Forum:Hoho

Ichigo
So, after much searching i have come across a question about information presented. I would like to ask others opinion upon the subject of Hoho. It was my understanding the Ichigo is a master of it (reguardless of weither he knows or not) but within the content of the article it is stated that he is just an expert. Where does he lack, or what doesn't he posses, that makes him an expert? Should it be changed? Anybody have any solution for me?

thanks. Winddemon 21:05, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Well thats addressed just by reading the article definitions on the various levels of mastery. Aside from that though why would anyone assume that Ichigo in any way was a master. If you read his article it specifies what the reasoning for his lack of mastery level. Having gained some skill with it during his time training under Yoruichi he doesn't possess any real mastery. In most cases he uses it to get from point a to point b. Any speed that he achieves in combat against captains of mastery level in the series is due to his hyper speed combat via his bankai. It does not count toward his actual skill. Even in bankai he is not using shunpo or its techniques which beyond basic movement he doesn't know. His skill in shunpo has only shown him capable of hanging with lieutenant. Hopefully that helps.--Salubri (Talk)  21:15, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Speed
We all know that Yoruichi is the fastest shinigami, and perhaps character in the whole series. But what about the second? Excluding Yamamoto and probably Aizen, who do you think it is? This is my bet but i won't rank them.

Shunsui

Byakuya

Soi Fon

the espada byakuya defeated (forgot the name)

One of these four would do. I'm not sure about the last one though. But I'm guessing he is also awesomely fast to be in the list. Toshi04 (talk) 09:11, August 12, 2010 (UTC)