Talk:Ichigo Kurosaki

Former Hollow Powers
How are they former? He literally used them in the final battle, and beside that, the new novel (i know we cant reference it yet) explicitly states he has it still. After the last battle it never stated anything about losing that power. --J spencer93 (talk) 01:17, July 28, 2017 (UTC)
 * When Yhwach used his power drain attack on Ichigo, the latter said he could feel his Quincy and Hollow powers being drained away. Since he did not use them subsequently, it was assumed that this indicated that Yhwach had stripped him of them. The most-recent light novel has confirmed he still has his Hollow powers, but - so far as I know - doesn't mention his Quincy powers. As with the Naruto light novels, the canonicity of the Bleach light novels is heavily debated among the fandom, but the general consensus on this fandom has been to dismiss the light novels as non-canon because they are not solely written by Tite Kubo himself. Arawn 999 (talk) 03:21, July 28, 2017 (UTC)


 * (Since this discussion isn't closed), I have to say I agree with the OP. There is nothing to suggest Ichigo's Hollow and Quincy powers are permanently gone after Yhwach's defeat. On the contrary, the manga itself clearly states that Ichigo's Hollow, Quincy, and Shinigami powers are linked and one and the same. Yes, Yhwach was said to drained Ichigo's Quincy and Hollow powers, but since he could still use his Zanpakuto (a fusion of them all) later on, even in Bankai, suggests that they weren't fully drained and Ichigo still had them. Besides, we saw that Liltotto and Bazz-B still had their Quincy powers and Schrift even after the Aushwahlen, so it does seem that Yhwach's drain is not permanent if it's not fatal.Timjer (talk) 20:18, December 30, 2019 (UTC)


 * Well, since nobody actually disagreed with this yet, I suppose I'll change Ichigo's powerset, as my reasoning does make perfect sense to me. Timjer (talk) 13:16, January 5, 2020 (UTC)


 * I agree with this change. The reasoning also makes sense to me. SilverRain (talk) 14:52, January 24, 2020 (UTC)

Ancestor
Should Yhwach not be added to his infobox as an ancestor? The man outright stated he is the progenitor of the Quincies, and his blood flows in all Quincies. Ichigo later says this himself. These aren't ambiguous statements. The same applies to Uryū, but I decided to bring it up on Ichigo.—Mina Țepeș 10:39, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

Possible unlocking
Hey, is it okay if Ichigo's page is unlocked again? SilverRain pointed out there's a small inconsistency that I'd like to fix. Namely that his Bankai section still states that he lost his Hollow and Quincy powers, despite the consensus on the talk page that he did not. Likewise, it looks weird as those two are no longer under the "former powers" section. Timjer (talk) 08:50, March 20, 2020 (UTC)


 * Done, go for it.--Xilinoc (talk) 12:28, March 20, 2020 (UTC)


 * Alright, done. I reworded it a bit to be more accurate to what was shown on-page, removing any (minor) speculation.Timjer (talk) 13:07, March 20, 2020 (UTC)


 * I disagree that it's speculation that Yhwach absorbed Ichigo's powers, since Ichigo states he can feel his Quincy and Hollow powers being drained from him: Yhwach: "The power I gave you... I'm taking it back." Ichigo: "Oh... it's going away... the Quincy power inside me. The Hollow power that was mixed with it... disappearing... it's disappearing... into white." Ascha&#39;Vovina (talk) 20:26, March 20, 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm not saying it's speculation that Yhwach absorbed Ichigo's powers at all, that's clearly stated. I'm saying that it's speculation that that's the reason his Bankai changed to resemble his old Shikai. Timjer (talk) 20:51, March 20, 2020 (UTC)

Ichigo's Zanpakuto
Do We Know For Sure If Ichigo's Zanpakuto In The New Arc Is His Bankai? It Doesn't Quite Make Sense For Him To Default Into Bankai At The Start Of A Battle, Especially Without Even Saying Bankai. I Think It Might Be His Shikai. Bob1200 (talk) 06:18, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * While it would be weird, yes, it's technically the non-speculative answer at the moment. The last time we saw Ichigo, not only was his Shikai still the true two-blade form, but his Bankai had just broken its outer portion to become identical to his old Shikai, and that blade is what Ichigo uses in this new one-shot. There's nothing indicating or stating that his Shikai somehow reverted to the fake Quincy version, and if we said that it had on the wiki we'd be lying/speculating - so for now, we're calling it Tensa Zangetsu pending more information.--Xilinoc (talk) 06:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Bleach: Brave Souls calls it "True Zangetsu" and Jump Force calls it "Shin Tensa Zangetsu", so we at least have pseudo-official names for it, if anything. Ascha&#39;Vovina (talk) 07:03, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Alright So Its More Of A Wait And See Kinda Thing, lol. Should There Be An Addendum To The Bankai Section With The Picture Of Him In His Current Form? Bob1200 (talk) 07:39, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The best thing is that the wiki states things as they are, and right now, that's how they appear. People seem to fear being wrong like when Izuru was hurt bad everyone wanted us to list him as dead, to say he died but the Manga didn't confirm he was dead just that he was grieviously injured. For now, the Manga stated that the Shikai we knew was not the real Shikai, Ichigo's real Bankai reverted to look lik his first Shikai while attacking Yhwach. Now, maybe Ichigo's battle with Yhwach changed things up again but we dont know yet and it's ok to be like "ok that was wrong". We don't get it right everytime and it's ok, it's about being as accurate as possible with the information we currently have. We once said Gin killed Rangiku but that's because it looked like and he stated he killed her, at that moment, saying he killed her was true because it was the information we had at the time. When she was revealed to have been alive then its ok Gin stated he killed her and lied. The speculation comes when you specualte he lied before he stated he lied. Crossing bridges when we come to them sorta of thing. Don't worry, just bide your time.