Forum:Imaginative battles...who would win and why?

So I was looking through a few pages on here and came up with a few random battle ideas and wanted to know any thoughts about who would win and/or why?

My first would be...if they were to fight, even years and years ago when he was alive and presumably stronger than Hitsugaya, could Kaien Shibe ever beat Toshiro? My guess is no, because Toshiro's zanpaktou is based upon it's ability to manipulate water. He states something along the lines that as long as there is water in the air, ground, etc that he will never be powerless and Shiba's zanpaktou is a water type, giving the obvious advantage to Hitsugaya to me. Shiba would HAVE to overpower his reiatsu and have a few tricks up his sleeve to stand a chance. Thoughts?

Next...from what we've seen so far Renji and Ikkaku. Similar fighters, although Renji has a clear advantage with Zabimaru being able to attack from a distance, Ikkaku is stronger than Renji, and presumably a bit more talented swordsman (debatable). Again...my opinion, I'd give this to Renji, because he is willing to do whatever it takes to win, and Ikkaku has been shown to be "ok" with dying or losing...so in that respect, even Bankai to Bankai I'd give the advantage to Renji.

This whole time I've been trying to come up with a decent challenger that Kira wouldnt beat or wouldnt get smashed by, anyone have an idea who would be a good fight versus Kira? (only one I could come up with would be Hisagi, but if he gets hit by Wabisuke once, it's over as he would be much slower (if hit on his body), and presumably wouldnt be able to throw Kazeshini if it was struck more than once...I think Kira has the edge over all the Lts based on his shikai ability, but would be basically powerless against almost all the captains as they all have ranged attacks. We saw in the newest arc that his reiatsu was still not strong enough to stand up to Zaraki, but that could be an interesting fight if he could block enoguh attacks by Kenpachi he could theoretically disarm him. Actually I just came up with an idea. After she releases her shikai, what about a fight between Kira and Matsumoto? We've already seen the fight, but what if it was allowed to continue? I still have Kira, but it could be interesting. Although if he were to release his full power, Yumichika could provide a good fight for Kira, although I still think Kira could outwit Yumichika. We've seen that the tentacles of Ruriru Kujaku can be cut with a sword or bound by kido (which Kira is exceptionally well versed in), so while it is a great power if able to be used, I don't see Kira losing this battle either.

If allowed to continue, who would win between Byakuya and Kenpachi? My guess is Byakuya, even if Kenpachi releases his eyepatch. I think that kido is the answer...just use 6 rod prison (a technique he's used more than once) and Kenpachi presumably wouldnt be able to move for long enough for Byakuya to land a fatal blow. We know Byakuya won't be intimidated by Zaraki's reiatsu...so I don't think he'd win.

Best for last...(yeah I know it's getting long but I'm bored...)hand-to-hand specialists...Yoruichi vs Kensei...I honestly don't know who I would give the advantage to. They are both exceptionally gifted in the same area of combat, one is a speed demon, and the other is incredibly strong...so it would really come down to the bankai vs shunko debate...If I had to bet, I'd go with Yoruichi...no real reason yet, other than with Shunko, she still has a shikai, bankai (presumably), BUT Kensei has his hollow mask and powers to supplement...a Bankai+hollow Kensei might be fast enough to keep up with Yoruichi and if that's possible we've seen that she isnt as tough as we'd like and he could win (Without Shunko she attacked Yammy and took damage just beating the pulp out of him)

If you have any other battles you'd like to see or arguments with my assessments throw the ideas out there...I love to debate. Orionradar 06:15, November 12, 2009 (UTC)