Bleach Wiki talk:Policy

Policy Review: Relics & Updates?
Over the past year or so Ive given some thought to the policies here and that we really should streamline them a bit as there were an awful lot due to all the issues we had in the past. 20 or so policy pages at its height, no way anyone reads all of them, better to have smaller number. I've trimmed that number as some no longer reflect current practice or needs here. I've merged the redirect policy into the Manual of Style since the person it was created to counter is long gone and nobody has behaved that way since. I think the spoiler policy was updated too in anticipation of the anime's return.

With some changes in positions and new editors/mods here, a general change in behaviour on the wiki since the bad old days, I think maybe its a good idea to give everyone space to review what we actually need going forward, what works for us and what doesnt, suggest any tweaks to policy etc that could or should be looked at. Or if you want to query why we even have a policy for something. Somethings arent needed anymore or needn't be as harshly treated these days due to less serious and frequent problems being caused now that much of the series is old news rather than updated weekly. Feel free to raise any policy/procedure related issue big or small. I've posted three to get started and I have another on block lengths but I'll hold off on that until next week to let these get a chance plus any other ones people want to post. 08:49, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Bye-bye Naughty List
Bleach Wiki:Policy Violations should be deleted and never spoken of again. I forgot this thing even existed or I would have done it sooner. Maintaining a list of policy violators is not only impractical, its not needed and doesnt make sense to do it. Warnings on their talk pages are enough. I hate that we ever did this and can no longer fathom why we thought it was a good idea at the time. Better to look forward than backward, but wow, how far we've come since those days. 08:49, 7 January 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) As I said above.  08:49, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) Wow, yeah, ew, I never knew about that but that's super not cool. I think I can guess who pushed for it. Begone.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:37, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) I don't recognise that list so I don't think it was who you think it is but yeah, we have a block log.
 * 4) I didn't know that was a thing... But yeah, it should probably go. Timjer (talk) 10:40, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

A Vote on the Voting Policy
We no longer really need the voting policy, certainly not as a dedicated policy in its own right. It was meant mainly for the Featured Article etc, but they're now randomised since hardly anyone ever voted for them after the end of the anime's original run. Whats still relevant could become a single bullet point under Discussions Policy. 08:49, 7 January 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) As I said above.  08:49, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) Never did like this, it really restricted voting toward the end of the manga - I remember feeling lucky to get even 5 people casting votes each month because only a few people met the requirements. This can go too.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:37, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) - Yeah we don't really vote on featureed stuff any more. IF we ever get into that typ of thign with the new series then we can revisit if there's ever the spam that happened at the time.

I've merged the vote and chat policies into Bleach Wiki:Discussion Policy. I kept in the bit about active users (5 edits in last month), as I didnt want to change it without getting input, but I realise the likes of Lemurs, Schiffy etc would be routinely excluded under this rule. The rule is not so much about encouraging edits as deterring random users who only vote and then disappear never to be seen again. Should it be removed? Alternatively add a bit qualifying that those who have been admin/cmte/long time members are excluded from this requirement or something else? 19:33, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Personally I'd be fine with it being removed altogether, yeah. If we want it to be a truly community-based choice, I'd rather not have only the mod and admin team voting on stuff every time, it sends the wrong message.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * My thoughts too. As far as I remember it was specifically for votes on featured articles rather than anything else. Might have had relevance at one point when it was erm (overly-)passionately contested but I dont see any benefit to it today, just drawbacks. Even at the time the bar was set so low it doesnt show any lasting commitment to the wiki, so I dont think it ever really worked, unless we had a problem with people using multiple accounts in votes which I dont remember. If I dont hear any reasons to keep it by then, Ill take it out tomorrow. 19:50, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Merge Chat Policy Into Discussions Policy
Chat Policy should be folded in to the Discussions Policy, maybe combined with the “Discussions” Rules section since they kind of overlap. Figure there should still be some rules written down since we have the Discord server. If there is anything that should be added/changed specifically related to how the Discord is being used please post it here too. One thing Ive noticed on Discussions is someone posted links to their own Bleach channel. Should we allow that or limit it to just the wiki's official one? 08:49, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

This is the one I was referring to: link 17:58, 8 January 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) In favour of merging them. Will update vote if new rules for Discord suggested.  08:49, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) May as well, at this point. As for the question, I'd say Bleach-centric YouTube channels are fine, but in the Discord itself we don't allow links to other servers with a couple exceptions cleared in advance.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:37, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) Yes Chat has become redundant. It was never great to begin with.