Bleach Wiki:Translation Corner

The Translation Corner is a group of Bleach Wiki users who are tasked with translating the various names, abilities, techniques and etc. found in the Bleach Universe. Being that Bleach is a Japanese manga that use Japanese, Chinese, Indian, German, Spanish and English language in various instances and cases, the use of translators is a focal point to the continuation of accuracy on the wiki. All users should read our Translation Guidelines before you start translating.

Roles of the Translation Corner
The following are the duties of the corner:


 * 1. To assure the correctness of all translations that are presented on the site.


 * 2. To determine the outcome of Contentious Translations: If a translation is questioned at all, that should be brought up in this section. In this way a translator, committee member or admin can explain why the translation is used or conversation can take place for translations that are harder to classify.


 * 3. To determine the correct translation of Zanpakutō (names, release calls, etc.): This section is for requests for translation of zanpakuto and zanpakuto related translations.


 * 4. To determine the correct translation of Character and element (e.g. devices) names: This section is for requests for translation of characters/techniques/equipment and general key words.


 * 5. To determine the correct translation of General/Other translation issues (e.g. conjugation/miscellanea): This section is for requests about translations that don't fit any particular criteria such as conjugation or such things such as accents used in the names.

Associate Members

 * Adam Restling (Primary Japanese Translator)
 * MarqFJA (Secondary Japanese Translator)
 * Vraieesprit (Japanese to English Translation)
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References & Sources

 * Kanji-to-English:
 * Tangorin
 * Mahou Kanji Dictionary
 * Kanji Networks
 * OldNihongo.J-Talk.Com
 * Denshi Jisho
 * Basic Japanese verbal data: The imperative inflection of Japanese verbs

Associate Box
Ok folks I have finally gotten around to makeing the Associate Box. You can put it on your user page using the command. Below is what the box looks like. Tinni  (Talk)  14:37, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Translation Guidelines

 * Anyone doing any form of translation. Looking up on Google Translate or similar translation tools, is not translating. You are not doing the site any favors by doing amateur translation. Please refrain from using such tools.


 * This is not a conversation page. It is a simple question and answer page for translation. All conversations should be held on a particular user talk page or the talk page of this page.


 * Users should simply place their request and wait for it to be answered. To keep it simple, if the user posting the request has no real understanding of translation, the point is not for you to learn how to translate here. Usage of the page should extend no more then to asking for a translation to be done. Please refrain from badgering the translators for understanding on why a translation is translated a certain way. If you knew anything about translation you wouldn't be asking someone else to do it, therefore it makes no sense to argue with them.


 * If you are not a member of the translation corner, please do not answer translation questions. Leave it to our translators so as to avoid confusion.


 * Admin have the final say on the translation being placed into a article.

Rukia's Bankai
Okay, guys - time to test Rukia's Bankai name. It's Hakka no Togame, and I assume it's written 白化の咎め, meaning White Guilt.

I think also it would be like that but 白化 (Hakka) actually translates to a bleaching, whitening or even chlorosis. The second part - 咎め (Togame) it can mean guilt as You said, but it can also translate as rebuke, so wait till Adam will got the raw's and confirm a valid version Mad6 (talk) 15:38, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Mangastream created White Mist Sentencefrom Hakka no Togame.--Black Butler94 (talk) 20:53, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

I assume that 'White Mist' would be 白霞 (Hakka), and for 'Sentence' I don't know how to link Togame with sentence, so I will leave to Adam confimation of valid translation. Mad6 (talk) 10:39, February 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Raw is now officially out. The official Kanji of Hakka no Togame seems to be "白霞罸", with no Hiragana in the actual name, just along the side because of WSJ being useful like that with their chapters. Regardless, I leave this here for an official translation.


 * Intresting that like Rukia's Shikai, her Bankai has too a 'no' possessive particle. First two Kanji: '白霞' (Hakka) translates as White Haze/Mist or Blurred White, but curiously, i found that 'Hakka' is also a Given Japanese Name according to Lord Tangorin. The last one: '罸' (Batsu, Bachi, Hatsu) Translates as Sentence, Punishment or like a (Death) Penalty. Linking all together combines into : 白霞罸 (Hakka no Togame) White Haze/Mist or Blurred White Sentence/Punishment/Penalty. Mad6 (talk) 14:30, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Is there a way of reading "罸" as "Togame" apart from Rukia's Bankai? I mean, "Togame" is not on the readings for that kanji. I would really like to know why Kubo gave it that reading. --Masterjxf (talk) 00:29, February 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks to everyone for being on top of the raws and posting the pics for quick reference. From the one of said pics posted above, it does seem that Hakka no Togame has, as its Kanji, 白霞罸; and, given both the specific character(s) used and the ch. title of its introduction, I'd translate it as "censure of the white haze".


 * I have my doubts that 罸 is elsewhere used, beyond here, with the intention it be read togame "rebuke, reproach, censure"; by doing so here, giving it the reading normally "reserved" for 咎(め), I think Kubo's just doing that ol' nuancing/blending he's so fond of--i.e. nuancing the idea of "censure" (its reading) with the idea of it being a punishing reproof (its Kanji). He's done so many times in the past--e.g. didn't he do so, say, with Kamishini no Yari, where the part read shini "dying" was actually written with the Kanji for "kill" (usu. satsu, setsu, korosu) or something?


 * Perhaps the fact of this blending/nuance can be noted in some kind of quick trivia blurb or something? Adam Restling (talk) 13:35, March 3, 2014 (UTC)

Guenael
A chapter 570 raw came out (here:[]). The kanji for the epiteth are 消尽点 (バニシング・ポイント), but it doesn't have the "The" part like the others, don't know if it deserves a correction or if is a mistake (just wanted to point it out). Also katakana for the name are グエナエル (Guenaeru); may I suggest change "Guenael" for "Gwenael"?, it sounds more fitting to the other quincy names.--EvilDragonLord (talk) 17:53, February 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * The romaji of "消尽点" is (Shōjinten), and it literally means vanishing point. Romanization of "バニシング・ポイント" is (Banishingu Pointo), since there is no サ (za) kata in raws, this is not a error. Mayby Kubo will change or fix this in Tankobon release, but now it's not the case. I think that Guenael would be best since that if it would be "Gwenael" katakana would be different. As Guenael kata is グエナエル (Guenaeru), Gwenael would be グヴェナエル (Guvenaeru) or グウェナエル (Guwenaeru). It's because the エ (e) kata in Guenael is normally written, unlike in case of ヴェ (ve) or ウェ (we) which ェ (e) is different to capital written エ (e). The latter e are wrtten as lowercase letter, forming with ヴ (v) or ウ (w) a single syllable made of 2 kata symbols, when this capital エ (e) consist of one kata symbols and forms a syllabe alone. Mad6 (talk) 12:55, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Episode 230-265 sans 256
Having seen the considerable difference between the current title of Episode 256 ("Byakuya's anger, collapse of the Kuchiki family") and Adam's rendering of its kanji/kana ("The Enraged Byakuya! Collapse of the House of Kuchiki"), I've decided to do the same to the other episodes of the Zanpakutō and Tōjū arcs, so Adam, if you could take a crack at each of the following, I'd appreciate it very much.


 * Episode 230:


 * Episode 231:


 * Episode 232:


 * Episode 233:


 * Episode 234:


 * Episode 235:


 * Episode 236:


 * Episode 237:


 * Episode 238:


 * Episode 239:


 * Episode 240:


 * Episode 241:


 * Episode 242:


 * Episode 243:


 * Episode 244:


 * Episode 245:


 * Episode 246:


 * Episode 247:


 * Episode 248:


 * Episode 249:


 * Episode 250:


 * Episode 251:


 * Episode 252:


 * Episode 253:


 * Episode 254:


 * Episode 255:


 * Episode 257: (note: I have a feeling the rōmanji here is off as well)


 * Episode 258:


 * Episode 259:


 * Episode 260:


 * Episode 261:


 * Episode 262:


 * Episode 263:


 * Episode 264:


 * Episode 265: (note: the kanji on this episode's page is actually from the previous episode, so if you could add what the kanji should actually be to your response, Adam, I'd greatly appreciate it)

Thanks a great deal in advance.--Xilinoc (talk) 19:12, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

The Fear
Okay, so the raws for 566 and 567 are out now, and I've noticed something odd. As Nodt's epithet does certainly seem to be "The Fear", but unlike every Sternritter epithet before it, there seems to be a distinct lack of Katakana. As seen here in 566 and here in 567, the Kanji being used seems to be "恐怖", but on the side, instead of the expected Katakana reading something along the lines of "ザ・フィア", there is only Hiragana reading "きょうふ"/Kyōfu. I've flipped through the raw of both chapters, but I'm not seeing anything resembling a Katakana equivalent. It seems odd to me that Kubo would "forget" something like that for two chapters in a row. But anyway, would it even make sense to jump the gun like was already done here and add the Katakana, or should I go ahead and remove that?

Äs Nödt's Vollständig Name
I've seen a number of different rendering across the various translators, but we don't have anything concrete. (Many of them render it as two words, when it should be one?) Also, do the underlying kanji match what we have for the other Vollständig? Mohrpheus  (Talk)  18:38, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/ShadeofDemon/Tatarforas_zps567206ec.png

神の怯え (Kami no Obie), タタルフォラス (Tataru Forasu). The first part - 怯え (Obie) translates as "for being startled, surprised or afraid;  panic;  trepidation". I dunno what references Kubo made, but for me it would be a reference to a Tartar in Greek Mythology, which is a underworld and some sort of their 'hell'. Foras word comes from Ars Goetia known as Lemegeton or Lesser Key of Salomon and is name of President Foras which rules over twenty-nine legions of demons. Mad6 (talk) 22:48, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * Just some additional inquiries regarding this: 1) So would it translate as "Trepidation of God"? 2) Since there is no interpunct in the kana, would it just be "Tatarforas"? Mohrpheus   (Talk)  16:40, February 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * I would say 'Afraid of God' would be better because of As' fear and respect of 'Yhwach'. It could be together without space or separated, for me both versions are ok. But nonetheless I prefer to wait with changes to see Adam's statement about it, because He has more knowledge about grammar and lexical terms and translation. But for now I would leave this together, If something's going to change, it will just be changed anyway. Mad6 (talk) 12:16, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Karakura High School Students
I was checking this page here about the Karakura High School Students: http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Karakura_High_School_Students and noticed that most of these characters miss the kanji of their names. Also, checking the manga chapter (#35) I noticed that there are few more students whose name appeared and therefore should be added to the page. I'm adding the link for both pages so someone can go through this:

http://postimg.org/image/dpzjuscwr/

The first page has the kanji for the characters in the Karakura High School Students page. The second page has the kanji for the other students I mentioned that should be added to that same page. Thanks in advance.Kyoraku08 (talk) 13:54, March 2, 2014 (UTC)