Bleach Wiki talk:Administrators

Committee Nominations (Minato88)

 * 1)  Minato88 has put himself up for nomination to the Policy & Standards Committee. What I have found in regard to his qualifications are that he is commonly on the site, he gets along with others, always wiling to help with an issue or debate, he is keen on jumping into doing the projects on the wiki. He is vigilante when it comes to getting rid of speculation and vandalism and tries to adhere to the policies of the wiki. He would be a welcome addition to the committee. Salubri 21:18, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  I agree. Both from looking through his contributions list and from memory, his edits have been very good. One thing that sticks out in my memory is that he re-organized the character pages in accordance with the Layout Guide in the Manual of Style (trivia, quotes & relationship sections had been out of correct order) and has done some episode summaries in the past too. He would be a great member of the committee. --Yyp 23:19, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  Minato88 does make a good effort to conform to wiki policies and works hard to help others and be a benefit to the community. I think it'd be good to have his (her?) eye on the recent anime episode summaries created and I think s/he'd do a good job making new ones. Twocents 04:23, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  Minato88 seems pretty much on the level. He follows through on our policies well enough, and has helped with the articles immensely, adding content, references, and rearranging them in the right order. He also talks to other users when he feels they should know a few things they haven't read up on yet. He's got my vote. Arrancar109 05:30, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Uploading Images
I've noticed this for quite some time, and I was thinking: how long after someone uploads an image should we give them time to do something with it before deleting it? Or should we just continue to allow every image (barring pornographic ones) to stay on file? Some people upload images for their user pages (I assume) and they never get used, but a lot of recent additions have been poor quality images that have been added to an article (and subsequently removed), but the image file stays on hand. I noticed a while back that some users were reprimanding others for uploading duplicate files, but with how many images we have uploaded (especially ones with non-descriptive names), it's not surprising that similar or identical images get uploaded all the time. I figured it's probably our job to be deleting unused image files, so duplicates aren't constantly being added, and it'd be a good way to demonstrate to users that we won't tolerate poor images being constantly added. (By poor, I mean ones with low image quality, with subtitles, with mouse arrows in them, with black bars that should have been cropped out, etc. as well as ones that violate our rules, such as fan-colored images that are added to articles and the like.)

It's just been something I've been pondering for a while, and I wondered what you guys thought. Twocents 21:15, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

There is a large amount of unused pictures on the site. In the case of poor quality images that are removed from pages but left alone, I think we should list them for deletion when removing them from the pages and if nobody expresses support for them, delete them after a few days. I did add it to the manual of style that pictures should be given names descriptive of their content. Something I was thinking of adding to the user page policy was that users should mark for deletion any picture that they uploaded for their profile if they are no longer using it. Problem is that most of them won't remember to do this (or may never even notice that in the manual). --Yyp 15:57, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

That makes sense. It'll give people time to find alternate uses for the images - such as if they want to put them on their user page instead - and it'll cut down on unused, poor quality, and/or duplicate images. I think we can add that second part to the User Page Policy, and while we don't have much control over whether users actually remember to do that or not, it may help. Twocents 19:53, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I went through all the images uploaded in the month of November. (Well, not all of them. I generally assumed that we were capable of uploading useful images.) It's surprising how many duplicate files, unused images and images with useless file names were uploaded. I deleted all the duplicates (and one in clear violation of our rules) and marked all the unused ones for deletion. We can wait a few days to give people enough time to find a use for them or argue for why they should be kept. I didn't know what to do with the ones with poor file names, but I'm wondering if we should move them to ones that are more descriptive; that way, those that are considering uploading similar images will at least be able to search and see if it already exists. Twocents 03:19, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * I've moved a few of the poorly named ones to descriptive names. I didn't touch the ones that were already listed for deletion, as there is little point unless it is decided to keep any of them. --Yyp 14:42, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Added that bit about users marking old profile pictures for deletion to user page policy. --Yyp 18:42, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

User Pages
Salubri and I have recently noticed that some users have taken a liking to creating their own Shinigami-esque characters, which we both feel is more suited for the wikis that focus on fanon. However, we generally don't mind it, except in cases where it's clear that they merely come on to the wiki to work on this character. This is particularly apparent for User:Eliskuya2. We've noticed that he tends to make multiple, minor edits to his user page, possibly merely for the sake of increasing his edit count. He makes few edits to actual articles, most of which seem to be modifying quotes for no apparent reason.

We also think he might have a problem with following the rules. As my edits to his user page telling him to not maintain a hitlist inspired the responses of telling me that it was "bull poop," deleting my edits with the edit summary saying (word-for-word), "I dislike you..Twocents..I hope sooner or later they well put you in time out :P" and "*facepalm*" and then he went to Yyp and asked her to make me stop. I've also seen him calling the admins he likes with the honorific "-sama" and I've seen him tell other users to stop something or else he'd make his "best friend" admin block them or whatever. I just get the feeling that he thinks he's above the rules.

While we might be willing to overlook occasional work on a user page that's done in addition to help edits to articles, we think that his attitude, generally poor interactions with and treatment of other users, and his complete focus on editing his user page possibly warrant something being said or done. When I warned him about his violations of policies on his talk page, I linked him to the User Page Policy three times and Yyp linked him to it twice. There's no reason he should be unaware of the policies outlined on that page, which clearly say that editing of a user page should be limited as the focus on this wiki is on the factual information contained in the articles.

It's not fair to the other users (who I've noticed have commented on his excessive editing to his user page) if we disregard the actions of someone who's ignoring one of our policies. The question, then, is what, if anything, should we do? Twocents 06:05, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I don't really care what he has on his user page (so long as it's within the rules), and I would be alright with someone making a vast amount of edits to their user page, so long as they also made a fair amount of regular contributions to the main site. But I agree that this guy is making a disproportionate amount of edits to his own page compared to the main site. I have also noticed some poor treatment of others (although not recently - bar the comment to Twocents). imo something should be done, but I'm less certain about what exactly to do. I think he should be encouraged to contribute more regularly to the wiki while asking him to cut down on the editing of his user page. Maybe casually tell him about the bleach fanfic wiki where he can edit it as much as he wants. About his interactions with others, if he treats anyone poorly again in future, he should get a warning for it like anyone else would. --Yyp 15:57, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

That makes sense. Like a cheerful message asking him to redirect editing efforts into the actual articles on the site, directing him to the Manual of Style in case he's unsure on how to properly edit articles, and adding in that there are other wikis that support and encourage fanfiction-esque content, where we don't so much. I could go along with that, depending on what Arrancar109 and Salubri think. And I agree that while his poor interactions with other users have been generally ignored previously, we should be intolerant of rude comments being directed toward others, as we would with anyone else. Twocents 19:57, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I see that he has added the Bleach Fan Fiction Wiki to the "where you can find me at" section of his page this morning. --Yyp 14:48, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Support & Oppose Voting
Hey. I have moved the votes from the vote for Novembers featured article to the archive and have opened the vote for December's feature. Since Salubri added the Support/Oppose system to the voting policy a couple of weeks ago, I have changed the voting method on the three vote pages to reflect that. There has been a request for clarification on whether, under the new system, "1 vote per user" means only 1 vote regardless of whether you vote oppose/support, or are you allowed to cast 1 support vote and 1 oppose vote. --Yyp 15:51, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Actually thats a good question. Due to the change in the system I would say that a user should be allowed to support one and oppose another as thats technically what they are doing regardless though i think it should be highly stressed that when making these votes in general for anything it should be for the quality of the article. Now in the past i have seen people make comments to the effect of saying they just picked whoever cause they think he is awesome and that he's gonna do this or that in a fight, which is baseless and speculative. What happened to this character would be good for article of the month because they're article is well done or I pick whomever because of the large they are currently playing the series or will be playing. Also maybe I pick so and so because they dont get alot of recognition. I oppose this pick because he was recently already picked to be featured article or his article needs work or he is not at the forefront of storyline at this time. Im just saying that should be the policy if your making a comment make it substantial if your voting say you either support or oppose and sign your name, I should be able to click the name and it should take me to the users page. Salubri 20:59, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I've clarified the number of votes allowed in the voting policy and on the page of the 3 votes, as well as mentioning it on the respective Talk Pages. --Yyp 23:31, November 23, 2009 (UTC)