Talk:Kirikaze

Ogre?
I'm not too happy with his characterization as an ogre. The design of an ogre as a big green skinned monster is unique to the Shreck movies and can in no way be considered the classic depiction of an ogre. Couldn't we settle on a more neutral description, one that doesn't allude to a specific popular movie franchise? Weedefinition  (Talk)  15:11, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

"...ogres are often depicted with a large head, abundant hair and beard, a voracious appetite, and a strong body. The term is often applied in a metaphorical sense to disgusting persons who exploit, brutalize or devour their victims." I'd say Ogre is a fitting description, although I'm not opposed to changing it. Maggosh 15:17, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Orge's are in no way unique to the shrek franchise, i wouldn't even say popularised by shrek. try the Lord of the rings books, or frankly any fantasy novel/game/comic/film and you will find orge references. that's like saying you can't describe a zanpaktou as a sword because they don't look like the singing sword in "who framed roger rabbit?".Nick D Wolfwood 15:29, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

I'm fully aware of the existance of ogres going back to Germanic folklore in the middle ages. Kirikaze resmbles the design of Shreck, which is a new design that has nothing to do with the classic design of the Ogres. He basically looks like Shreck with horns, another feature ogres don't have. You might as well say Nanao looks like Harry Potter. Weedefinition  (Talk)  15:41, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I suggest you take it up with Yyp, because he/she's the one who put that in. Maggosh 15:44, April 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was not originally put in by me. It was copied from the List of Tōjū article and then expanded. Oni seems a suitable alternative, but quite frankly I don't see the need to compare it to any mythical monster. The description & picture are sufficient, imo. -- Yyp (Talk) 15:54, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

I think the description of an ogre fits. First of all, he does look a bit like Shrek, Shrek was an ogre so it fits. Second, he resembles the ogres from Dragon Age Origins. You may not like the description because it makes you think of Shrek but it does fit--Godisme (Talk)  17:38, April 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't mind Shreck, but I disagree with describing the Shreck design as that of an ogre, and even more than that I object to using that characterization in this Wiki. We are not even allowed to make a comparison with other manga/anime in the articles of this wiki, now you would have us make an all too obvious allusion to a movie franchise that has nothing to do not only with Bleach but the entire anime world? Weedefinition   (Talk)  15:05, April 14, 2010 (UTC)