Talk:Sajin Komamura

Shikai Command V.2
Sajin specifically says in English anime and video games: Roar, Tenken. I don't know if the same goes for the sub version, but it should be noted.--Kylecharmed 22:50, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Please provide an episode reference for the dub so we can check. Tinni   (Talk)  21:38, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Command is confirmed by "Masked" databook. It's "Todoroke" --Layol (talk) 23:08, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Gif
I made a new gif for Komamura's shikai from the the last episode (289) that I think is better then the old gif and should be used instead of the old gif. Tinni  (Talk)  12:21, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

The fire gives a bit of a false impression (you know how the anime loves to make the simplest things overly dramatic), but it does make things a whole lot more clear than the current gif. I say go for it. Mohrpheus (talk) 12:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I say we should list it as well. --Salubri (Talk)  14:21, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Past Appearance and flashback
Should we put up a pictures of how Komamura looked in the past, his first meeting with Tousen, add the discriptions in the article somewhere?

Also should we add the part about the padding in the anime? (Where he recieves more injuries from Tenken's weaknness by Tousen).

One sign your posts. Two no not necessary at all he wore simple clothing and noting stood out as irregular besides a face covering. Unless he is wearing normal clothing from that of his Shinigami self not unlike the visored then no. Also why would we add more about an attack that was pointless filler for the anime. There was nothing additional worth mentioning besides a couple more attacks from tosen and a few more attacks from him. Not noteworthy as the point was quickly reached in the manga instead of just prolonging. --Salubri (Talk)  19:48, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Piece of trivia
According to Sajin's height and weight, he's technically obese with a Body Mass Index of 36.3. BubbaYoshi (talk) 05:36, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

That would be junk trivia.--

Also, Sajin is not a human so the regular standards of BMI do not apply.Bleachshinigami (talk) 17:03, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

"Phantom body parts"
The few times Komamura has used Shikai (which I count is two/three), he has only conjured the arm of his Giant, once to punch an opponent, and once to slice them with a sword. So, shouldn't it be mentioned that the only body parts he has conjured is an arm? Ruffy 09:52, April 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * No we have no proof thats all he can bring forth. Considering the instances when he did so it may have been practical not to use anything else. To suggest otherwise would be incorrect cause it would be based on from what we know or have seen. But thats like assuming something for a fact when we don't have the information to make that leap. In other words its limiting the scope of the ability without proof.--Salubri (Talk)  15:49, April 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just to play devil's advocate here, wouldn't it violate the speculation policy to say he can conjure anything other than arms? Similar to what you said, nothing we have seen suggests that he can. To be definitive, I suppose I could ask the Translation corner to go over the page from MASKED, which may or may not specify what Tenken's special ability. But for the time being, it should just be left as is. Mohrpheus   (Talk)  16:14, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Deseased Or Still Kicking?
According to the end of the article, it states Komamura was defeated by Aizen at the end of the Fake Town Karakura Town. Since it is the last story arc in the cannon for this character, and the end was rather grim, it is rather unclear as to if he survived or not. Since the other two arcs are anime only, does this mean he survived in the anime? What about the manga? At this point the wiki is unclear.BANKAI! (talk) 02:48, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Please sign your posts. As for your question. He is alive.--

As the article only stated he was defeated, being defeated is different from being killed, the anime directly follows the manga (other then on curtain censored parts or when they were just starting up). He is Alive Desruprot (talk) 18:32, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, got it. So he still is alive. Somehow the article does say "defeated", but the implication might lead on to say he died. Should it be cleared up? BANKAI! (talk) 02:48, May 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * No. This sites official stand on this (which is understood by those who regularly frequent the site and read the manga) is that defeat only means the fight was lost. Thats pretty clear. Killed or died would be used if that point was to conveyance character as dead.--Salubri (Talk)  02:54, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, gottcha. I am new to the Wiki, so I did not understand that. XD case closed. BANKAI! (talk) 02:57, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, gottcha. I am new to the Wiki, so I did not understand that. XD case closed. BANKAI! (talk) 02:57, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Species
Hes a Fox, not a wolf. Take note of the clay-brown and white fur. More importantly a white chest that runs from the stomach (most seen in the anime, though id wager it runs the length of his body) up to his muzzle, a key trait in fox'es. Furthermore, you will find no brown strains of wolves (pure for that matter), and will not likely (i say in 99% certainty) find any with solid fur color like those of foxes, let alone a split color pattern of a rare brown a solid white; Shades of brown maybe a Sepia, Seal brown, Russet, or even Choloate, but never a Fulvous or Tawny. As a rule of thumb, foxes are a solid two colors, wolves are usually a handful: 5-8 super mixed and jumbled together (natural camoflage). Google Image Search of Fox, clearly see the exact resemblence. Compare that too: Google Image Search of Wolf and you'll arrive at the same conclusion.--Bunniu.

This is not about what he appears to be by his looks, it's what canon states. The official Bootleg states that he is a wolf, we're not going to go around making assumptions on which animal he looks more alike to, since Kubo already said what he is. That's all. Lia Schiffer  (Talk)  07:28, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

As the reference for that sentence states, he is a wolf. This comes from an official source, so regardless of what he may look more like to anyone, he is a wolf. As for the colours, call it artistic license. (Bleach Official Bootleg, page 96). 10:15, May 7, 2011 (UTC)