Forum:Video Game Characters

I'm not sure how many people pay attention to the video game characters' articles, but they are in need of maintenance I've noticed. I'll go through it section by section:

Arturo Plateado
He requires his History and Synopsis sections to be updated with his roles in Bleach: The 3rd Phantom. He already has a Bleach: Shattered Blade subsection in both sections of his article. But since 3rd Phantom has its own timeline, its History and Synopsis should not mix in with Shattered Blades'.

Secondly, Arturo does require a new profile image. The current one is fine, but an official artwork shot is preferable. However, it is extremely hard to find, so updating this may take the longest out of all of the problems on Arturo's page.

Lastly, if possible, we should get some screenshots of Arturo's techniques. Some of them should be displayed.

Seigen Suzunami
Not much to do here really. His Synopsis section could use a some tweeking, but we should probably add his Monster Form under his Powers & Abilities section, since he does turn into a monster at some point in 3rd Phantom. Also, he's missing a History section, but that can be dealt with easily as well.

I wouldn't worry about his Bankai though. I haven't finished the game yet, but I'm pretty sure it's never been revealed.

Konoka Suzunami
Konoka requires some attention, but probably not as much as some of the others. She's missing a Synopsis section (which is supposed to take place in present-day Bleach, not before the Kudos and Suzunamis are suspended in time). She plays some part in the game during the present-day era, and it needs to be added.

The other part that needs attention in the article is the Shisui Mirror. It's missing a translation template, which includes what it translates to and the kanji spelling for it. We are also lacking in some of the Mirror's abilities as well.

Fujimaru Kudo & Matsuri Kudo
Their Synopsis sections could be better, but that's the least of our problems here. My primary concern here is that we don't have that content under their Powers & Abilities section, most particularly their Zanpakuto. At some point in the game, the player character learns a new technique, and by now, we should be able to list what the technique is. I am unclear as to whether the technique is the same or not depending on the Weapon-type chosen (Power, Speed, and Tech). The one for their "canon" Shikai would go under their Zanpakuto, but if it's different depending on Shikai-type, then it would go under the Notes section, where their optional Shikais are listed.

Regarding that, we should probably supply a screenshot of the optional Shikai weapons, so they can be shown properly. Oh, and their should be screenshots of the weapons' special abilities as well.

Shiyo
She's missing a Powers & Abilities section. I know she's not a Shinigami, and that much of her time in the game is limited, but she has displayed both a healing ability and an ability to somehow sense Seigen.

Again, I am yet to beat this game, so I don't know if any other abilities was shown with her. If there are any others, then don't hesitate to post them please.

Bansui﻿ Amatsuki
This guy just needs a page... in general. But that's only if someone registered here can tell us enough about him that's more than just one or two sentences. I'm sure information on him is rather limited, so it'll mostly only be known to those who have played Bleach: Hanatareshi Yabou.

Discussion
Well, I think that's it with the game-only characters. Hopefully we can get these problems worked out soon. If I missed any, please feel free to add them. If anyone's got any feedback or info, don't hesitate to respond to this. Arrancar109 01:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I agree - the video game characters' articles don't seem quite as up-to-par as they could be. I'd help, but I know absolutely nothing about any of the video games, so I'm afraid I wouldn't be of much use. But I support the idea! Twocents 01:24, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Shiyo is actually a reincarnation of Konoka, mixed with the girl named Shiyo, it happens when the soul went from Soul Society to the "other place" and then back to the real world, this happened during the use of the Shunsui Mirror. Seigen Suzunami didn't "transform into a monster" he was made into a hollow by Aizen, with the use of the Hogyoku (however u spell it). 3rd phantom is actually a good game =). Bk1217 02:21, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

That much I knew, but like you said, Shiyo was mixed with Konoka, which is why their pages aren't merged. And I know he didn't simply transform into a monster; Aizen did it, but I don't recall seeing that he used the Hogyoku to do it. It is highly possible, yes, but I saw no mention of the Hogyoku in the dialogue. I'll have to look at it again to confirm this. Besides, don't forget that in the original manga he transformed the other Vizards without the aid of the Hogyoku as well, so if it wasn't mentioned in the game's dialogue that it was done by it, then we can't say Aizen used the Hogyoku to do it. And he still does require a subsection for this form, similarly to how Kusaka has a "Dragon Form" subsection in his Power & Abilities section, and Ying and Yang have a "Hollow Forms" subsection in theirs. Arrancar109 02:37, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Actually some of the espada were created by the Hogyoku and some were powerful enough that they evolved on their own, Starrk is an example of one evolving on his own. and in the game they mention that Aizen is going to create a new hollow in Suzunami, and the only way of doing such is with the Hogyoku, i don't remember if they mentioned it or it was assumed, but either way that's how he did it =). Making himself an army in Hueco Mundo is one of the reasons he took the Hogyoku in the first place. Bk1217 08:55, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

This much I knew, but again, Aizen has done experiments regarding Hollowfication before obtaining the Hogyoku. While it is possible he used it, we probably shouldn't assumed that he used it on Seigen unless it is proven or sourced. Also, there's a theory that if he did use the Hogyoku, the transformation maybe could have been more stable and Seigen may have been more sentient than he actually was if it were used. Hence the reason why Aizen wanted to test him first. This is just a theory of course. Maybe Aizen just didn't care enough to make a stabilized transformation. But again, while it seems you can't prove that he used the Hogyoku to transform Seigen, at the same time I can't prove that he didn't. Still, we shouldn't assume that he did. At any rate though, once I'm finished with the game, I can improve some of these articles, but mostly by text-only Arrancar109 14:14, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Not much of an update, but I added that Matsuri and Fujimaru could use Flash Steps and are Expert Swordsmanship Specialists. I considered them being Master Swordsmanship Specialists for a time, but 2 things came to mind: 1.) Only one of the twins can achieve Bankai during the game. 2.) The twin you play as can only achieve Bankai during the game if certain conditions are met; otherwise, you'd have to beat the game with a new Shikai ability only. I think "Expert" is the most suitable, since playing as either twin is optional. Arrancar109 22:58, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Also, I need to know what Ryūkyū Zesshō translates into. Arrancar109 22:58, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Shunko should be added to Matsuri and Fujimaru's pages as well. By the end of Yoruichi's training, the character you're playing as (in my case Fujimaru) learns Shunko. By the end of the game, the other twin has the ability as well. I think Fujimaru can be considered a Master Swordsman as Kenpachi took interest in him and even wanted to fight him. As for Seigen, he has two hollow forms. While we may not know HOW Aizen turned him into a Hollow, we DO know how he went to his second form. He absorbed/devoured four other Menos and transformed into a dragon (?)... a thing, and created his own mini-dimension.Grimmjow2 23:19, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Fujimaru might, but not Matsuri. At least not yet. I'm on the chapter when Matsuri achieves Bankai. Either way though, add what you can. Also, again, said his was said the swordsmanship skill is debatable between Expert and Master because you can only play as 1 twin, and that twin is the only one able to either supe-up his/her shikai, or learn and master their bankai. I mean, I know you get the other twin back at some point, but before I lost Fujimaru, I saw that he didn't have the same limit on his weapon upgrade list as Matsuri, so this tells me only 1 twin will achieve bankai when you start the game. Arrancar109 23:22, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I edited Fujimaru's section as best as I could. Could you please look it over and make any necessary changes? Thanks in advance Arrancar109 ^^ Grimmjow2 21:08, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Looked good, from what I saw, but I had to make some adjustments. They weren't hard. Also, I'm not positive, but I think Kokyū Zesshō is 2 words. The English version has shown that they consider names like Getsuga Tensho and Sode no Shirayuki as 1 word, so I suspect that Kokyū Zesshō and Ryūkyū Zesshō are 2 words as well. Arrancar109 23:55, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I've noticed that too. It seems logical that they're two words Grimmjow2 05:45, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Iuploaded a shot of Arturo from the 3rd Phantom, tell me if it can be used on his page. Grimmjow2 01:48, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I added the text part for seigen's first hollow form but it still needs pitcure.i was to lazy to replay the game so i found this guy on youtube, http://www.youtube.com/user/NejiHyuga72

most of the stuff is put at a fast speed but he has a playthrough of the whole game,so you can use this instead of your memory.

FYI: seigen was fused with a menos grande.Bluegetsuga 19:23, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

I know. I beat the game a long time ago. Arrancar109 (Talk)  19:26, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Bluegetsuga, thank you for your contributions. I went head and corrected the grammar on you additions to Seigen Suzunami's page, as well as add an image of his first Hollow form onto his article. I'm going to work on the second Hollow form, but finding a good quality image for both may be hard, as most available screenshots/screenshot opportunities for DS games are low quality in general and are hard to find. Still, it's better than not having any sort of visual to it. Arrancar109 (Talk)  20:02, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I've added Seigen's History section and expanded his Plot section. I may have missed a few parts here and there, but I got the gist of it down. If anyone knows what's missing, feel free to add it. Arrancar109 (Talk)  23:37, March 21, 2010 (UTC)