Forum:Zanpakuto techniques

Zanpakuto techniques
I want to add a technique section to the Zanpakuto page that discusses different types of techniques. For example, many Zanpakuto have an extendable attack in their Shikai or resureccion: Renji, Gin, Marechiyo, Toshiro (the kama on his hilt), Cirucci and Nirgge are the ones I can remember right now.

Another brand of technique is the fail safe or last resort techniques, like Renji's Higga Zekko, Rukia's third dance and Mayuri's self destruction of the weapon should it turn on him.

Ichigo, Hanataro and Momo all have a form of energy burst that fires at their opponent.

There are also techniques that do not coincide with their pronounced type. Tosen's Zanpakuto is not a projectile type, but it does have a projectile technique. Weedefinition 22:57, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Personally I think doing this would be a bad idea. Its too open for opinion. Yes Ichigo, Urahara, & Momo all have energy based Zanpakuto, but theres more to it then that. Many of there Zanpakuto can be used in more the one way & thus would fall under more the one category. Heres why & I'll explain with the two most known Zanpakuto, Zangetsu & Zabimaru. Zangetsu by itself can be used for close to mid range attacks(Mid Range if he throws it, which Ichigo seldom does). His energy based attack can fall under all 3 categories close, mid, & long range attacks. Zabimaru is a better Zanpakuto for explaining. Zabi can be used for all 3(close, Mid, Long)ranges for attacking. Plus when it breaks it has a special attack that can be used once & again this attack can be used from different distances. So trying to place a category for all the different Zanpakuto would be a nightmare & users from all over would come saying they disagree with this & would change that Etc, Etc. Minato88 20:46, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I would agree that it could be problematic in the sense that it is opinion based, which maybe a good enough reason not to do it. But still I think the idea is good, specifying different types of techniques in the Zanpakuto page. The point is not to rearrange Zanpakuto types by technique but to arrange the techniques according to similar types. I think everyone can agree that Renji's Higga Zekko and Rukia's third dance are basically the same: They're both last resort moves that can only be used once the weapon has broken. If we keep it technique specific and not allow the admittance of unnamed moves that relate to the Zanpakuto's basic powers (Rangiku's projectile move is not a technique for itself, for instance) we should be able to sort it out. Weedefinition 07:12, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

The description of the technique should make it obvious what type of attack it is, be it last ditch, energy based, projectile and so on. To spell it out like that seems like unnecessary words, expecially on character pages like Renji's or Ichigo's that are already very long and have a lot of detail in their zanpakuto sections. BollyW 07:17, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Once again, the change I'm talking about is one section in the Zanpakuto page, not the individual character pages, and there's no need to write too much either. What i'm suggesting will look something like this:

''Extending techniques:

Renji Abarai

Gin Ichimaru

Marechiyo Omaeda

...

Energy burst techniques:

Ichigo Kurosaki

Kisuke Urahara

Hanataro Yamada

...

Et cetera''Weedefinition 09:53, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Oh I see what you mean. I still don't see the point though, the zanpakuto page already has plenty of categories, and the one's you're proposing seem a little...slighlty more speculative or more general then the ones we have already. As in, direct type, ice type, kido type are all pretty clear and also specific enough that it's obvious whether a zanpakuto either is or isn't in that group. Once you start with extending techniques, for example Omaeda isn't really extending, his direct shape has a chain, which doesn't shorten unless you hold it shorter, so whether you include that or not includes potentially zangetsu and kazenshini as they both have chains or rope. And energy burst? That's just a type of attack, that doesn't define a zanpakuto anymore than anything else, except for say Hinamori who uses hers exclusively for kido and 'energy burst attacks'. I'm sorry to seem so negative but I just cannot see the need for extra categories like this. BollyW 10:08, October 28, 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with Bolly, it isn't needed & would require redoing the entire page & would be a tedious task. Minato88 10:11, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

I have been thinking about this for sometime now and I have come to the conclusion that classifying zanpakutos is an contentious and over-rated activity. I mean, who does it really benefit? Is there any particular need to classify them? Certainly some zanpakutos were classified in the manga itself and that fact should be noted in the zanpakuto section of the respective shinigami. But what really is the benefit of trying to classify any other zanpakuto when it is never mentioned what their proper type is in the manga or the databooks? I mean, for all we know Kubo works on the old pokemon system and Kira's zanpakuto is "dark type", as is Kyoraku's and Aizen's "psychic type" etc, etc. Let's just drop the zanpakuto classifications altogether from the zanpakuto page and just make a note in the zanpakuto sections of those zanpakutos that have explicitly had their type mentioned in the zanpakuto sub-section of the shinigami. Tinni 10:16, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Oh well. I tried. I guess if the response is that negative then I'm the only one who sees the need classifying techniques that way. Bummer! BTW I don't think it's necessary to only keep the Zanpakuto types named in the manga. I'm sure we can safely assume about at least some of them what their type is. Weedefinition 14:06, October 28, 2009 (UTC)