looking at something that will push the story a year later or something like that and further advance a more responsible storyline rather then the entire destruction of reality, which is what they would get from Aizen getting what he wants.Salubri 03:54, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

ok good, thats good they are going to do something on ichigo dad, i can't wait till azien dies, at first i thought he was smart and knows what he was doing and differnt then most villians, but know i think hes gotten to cocky for is own good and thats going to be the death of him and hes just like your typcal villian.Icedeath 03:58, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Stark and Harribel have a good chance of being revived by Orihime but Ulquiorra isn't so fortunate there. Kaihedgie 04:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Ulquiorra turned into dust after he died. Granted, we saw Hachi bring back Tsubaki back to life and say that Orihime could do the same. However, I really don't see her doing that to Ulquiorra.

Nick4444 04:19, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

o well, though we'll see whats happens in the up coming chapters.Icedeath 04:36, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Hiyori could very well be the first good guy to die since Kaien Shiba and Masaki Kurosaki, but because of Kaien and Masaki, she can't be the first one. Akeki 10:55, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

It will be interesting to see if the writer really does go through with a death for a popular good guy character. I'll be sad to see Hiyori go but her death wouldn't be inappropriate.

I doubt thats going to happen but its always possible. Bleach is mostly for young teenagers so I can see Tito Kubo keeping all the good guys alive. Great Cthulhu 14:47, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

I have a question. Why would Orihime heal the villains? Okay, since Hallibel was cut down by Aizen there is a SLIM chance the Shinigami & Vizards might do something to help her, but Starrks out of the question(with that said Starrk is one of my favorite characters). Kyoraku brutally cut him down & eventhough he didn't look happy he didn't look very broken up about it either. Lastly, hey Salubri do u know what the Mini-Arc before Isshins arc will be about? Minato88 19:04, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

It would be out-of-character for Orihime to NOT heal those who needed it regardless of their loyalties. Her kindness is an essential part of her character. She even healed those two arrancar who spent their time bullying and beating her when no one was looking without asking. Orihime isn't going to hesitate for Starrk, Harribel, or even Aizen if it came down to it. Everybody gets healed equally by Orihime. Great Cthulhu 21:53, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

I seriously doubt Orihime will heal Aizen when he's injured, just like when Orhime wouldn't heal Ichigo because she thought Grimmjow would just end up hurting him again. So as long as the person won't cause any harm or suffering to her loved ones, she'll heal them. Asesiel

For me.. i think that Hiyori is not going to die. I think that this was all an illusion made by Aizen.. just to fool the heck out of the vizards and shinji. Nubz

Nubz, you should take note, Shinji is one of the very few people who can see through Aizen's illusions... it's highly likely he wasn't fooled and did in fact see Hiyori getting bifurcated. Gold3263301 05:52, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

While I think that Hiyori certainly has been bifurcated, Shinji was fooled by several of Aizens illusions in the Turn back the Pendulum gaiden, especially the one of the random soul reaper pretending to be Aizen for a month. So he's far from perfect. BollyW 05:58, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

I really doubt it's an illusion, theres no reason to cast one when Ichimaru can just really do it.